Meet you Match, no other update can come close to the amount of damage it did, the only possible upside anybody can say that came out of that shitshow was forever discrediting listening to compgays and even then you still have morons insisting compgays did nothing wrong
[...]
Community server holocaust to support a strictly inferior casual matchmaking system.
Pre MYM there were dozens of GOOD community servers with chill communities, creative maps and game modes, and games that went on forever until you started to see the same pub regulars again and again and formed friendships and rivalries.
Among other things, the quickplay version of tf2 followed the same server format, supporting auto balance, team switching, spectate, and ability to hop in and hop out of games.
Not only is that all gone in casual, you have to wait 150 seconds for a match to start, play 2 or 3 rounds until the server becomes completely empty, and get dropped into a pubstomp or finished game.
There's a good video by a former valve dev regretting the irreversible damage to the soul of tf2
>numerous weapons nerfed into the ground because sweaty tryhards complained about them >entire system was changed to be some modern matchmaking system that is far worse >tried to meme in a comp mode that nobody played because valve soon realized compgays are a very tiny minority (and said compgays didn't even play the mode)
i can at least enjoy my game as
Thank God you tf2 gays lack the basic boomer fps mechanics to play TFC and I don't have to deal with you and can just play like it's 2001 again
because it keeps people who ruin video games (by complaining until they get what they want) away from me.
i can play in community servers, knowing i have the lowest chance possible of running into a person who only listens to himself without trying to understand others, possibly trying to shove their compgay-tier opinions onto others.
usually they are also the same people who bring in the most money, because they invest into screaming about changing parts of the game so that it's ideal in their vision and people who think alike.
as long as they have circlejerk containment channels (casual, competitive, quickplay), i'll be happy with the game, even if they get the developers to mangle its corpse beyond recognition - i know how the game was before the changes, and i know there are more than a handful of people who remember the game for what it was.
eventually someone will yearn for it so much that they'll spearhead themselves to bring it all back or seek others that adapt to what is present, rather than the current active hivemind in tf2 souring the experience for people who are just playing the game.
currently i see more b***hing about how nocrits and nospread should be the standard than pic related sort of content from the current community.
Meet you Match, no other update can come close to the amount of damage it did, the only possible upside anybody can say that came out of that shitshow was forever discrediting listening to compgays and even then you still have morons insisting compgays did nothing wrong
>Meet you Match
This sounds like it was after my time.
Wtf was that?
What'd it do?
Community server holocaust to support a strictly inferior casual matchmaking system.
Pre MYM there were dozens of GOOD community servers with chill communities, creative maps and game modes, and games that went on forever until you started to see the same pub regulars again and again and formed friendships and rivalries.
Among other things, the quickplay version of tf2 followed the same server format, supporting auto balance, team switching, spectate, and ability to hop in and hop out of games.
Not only is that all gone in casual, you have to wait 150 seconds for a match to start, play 2 or 3 rounds until the server becomes completely empty, and get dropped into a pubstomp or finished game.
There's a good video by a former valve dev regretting the irreversible damage to the soul of tf2
fug that made me feel
competitive matchmaking has been a fricking disaster to gaming
games should only have competitive modes through community server equivalents that you actively have to seek out instead of having this desperate scoreprostitute mode built in
Changed Quickplay into Casual.
Casual itself is a dumpsterfire even without bots because you play on a map for only 3 rounds before being booted to a vote menu (no ingame voting). This in turn causes everyone to leave (without bots even) and now you must wait several minutes for people to join your match.
And because that’s the default, new players flock to that shitfest and makes community servers less populated.
>numerous weapons nerfed into the ground because sweaty tryhards complained about them >entire system was changed to be some modern matchmaking system that is far worse >tried to meme in a comp mode that nobody played because valve soon realized compgays are a very tiny minority (and said compgays didn't even play the mode)
>that nobody played because valve soon realized compgays are a very tiny minority
Actually the issue was they were not allowed to remove weapons/maps/players from the game and Valve didn't IMMEDIATELY give them thousands of dollars for their tournaments that no one goes to
>forever discrediting listening to compgays
It still amuses me that even among compgays, they decided to listen to the group of people that refuse to play half the classes in the game and believe that soldier is underpowered because exactly 2 classes are better than it.
Compgay tierlists don’t reflect regular game tierlists because they ban tons of weapons for shitty reasons and have class limits, and also play exclusively 5cp the worst gamemode in the game.
