What are some blatant examples of games that were heavily virally marketed here on Ganker?
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Recently? Pizza Tower
Very recently, as in past few days? Pseudo-something-alia, some furry game
stop fricking bugs
Never
I've seen Bug Fables threads on Ganker maybe three or four times since the game came out. Take your meds.
Needy Girl Overdose
Battlebit Remastered
Dave the Diver
YIIK
The current POE shill campaign is getting insufferable.
>Dave the Diver
This one's the most blatant though. It was a bland, generic game that got virally marketed for a week and then everybody immediately forgot about it once the money stopped coming in.
YIIK wasn't marketed on Ganker until the creator traced things back here somehow (likely Oneyplays memes). Initially, YIIK was being toted around as a woke garbage Earthbound clone riding Undertail's coattails. While the entire internet largely ignored or made fun of it, Ganker was pretty much the only one to unironically understand the plot. The game is a reeking pile of shit, but there were some good ideas sprinkled in, which led to morbid curiosity and then eventual shilling.
>woke garbage Earthbound clone riding Undertail's coattails
For the last time, YIIK is a woke garbage Wild ARMS 2 clone riding Scott Pilgrim's coattails.
What made Battlebit obvious were the shills calling it a milsim. The game's nowhere close to being one of those.
I wish they'd just be honest about it. If i was a dev i'd be like
>Hey guys here's my game what do you think
and then hand out a bunch of keys
same that's why I didn't mind the greatest penguin heist guy
it helps he also added in little suggestions from here
But he did
He was very active in the game dev threads in the years before Bug Fables released
Nah don't want to be associated with the pedophile neonazi website
I kind of want to get into game devving myself/have been wanting to make a rimworld copy that isn't shit
pseudoregalia is the most recent one, quality of the game aside it's very obviously posted by the guy making it since it'd be pretty easy to sucker furries in here
I just wanted a good 3D platformer and it doesn't even feel like a real game.
Just mean in general. The Psuedo devs pretending to be other anons is really seedy .
Too scared to get bad press
>Just mean in general. The Psuedo devs pretending to be other anons is really seedy .
It was just blatant because they'd just post the character model with an "innocuous" and steam link in the OP while starting an argument. So the OP is just a mass advertisement that hangs there while anons argue and the devs false flag.
I fricking wish I got paid for making that thread.
Hate to tell you this but you've been real skeevy about those threads. Like, you're looking up their twitter followers and who they follow, looking at subreddits for them. Shit man, literally the same sort of behavior stalkers do after the get rejected for trying to get a girl to cyber ERP or send them nude pics.
I genuinely want you to go out and touch grass for your own well-being. If you dont like a thread or a game the best thing you can do is hide & ignore.
What the frick are you on about? I don't even know who made the game and i bought it.
I think furries pushed it because a bunch of horny twitters retweeted it.
That just reminded of vividlope, that one was really obvious as well and it got a lot of spam bnuuy tards
Creator even had merch ready for it's release too
Decent enough game though
I think you guys reach for this stuff, is all I mean. There's obvious shilling, but sometimes stuff just gets traction for a minute and then dies down.
Fair enough, heavy spam from fans looks a lot like genuine shilling
vividlope genuinely was shown off by the dev here though
>vividlope genuinely was shown off by the dev here though
I really don't think a gamedev posting in gamedev threads counts as viral marketing. You could b***h about his UI until he fixed it right in front of you
Ah, no. That was me and like a bunch of guys from /hmofa/. I just really like bottomless and the metroidvanias.
You'd be surprised how much furries shill each other's stuff.
