What are the best vidya featuring shogun?
>inb4 shogun
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What are the best vidya featuring shogun?
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Nioh 1
Nioh 2
I asked for good games
Nioh 2
>show called shotgun
>hold a matchlock
i shiggy diggy
Shotguns can be matchlock, brainlord
Samurai used firearms all the time you brainlet
Katana honor autism is something nerds invented later on, actual samurai in their day were violent, deceptive, oppressive c**ts. Western ideas of honor (charity, chivalry, honesty, protecting the weak, etc) is different than asian honor (saving face, unquestioning loyalty, avoiding shame, great achievements).
Good job completely misreading and misunderstanding the post youre replying to
Love it when 3 iq morons are looking so hard for an opportunity to make authoritative posts about unrelated subject since they misunderstood something
>just noticed he said shotgun, not shogun
I guess I'm the brainlet
Nioh is literally about the guy who inspired the Shogun novel
I wanted to save him bros.
I didn’t. He sucked ass. Now my wife mariko-sama on the other hand…
Is that fricking Kakihara from Ichi the Killer?
Yes it is
Kinda cool how in the book and show he's an outright snake and doubledealer, but you can't help rooting for him anyways.
Dynasty Warriors. Yeah it's Chinese or something, but 10 year old me didn't know that, I just liked running around as a super powerful hero slicing down all those soldiers and occasionally running into another hero to kill.
Koei made a version about the Sengoku period of Japan. PLAY IT YOU MOTHERFRICKER.
New Netflix series is a very different beast than old show or book or history, but I wouldn't call it garbage.
Do you understand how much of a dick you have to be to contend for the Shogunate?
More than just a bit. But compare it to China. Look at the LOWEST number of people who die when a new guy takes over. Makes Nanjing look like barbie horse adventure.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/418240/Shadow_Tactics_Blades_of_the_Shogun/
when mariko died the season and show ended. if you claim you watch for anything but mariko or the other jap girl u gays fawn over u are a shill. this is fact
your C tier waifu ain’t worth shit.
now MY WIFE on the other hand…
forgot picrel
>random Asian woman you just met is prepared to kill her countrymen to save you
Is it that easy for Anjins in the Japans?
haven't watched but ngl the costumes seem pretty high quality
they actually look real and worn-in. most shows manage to somehow make clothes look like unreal obvious props that have only just been taken out of their crisp plastic wrap
I think that's it, also the fabric/material or whatever looks real
they probably used real silk, since japs of any means used silk in everything back then if they could help it. they must have had some period specialized armorsmiths working on the show or something too. its pretty good for something thats usually bad and takes me out of a show
I noticed in the credits they have several people credited as "Kimono technicians" or something like that, which made me laugh at the time, but just goes to show the kind of high quality design the show has.
Bullshit jobs 🙁
Bullshit jobs Japan 😮
Amazing
Yabu's drip is insane.
I wonder how many people noticed he had Hachiman written on the back of his robe.
I started out loving Mariko but stopped caring after a few episodes. She literally spends 90% of the show wanting to kill herself and it just gets boring.
she's just like me
Yabushige was the best character in the series. And he even cleared Mariko canonically and metaphorically
>canonically
You're alright, anon-sama.
Way of the Samurai.
total war shogun 2
I read the book last year and have so far seen a couple of episodes of the old mini series. Pretty good stuff. I was surprised that the Japs speak Japanese in the series and that it's not even subbed.
A friend of mine watched an episode of the new Netflix series. It's apparently garbage. No surprises there.
>It's apparently garbage
Your friend is an idiot then.
I have faith in him in this case. He's both a weeb and a normalgay at the same time and he told me about the aspects he didn't like. I very much doubt I would either.
The other side if the thing is that I just don't really need to see it. The novel was pretty good, I like the old series and I really doubt a modern take on a novel like that is capable of being good. But even if it is, then so be it: I don't need to watch, read or play everything. I'm glad to hear that you liked it.
That said, a game on the intrigues of the novel, its story and the world could be really neat.
>Both a weeb and a normal gay
No such thing. He is either a weeb or a normal gay that watches anime only because it's popular in todays age. He is not cultured.
He doesn't even watch that much anime these days. But he gushes about Japan, its practices and its culture and history, speaks a bit of the language, runs an aikido school has been to the country several times, owns a katana, several kimonos and yukata (which he sometimes wears in public) etc. But he also has a wife and a kid.
Nah I’m a weeb who likes 80s/90s (my favourite anime is legend of the galactic heroes) and live a pretty normal life with a woman. I own no merch so I hide it well.
>I own no merch
Not a weeb
If you're not an actiongay brainlet and have actually read a book before it's good, you're friend is wrong. As someone who has read the book as you have I find the 2024 adaption to be superior in every way. Again, like the 80s adaption, John and Mariko's relationship isn't as romantic as I'd like it to be, however.
>Asian men hate the show because a white guy fricks Asian women
>Catholics hate the show because John Blackthorne hates them
>Protestants hate the show because John didn't do a whole lot to defeat the Catholics
>Bookgays hate the show because it didn't copy the books 1:1
>Marvelgays hate the show because there is no soulless epic battle or orange slices
>Illiterates hate the show because they have to read subtitles
>Normies hate the show because because Japan is too weird for them
>Zoomers hate the show because it's longer than 5 seconds and thats too much time away from their phones
>Contrarians hate the show because it's good
>Boomers hate the show because a 1980 version exists and "Old Good, New Bad" is their slogan
>Animegays hate the show because Toranaga doesn't have an episode long fight with Ishido that takes place mid-air with their katanas clashing a thousand times a second
>/misc/ hates the show because it didn't have John become Shogun while turning Japan into his personal harem
>Only the cultured few who wanted to see a story that remained authentic and true to the Japanese culture of the period enjoyed the show.
Your friend was filtered
Literally impossible to refute.
You forgot the most important one, mullato zoomer
>Black folk hate the show because they're not represented in a time and place they didn't exist
Black folk love Kungfu-Jap shit though.
