What exactly is the purpose of elf ears? In pretty much any fantasy setting, the elf races are basically just humans with bigger ears, and that's really about it. Any loregay autists here care to explain what kind of developmental purpose having pointy ears would be to elves?
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compensation for small penis
why do you think so many elf women go for human men
>so many elf women go for human men
this is ~~*gnome*~~ propaganda
Explain the HUGE half-elf population plaguing fantasy worlds then.
Darkvision is very tempting.
they usually have a dex or int bonus
Tolkiens only had less then a hand full and every other universe its a fetish by the writers.
That's elven MEN impregnating human women who crave the BEC. Elves only give birth to elves, not half-elves.
they can sense mana and give off anal-sex aura. you wouldnt understand human.
>anal-sex aura
Please explain.
all elf holes are naturally self lubricating. it's why elven ""men"" are the way they are
>give off anal-sex aura
Just like lindsay graham's office.
Cute!
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Better hearing and higher intelligence
Not all ears on living things are round there's plenty of animals with pointy ears
Name 2
Cats
Jackie Chan
Ah frick you guys got me.
dog
cat
OK NAME TWO MORE THAT ARE NOT CAT, DOG, RABBIT, BAT, PIG, COW, HORSE, DEER, KANGAROO, FOX, MULE, etc.
bear
coyote
Some dogs, foxes, wolves
Vestigial animal trait. Directional hearing, just like Raiden's microphone.
> the elf races are basically just humans with bigger ears, and that's really about it
This is false. They are usually taller, more beautiful, more intelligent, have a fair complexion, and usually blonde hair.
>they're Aryans
what did Tolkien mean by this
More in the mythical sense than the nazi sense. Tolkien simped for the israelites in life. It always amused me how much they bastardized his work once he died
the folly of being a white leftist
The theme of pure blood being stronger is well established in many religions and definitely in Tolkien's work. From the first people in the Bible living 900-odd years, to the men of good Numenorian stock being bigger, wiser and with greater lifespans than other men. Purity of blood is an important thing.
>what did Tolkien mean by this
Humans will never be Aryans.
not many tolkien elves have blonde hair
Anon, elves in his books didn't have pointy ears at all. They were just tall, that's it.
And they also get bred out and displaced by humans
You don't need to believe an appearance is genetically superior just because it's beautiful. Anglos and all other Germanics considered Scandis to be actual fricking subhumans because they were the only ones chimping out and living in mudhuts while everyone else was civilizing, and Romans considered Germanics subhuman so if they thought this about Scandis you know it was because they were real Black folk.
Yet despite this, Germanics believed Scandinavians were the most beautiful tribe in Europe.
The Romans also believed that wearing pants is "barbaric", but nailing someone to a cross isn't, so I wouldn't give two shits wtf they think.
So did Germanics, so what are you even trying to say?
So just a very specific human
What exactly is the purpose of elf ears?
To looks different from humans. It's the same reason why star trek aliens have shit on their face, you wouldn't know they're aliens if they looked like humans.
i'm watching the original series and most "aliens" are just humans or humans with simple makeup
I swear to god, y'all motherfrickers are intentionally ignorant.
Prosthetics were in their infancy at that time.
They were developed heavily over the next 10-20 years.
This is why Klingons were redesigned.
That and the budget was low for TOS.
yes
Not really OP, if you want to go only by physical appearance sure your "argument" holds water but that's pretty much where the similarities end.
>What exactly is the purpose of elf ears?
Sex appeal
I used to go to school with a girl who wore elf ears every day. Rest assured she was not having sex.
As a kid I'd try to slowly mould my ears into being less pointy and I can assure you I was also not having sex
I used to date a girl who actually got surgery to fix her natural elf ears, and I know another chick who got surgery to give herself elf ears. The duality of woman, I guess.
why didn't you ask her out ?
inb4 she was a fatass
Aside from the elf ears, she was a Flute player in our marching band (an instrument which always housed the strangest people) and was a furry. Also not really my type. The only thing we ever did in school together was drama club.
I had the exact same type of girl in my highschool and she tittyfricked me in the back of the bus on the way home from after school detention. You missed out.
>marching band
>drama
>he didn't emotionally destroy the vulnerable high school furry.
you didn't deserve your youth.
you missed a literal sex machine
oh m8 you have no idea what you missed do you?
I would have asked to have sex with her if she keeps the elf ears on
Cute mule
impregnate marcille
Wasn't she sterile?
Some mad racist wizard said she was a sterlie mule with no further empyrical proofs. Do you believe him?
Well, as a rule of thumb I always believe racists, so yep.
worst b***h
they are for nibbling
These homies get it.
sauce me up homie...
please...
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It's pretty good.
sexo
I still hate how similar 5 and 6 look in diablo
you nibble them while pronebonning elf chicks.
Mark of Cain
Elves are rapebait, but sometimes they're too self-aware of this and cut their hair short so you can't hold on to it.
The long ears evolved so their rapists would always have handles to grab unless they cut their ears off too.