I used to work on a game that had one anthro character out of like ten and anons started like two or three threads about it
Never seen him outside the dev threads (unless maybe he's sharing his demo builds in standalone threads). His marketing won't mean anything if he never releases the game, he's already delayed release by like four years at this point
The Final Fantasy franchise (FFXIV literally has 24/7 general on Ganker)
I've seen ubishit games, especially Assassin's Creed, have some suspicious phases pre-release where threads are constantly spammed about them, but then when it's out suddenly nobody talks about it anymore.
never forget the sticky
but in all fairness that happens with all big singleplayer games
sidenote, exoprimal seems pretty shilled too, though that may just be the fact it's already attained on of those "defensive fans make passive aggressive replies to any negative opinions about the game" things going on already
Astral Chain
If you really want to examples of blatant shilling you should have seen how shameless Gearbox was on this board on the runup to the first Borderlands game
Borderlands 1
Perfect Dark XBLA
Virtually every single Assassin's Creed game because we get very obvious advertising threads and this website is the only one that seems to get "leaks" of anything in development. In general there's a suspicious amount of "leaks" surrounding Ubisoft games on this website compared to anything else.
Bug Fables
Pizza Tower
Dave the Diver since it had pretty much hourly threads for a week or two then no one ever talked about it again.
Yeah, it was either spambots or Borderlands threads on the board, and for every six of each of those threads you had like one actual thread. Picture related being the most notable spambot people were taking the piss out of. Don't think I have the knockoff of the one with the lollipop chick with big boobs.
>Perfect Dark XBLA
explain
It was like this for several months.
from the looks of it seems more like a schizo
Nah, it would always have the same information, the same image posts, and the same leading questions pretty much every thread for months on end. It only stopped after the game actually released so either this schizo didn't care about marketing it after release despite doing it for months, or they just stopped.
Could be, but I distinctly recall a couple of nights close to release where most of the first few pages of Ganker were perfect dark xbla threads with few organic posts and different styles. Could have been well-prepared spamming by a crazy guy but that was around that time that there were a few game marketing departments that actively tried to spam shit on Ganker, so I can believe it was real.
I think Remnant 2 is being shilled but I only day that because of so many youtubers getting free codes to play it on streams and gearbox's history of spamming here.
This shovelware garbage sold at full price that died in two weeks. And you can already see it happening with the sequel. Considering the devs are crossdressing Discord groomers it's safe to assume that they themselves are making and bumping threads.
Yeah, it was even worse than Multiversus honestly. The shill campaign that is. I haven't played Nick enough to have an opinion on which was the better fighter.
Baldur's Gate 3 with forced memes. Right now. So fed up with it
Bokube. Literally shills in /vg/ and Ganker at least once every 6 months for the last decade.
https://twitter.com/BokuDev/status/1675989310204526594
everything published by d*volver
Yep Devolvers
Funny how they shilled Cult of the Lamb so much, hoped that it will be the next big thing like Hollow Knight and barely anyone remembered it
maybe they should try promoting a game that isn't a gay circlejerk
it's always funny seeing furry artists jumping on anything they think might get eyeballs on their stuff
CotL got a bunch of art really quick and then nothing super fast
>virally marketed
Anon they were developing it with input from Ganker
jesus christ how horrible
>Nobeta
dicky games follow their own rules.
I'm honestly convinced that all those types of games' fans are in cahoots and have manufactured the "rivalry" to the extent that newer people who see the threads think it's an actual rivalry, which has the added side effect of making more visibility for all of the games in question. You literally never see a Nobeta thread without all the other current similar games showing up to shitpost, and vice versa.
I remember when this exact thing happened on Ganker with the "tribes" shit for amphibia, and I can't remember the names of the others
I stopped going there for like a year after that
They're e-girl games made by e-girlcons and marketed to e-girlcons. Obviously they all play and 'enjoy' the main ones. They're not really meant to be played by most people like real games, they're just fetish games.
played 3 of these games (beaten 2) and can agree with all these "descriptions"
The paper mario one is weak. That's why people liked it and was a main selling point, not really an insult.
>couldnt come up with anything so just replaced a word with 'slop'
lol
>overrated is slop
you gays ruin everything
this was written by a mentally healthy individual.
>Admits to getting FILTERED by Fear & Hunger
>Admits to having not played a good chunk of the games
Wow, guess you're at least being honest that you're moronic.