It's liberals that hate non-forced diversity.
Black folk love the show though? they made almost half of the shogun memes that spread on twitter/tiktok
blacks adore Shogun
Incorrect. There was Yasuke and.........well, shit
Yasuke was Oda’s peg boy. He was never a samurai.
BBC live rent free in your inferior low iq inbred dying out cracker mind
>they're not represented in a time and place they didn't exist
Ever heard of Yasuke? my homie? racism cant whitewash him
It's a good show but the only downside is the weird distorted visual lens effect they have, it actually gave me a headache.
Sometimes the dialogue drags on too long especially when it's predictable.
I like that john was portrayed as kind of a scoundrel and that people considered him someone to be used and discarded rather than easily impressed by.
Asian men shouldn't be mad at all because they really toned down the romance from the book, hell even the real life guy had more of a wish fulfillment fantasy than blackthorn, he loved japan.
>Toranaga doesn't have an episode long fight with Ishido that takes place mid-air with their katanas clashing a thousand times a second
This but unironically
Based, I also wanted more chain shot body explosions. Also those stupid c**ts should all die for wasting a perfectly good rabbit stew.
>orange slices
DONT SAY NO
JUST LIVE MORE
My biggest question was, why wasn't Mariko the protagonist? For all intents and purposes, she's the one actually doing stuff, the one with an inner conflict, the one who drives most of the action forward (aside from Toranaga and Ishido) and, in general, has more going on than John. I've been left wondering if something is missing from the books to justify why John should be the centerpiece, and not just simply have taken over once Mariko dies to deliver the epilogue.
Also I was left confused because he's clearly shown back in England or wherever yet the last episode is making it sound like Toranaga absolutely won't ever let him leave Japan.
It was a dream, not a flash-forward.
...ooooooohhh...
Well that was fricking confusing, what kind of wierd ass fever dream is it to imagine yourself old and in bed?
It was to show him that if he made it back to England his mind would always be on Mariko, even as he is lying in his death bed. He had to leave her behind in the ocean.
He is shown in England holding Marikos cross. It was his fever dream in Osaka. When he returned to the fishing village and took a boat out to sea with best girl Fuji, he dropped the cross in the ocean, thus confirming that he won't return to England.
She was a protagonist though
Blackthorne is the clear protagonist of the novel. Dropping the protagonist to an unfamiliar world is an ages old plot hook. Dunno what they did in the new series. Mariko is an important figure in the book but Blackthorne is much much more influential.
I mean in the book you get all of his inner dialog which makes him the main character. less of a thing for TV shows, which is why they're never 1:1 like the books theyre based on
No one would follow women to battle.
There wasn't a single battle.
Japan had a lot of female warriors in this time, it's during the Edo period where the woman's role is reduced to what we see today.
they still werent leading because that was the men's role. whether or not they trained to fight was really up to their father since that was something you needed to start with at a very young age to not just die right away in a fight with someone who has trained that long
You have a source for this?
women were also samurai and by definition were allowed to carry swords. most of them were smart enough to know fighting is a stupid pursuit when they controlled everything in a household that mattered already but there are definitely isolated cases of female warriors in battle
give sauce, you pussy-whipped cretin
It’s called history b***h learn it incel
can't give a source. LoL
choke on a female's turd, you vulva sucker
Of course.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onna-musha
That's not that many but they were there, I suppose. I guessed it could be discussed whether someone trained in martial arts is a warrior if fighting is not actually your profession or what you you regularly do.
Popiular media is so saturated by the typical samurai stereotype that I can't even imagine a female samurai outside of anime.
doesnt help that the edo period was so peaceful that women were largely muscled out of the fighter role and put into more domestic duties by default. but its not surprising since even among the male samurai most martial prowess was lost and you only saw an interest in the martial arts again during the meiji period which is pretty recent relatively speaking
"women were muscled out of the fighter role"
delusional female-worshipper.
if they were "strong enough" to Have that Role, how were they Forced/ Muscled out from being "fighters"?
you take things too literally moron-kun
Anon you’re being a moron people are trolling you.
I don't know if you're shitposting or just conflating women defending their homes from bandits with spears during wartime as being female warriors.
NTA but that scene you saw where Mariko and Ochiba spar with naginatas was quite literally the rule. Women were expected to fight, often just so they could defend the household, but nothing stopped them from actually participating in battle.
>Try to bne
>The lady of the house beats me down and rapes me
oh no haha
"expected to fight"
LeL
It’s called read a fricking book anon. The chicks in Samurai Warriors aren’t made up.
>a fricking book
is not a source. Neither is
>look it up, bro
or
>just google it, moron
Just look up Kunoichi or female samurai it’s not hard.
I could, but that's still not a source to
>Japan had a lot of female warriors
I was interested if anon had a source for this claim, which he or someone else to an extent had. I'm not going to just google something.
Not warriors in the sense of heading out to fight wars for the local daimyo, but they sure as hell.knew how to fight. While the men were away fighting wars, the wives and daughters watched the household. To that end, they were all trained extensively with spears and bows on the off chance some punk bandits drop by looking to rob them. An otherwise dainty and delicate flower of a woman cutting men down with a naginata is the cultural equivalent of Rosie the Rivoter for the Japs
>Kunoichi
This isn't Naruto, bro. They didn't fight. They poisoned your food or stabbed you when you sleep.
Yeah that’s still ninja stuff
>>a fricking book
>is not a source.
What the FRICK is a source if not a book?
He wants you to shove him into a time machine and take him back to 1500s japan to show him female samurai. Thats the only source he would accept
A source is a passage from a book or any other applicable work that you use to support your argument.
>dude just write an essay with cited sources to prove a basic fact to some random idiot on an anonymous image board
You don't need to do that. But you do need to show what in your supposed source supports your argument. Often just a copy-paste is enough. If you can't do as little as that you are probably full of shit.
dude dont care. give me a source on why I should fricking care if you believe me or not
Don't worry. I don't care about you either. I already got replied to my question by some smarter anons.