It's so they can hear ugly, fat, morally corrupt humans and orcs walk through the forest from miles away and get their veganas sopping wet and ready in advance.
Dark elves have brown skin because they absorb mana through bukkake.
Because Tolkien's version had "leaf shaped" ears.
That's it. That is the entire basis for modern elves having pointy ears.
Hobbit ears were pointy though.
And that has to do with elves because?
Hobbits are cool
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That's why I'm a burglar
Elf ears are the equivalent to Star Trek TNG having alien races who differ only by some strange mutation on their head. Its to represent a different race/species in the cheapest way possible.
Let me drop a bomb. Tolkien's elves did not have pointy ears. We have someone else to blame for knifeears,
Holding onto while you frick. How is this a question?
you use them as handlebars.
To lick and suckle upon while the elven woman denies that she likes it until she reaches orgasm. When an elf puts the tips if her ears near you lips, you know you two are close.
I dunno. You could probably massage them real good though.
>Character has knife ears just because
It helps with curvature!
Her homeland is on the same continent as the elves funnily enough.
same reason rabbits have long ears.
elves are prey animals and need them to escape predators (me)
It's just taken from old folklore about elves being really small or whatever, then at some point someone probably depicted them as pointy-eared because that represents mischief
Well, chillins', it a story that goes wayyyyyyy back. To time of dark forests and thatched roofs. Back when stepping out side the village was enough to get people talking of spirits and curses. And the spooky thing is, is that it goes futher back than THAT 0.0
Gotta stop. Autism levels are going out of whack
o_o no anon, go on. please.
its this
ha that's funny, i was this anon
that commented on it.
thank you for your autism levels. i could sense them resonating with me in parts of my brain and other areas
The better question is - why did we abandon side ears on catgirls and went for moronic top-of-the-head design as default?
Too elf, not enough cat.
My guess is that it gives a catgirl a more recognizable silhouette with what we would expect from a real world cat.
Apparently, long ears are supposed to indicate a sort of mysticism. Not lying, I just looked this up
Ears keep growing your whole life. A long eared man has many decades of wisdom.
>What exactly is the purpose of elf ears?
So they can hear in elf.
This is the only time I'll give Zelda credit for giving it interesting lore. They're pointed so they can hear the gods
Doesn't this look like the same material the giant ear from Double Dare was made of?
I always imagined that elves ought to have tails to go along with the whole big-eared tree-hugger trope. Traditionally humans like to frick around on horseback and designed armors specifically to protect from archery below, so elves should be swingin' around in trees and hitting from above.
Yea and they should have catlike features because cats have the mischievous personality of elves. Also they should be blue
Elf ears can evoke animal imagery
Those who know, know.
>0.01 chance
THE PRESSURE
>2005
>guildmate tries to get Elven Ears for days
>I say frick it, I'll come and help
>haha anon, join me in the mines for endless farming
>drop them within 5 minutes
>he is absolutely devastated
>give them to him free of charge, teleport away
Did he frick you afterwards?
Anon this was in 2005, gays didn't exist back then.
Their women selected for it and use it as an indicator of whether the male is worth mating with.
for cumming inside
It's just an excuse to be racist towards them.
Elves are humans with pointy ears
Vampires are pale humans
Dwarves are short humans
Orcs are green humans
Demons are red humans
etc.
>vampires often have pointy ears
>dwarfs often have pointy ears
>orcs often have pointy ears
>demon often have pointy ears
I'm sensing a trend in the races you hate.
Any game/manga/anime/comic/cartoon/movie/show/book/etc that depicts elves and fairies as a species that is obviously different from humans that evolved in a different environment instead of as a bunch of prostitutes and homosexuals waiting to be fricked?
Yeah try looking up Lord of the Rings, you might've heard of it.
Still rapebait with pointy ears.
Warcraft
Elves are direct descendants of Trolls
Seeing as elves and trolls are a part of the same group of beings in the original folklore, that is actually a neat idea.
Wheel of Time's pointy eared fantasy race had as little to do with humans as physically possible.
It's a fricking crime what the Amazon show did to Loial.
Discworld.
TES
Elderscrolls easily
Improved median plane sound localization.
There's no scientific reason women should have large breasts too
Sometimes things just be
Big breasts cause benis go hard and something happens and bloodline continues
Sexual evolution is a real and very important reason you fool. It's why elves are flat, It adds to their outlandish appearance.
They are very sensitive.
>draw cute girl
>pair her with an ugly bastard
America please nuke Japan again
We're all ugly bastards to snobby elves.
That adds intensity to her "defeat"
>Elf - perfect physical shape and ageless
>Fat frick - fat and old
>Defeat
???
He puts a baby in her. She was arranged to marry nobility but at the end is exiled and forced to come back to him after losing everyone in her life. Japs believe this is a happy ending btw.
It's a happy ending for the fat guy.
For the woman it should not be a happy ending according to normal male logic but because she's a female character she probably got "mindbroken" into liking it and doesn't want to be "saved" anymore so she's not really unhappy.