>forced money grinding
Shitter.
>hasn't even played some of the games he's shitting on
I'm all for shitting on bad games but at least try to build a decent case my man
Games I enjoyed and I think anons should give it a shot:
>Fear and Hunger (it's bullshit at times but it's got a genuinely good sense of oppressive gameplay and making the best out of horrible situations, lots to discover if you're a loregay and secret hunter)
>Pizza Tower (Warioware and Sonic platforming mixed together, you might need to get past the artstyle at first but there is great gameplay and a fricking amazing soundtrack here)
>Hollow Knight (everyone shits on it, and it's definitely flawed like how some zones are too open and there's a bit too much of just running around to places, but I think it's a good metroidvania at least)
>Cross Code (you have to be into the basic pitch to gel with it but I found myself liking the gameplay and some characters are pretty alright)
>Crystal Project (weird for JRPGS; no story, all exploration and platforming which takes some getting used to but the job system is great and almost every class has a genuine use, lots of fights demand you change your strategy and try new things)
>Bug Fables (yes it's almost exactly like Paper Mario but that is pretty much the exact reason to play it and it's the best thing to a Paper Mario game I've played since TTYD; the cast starts boring but gets surprisingly endearing and they have a fun dynamic)
Games I do NOT recommend:
>Chained Echoes (it really isn't horrible as a video game but the story is meh and the ending is so fricking godawful I cannot in good conscience recommend it to people)
>Little Witch Nobeta (if you like e-girls go ahead but there just isn't enough content here to really justify the price for it and the gameplay is a bit too simple imo)
Games I'm mixed on:
>Omori and Undertale (awful fanbases but the games themselves are okay at least)
>The Coffin of Andy and Leyley (it's good but literally an hour long so just know that)
>filtered by fear and hunger
so this is what happens when a game returns to design philosophy back from the days, when games didn't hold your hands like a moronic toddler
except fear and hunger is relatively forgiving (unless you play hard mode which the dev at first believed wasn't really possible).
like am I supposed to believe you did not have stupid deaths in Wizardry when you didn't know what things do and had to test it out the hard way?
Bold of you to assume that zoomer has played Wizardry and isn't just namedropping it for internet cred.
>dude you have to do the tutorial in order to run lmao got'm
fear and hunger is garbage and it was clearly shilled by viral marketers trying to make it seem like something it isnt.
whats sea of shills about?
>slop
name a lower iq buzzword
here's one:
>buzzword
well i DO hope andy and leyley get sloppy so there is some truth here.
morons on Ganker will sincerely accuse random indie devs of hiring shills but then act like the fricking Starfield shit is organic.
omori, pizza tower, and undertale have generals on /vg/. They're popular enough to this day to not be just marketing.
The others are probably shilling too, that said hollow knight doesnt seem to be as it's way too popular to need marketers. People lose thier shits on tendie directs too
I agree with the others
>pizza tower
>/vg/
Didn't you hear the news?
>Complains about shilled flavor of the month
>Only arguments are to call them Slop and Cucked
Imagine knowing you wasted precious seconds on this earth with the lowest of low hanging insults.
What are some objectively good games to you? Unironically asking.
You will never get an answer to that question and you naive to believe you ever would.
Regardless of whatever the answer is, that schizo is going to be made fun of
>Trial & Error
was crosscode really? I remember some anon recommended me to get it in a steam sale thread
it was kinda fun but I quit when they kept shoving the literal homosexual couple in my face all the time
has anybody tried the very last game at bottom right? heard it's a 3D metroidvania so I'm mildly interested
the movement is fun and it cost only 7 burger. the only thing that might rub a metroidvainia enjoyer the wrong way is the lack of map.
It was made by a Gankerbro. He kept the board up to date through his development.
Pizza Tower
MyHouse.wad
"this game has actual graphics" guy for that MOBA I can't remember the name of.