>>a fricking book
>>is not a source.
Anon……
says the feminist and revisionist
Toranaga's the protagonist, John's just the fish out of water perspective.
I don't think Toranaga would work as protagonist because most of the intrigue throughout the story is trying to guess what Toranaga is planning and what is he truly aiming for. Mariko works because ultimately, the deciding factor and the biggest point of tension in Shogun is whether Mariko is going to do what Toranaga expects of her or not.
I hate the show because of that SEA filth pretending to be Japanese.
This. Rather they'd have gotten chinks or asiatics at least if they couldn't find any more Japs to cast instead of SEABlack folk.
>animegays hate...
We hate it because there isn't enough tea autism. I need deep discussion about the philosophical nature of tea, its relevance to the province, how the choice of cup signifies the purity of the soul, and zen.
Dumb frogposter.
But not completely wrong frogposter. Watch some Jidaigeki and see that he's not that far off.
Japan destroyed the heart of it's culture, the Samurai system in a desperate attempt to modernize, and avoid being colonized and fricked up the ass by the european powers. And was SUCCESSFUL.
And after getting fricking nuked, they threw out their Brittish Emprire style system, and went full commerce, and pulled THAT off as well.
moronic post
Kessen
Unironically Pokemon Conquest.
Was Tokugawa Ieyasu this much of a dick in real life?
I mean he did become Shogun of Japan. You don't do that without being a bit of a dick.
He had dickish moments, but he's got nothing on Oda "burn down a whole Buddist temple complex because they said something mean" Nobunaga.
Do people have anything else on Oda being an butthole because every time people just mention the same thing. It's like it's all they know.
Everyone with half a brain realize those monks had it coming. He wasn't worse than everyone else of the era, just better at what he did.
He honestly wasn't that bad. Everyone did this shit to varying degrees. The only thing Nobunaga did was not give moronic Buddhist sects special treatment.
Dude had a shiny Rayquaza they knew what was coming.
What would Toranaga, Mariko and John’s perfect links be?
He wore leather riding boots inside a temple once. Unforgiveable
oda saw religion as a whole as a detriment to unifying japan and you know what? he was right. with the buddhist temples basically castrated during and after his rule they never held any sway in japanese politics ever again.
>shintoism caused hedonism and a shitty emperor resulting in the first schism of japan
>buddhism caused hedonism and a shitty shogunate and a shitty emperor resulting in another schism of japan
>ieyasu realized Christianity would do it next so banned that shit quick
Monks are literal bandits, they had their own army and terrorized peasants and stole all their food
Oda killing people who were actively fricking with him but thought they were invincible because of religion is based actually. The coping japs do to justify what he did is still funny though.
That's why he unified Japan. A man of lesser quality would have crumbled here.
>That's why he unified Japan
Nobody tell him
Tokugawa and Hideyoshi would have cuck to the religious political powers. If Nobunaga hadn't destroyed the religious priests, Hideyoshi and Tokugawa would have been stopped by the priests and have gotten fricked over by them. Remember, these priests held political power back way before the shogunate rule was even established where they could storm the palace of the emporer and kidnap him for demands.
Oda killed those monks because they were gun running fricks.
Oda and Hideyoshi did 99% of the work of unifying Japan, then Hideyoshi died prematurely and Ieyasu overthrew his 10-year old son to become shogun.
Mostly due to a clause that meant he didn't have to invade korea, so his army was at full power while everyone else's got smoked.
I think half the reason of the korean invasion is to smoke their armies since hideyoshi doesn’t really have strong grip on the daimyo, and sending them out to get them killed or rule the korean and not offer them chance to build up and rebel
Tokugawa Ieyasu was mostly the kind of leader who's standing behind the other leaders actually doing stuff and then just stepping up to clean up what remains once the carnage is over and take power.
who /fuji/ here
Only started liking her after Mariko died.
Always since the beginning. Even more when she was holding the lance
Fuji is pure OLEV.
Me Fuji
Me Fuji long time
So did she go become a nun or did she get BONGed?
Yes
>John convinced her to dump her husband's ashes into the ocean
What do you think?
100% best girl
Blows me away how obsessed amerturds are about Japan. Meanwhile Japanese history is mostly really fricking dull and surprisingly recent. As far back as Roman days, it was still just a Chinese colony. The Japanese didn't cut off ties with the mainland until the 19th century.
> Muh samurai
Wouldn't even be able to take on a basic hussar with their shit steel and bamboo armour, let alone a knight of the middle ages.
> Muh honour
Was common to all martial cultures, but with the Japanese it was pure cope as the samurai were literally just hired thugs in fancy dress that kept their population under the thumb of warlords through terror.
They are a disgusting, filthy nation of barbarians who sent our grandparents to death camps as recently as WW2. If you simp for Japan as a westerner, you are subhuman trash.
This dude's an asian scared his women are getting stolen by BWC. Get that Japussy bros.
Your grandparents fought for the wrong side, checkmate.
>muh
Sorry, GREAT-grandparents
They fought for the side that won, son.
Lol.
How is that future treating you today? If i were you i’d dig up my “winning” grandpa’s corpse just to spit on it
Guy on the left is no hero of mine.
>Was common to all martial cultures, but with the Japanese it was pure cope as the samurai were literally just hired thugs in fancy dress that kept their population under the thumb of warlords through terror.
off hussars and other Eurogay knights
lmfao, lmao even
moron
best show of 2024
the most basic b***h samurai jap movie, yet normalgays are going mental over it
why?
because it’s not overly moronic like the movies you are referring to
It's not a film nor is it really like a basic samurai film. There's maybe 2 fight scenes.
It's rare to get a solidly *good* dramatic tv series post The Americans
Nioh, moron.