>Japs believe this is a happy ending btw.
beautiful pseudo-white woman marries an ugly ass jap
of course it's a happy ending to them
Oo-mox
decorating necklaces.
lick them
They're designed to be grabbed while you rape and impregnate a lowly elfish prostitute.
It's like the naturally leathery yet pliable skin of bare elf male feet. It's perfect for your local human men to kneel down and slather with their wet tongues as a sign of love
elfslayer chronicles is pretty good.
https://1dGanker/wiki/Elfslayer_Chronicles
Are they for real?
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASED
Cute leftovers from when they were smol, tricksy, temperamental mini magical creatures that could help you if you were lost in the forest but would more likely sabotage your journey or lead you to some kind of doom or disapperance. Eventually, they got a taste of village life and started repairing shoes and making cookies in retun for a spot in town and chibi clothing
Or its a sexy not-dark elf thing from the Norse peeps. Either or
this anon gets it
Different ear shape allows the elf to hear sounds the voices of the gods more clearly, it also helps them hear better in forests so they can hunt food and guard their sacred land from bandits and adventurers..
source: my ass
>no yuri fanart of Deedlit and Marcille together
Why is this allowed?
Long and pointy eared Elves are an invention of victorian era english literature.
Actual historic Germanic Pagans regarded Elves as their Ancestors. They used the term Elf to describe their Ancestors, who were buried in burrow mounds for example. They also used the term for Nature Spirits.
Elves are a promise. We were once Elves and with enough eugenic breeding we might be able to become Elves again. Elves are idealized white people after all.
>Actual historic Germanic Pagans regarded Elves as their Ancestors.
explain gandalfr (magical staff-wielding elf), vindalfr (wind elf), and alfr (elf) being listed as famous names of dwarves in voluspa
I think Elves were generally regarded as just a stand-in for all manners of magical creatures. But my point is that the Pagans used the word Elf explicitly for their own buried Ancestors.
>But my point is that the Pagans used the word Elf explicitly for their own buried Ancestors.
you say that, but out of all the several germanic heroes in the poetic edda, the only character who gets referred to as an elf is a finn.
that might be, but they still called their own buried ancestors elves
that's something you won't escape with referencing other instances of elves
>but they still called their own buried ancestors elves
where? What text are you getting this from? I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong, I'm saying I've never seen this usage in the poetic edda, or other places you'd expect to see it, like in the saga of hervor and heithrek where hervor literally goes to the howe where her ancestors are buried and talks to them
>germanic subhumans were screaming about their ancesors in mud huts while the meds create western civilization
The "meds" didn't create western civilization. Aryans did. Aryans are a warrior-race and the ancestors of every single european culture. Germanics, Celts, Latins, Greeks and Slavs are all Aryans. They all started out as barbarians. But the Aryans, who took over Persia, India, the Middle East, Anatolia or Italy of course either created civilization or took it over from the people there.
So Romans and Germans came from the same root and have no reason to feel jealous of each other. Germans managed to take over the Western Half of the Roman Empire after all, when it became degenerate and mixed their aryan core out of existence and became the new nobility. Knights, Kings, guess what they are. They are all without exception ancestors of the "barbaric" Germans, who invaded Rome. There is an unbroken line.
I am on my laptop, so I don't have the bookmarks about Paganism I have on my pc. IIRC Survive the Jive first brought my attention to this.
>IIRC Survive the Jive first brought my attention to this.
yeesh. I tried to watch one of his videos but had to turn it off when he said that the gods made the mead of poetry. Be careful with youtube gurus, because I've found these idiots often don't know what they're talking about.
Turkoid browncel "med" seethe incoming.
>WE WUZ PAJEETS AND SHIT
Embarrassing. Not a surprise considering Germans and every single European country has larped as Romans. Even stole the swastika
We are literally related people though. Our gods are the same. Our languages have the same root.
>schizo babble pseudohistory from mein kampf
fascism is so delusional
Not anymore delusional than what's written in the torah.
WIR WAR ÄLFS
Romans worshipped the stars while Germanics conquered them. It's pretty clear which one of these two is superior.
How long is too long?
MORE
The ears are there so the person consuming the media can immediately tell they are elves
that's it
otherwise it's just person who lives a really long time or forever, there's no way to tell that by just looking at someone.
Thoughts on gnomes?
i love them so much, vicious little mystical buttholes, always smarter than thou
i just cant seem to ever play them myself for some reason. maybe im just not worthy and i'm aware of it
well they're gnot gnelves, and they're gnot gnoblins, what else is there to say?
Delete this post. Close your browser. Reflect on what you wrote.
love gnomes
wish there were more gnomepilled games out there
dude, seriously. i started sleeping while wearing an eye mask and i have to put my hair over my ears -- which i never do -- and they immediately get cold because the hair isn't there to keep my ears warm
Better hearing. Try pinching the top of your ears pulling them backwards.