No one does. The game flopped hard. I think the anon did it as a joke.
Frick off Tad
you can't fool me
crumble
>virally marketed
I'm 99% sure you're trying to say "games that were shilled" but the term "viral marketing" refers to the exact opposite: Organic, widespread positive word of mouth.
bug fables is/was a longtime agdg dev
quiet newbie
Astlibra was shilled extremely heavily when it released on steam but it was actually good so I'll let it slide.
Japanese RPG with fan service. That's just an easy sell to Ganker in general, I doubt any shill was professional. Dave the Diver might have been shilled, but that was fun too.
Please shill more 2D RPGs that aren't shitty soulslike.
to be fair i dont think that was professional shilling, the game was made by one dude with help from a vanillaware artist and that's it. I heard about the game from some indie thread, gave it a shot and fricking loved it. Definitely not everyone's cup of tea and not a perfect game but holy shit that game had so much S O U L
>fighting one of the final bosses
>of all things a fricking hatsune miku song starts playing
>somehow it's still kino
anthem
I honestly don't really remember any real shilling, just people mocking it and the odd defender
Onirism
Crystal Project but it's a weird one. The first posts about it were the dev shilling, but I think it took on a life of its own and "Andrew's Game" shitposting perpetuated itself without the dev needing to astroturf himself.
>Onirism
see
It was still shilled. Piggybacking is simply the strategy with highest efficacy.
The dev would also lose his shit whenever the steamstats got dumped demonstrating a disproportionate amount of threads/posts when compared to the max player count.
>demonstrating a disproportionate amount of threads/posts when compared to the max player count.
Again, these people were just jerking off to the game. Look at the steam stats of any H-game compared to people posting about it and you'll see the same "discrepancy." The issue is you're treating those games like games when they're porn.
Crystal Project was also overall a pretty good game. Spent 100 hours 100%ing it and having to actually change up my whole party's classes and strategies to fight endgame bosses was pretty cool. For the last one I got hard filtered so I spent like 3 hours at the training dummy figuring out a one-shot setup that involved stacking buffs on my attackers and a frickton of debuffs on the boss, then using an ability that did damage based on the amount of debuffs they had. Was a b***h to figure out and it felt great when I got it down. Andrew is okay in my book on account of not shilling his own game too hard (yes some do it too much but I think people here are a bit hard on devs shilling their own games, sometimes they're actually fricking great like Project Wingman and deserve a chance) and actually having his game be good.
>Fug Babies
shid :DDD
Every game ever discussed on Ganker
What are you, moronic?
Frufy is my favorite
B33313 or whatever that one Mario 64 mod is called
Bug Fables was a better Paper Mario game than anything Nintendo has shat out in the last two decades.
Nobody bought paper mario when it was an RPG, You can see the sales figures yourself. So nintendo moved on.
The only people buying bug fables are coomer weirdos who dress up as foxes on weekends and "yiff" their friends in the bum.
The only people buying video games are coomer weirdos who dress up as foxes on weekends and "yiff" their friends in the bum.
ftfy
Nobody bought Fire Emblem until 2012 and look where we are now.
Nobody bought Engage, the franchise is dead again.
>shill
I genuinely wonder if people know the actual definition of this word anymore.
>job is QA on Steam support interactions
>guy creates a ticket because he forgot all his credentials
>agent asks for proof of ownership
>guy spergs out, yelling about Gabe's chode and accuses the Steam support agent of being a shill
The word is used so freely and broadly these days.
Everyone is well aware of the definition of shill and uses it correctly here.
>Hifi Rush threads when the game was announced and then lainched at the exact same time at a major showcase event
>SHILL SHILL SHILL screeching
>despite nearly all threads becoming cat porn, comparing it to DMC5, or laughing at Forpoken
I disagree with you.
It's too soon and there are too many borders to AI shitposting, but that shit sounds like surreal stupidity. Yikes.
There's been a lot of that lately.