Pointless thread
I thought Nioh is just a weeb version of borderlands
mariko-sama is hot af definitely carried the show because blackthorne was a bit of a gay honestly
Not to be like "they all look the same" but that is literally the evil chick.
fact they're all intentionally using the same hairstyle doesn't help
the entire show was a fricking gay. legit the definition of mediocre
you're mediocre
are you mad davido-kun? mad that your weeb show is mediocre? are you gonna shit and piss your pants and commit sudoku?
Ochiba is the kind of woman every man needs. She just has to be crazy for YOU rather than against you.
1000%
all rook same
Kessen 1 and Kessen 3.
Jesus how I wish for the remastered version.
get colonized nippongays
Dynasty warriors
Blackthorn looks like Oliver Pocher.
A gigantic German moron that practically nobody likes.
It ruined the show for me.
So, redpill me on the show? Is it something that I can watch with my dad?
Pretty good. The only thing is the amount of gore.
Arigato Gankerros
there's like 1 scene where you see a prostitutes boobs then it's just yap yap yap yap muh honor muh loyalty muh you don't get it muh suicide for 9 episodes
If you're dad is one of those mail order bride type boomers he'd love it.
It's pretty sophisticated, lots of culture clashing and eastern philosophy mixed with the overall struggle for power plotlines. Like another anon said there's considerable gore, there's not a lot of it but when it's there it's very explicit. Such as decapitations and intestines pouring out whenever the samurai commit sudoku
Dynasty Warriors
I watched this show recently. What was the point of hanging the bird to rot?
he just wanted to frick with them
but then they literally killed that one jiji over it
I see. I guess being on land for too long does that to a sailor
he hung it up to cook it later but forgot about it. also maybe meat doesnt do as well in that climate like it does in jolly old england
but they were in canada
I just reacted to it because weebs have told me japs detest all impure things, such as rot. I get that the MC doesn't know or care about that, I suppose I just wanted the japs in the show to validate that claim
They hate rot but they were also commanded by their master to ignore the unclean object. it was an unstoppable force vs. and immovable object and someone was going to die in the end
You are in fact supposed to let game birds hang out in the air for a while before plucking them, and it was winter. It shouldn't have gone bad that quickly.
REMINDER THAT MARIKO-SAMA DIES IN THE END
its a pretty glorious death though
it wasn’t. seppuku would’ve been much better. I whipped my dick out even just to get fricking wienerblocked
nah, dying in a huge explosion during a ninja attack is pretty based.
Spoiler
The book has been out for like 40+ years
I wasn't born in that time and I didn't know about the book until I watched the series
>uurrrrr i no born when book write!!!!
just admit you dont read, moron
I bet you didn't read Kane and Able homie
We live and we die
>when you get stuck on the terrain during a boss fight
shame, really
We Sneed and we Chuck
they foreshadow her death many, many times
>suicidal character dies
Shocked!
>mariko's staged chimpout
>not the gigachad she let walk to his death so she could pull this dumb shit
I think he cut off the first guard's fingers as he went for his sword, giving him time to kill his counterpart. That was great.
THIS MOTHERFRICKER RIDES IN FROM SENDAI TO SLAP YOUR GIRLFRIEND'S ASS AND SEND JAPANESE PEOPLE TO MEXICO. WHAT DO YOU DO?
THE ROAD TO BUSHIDO ENDS IN DEATH.
It's a good thing we had YOUR dumb frogposter ass to remind us.
oh. Sengoku Basara.
That’s Mitsuhide if I’m correct right? Idk I’ve only played Pokemon conquest
Doom
Is Fujiko ugly/homely in the new miniseries?
What a trash ending. This why I don't watch anything made after the mid 2000s.
Nioh 1
Nioh 2
You literally play as William Adams in Nioh 1 (the guy Blackthrone is based on), and serve Ieasu Tokugawa (Toranaga from the show)
If you dislike those then im sorry for you having a shit taste, and i cant help you then
>is based on
you mean the shogun show is actually historically canon?
It takes a lot of dramatic license, but yes. William Adams didn't actually spend his life in Japan touring sex shops with his translator.
Let's be honest he probably did.
Well, you have to spend the weekend somehow.
You’re telling me you wouldn’t when you probably have the biggest wiener for miles around?
My man it's literally the first thing I would do.
Was prostitution still legal in Japan during his time? I know right now it isn't, which obviously doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but it does make it harder to find, especially for an outsider.
>inb4 tachinbo
Not a historian but,
the show puts a lot of effort into portraying geishas as a big part of the culture, so I'm guessing yes.
Oh I meant during the book writter's time. In sengoku jidai it was obviously legal.
geishas didnt exist yet anon. thats established during the edo period. his other book gai-jin really gets into it though
Oh so that's why he gives the brothel madam her own land, very cool
Yeah that’s what that whole plot regarding Kiku’s Mistress was about. Tokugawa basically invented Geishas (indirectly).
if you want to control all of the well to do men in your society and know what theyre up to, controlling the sex trade is a 10000 iq move
GEISHAS ARE NOT PROSTITUTES.
PROSTITUTES WERE LEGAL.
AIJINSAN ABSOLUTELY FRICKED SOME.
AFTER THE BLACK SHIPS ARRIVED THE LEAD NEGOTIATIOR FOR AMERICA DEMANDED TEENAGERS, AS IN MULTIPLE, AND SENT THE FIRST ONE BACK.
HERE IS THE MONUMENT TO HIM IN CHIBA.
THIS IS WHAT A PROSTITUTE PARADE LOOKED LIKE IN EDO JAPAN.
Nah it’s more like you pay for a ladies company and she feels “compelled” to have sex with such a gentlemen. So you’re not really paying for sex, rather her time. Also courtesans at the time. were very skilled musicians and orators so they had a lot going on.
its 100% a huge thing. play Like a Dragon, its a big part of it
that being said, anything outside of expensive escorts is largely inaccessible to foreigners
I have no doubt it is, but I stand by what I said. It being illegal does make it harder to find compared to if it wasn't, especially for an outsider.
thats because its a trade controlled by the yakuza and the yakuza doesn't frick with foreigners (in japan at least)
was his translator as hot as mariko though?