Everyone's talking about Elf ears, when the real discussion should be Green Orcs of Pig Orcs.
whichever is drawn cuter at that moment, of course.
actually, it's green orcs. I like the idea that orcs are a perversion of normalcy, so they pervert the generic colors assigned to mammals.
I'm serious about the coomer answer though.
real orcs has nothing to do with pigs and japs are moronic for thinking they do
Real Orcs were just another name for Goblins invented by Tolkein until Warhammer completely changed them
Do what?
No orc is a word roughly synonymous with demon that the Anglo-Saxons famously used to describe the Normans.
Japs got pig orcs from early DnD, that's where they got dog kobolds from too
You can't blame the japs on that, since they just copied original DnD.
Porcs if they're properly boar-like but it's a rarity so usually Green. On average Porcs just seem like a gag villain or a fantasy ugly bastard for porn.
I just played this on this exact picture a couple weeks ago.
I need a time machine calibrated to when it finishes.
i wonder what was the first game to do this
Porcs
British football hooligans
Being sensually licked by white male humans.
Elves are basically monsters. Never got why they are depicted so often as beautiful humans.
Because they're supposed to be beautiful monsters still.
They're basically beautiful human versions of the greys
Which is why the hyperborean schizo bullshit exists
>Elves are basically monsters.
they can be I guess if you're writing an edgelord fantasy universe
>Never got why they are depicted so often as beautiful humans.
Because Tolkien more or less created elves, and he decided that they were beautiful humans.
>Tolkien
>More or less
>Created elves
Ignorant moron, the norse came up with them.
"elf" in norse mythology is either being used as a synonym for dwarf, or for god, except for one instance where its used to refer to a finn. Tolkien 100% created elves as a distinct "race" unto themselves.
Wrong, elves were a race in norse mythology and were considered beautiful, magical and all the shit Tolkien portrayed them as, and most importantly, distinct from dwarves. The man was obsessed with mythology and wanted the english to have their own, so he ripped off norse mythology, particularly when it came to elves.
>Wrong, elves were a race in norse mythology and were considered beautiful, magical and all the shit Tolkien portrayed them as, and most importantly, distinct from dwarves.
post one source from the poetic edda for this claim.
Don't have to, that's how they came to be seen centuries before tolkien was even born. He didn't invent elves, "more or less" or otherwise.
>that's how they came to be seen centuries before tolkien was even born.
by who?
People in general, they'd blame their misfortunes and luck on elves secretly using their magic powers to curse/bless them. Particularly in Scotland.
>Scotland
UGH... I know, I know! The scottish aren't people.
But they're people.
so your evidence that tolkien elves actually predate tolkien is that scots used the term the way we use "boogeyman" (which is also the same way that the norse used it)?
>So your evidence that elves predate Tolkien is evidence that elves predate Tolkien?
Yes.
>>So your evidence that elves predate Tolkien is evidence that elves predate Tolkien?
your anecdote only proves that tolkien didn't invent the word elf, which was never in contention in the first place. What's in contention is whether there is a concept of a discrete elven race that predates tolkien, which you haven't provided any evidence for (because it doesn't exist)
I'm not providing evidence for you because you can look that shit up yourself, it's not my fault you're completely unread on the matter and it's not my responsibility to expend time and effort to give you an education, apart from informing you that you're wrong and should read up on shit before talking as if you know anything. It's not wrong to be unknowledgeable, Anon, no one starts out knowing everything about a thing, but you do have to put in the work to educate yourself. Tolkien didn't invent elves, he didn't invent them being magical and beautiful, he didn't invent them being a distinct race from men, all of that predates him and had been an evolving idea for centuries in many european cultures. The only thing he really did was build up a culture and functional language for his version of elves, which is still a phenomenal achievement.
>all of that predates him and had been an evolving idea for centuries in many european cultures.
how hard can it be to give me one source for this claim then?
How hard is it to tab out and use google? Apparently harder than constantly posting "Source? Source? Proofs? Source? Proofs?" Go read Black person, earn that knowledge for once in your life.
>Go read Black person, earn that knowledge for once in your life.
I've read the poetic edda front to back, and I've also read several icelandic sagas. There is never any indication in these that elves are a discrete race unto themselves. You're insisting they are, though, so I'm asking where you're getting this idea from, because its obviously not part of norse canon.
>"Excuse me ideological opponent, would you mind taking the time to support my point for me?"
This has never been convincing and it isn't here either
It's not even ideological, it's a factual point, elves as Tolkien portrayed them predated him, and he'd be the first to admit it if he were still around.
ok dude
This muttoid seriously thinks Tolkien invented elves
Not him bue did. Mythological elves have just about zero to do with the modern fantasy elves conceived by Tolkien. They were invisible fairy creatures living in the grass.
Another, different anon:
As someone who has genuine education in folkloristics and religious studies, you all need to fricking stop pretending any single one of you has any clue what you are talking about.