>people having to make shit up about there being trannies in the game because it was shadowdropped and shitposters had no time to build a case against the game
>got immediately proven wrong by people who actually finished the game on launch because it's only 10-12 hours long
It was a 7 or 8/10 game but it was honestly just really nice to play a single player, short but replayable, no bullshit MTX/DLC style of game. Didn't reach the heights of DMC for me personally but that game had soul and I'm glad it got made, I still jam out to Iwazaki Chainsaw after finishing it.
70-80% of what Ganker will call shilling is just people wanting to talk about a game (or more likely just be horny about it), not intended to be some astroturfed marketing campaign
It was viral marketed. There are just a lot of furry weirdos on Ganker.
See also: that shitty "Fuga" game.
>There are people in this thread who pronounce Vi as Vi
If it is not Vi then how do you pronounce it?
It's pronounced Vi.
6
You have been tricked, her name is French like Juane's is, so it goes with how they pronounce it.
Roughly Vee-Oh-Lay
It's pronounced Vi? I thought it was pronounced Vi, boy do i feel stupid
honestly wish the whole game had that style of art instead
Any game that is both popular and i personally dont like. If its not to my tatse its literally impossible for anyone to like and talk about. I wade through this ocean of bot and shill posts alone. I know none of you are real but ill never be able to leave.
Astlibra, but the game was good for what I played of it. Slow start up though.
>the game was good
how much are they paying you?
-$24.99+tax
All those dicky games like Demon Turf or Onirism. It's so blatant it's not even funny.
This one's been getting shilled hard recently. There's even a thread up right this moment.
It's free.
So? The dev makes money off Patreon from this game.
Why would paper bug devs bother hiring viral marketers when me and other bitter TTYDgays will do it for free?
im glad both bug fables and pizza tower were talked about here so i could enjoy two fantastic video games. keep shilling please.
For me it's [your favorite new game].
shantae
divinity gate 3
Still seething i see
Do people actually think Bug Fables is better than Paper Mario 64/TTYD?
I thought we all universally agreed it's the 3rd best paper mario game.
I'm enjoying the gameplay a lot more when on hard mode in BF than either Paper Mario game. That's not the only metric by which to rank a game, but depending on taste I could see liking BF more than PM.
star rail.
That thread had non stop threads when it came out.
Calling it greatest thing ever, now there's nothing.
There's also ubisoft games where the posters dont talk normally, the interracial couple game, the onirism dev keeps going nuts shilling his game even though nobody plays that shit.
The bug fables dev is a Gankerner. its one of the very few /agdg/ gays who actually did it and released a real game.
What about undertale and minecraft?
Patapon is especially annoying
Imagine shilling your indie rhythm strategy nobody cares about
Isn't the newest Patapon over a decade old at this point? What are you talking about?
i think he's talking about rataton, that game from the same dev that got kickatarted
I think he meant Ratatan, the spiritual successor to Patapon made by the same people. Yeah, it's one of those situations.
I just hate Patapon and everything related to it
The Coffin of Andy and Leyley
Crystal Project
Bocchi the Rock
why did you include an anime in your post
Why do they shill an anime on the video game board?
Why would anyone advertise here when nobody here even buys games?
The key goal of advertising is to have your product known. Doesn't matter if you don't buy it, the fact that you know of its existence at all is all they need.
Where is the line between 'anon who likes the game and wants to talk about it' and 'anon who was definitely 100% paid to advertise a game.' Just being positive? I've seen some genuine shill posts, but they're obviously written using a script, most of the shill accusations are just 'you are talking positively about a game i think is being talked about too much.'
>Nintendo pays Zelinker to shill Zelda
>Schizos ITT actually think Ganker has any impact on video games or anything for that matter
Borderlands blows this dishonest argument out of the water, if anything Ganker is even more influential now than it was back in the late 2000s-mid 2010s.
I'm just saying, every dollar you spend to advertise here would be better spent on a saccharine sweet forced positivity website like reddit. you have a bigger audience and one that's less likely to go "frick off shill" immediately upon seeing your shill posts.