>historically canon
Yes. Significant dramatic licence, but absolutely. This is his statue in Fukuoka.
He existed, but 99% about the book is based on HIS tale, so hint, hint, people lie a lot.
>characters speak portoguese
>it's actually english
dropped for moronation
>protogoose
i don't need to spell properly to make a good point
proper grammar and pronounciation is first step to make people believe your point is good.
>Can't spell.
Dropped for moronation.
i'm never coming to brazil
I watched like five minutes while winding down after work while my mom had it on, just seems like weebshit made by mutts obsessed with the one country whose culture isn't verboten to admire while completely disregarding the European side of things.
deez nuts
well this was as climactic as a high school handjob
>hfw bamboozling both sides
This mfer is a literal gigachad god walking among mere mortals holy based, unfathomably kino.
If you bamboozle everyone, including yourself, you shall never be bamboozled - Tornado-sama, 1600
Do you have your death poem written yet, Ganker?
Not yet, I have to write another will first.
Based
Hold on, i gotta add some stuff to my Topsters Death List
why do chuds love william adams but seethe over yasuke?
both were real people
William Adams was an accomplished man of many talents and helped Tokugawa shape his policies for the future, and has multiple sites across Japan celebrating him
Yasuke was a pet monkey and all "facts" about him are only cropping up out of thin fricking air in recent years
One had real acomplishments in the development of the Tokugawa eras, while the later was a just a hired blade.
Plus, at this point, people are making shit up on Yasuke propping him up like some anime character. Kek
Genshin Impact
Best way to experience Shogun is to watch both the 1980s and New Series. Treat the 1980s as Anjin’s POV and the new series as Mariko’s PoV
Problem is the supposed protagonist is the dullest part of the show.
>Don't want a white saviour story
>Practically write the white man out of the plot and only keep him around for comic relief or to make Toranaga seem like he's 300IQ
John and Mariko legit had negative chemistry
And he still gets to bone her.
>John and Mariko legit had negative chemistry
It's not Pocahontas, they're from completely different cultures and have completely different views on the world. The point is that there's tiny things they have in common.
Also the chemistry was better than Mariko and her husband.
>Also the chemistry was better than the arranged marriage that was immediately sabotaged by political intrigue and endless please for sudoku
What a bar to vault
>John and Mariko legit had negative chemistry
They had JAV chemistry, where Mariko doesn't really seem into him at all because she's cold and socially awkward and so entrenched in weird Japanese rituals that she barely seems to have any emotion at all, and John is lost and horny and just wants to frick.
I thought the scene where she translated for Kiku was hot af.
god I hate that homie. you know who should’ve gotten the role instead?
he even looks very british
the guy they picked looks southern european
that’s because he IS British. and doesn’t look like a 70IQ moron. Blackthorn acts quite ballsy in the show but I can’t take that actor seriously
It's a shame Purefoy is getting on in years. He loves historical stuff and playing morally questionable types.
Nah, his mannerisms were kino
Are you out of your mind? Watching this bong bumble his way through Japan's upper echelons and pulling the gaijin card constantly was pure kino.
he really did frick all in the show except fricking some jap pusy
well, he saved Toranaga and all of his retainers twice during the escape episode
are they going to do a show based on gai-jin? admittedly it would be a lot less interesting outside of the political and diplomatic stuff but it is something of a "what happens after" for shogun. it even has a descendant of adams mentioned briefly, as being the dead husband of the french spy's prostitute
>uses a wide angle lens with motion blur constantly
hmm maybe a snoy game
Yeah idk what they were thinking with that shit.
The photographer was probably a woman.
>Show about Europe and pre-Sekoku 'tism fit Japan
>It's about some boring-ass angloid Black person instead of the Portuguese, Dutch or Spanish
Dropped.
>favelamonkey still mad there were not japs talking his ugly pig latin
It was about Tokugawa's rise to power. Not you swarthy chancing pikers
>>It's about some boring-ass angloid Black person instead of the Portuguese, Dutch or Spanish
Go diddle a child, Papist frick
>136 replies
>0 mention of Gekokujo for warband
Ganker is dead
I already unified the japans in gekokujo, what else is there to do? I'm now waiting for Shokuho. Fricking pleb.
the real shocker is how an offtopic tv show thread is more active than vidya threads. Ganker is dead as hell
Is it actually good? I could never get into the blackpowder era expansion, and figured TC mods would be broken as frick.
Though I recently saw a WHFB conversion for Butterlord and it seemed pretty rad
>What are the best vidya featuring shogun?
How hard of a feature we talking? Because if you want to BE the Shogun then it's some strategy slop.
If you just want a Shogun featured or mentioned there's lots of kino such as Sekiro and Way of the Samurai etc
I’d be interested in watching a show about Hasekura after watching a YT video on him.
Dude was a Samurai who lived around the same time as William Adams, and who travelled to Mexico, Spain, and Rome on a mission for his Lord. His story has a grim end (funny enough because of William Adams turning the Shogun against Catholics) but hit efforts became appreciated 200 years later when Japan opened itself back to the world
I doubt adams had much to do with turning the new shogunate against christians. the christian church acting as basically an extension of portuguese trade and attempting to use daimyos to undermine japanese authority sealed their fate
*catholics I mean
Dude was basically 5th in charge of Japan after 1600 and created their trade lmao.
Catholics were fricked irregardless of who won. They burned every single bridge and then some. That sending of rifles to christian daimyos for a revolt is something that happened, since thats precisely the sort of skullduggery they got up to literally everywhere else
I also thought this. Like now that they’re done with shogun they should do a historical equivalent of the opposite.
Whatever, enough Japan. I want to see Clavell's super long hong kong series made into television
>William Adams turning the Shogun against Catholics
Based. Frick the Pope
It wasn't JUST the Aijinsama. You know what they found when they landed in Mexico?
What happens when a proud warrior race gets civilized by the Spanish.