This fricking discussion is beyond embarassing. Why the frick do you all insist on talking about subjects none of you have even the most remote education about?
>Makes himself look like a fricking fool saying nothing instead of definitively ending the argument with his education
>definitively ending the argument with his education
The definitive ending to this discussion is that this subject is far more complicated that you will even begin understanding you fricking moron.
But just for illustration. Within germanic-language folkloristic sources, the term elf is repeatedly used to describe beings of following forms:
A tiny humanoid beings with insectoid features, associated with pure or clean natural environment (forests, parks etc...) and usually very hedonistic, sensual inclinations.
A race of underground dwelling beings (originally usually similar to humans in composition, later being associated with smaller and stout figures) associated with mountains and their natural wealth (gems, metals etc...)
A malevolent night-time associated with sleep-related pathologies - beings that feed on human dreams, causing nightmares, literally sitting on human chests causing shortness of breath during night.
A solitary wild-life female creatues known for kindnapping children.
Literally every possible variety of household spirit, from the prankster archetype to the protector one.
A humans that have been cursed with invisibility (hidden folk).
A divine beings of pure light, associated with with celestial realms and formative processes of ontogenesis.
And literally about 200 other different mythological archetypes that I can't be bothered to list anymore.
YOU HAVE NO FRICKING CLUE HOW COMPLICATED THE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN MYTHOLOGICAL ARCHETYPES AND THE FRICKING WORDS TO LABEL THEM THEMSELVES ACTUALLY ARE.
Complete butchering of both the translation and the further implications. "the More beautiful than sun" actually can be also translated more accurately as "brighter than sun". Meaning these could be - and in some interpretations literally are - described as beings of pure light. The same text also postulates another race: Dark one, consuming dirt and being based on a maggot archetype. They are also called elves in that same text.
I'm sorry, everything you posted was gold and I should take it more seriously, however...
>Cursed
>With invisibility
Excuse me?
>Excuse me?
Look up the concept "Hidden People" - made particularly well known through Islandic folkloristic - often known as Huldufólk. Authors like Árnason should be your first port of call, and if you want more academic perspective, his dozens and dozens of commentators.
My personal islandic version of their origin stories are one in which God tells Adam and Eve that he is going to visit them, to see how they are doing after being kicked out of Heaven.
Eve tries to clean up their home and wash her kids as to not look incompetent, but she does not manage to wash all of them in time, so she hides the dirty ones to not embarass them.
When the God visits, he asks if the children he sees are all of their kids, and Eve lies that yes, those are all of them.
So God punishes them for lying my making all the kids she hid forever invisible.
Or even funnier version: Eve tells Adam that she has a headache and won't have sex with him one day. So Adam goes to the forest, and helps himself, squirting the stuff into a ditch.
The semen still creates people, but those people are invisible.
Those are just annecdotes (all from Árnason I believe), but I just love them so I thought I'd share. Obviously - these origin tales are later-date than the concept of hidden folk, a result of an older mythological archetype being "married" with new Christian beliefs overlapping them.
And yes - I can't remember any examples outside of Iceland, but you'll have to believe me, those exists outside of it - even northern germany, and yes, the word "elf" is used.
And another small fact: Even Tolkien isn't consistent in his image of elves. The ones in Hobbit are vastly different from the ones in Silmarilion. You can see how he started with the model most popular in anglo-saxon pop-culture of that era, the "puk" model, the one you see in say, Midsummer's Night Dream - and then gradually drifted away from it in later works.
It would seem that elf is like an umbrella term for non-human beings in general in norse myth than a descriptor for any specific non-human. Later on, during the period when christians were writing norse fanfictions, they started trying to codify them as their own thing with their translation work, which is how we progressed to the modern depiction of elves, which ended up being heavily influenced by Tolkien's work solidifying it in the public consciousness. If I recall, what we'd consider elf-like beings were at one point being called dwarves, or some earlier root word in old german that doesn't come to mind immediately.
>So God punishes them for lying my making all the kids she hid forever invisible.
Holy fricking based.
>It would seem that elf is like an umbrella term for non-human beings in general in norse myth than a descriptor for any specific non-human.
Unfortunately, even that explanation is misleadingly reductive.
The reality is that reality does not actually respect our systems. It's a term that meant vastly different things for vastly different concepts, though there are certain "focal points" that are slightly more prominent than others. It's not an "umbrella" term, it's that folklore does whatever it fricking wants and does not gives a shit about symmetries and classical definitions we happen to crave.
There are terms, and there are archetypes. Terms travel and jump from archetype to archetype locally, and archetypes themselves are fluid and in state of constant transformation. It's a system that is incredibly difficult to wrap your head around, and that is why I take issue with people who pretend they understand it.
Wikipedia? Seriously? THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
At least fricking google "etymology" with it you absolute clown, you'd at least find this thing:
https://www.etymonline.com/word/elf
Or better yet, actually open a fricking book for ONCE in your life.
You should listen to your own advice.