>indiedev
>nobody mentions my games
>fantastic relief
thanks guys, appreciated
>game so bad no one even knows about it
>let alone discusses it on Ganker
Yeah, you should be real proud.
>thinking we'd be mad at you if you were honestly just asking our opinion rather than how we get blisteringly mad at buttholes that try to convince us it was our idea or that they're one of us
You'll get the occasional butthole who's going to be a tard because of an attention deficit but we'll respect you more if you respect us. That being said, avoid mass appeal and write to who she what you know. Don't try to please everyone. But don't be a dick even if they aren't your audience. It sounds uneven if they're being an entitled dick to you, but you responding in kind just validates them and paints you in a bad light to the unaffiliated.
thank you for the advice, I agree completely as both an anon and a dev.
somehow, yes a bit. Sometimes doing something is a reward in itself.
FTL clone? what are the aliens like? can you date them?
There's sentient races, like these, and then there's animals which you can find on planets, so there's a lot of aliens of some kind, I guess I would pidegon-hole the designs as cartoony. The interactions are still being constructed, but I'll be sure to include some quests involving romance. Thanks for asking, and yeah pretty much an FTL clone.
This reminds me of the art from an old Click N' Play disc I used to mess with with like 120-130 short games, free games, and shareware games on it. It has ancient soul. I hope you can do a steam release, maybe with a demo.
I do have a demo, which is just all the game so far
https://pricklypeargames.itch.io/wodopom
Thank you for your kind encouragement.
>gacha and baldurs gate 3 bullshit
Is fricking blatantly obvious and they still try to pretend that it's not. Especially the outrage baiting they're doing for BG3
Wasn't Bug Fables made by someone on here though?
I'd expect someone from here who was making a game would share their game.
Your Turn To Die
Gnosia
It's a toss up between Deep wiener Gaglactic and troony Tower for the worst this year. That Battleshit game and PooE are currently the most annoying. Dave the Assdiver gets a dishonorable mention for being super cringe on top of the insufferable bot campaign.
Oh yeah, and I almost forgot from all the bleach. The bearfricker game. In many ways, that one is likely the worst and most obvious because they had to push forward the release day to step out of the way of Starfield. Suddenly SPAM! Even though it's been festering in early access for ages.
I think that's why the troony Tower meme started. I know there was some kind of discord scandal blah blah. I do know two things that became apparent during that shitstorm of shilling. The guy that owns the company is a rich trust fund baby and he put up a tonne of cash for deviant art types to make art and memes for it.
>The guy that owns the company is a rich trust fund baby and he put up a tonne of cash for deviant art types to make art and memes for it.
Holy shit why aren't more ppl talking about this?
Frick off shill.
Anyone writing a google doc on how disingenuous troony Tower is? We need a callout post soon.
>The guy that owns the company is a rich trust fund baby and he put up a tonne of cash for deviant art types to make art and memes for it.
When the frick are we as a community gonna ban troony Tower discussion????? This shit is so stupid!!!
Bethesda games
Disco Elysium was absolutely shilled here
Monolith Soft games
Platinum Games games
Elden Ring
Baldurs Gate
Starfield
When I create my game, I will viral on Ganker. Prime focus: attract 'artists'. 80% of my marketting budget will be spent commissioning digital images. The true success of a game is 100% correlated to how many artists are enthralled.
Don't forget to request images relating to your game in the drawthreads that you already drew/got commissioned to build up interest/the illusion of interest
I think this was the first time it was quite so blatant, but it set the precedent for all marketing campaigns since.
Dead Island.
>discussion about a single player game around its release window == "heavily virally marketed"
I swear to Todd you guys are beyond brain damaged
Borderlands was done months in advance and never let up with people talking about the "Brazillian" amounts of guns, how cool it would be, how you could play with your friends, and so on to the point that the entire board collectively shit on the threads with OC making fun of it because it was the identical same image for the OP posting the same exact things every single thread multiple times an hour.