Seeing Spanish shenanigans in their colonies had a BIG influence on rejecting the Catholics.
>when you see it
Why did they put any Invasion on Korea reference in the show?
This will 100% for sure cause a huge backlash when it's aired in Korea.
Because banzai Nippon > Kuckrea that's why
They banned it because of that line, koreans are such fricking piss babies, worse than blacks and israelites even
Koreans are the Americans of Asians.
Koreans are the Future Lawyers and Doctors of Asia
Lmao okay Koreafat!
I think he means bl*ck people
all asians are piss babies, even more than whites and white israelites
Asian males are. Which is good because then their women flock to us white men.
Who the frick gives a shit about koreans? Let them chimp.
>Koreans
Who the frick cares? In any case it mentions how korea beat back japan anyways, or at least korean geography did
Koreans that the biggest inferiority complex against Japan. It reminds me of how they wanted the “rising sun” to be taken out of Tanjiro’s earrings in Demon Slayer
My Chinese ex once told me that my hero academia was banned in China because this one villain had the name of a historical jap doctor who did fricked up things in asia. Dude is even a villain in the anime, but apparently that wasn't enough.
These non jap asians are way too fragile.
Its the equivalent of having a Venture Bros villian named Dr.MENG?
lmao
The name got changed later but yeah that's a hilariously thin skinned
But it's okay when Koreans do a TV show about Yi Sun-shin?
…or there biggest slave trade in the history of the earth portion of their existence?
I know North Korea gets all of the coverage but South Korea is also fricking crazy. Their government outlawed beards once, with the fricking death penalty if you grew a beard.
John had the perfect wife right under his nose the whole time
pretty sure they bang in the book so, he has his perfect wife forever
or at least longer than he had Mariko, that is.
She really is cute
my wife………
>talks for 30 minutes about the shit that happened with his gardener and how he was the one who killed him in the end
>THE ANJIN IS UPSET ABOUT HIS GARDENER
He didn't know they would do that shit bro
He means Mariko was a terrible translator who kept paraphrasing
The frick? Pretty sure that wasn't in the novel. In fact, Fujiko helped Mariko sleep with him.
and certainly no one knew for sure. but I guess its needed all that extra drama
anon... it's an edit
>it should have been me, not her!
I am almost certain that is fake, I don’t remember that scene at least lol.
>When I tell my servants to kill anyone who disobeys me they.... kill anyone who disobeys me
japs are too autistic to understand old English sarcasm
Shogun 2: Fall of the Samurai
...a young boy...? What am I, a god-cursed sodomite?!
Based
It's pretty funny how pretty they've made her in both adaptations. I the novel she's said to be quite homely.
>American playing a bong
>Armenian playing a bong
Bongs have a huge pool of actors that would have been great for the role, what gives?
>once kino ends and the Ganker threads have run their course, the threads cascade down to Ganker
why does this always happen
Because Ganker loves samurai shit as they should
because you can't spell Ganker without Ganker
Ganker and Ganker have a lot of crossposters
Tom's busy dreaming about Nootka
because Ganker threads are always great when they're not about videogames
looking for chambara recs, if you say last samurai I will seppuku your ass
that tom cruise movie was really good, forgot what it was called
Hideyoshi is a great japanese TV series from the 90s about Hideyoshi
ah you mean the Nioh 2 protagonist? nice
yes Toyotomi Hideyoshi, famously known as being that character from Nioh 2
I have always loved yojimbo. I know it is "overused" but its just so fun. Definitely one of my favorite movies. Its also easy for normies to enjoy because of the humor. I can get someone to watch yojimbo, but i couldnt get anyone to watch ran or seven samurai. They lose interest.
Harakiri 1962 my man
Bushido: Cruel Code of the Samurai
Demons
Goyokin
The Hidden Fortress
Hunter in the Dark
Killing
The River Fuefuki
Ronin-gai
Samurai Rebellion
The Sword of Doom
The Fall of Ako Castle
Samurai Banners
Eleven Samurai
Warring Clans
Ninja Hunt
Kill!
Sekigahara
Samurai Assassin
Three Outlaw Samurai
Tenchu!
Red Lion
Duel at Fort Ezo
The Last Samurai (1974)
The Hidden Blade
Rise Against the Sword
>Sekigahara
just found that one. whats the one that came out recently? saw it on a plane, its about the last few samurai holdouts during the start of the meiji period. had a pretty good gatling gun scene
The Pass: Last Days of the Samurai? Haven't seen it.
thats the one. was really good. its more about the dynamics between the characters but its got some good fights in there too including the aforementioned gatling gun scene
thanks a lot mate
err Arigatou gozaimasu
BUSHIDO BLADE
SAMURAI SHODWON.
Any game where I can romance Fuji Sama?
Unfortunately not
>Japanese humour
It's pretty funny. I was wondering about the smell because you enter the castle through the shit pipe and the first third of the mission is fighting shit-slimes knee deep in waste.
>leaves her alone for nearly a decade while he's hunting down Hundred Eyes
>she still waited for him and he fricked a kid into her
That's some dedication
It's been a while, so I don't remember the timeline at all. Did he not fill her oven before leaving? William's son is decently grown when you meet him in 2.
It's possible. Actually, it gives more context to the scene where she's heartbroken by his disappearance.
We need more WMAF couples in our games.
these are all just (idealized) Japanese dudes with blonde hair
pic rel is one of the only true depictions of a white man in a Jap game
ENOUGH
Fuji is MY wife.
Stick to your dumb mariko bawd
okay fuji…
He could’ve bred them both…
It's not too late for her. I feel certain that she becomes his wife and bears his children after that scene in the boat together.
WOULD
So why didn't Portuguese conquer Japan like they and the other Europeans did to the rest of the world?
Japan wasn't a sleepy fishing village like Maccau, it was an absurdly militarized nation of musket-wielding samurai. It was much too far away from Europe to launch a serious campaign at that point in time, though just a few centuries later even China would fall so it would've happened eventually.