>"one of a race of powerful supernatural beings in Germanic folklore," Old English elf (Mercian, Kentish), ælf (Northumbrian), ylfe (plural, West Saxon) "sprite, fairy, goblin, incubus," from Proto-Germanic *albiz (source also of Old Saxon alf, Old Norse alfr, German alp "evil spirit, goblin, incubus"), origin unknown; according to Watkins, possibly from PIE *albho- "white."
>German alp "evil spirit, goblin, incubus"), origin unknown
ORIGIN:
UNKNOWN.
Now I can safely say: You straight up lied about reading Edda. Either of them. Or anything, ever. Explains why you failed to correctly parse 2 paragraphs of text, or why you seem to be completely oblivious to the existence svartálfar/dökkálfar in the SAME FRICKING TEXT YOU BROUGH UP.
The prosaic edda specifically talks about Ljósálfar (you don't need to be a old norse to identify ljós with the same root as illuminos, and dokk with the same root as dark, and both having the root alfar - one of the older version of "elf".
What the frick is your diagnosis, this goes beyond garden variety stupidity.
Seethe and cope all you want, but I have provided multiple sources and direct quotes from the Edda, but it's never enough.
You cucks are in every thread about elves and always repeat some bullshit lies
>uhmmm sweaty, but akshually elves never existed until Marvel invented them and also...they were always BLACK though
Not the anon you're debating with, but why do you bring up the Edda so much?
Not only wasn't it the first place were elves show up, but it was also written by a christian.
I wasn't the one who brought it up the first time and I'm only using it to refute the moronic claim that Tolkien invented elves.
Oh, that is fair then. But I don't think either
or
is debating that Tolkien invented them, but rather refuting the claim that Elf means "White being".
NTA but the prose and poetic edda are the basis for the vast majority of our knowledge of Norse mythology and it's relevant to his argument that Tolkienesque elves predate Tolkein
>Not the anon you're debating with, but why do you bring up the Edda so much?
He found that one citation, that is literally all that he has to base everything in his claim on. He does not know what it means - he just found that line of norse and some lazy, wrong translation - he based his belief on that PURE TWO FRICKING LINES OF TEXT HE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND - and because he is a narcissitic, delusional psychopath, he just assumed that is all he'll ever know and that he is unquestionably right about everything.
>Seethe and cope all you want, but I have provided multiple sources and direct quotes from the Edda, but it's never enough.
Kid, you literally cited a text that states: "There were LIGHT elves, and then there were DARK ELVES
Ljósálfar heita, en Dökkálfar búa niðri.
And when I pointed out that the Ljosáfar can (or should) be more correctly translated as "bright" or "shinning" than bea
Ljósálfar - literally "bright elves" and Dokkafar literally "DARK ELVES".
You simply, objectively CANNOT argue that the word "elf" in this context already means "light" so there is no need or logic in clarifying it - when the fricking CITATION YOU PROVIDED literally talks about "light and dark elves".
What the frick is wrong with you? How fricking broken are you? You have provided single citation exclusively, and it PROVES YOU WRONG.
ON TOP OF THEN CITING MY SOURCE THAT ALSO OBJECTIVELY PROVES YOU WRONG.
"ORIGIN UNKNOWN, POSSIBLY PIE FOR "WHITE" is literally the opposite of what you said.
er Ljósálfar heita, en Dökkálfar búa niðri í jörðu
is LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU SAID.
How fricking broken, how completely disfunctional as human being do you have to be to continue claiming that you are right?
TWO SOURCES CITED BY YOU EXPLITICLTY PROVE YOU WRONG.
Or do you deny Ljósálfar means "light elves" and Dökkálfar "dark elves"?!
Do deny that the words "origin unknown" mean "origin isn't agreed upon"?!
All evidence leads to the same result, elf means white. Historians agree and even today, in most Germanic languages(specifically Scandinavia and German speaking countries) the word elf is synonymous with white. Example: ivory is called "elven legs" those countries, because they're long and white.
So far, I have seen zero evidence that elf means anything other than white and I don't understand why this makes you seethe so uncontrollably. You'd probably be happier if you read African folklore instead.
>All evidence leads to the same result, elf means white
Again. You are actually, medically mentally ill.
Genuinely severaly mentally ill, to a point where you objectively are a threat to your surroundings.
All evidence explicitly proves that claim wrong. The sources you cited explicitly prove that term wrong.
I asked you two simple questions, you piece of shit.
Or do you deny Ljósálfar means "light elves" and Dökkálfar "dark elves"?!
Do deny that the words "origin unknown" mean "origin isn't agreed upon"?!
These are yes or no questions.
So anwswer them.
Okay, Anon. Elves were actually nappy headed, pitch black Blacks. Happy now?
>Okay, Anon. Elves were actually nappy headed, pitch black Blacks. Happy now?
So ultimately, this was all about you being so deeply insecure about your race that you lied about this to somehow, in your completely broken NPC mind, validate yourself for being white?
I stand by my point. You are profoundly mentally ill and an actual threat to yourself, and your surroundings.