Perfect Dark was literally a copy pasted OP seemingly every hour on the hour.
Dead Island at one point had dozens of threads posting the trailer and how it made them feel emotional and other stuff for weeks.
Fallout New Vegas in June the same year it released had some guy posting the same thread with bullet points of its features for months until it came out which stopped the instant it came out.
Terraria at one point was spammed with the exact same thread opening, talking points, and more at release.
Modern Warfare 3 at one point had the actual official account posting its unlisted gameplay video and talking points until someone pointed out it was unlisted and it immediately got taken down on the official account.
This. That's why we hate every indie game nowadays. It's so obvious the devs are shilling.
One of those games were indie in those examples though.
And it's one with a known weirdo sperg (Blue) on the team who was probably doing that shit.
Thank frick someone else remembers the Dead Island spam. It was crazy how transparent it was.
This game was shilled non-stop for several months until one day it randomly stopped.
Now barely anyone remembers or cares about this game outside of the occasional porn thread.
I mean the dude created the game only did so because he wanted more porn of girls in suits. So in the end, I guess he completed his mission.
It was a one off game with good lewd bait designs that was free.
The owner literally made it to get people to draw more demon girls lewd that appeal to his color blindness.
>PM gays who wouldn't shut the frick up about this game before it even came out just to spite Origami King
>Play it
>WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS
>Finally good gameplay
>WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS
>homosexuals like Arlo actually like random essays from NPC's
I like the game, but holy shit you frickers are deranged if you think walls of text out of fricking nowhere is good
ttyd was like that, and it's a game made first and foremost for them
still waiting for someone to make a pm64 successor
The problem with Bug Fables that it is ruined by Paper Mario gays, the game has it's own unique charm and mechanics that deserves respect but because of these fricking morons, it'll only ever be known as just a Paper Mario coping clone.
>why do paper mario fans gravitate towards this game that is very similar to paper mario?
they should have made something original then. that takes talent though.
You miss my point
It's a love letter to Paper Mario, but it also adds it's own unique spin, mechanics that are really cool and it's own engaging and interesting world that you want to learn about.
But a good chunk of people won't see that and just pass it off as a Paper Mario clone
I'm just going to be fricking blatant about it, Bug Fables should've been a cool indie game that we find out was a cool callback to Paper Mario naturally
Not paraded by Paper Mario gays and yelled into our year about it, it fricking pisses me off and makes me not want to play it.
That was the intent from the beginning, unfortunately, the devs themselves literally advertised themselves as a response to Origami King
>advertised as a paper mario successor
>people compare it to paper mario
how could this have been avoided?
>""successor""
There's your problem
>A Paper Mario inspired Adventure
Is so much better and removes the ego
Stop doing X-likes.
Stop trying to make something that compares to X just so people will call it X-like, especially if it really is absolutely nothing like X.
The line between wearing one's influences on their sleeves and having no identity of their own is vague and thin.
It's not quite an "X-like" if it's a spiritual sequel. There's a difference between mimicry and inspiration here. If I knew I could personally contact several developers, ask if I can work on the sequel/spinoff to their "X" with them, and do it; I would start making time to grind remotely.
You guys are throwing out that name as if it means anything, a "Spiritual successor" only works if it has any sense of the original developers, otherwise, it's just a fan tribute/callback
Mario and Luigi for example, can be considered a spiritual successor to Super Mario RPG because Alphadream had some of the Squeenix people, like Yoko as composer
Or Yooka Laylee trying to be a spiritual successor to Banjo-kazooie because it was ex Rare devs
Bug Fables is not a fricking spiritual successor
Hm....poor use of words on my part there perhaps, yes. Spiritual Successors have a certain definition. That being said, gaming is considerable as a series of tributes to games, knowledge, events, ideas, and other individual art forms, however. It's very hard to isolate development from inspiration, yet it is vital to not soullessly copy in making a full game.