Japan became a colonizer itself.
>Japan became a colonizer itself
Why did Japan invade its Asian neighbours instead of helping and teaming up with them to stand against their common threat, the Western colonialism?
age old enmity and not really understanding the threat the west posed.
Militarists overthrew the government and ran the show until they got nuked.
Because there are generally two reactions possible when faced with western colonialism.
Either you go "We must all stand together against this threat, so I will try to join forces with my fellow natives", or you go "I want me a slice of that pie too, I'll cater to the westerners and try to get stuff from them so I can become a colonialist power like them".
Thailand was like "pls don't colonize us" and europe was like "ugh fine"
China-Japan-Korea is an ancient hate triangle. Also, with China as an ally you have no need for enemies.
They had on-and-off good relations. I mean, the concept of samurai was in vented when Japan went over to fight FOR Korea. It's a shitty modern geopolitical view that they were always enemies.
They wanted to, they didn't invade China to conquer it to but to change its pro-western corrupt government
>As part of its war drive in the Pacific, Japanese propaganda included phrases like "Asia for the Asiatics!" and talked about the need to liberate Asian colonies from the control of Western powers
they pretty did
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_East_Asia_Co-Prosperity_Sphere
Lmao dude propaganda =/= reality. They were saying they were liberating china in nanking while they were raping and butchering half the city.
Their idea of a co-prosperity sphere wasn't asians teaming up against europeans, it was that asians should be THEIR colonial subjects instead.
they literally starved vietnam to death by shipping almost all of their rice production to japan during WW2. it was definitely not a friendly cooperation
>Nanking
Never happened.
Brutality and cruelty weren't really part of Japan's culture.
unit 731 wasnt real either
for sure an entire generation of young men raised to believe they were racially superior to the chinese would NEVER commit atrocities to keep a much larger population terrified and pacified
Yes it was, the average japanese soldier was the worst behaved out of everyone, even russians.
Before the military coup they thought the West was just smarter and overall superior, and so they sought to mimic them as much as possible.
In fact, Western praise and recognition was rather coveted during and after the Russo-Japanese War. They wanted to be equals.
They saw themselves as unironically a western nation and like all western they saw colonizing as their right.
Japan didn't have much in natural resouces so it's not a high priority. They caught on to their shenanigans, and actually sent their own people exploring America and Europe. It's far away. It's hard to navigate and land an expedition. And it's chock full of Japanese looking for a good place to die.
Date Masamune. The eyepatch and the HUGE fricking cresent
This is not a video game
And you’re not a non-virgin, get over it b***h.
code
YMDD-177
>wanting to fap to white women
cope incel.
>wanting to fap to asian man breed white girl
>breed
it's porn, Eurasian Tiger
Dope, Arctic Wyvern
>wanting to fap to asian man breed white girl
yes
gosh this image is fricking hot honestly
size difference is indeed hot.
holy fricking sex
god i wish ronin was out for PC
Take a look at how SOP and Wo Long run, then apply that to an open world game and tell me you can still look forward to the port a year from now.
At least Tsushima releases soon, but I'm not sure how good it is.
It's not coming to PC
Toranaga is the villain, not the protagonist.
>It's not coming to PC
Just like all those other TN games that were Sony exclusive
Why american made japan movies always so soulless?
sony won
Rise of the Ronin. Only for PS5 gods though.
Why is this show portraying Japanese people as bloodthirsty behading warlike psychopaths?
I know the source material is very old but it's not 1980 or something now, right?
Samurai had the legal right to chop your head off if you crossed their path until like the 19th century. And then they threw a hissy fit and overthrew the government when they were told they couldn't do that anymore.
then the emperor goes and gets rid of the samurai class anyways like a fricking chad
But the military occupies the country for the next century or so, bringing untold devastation until America saved the day. God bless the US!
still based because he never has to live to see any of that
Japan became a democracy until they realized westerners were racists and decided to do their own thing
That's being charitable. It was completely out of control. Even the military didn't know what the frick it was doing. It was just overrunning China and various islands without orders or directions, picking fights they most certainly should not have been picking. And everyone who tried to stop them got assassinated, violently and quickly. A sad state of affairs.
Samurai had carte blanche to basically do whatever they wanted, up to and including killing you where you stand for even a perceived slight against them. Turns out dedicating every aspect of your life to killing people makes you kinda psycho, fun fact
You should have mentioned "Up to and including just to test their new sword".
I did mention the psycho part. Figured that would cover it
>Fallout TV releases, Fallout games all got a huge PR boost
>Shogun releases but Koei/Team Ninja did jack shit to PR Nioh
Man what could've been, Japs are dumb as bricks
I don't think anybody was expecting it to be that popular.
No amount of show made by Whitoid cumskin will entice people to play Nioh
nioh is too difficult for the average vidya player, whereas fallout is made from the ground up to cater to the casual audience
what would be the point? ronin and tsushima are more recent anyway
I'm late to the party but what's general reception of nioh like? I never looked into it but played nioh 2 recently and now I'm addicted to it. What do other people think? I rarely see threads on Ganker now that I actively look for them
It was fairly well received. Wasn't alot of souls clones when it first came out so it was nice to have something besides DS to play. Personally I found the stance system kino as hell, which more games would utilize it
Yeah the combat system as a whole, over the top aesthetics and build variety has me hooked. Seems very far removed from other souls in terms of gameplay
Some NGgays hate it because diablo loot. Some Soulsgays hate it because R1 O playstyle doesn't carry them. Otherwise, well received. You tend to get a decent cluster of active threads when there's a sale.
I'll keep an eye out. I'm still on NG1 but I feel obsessed. I can tell blacksmith forging/tempering for maximum % autism is gonna have me hooked to complete builds in ng+. I love the tonfa and kusarigama.