And here comes the armchair psychoanalysis. Elf means white and no amount dilating is going to change this.
It's not armchair psychology to state that person that continuously lies in face of absolutely undeniable evidence of his own lies is actually seriously mentally ill. If you cannot admit your lies when there is absolutely objective evidence of it directly presented to you, it means that you are not actually acknowledging reality as reality, that you literally do not know where you are, or what and why you are saying, and/or that you cannot process that other people are as real as you are. That is a fact.
It is not armchair psychology to conclude that when eventually breaking, your next response is to start screeching incoherently about Black folk that part of your functionally, OBJECTIVELY BROKEN mental state is a complete and uncontrollable obsession with black people and race in general.
And that makes you literally unfit to exist in civic society, as your perception of reality cannot be aligned with that of real humans, nor can you be expected to behave in predictable and socially acceptable fashion.
These claims are as obvious and undeniable as the evidence of your previous previous lies. And let me assure you - it's a miracle you got away for this long. They will come for you - the only question is if they'll lock you up before you harm someone, or before.
calm down dude
Anon, pointing out that the word elf doesn't mean white, does not mean we all think they're Black folk.
It just means that the word elf doesn't mean white.
>Translating ben part of elfenben as legs, and not bones
Come one anon, stop being moronic.
Also, the elfen part comes form elephas, as in elephant.
"origin unknown". According to (one specific author), "POSSIBLY from PIE -albho".
How do you frick this up?
>Complete butchering of both translation and the further implications
False. The word "elf" already means white/white being and "brighter than the sun" in this context refers to them being beautiful. Also, stop moving the goalpost. The original claim was that elves did not exist before Tolkien or that Tolkiens elves have nothing in common with elves from Germanic folklore, and that claim is FALSE so frick off and die.
>The word "elf" already means white/white being and "brighter than the sun" in this context refers to them being beautiful.
That is hilariously wrong, and your own source which speaks of dark elves is a pretty good proof of that.
>Also, stop moving the goalpost.
I'm not moving anything you pathetic moron, My claim was simple and remains very clear:
You do not have ANY clue what you are talking about, and you need to stop talking about it.
I have not moved that goal, I stand by it, and I've just proven it. Now frick off you autistic child, adults are speaking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elf
>The word elf is found throughout the Germanic languages and seems originally to have meant 'white being'.
>„Sá er einn staðr þar, er kallaðr er Álfheimr. Þar byggvir fólk þat, er Ljósálfar heita, en Dökkálfar búa niðri í jörðu, ok eru þeir ólíkir þeim sýnum ok miklu ólíkari reyndum. Ljósálfar eru fegri en sól sýnum, en Dökkálfar eru svartari en bik.“
Literally copied from the Edda. The (light) elves are a folk/race from elfheim,more beautiful than the sun. So, they have the same name as Tolkiens elves, they're pale/bright, they're a distinct race and they're very beautiful. That's four things they have in common so the claim that elves never existed before Tolkien or that Tolkiens elves are not the same elves as from folklore is a flat out lie.
I came here to post this. much like goblin, elf has a lot of loose association with any number of human like magical folk.
There's really no real answer apart from elves having sharper, more defined features than humans in general, including their ears. What a lot of visual content fails to portray equally is that they should have sharper jaws and more prominent cheekbones as well, elves are pretty much supposed to be angular in a "pleasing" way, but it always looks bad when drawn, so they just stick with the ears slender body.
Elves are for enslavement and breeding.
for me to turn them into a necklace
I don't know. I don't care. Elf women are hot. I wanna frick them.
simple as
Have you heard the story of the Aristocrats and the Pineapples? that's human nature for ya
I always figured cause they typically live in forests and shit the larger ears were better suited to sensing sounds from a wider variety of angles
SEX WITH ELVES !
*lves are for flaying
Elves are for protecting!
your ears keep growing as you age. An elf's long ears betray their age
Trust elves.
Love elves.
Marry elves.
Have sex with elves.
Have children with elves.
Encourage everyone around you to do the same.
Let your bloodline be overtaken by elven genes.
>pointed ears typed this post
I WILL KEEP MY BLOODLINE PURE
I WILL MARRY IN MY OWN RACE AND FATHER HUMAN CHILDREN
I WILL KEEP MY FAMILY MEMBER FROM STRAYING FROM THE TRUE PATH
I WILL DIE FOR HUMANITY
I WILL EXTERMINATE ALL OTHER RACES FOR HUMANITY
>Implying elf genes beat human genes
Half elves don't get elven immortality in most fantasy, which is a core part of their heritage.
Even a drop of human impurity can ruin the delicate and pure balance that results in elven immortality. Humans should be honored that elves are willing to mate with them at all.
Point being that breeding with elves just results in more human-likes, and not more elves. I always thought it was odd that settings with immortal elves in them weren't already overrun with the buggers since they never die from natural causes. They always meme that they die in battle a lot or just don't breed as often and that's why there isn't a breedable elf for every square meter of space.