Mega man and mario, the whole appearence of the fighting and shooter genres, and the indisputable melancholy that puzzle games exist in wouldn't be possible if developers couldn't take inspiration from the mechanics and systems of other games.
If that game were truly unoriginal or derivative, it'd exist as a niche mod of one of the original inspired games; to stay as close to the original engine, code, and game-feel as possible.
X-like is really a sort of way to put a genre that has not yet been cemented in itself. It's tough to not do them at all though; development of games would have to exist in a vacucum, independent from how videogames actually exist.
A direct quote from the developers
>There was this weird moment where, despite being inspired by Paper Mario, we stopped treating the characters as made out of paper. Instead, we treated their appearance as just an art style.
Hard to avoid calling it a Paper Mario successor when it came right out the gate as one. They even had to stop themselves from seeing their bugs as made of paper.
>There was this weird moment where, despite being inspired by Paper Mario, we stopped treating the characters as made out of paper. Instead, we treated their appearance as just an art style.
Wasn't that literally the point of the PM64 and (mostly with just a few exceptions) TTYD? The paper artstyle wasn't to imply Mario was literally paper, it was to drive home the feeling of the story being like a pop-up picture book with a very classical fairy tale plot (by Mario standards). Kind of like Yoshi's Story did as well. Sure, TTYD had a few 4th wall breaks with the paper powers, but 99% of the time it wasn't shoehorning lame paper puns into the dialogue.
SPM was a little bit more annoying with it but still fine. But from sticker star onwards it's just obnoxious and not funny.
Why is there so much complaining about games that were blatantly developed on this very site? "oh wah wah this game is posted on Ganker constantly" yeah shut up Black person read /agdg/ once every now and again.
>Nobody mentions the actual VN game that was made from this website
There's really two kinds of people in this thread.
People who got annoyed at a specific game getting discussion and people with actual reason to consider shit having been paid marketting.
OP is the former so that put things off to a bad start
The constant shill genshit threads. Can we ban these already?
Shout out to that gay analysis Imran khan who wanted "Genshin to win against sonic" because he finds them annoying but then bans somebody who said he's tired of people shilling a gatcha shit.
Almost as if he likes Gatcha shit himself
Bug Fables is genuinely liked here for a few reasons...
I unironicly read the image as bug frickers
As an outsider, my understanding of Bug Fables is
>Paper Mario fans who hate the newest Paper Mario like this game
and it doesn't really tell me if this game is actually good
It's because it really isn't that good.
You should only really play it if you've beaten Paper Mario 64 and TTYD, and want to play some more.
Just expect to get through mountains of dialogue for a 2nd rate Paper Mario game.
It's fine. Early on it's annoying because you just don't have the Medals, medal capacity, or money to fight more than a few encounters without having to stop somewhere and heal, and a lot of the good healing items are hidden behind the cooking system which you have to wait until way later on to unlock recipes for via money unless you're willing to risk expensive items to test things out.
Mid and endgame it's quite fun, especially because you can kit out Vi with certain medals or focus on Leif to do a lot of the heavy lifting like Kabu and whoever you didn't choose is your support.
Endgame/Postgame content like the 50 battles in a row and the boss rush are my least favorite part because it feels like you need very specific item, medal, and character compositions to do at all and it feels like I need a guide just to help me out through that since the only thing I could figure out on my own was poison Vi strats which don't work in the boss rush.
The story is interesting, the few surprises it does have are interesting, and the friendship between the cast is fantastic including how they all handle their flaws. Areas are hit or miss, the final areas are especially big misses overall with extremely tanky enemies and uninteresting visuals. Side quests are a bit esoteric though and several require a lot of unintuitive steps or roundabout things you have to do to solve them.
I never played either of the Paper Mario games, so I can't really say how it is in relation to them, but I quite liked it even without any sort of nostalgia, so I'd it stands on its own merits, though a bit of a slow starter
fug bables? dont mind if i do.