>Portuguese
>ugly, stupid, dishonest, gay priest
>English
>hot, smart, honorable, gets Jap pussies
So this is basically the Isekai cope from the Anglo writer, right?
portuguese were literally global bandit scum under the protection of the pope. theres no historical fact that can contest this
why would an american self-insert as an englishman? rub those two brain cells together
a 2024 American and a 2024 Englishman would each be equally correct to consider a 1600 Englishman their ancestor
not necessarily, america is made up of a lot of euro ancestry
everybody wanted a slice of the new world
No shit..
Age of Empires III Asian Dynasties
metal gear solid revengeance
>CTRL+F Rance
>0 results
You fricking people
It's a garbage game for EOPs.
watch Sanada kino
There should be more samurai game where you can romance white women. Way of the Samurai 4 did it right.
>You can sneak into Laura Lita's house and frick her
I still have no idea how this passed a ratings board.
>model being grimey and realistic
>anime character
It's both blessed and cursed tbh
"Toranaga-sama, the Anjin has prepared a dish from his homeland for your enjoyment!"
Why were they so disgusted by the stew he prepared? Do asians not eat meat?
Not many people would eat a rotten fermenting bird
moron it was rabbit stew
It’s British stew anon, their cuisine barely classes as food today let alone 4 centuries ago.
>Toranaga sama the Anjin is trying to poison us!
So much nice food and thanks to the internet all people bring up is toast sandwiches and stargazy pie
Fools will ruin life for themselves, I suppose
Name one British dish that isn’t brown slop or jellied (Scottish/Irish/Welsh/Indian derived dishes don’t count).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toast_sandwich
The definition of brown slop. Regardless, bastardisation of a superior French dish. The Brits are the Chinese of white people, copying everyone else.
beef wellington
It’s like you people don’t know what brown slop is!
its bread and meat homie
>brown bread
>soggy meat
Literally brown slop, it’s your language and you can’t even read it.
This might come as a shock to a tribal who has never eaten a cooked dish in his life and subsists mostly on grains, but when you put something to heat it tends to turn brown.
>tribal ooh aaah asiatic monkey banana spear chucked
Damn the English are right moans bastards aren’t they? It’s enough that you took Edinburgh, alright?
>Scottish/Irish/Welsh derived dishes don’t count
What you're after is 'English', then.
Sub-human more like it lmao gottem
which conquered third world country do you come from that anti-anglo tiktoks have defined your personality?
Damn do they really have to bring up their failed empire every time their buck gets broken? I’m a white convict decendant brother, from when you sent all your hot people away.
oh, it was a genetic convict lashing out because his country actually has nothing but heat, hail, and all of nature's most violent mistakes. the wildlife isn't much better, either.
Spoken like a true person who’s never left their street, ya’ soggy c**t.
At least I know what a prepared meal looks like and don't just leave my kangaroo scraps on a rock at high noon, stevie-boy, you animal botherer
It’s called the human experience brother, now excuse me while I go see the sun while chugging me VB. Brush you’re fricking teeth by the way you pommy bastard. You’re not as bad as the seppos I’ll give you that much.
Don't stay out too long, don't want to bake what's left of your brain too quick. Love you too, c**t.
They have so many kinds of pie and casserole, it's pointless listing them all. Trifles are a good dessert, cumberlands are probably my favorite kind of sausage. Scotch eggs are nice as a snack, though some people hate how bready they are. Nice pancakes, too.
Not rotten meat no
Best is the Famicom one based on the novel of course
I believe there’s a sequel to this on the Super Famicom with an English Patch available.
the show is shit, simple as
You're not wrong
Name 3 good shows from the last 5 years.
>last 5 years.
you know as well as I thats impossible
Damn… aside from Shogun I can’t really think of any ive enjoyed enjoyed.
Andor.
Andor, House of the Dragon, Dark
but im nta and I liked Shogun as well
What's Dark about?
German day to day experience after ww2
I shall watch it, thank you. Unless I hate it, in which case, frick you.
Hey I didn’t say it was good.
Hope you enjoy it, anon. It's a good watch if you want some mystery plots that requires a bit of attention to follow along with.
Stable timeloop in small German town leads to troubling amounts of incest.
Shogun
Chernobyl
Cyberpunk
>Chernobyl
Yes.
>Yes.
>Chernobyl
we are just days from this being >5years old
>better call sau-
>“wait a minute when did this exactly premiere?”
>google it
>almost 10 years ago
I hate time…
Raised by Wolves
Sweet Home
ZeroZeroZero
The North Water
Black Bird
I can't wait to play the new Assassin creed Japan as Yasuke.
>whyte dude
>we wuz shogun and shiet
Sekiro, even if you are not playing as a shogun
The White race is dying out because their men end up trooning out and their women prefers brown men over them
So you're saying Sekiro or nioh?
Whatever you say, tiny peepee - your women are literally built for bwc.
Seethe shrimp dick
Lmao whatever you say, *korean hand signature to indicate YOU have the small penis*
total war shogun pc
Onimusha 2: Samurai's Destiny ps2
>total war shogun pc
>Onimusha 2: Samurai's Destiny ps2
sex with samurai women
She was hot until she did the moron face. White chicks can’t do ahegao.
wrong, it's hot when she do the sex face
chicks can’t do ahegao.
Shit take. It’s that ahegao is absolutely fricking moronic, no matter who does it.
Nah, Belle Delphine does pretty excelent ahegao
looney tunes shit wtf
Also her forehead is too big.
>"2/10 elbow is too pointy"
They took cool Japanese history and made it into Sóygun.
Not gonna lie, watching this show has made me want to play Ghost of Tsushima. Can you commit sepukku in that game? I think that should be a mechanic in any Samurai game
You have to mash a button once every second not to commit seppuku. The developers took it too far.
Hell, in Usagi Yojimbo back in 1983, you had a seppuku feature.
Play Rise of the Ronin instead.
not on a real system
It's not out for another year at least and it'll run like abject shit. We'll be lucky if they don't axe the LOD too, like they did with Nioh 2
Best thread Gankers had in months. Fun show to talk about
I agree. God, I hate video-games. I miss when I enjoyed playing them more than talking about them.