>I always thought it was odd that settings with immortal elves in them weren't already overrun with the buggers since they never die from natural causes.
Just make them naturally far less fertile than every other race. Also throw on the common trope where they also take far longer to reach maturity in comparison to every other race, so not only is it difficult to get pregnant but you're gonna be raising your kid for decades upon decades before they're ready to leave the nest. Elves should be quality, not quantity. Which is why elven mates are so coveted.
Alas, if only elves could combine their natural superiority with the fast reproducing nature of humans, they would be unstoppable.
oni > elf
>Your elvish childhood friend will still be a e-girl in your lifetime
Kino. Also correction needed.
We do a little bit of trolling.
>Be short lived passionate species
>Make arrogant immortal elf fall in love with you
>Perish to human mortality
>Refuse to elaborate further
This is what happened in LOTR when Aragorn dies.
Arwen died not long after, relatively speaking, she fricked off to the woods and perished amongst the fading trees, just as daddy said she would.
>Thinking that dying will free you from her grasp.
Not so fast wretchs.
>Become a fiery, undead, bara behemoth
Honestly not so bad a fate, but sex is probably out of the question I hope.
if the ears are knives the lose their lives
eastern civilization is older than western kiddie shit by millennia. westerners were too busy wrestling in a puddle of their own liquified shit while china was creating empires and prospering like nobodies business.
>china was creating empires and prospering like nobodies business
Good spot for rubbing and light, tender biting
Good hearing. They are live in woods.
How does this make you feel? Will you be nice to elves now?
Frick off with the AI art already
t. starving artist
If a long or bignose makes you greedy and deceptive like a Goblin/Dwarf
And a big mouth makes you Saurons speaker
Flat nose makes you a violent orc
Short legs make you a hobbit aka a thief or druggie
I'm guessing Elves with long ears act same way as a long nose doee but for the mind. Manipulative,arrogant,intelligent but also stingy as hell with sharing knowledge.
So what's the race with very short or flat ears?
Those things exist just to disgust me. How can humanity come up with such ugly shit?
wrefwf
to ruin cute women with ugly prosthetic ears that are less functional than proper ears
elves and humans cannot coexist together.
Is this the same guy that did the "Girl calls the guy a cuck because she tricked him into knocking her up and marrying her"?
Yes
they kept getting raped by orcs so they evolved to keep an ear out for them. now they do it willingly.
i like it when a game has not-elves.
like jak and daxter. little better designed than the average elf design, but still basically just an elf.
>pretty humans with pointy-ears
>good at combat and magic
>can master anything soon
>long or inmortal lifespans
>"my unique weakness is i focus too much on things haha"
Elves looks like a nerd making a donutsteal race.
They generally suffer from ennui from their long lives as well, and need fresh experiences, or to travel alongside one who isn't long lived, to keep them from becoming despondent and all the issues that come with that when you're immortal and have demi-god like powers. Arrogance, too, is a pretty common theme with them.
So, rich-boy problems.
Pretty much, rape correction by mortals needed
what jobs does an education in folklore get you?
Archaeology adjacent stuff, I guess.
professional Ganker effortposter
Same stuff a social studies, except more applicable, and with less made up stuff involved.
>what jobs does an education in folklore get you?
Academia almost entirely. Though there is a lot of of interesting overlaps with with fields like archeology, in some isolated cases cooperation between folkloristics and molecular biologists have yielded some really great results.
With that said, you don't usually go to study folkloristics specifically, it's just one form of specific interest which you reach while studying a broader discipline.
Social Anthropology, Religious Studies, Literary Studies or even General Linguistics or Filology are usually the are from which folklorists are "recruited".
On a related note, what is the biological purpose of horns on all the recent depictions of elves that have horns/antlers?
>implying those aren't succubi larping as elves
Fey creatures always had horns.
Fey > angels and demons.
In the case of Lorwyn/Shadowmoor, it's because they're based on deer. It's the reason they also have slender cloven hoofs for feet.
What exactly is the purpose pf blacks? They are just humans but worse. Why do I have to keep seeing them in pretty much any fantasy setting?
I wish there were more games that let me play as cool elf dudes.
>cool
>efl dudes
I want to play as a cool elf guy and do cool elf things. Is that really too much to ask?
>cool
>elf guy
better hearing
they give you more balance so you can see that the world is actually flat
in Zelda pointy ears allow you to hear and send psychic messages as well as hear the voice of hylia. its how Zelda talks to link from afar.
Erogeneous zones.
>10 hours ago
Did Noldorgay finally off himself?
long noses were already taken
Sociological reasons. The same reason this bird dabs. To get laid and pass on their genes.
thanks for ruining the elf thread anons
really appreciate it
>Open elf thread
>It's a bunch of schizos talking about racism and human culture
It's always morally correct to be racist to elves, especially sexually
You won't be on this high horse when the same elf breeds 3 generations of your family and puts pointy ears on your grandchildren
Wait, but that's incest