Compgays also hate admitting some shit like Heavy or Engineer actually being good (Both are effectively banned but its totally not because they’re strong or anything).
Imagine actually banning weapons on other classes specifically to nerf another class, limit said class to 1 player, then unironically claim said class is actually bad.
Valve killed TF2 by trying to appeal to comptards and position TF2 as an Overwatch competitor even though competitive TF2 is an extreme minority of the overall playerbase.
Cheaters, aimbots, and trannies are just the maggots feasting on its bloated corpse.
I haven't played this game in a long time. Is the bot problem still as bad as before or has it gotten better or worse? And what about the community? I have seen those memes about how both chuds and trannies play TF2 and that it's a huge war zone between them? This true? Is it really that bad now? Or did trannies take it completely over with them going around saying how Scout is a troony and said trans rights and gays gooning over the characters more than ever before?
It's dead?
Like I know the user server is completely fricked, that was the case 10 years ago when they got Valve to kill off everything but Skial Inceltopia and Furry Pound (actually decent).
But it's dead?
Custom servers are a husk of what they used to be, long gone are the days of exploring the browser and just jumping in a nintendo maps trade server to frick around and explore the place, or trying game modes like warionware or ballon race.
Nowadays its just uncletopia, skial, ugc and the really few deathrun servers, hell official saxton hale killed custom hale servers but tbh those aren't the same as before, its been years since i saw a vs saxton with freak fortress enabled.
Uncletopia is reddit in server form and skial recently disabled objectors and photo badges due issues (aka they shadow banned any kind of lewd problematic content)
Kogasatopia is either dead or full most of the time....god i really want to go back to the pre meet your match days, those were the real golden days of custom servers.
I hate how MYM killed community servers. Like you said, the only ones that have anyone left are shit ones like Uncletopia and Skial. Skial fricking sucked even before MyM anyway.
It's pure nostalgia but I miss hopping into garbage maps and shooting the shit with randoms all night long. No other game scratches the itch TF2 used to scratch when it comes to aimlessly dicking around. Not even TF2 anymore.
Oh man I’m an oldgay now. Used to play this game a ton and trade all night long on those Minecraft servers where you just killed each other endlessly.
One time I even got all the engies together and performed for 4th of July in the nether. Once I hit the “ land of the freeeee and the home… of the… BRAAAAAAVE” part of the song all the engies shot turret rockets and pyros shot flares into the sky. It was so frickin fun.
Sniper. Especially Sniper w/ unlocks >Rifle but better (Bazaar Bargain) >Anti-Spy secondary >Anti-Pyro secondary >Anti-Spy+Anti-Pyro Secondary >Melee that consistantly 1-shots everything but Heavy >Only realistic counter: Self
Also: >Unfun to """play against""" (move spastically at all times, hope the map doesn't have enough good sightlines for players who can kill you from range where they're both effectively invisible & invincible to any class except themself, hope they don't use anti-class unlocks, hope they aren't near ) >Unfun to """play as""" (click on head wow so cool, almost like the Oregon Trail hunting minigame but with less depth&fun), never support the objective >1/3 of any given team, MINIMUM >Artificially inflate the efficacy of Medic's Vacinator, which is cancer, but negates the medic being instakilled upon leaving spawn, making it the only viable Medigun >Artificially inflate the efficacy of non-Gunslinger Engineers, and The Wrangler >Artificially inflate the efficacy of hacking/aimbots >Vocal minority in gameplay discussion
Bri'ish criminals too stupid and dishonest to be bongs are insufferable, wow what a surprise
>Heh I'm soooo coool
Game bad
Cry about me tagging you back to back with the Liberty Launcher and the reserve shooter and killing you instantly and that's "not skilled" because you lost.
valve's neglect and malice. Nothing more, nothing less. If it weren't infested with cheaters and if it had a proper ranked mode I would be playing it right now.
comp and ranked are different but yeah. I played in 2 comp tournaments with randoms and we had a good time even though we got shit on. r1 exit and r2 exit.
highlander was always more interesting to me than regular comp but never got to play one of those.
I returned to tf 2 like half a year ago, and i was kicked before even joining on the server 9/10 times, maybe because of my rank its low, and when i joined 1/10 times i couldn't even use chat couldn't even call medic, and there was like 5 cheaters on my team and enemy team and they were in one discord and kicking everyone they didnt like or killed them. so they kicked me and insulted me on my way getting kicked
Things were mixed since custom weapons, promotional items and lootboxes but everyone ignored these because of the community servers and the fun. Probably went to the worst with Contracts bs, ruining custom weapons and of course with bots.
Valve. And Youtubers. Youtubers bear some responsibility but it's nowhere close to Valve. Concern trolls are in there too, getting sprays disabled by default because think of the children playing the mature rated video game.
When it went free2play
I got it in the orange box and once it went free2play it became I spent 2 years enjoying default load outs and suddenly all this new shit came out that just fricked with all the great mechanics for microtransactions and vaveBlack folk ate it right up like it wasn't a fricking travesty because hats
Yes. However if you want to use text chat and voice chat, in matchmaking servers only btw, you need to pay up $5 total. Or you can just play on community servers.
it is, but those restrictions got introduced when the bot epidemic started.
it worked for some time, but the bot authors seem to have a budget for this, so that restriction is easily skirted.
Why should i pay 5 Euros to play a bot ridden cheater ridden lootbox simulator?
you don't have to pay. you can enjoy the game as is. you just won't be able to chat and that's entirely up to you at this point.
1 month ago
Anonymous
It’s silly because that was all the fun about tf2. Talking shit in the chat and having fun with everyone on the server. Not even being able to text or voice chat on a computer game is beyond fricking lame and kills the soul of what multiplayer games are all about.
1 month ago
Anonymous
yes
1 month ago
Anonymous
Sad how it's the way it is because people these days are such a needy b***h for safe spaces and circle jerking. There are unironic "think of the children" moralists in a game not even designed for children in the first place. Shit's so damn absurd.
1 month ago
Anonymous
you cant play this game without chat you get accused of cheating and get kicked out of 9/10 lobbies
1 month ago
Anonymous
i see. you can then try joining community servers through the server browser.
sorry that you're experiencing this, but it's out of our control and it's up to valve to do anything about it.
it is, but those restrictions got introduced when the bot epidemic started.
it worked for some time, but the bot authors seem to have a budget for this, so that restriction is easily skirted.
it didn't die. it's simply not promoted by Valve or put into big tournaments even though its a better game than most shit we see in mainstream "e-sports"
The state the game is in now just isnt fun, and it took Hell Divers 2 and Deep Rock for me to finally understand that after 7,000 hours.
Valve keeps adding new maps, hats, and unusual effects every update to give an illusion of content like 20+ maps is going to breathe life into this game.
Last year was the first year i actually didnt even bother coming on for screamfortress, i just logged in to smissmas to get the stocking, ive tried booting it and playing but i just have no interest
Mean while with DRG and hell divers they both are regularly updated, even though DRG is going through a dry spot right now, the devs still make time for holiday updates.
Helldivers is getting new weapons and balance changes every other week
I've forgotten what actual care an attention for a game i love feels like and im not going back
There wasn't even a promise of a Heavy update.
Eric said it was going to be an "update sized update" when he meant >I'm adding a new mode to the base game and more maps than any other update in the game's history
People were just moronic and started frothing at the mouth and assumed it meant 30 new weapons and also anyone that equips the scorch shot will have their dox posted in the center of the screen.
Everything I said is correct.
The post you're referring to said that they'd might both get class updates in the future, it's a nature of the thing. Even excluding the fact that basically EVERYONE FRICKING BAILED because they were sick of people asking for them to ruin more weapons.
Now they just show up when Eric wants to play a game of TF2 to try out the new maps, but don't actually want to contribute in any meaningful way, like testing new weapons or anything.
Valve getting bored of it and having no financial incentive to keep supporting it.
Like, they totally could have. They've supported Counter-Strike and DOTA both more vigorously and for longer. It has a lasting fanbase over 15 years post launch to the point of even continuing to pick up younger fans. It's crazy, actually.
Like they made shitty decisions like adding the Mann Co. store and matchmaking, but those were things they could've ironed out and fixed if they actually gave enough of a shit to. They just don't. Valve wants to work on hardware and game changing shit- making a videogame isn't enough for them unless it does something seriously fresh, which is why some of the cancelled sequel concepts we've heard of are shit like L4D3 being open world with thousands of zombies active at the same time or HL3 being procgen.
People like to lay shit at the feet of muh compgays or muh botters but Valve is ultimately the only party who could seriously alleviate whatever issues TF2 had or continues to have, and they just don't care that much.
reasons for casual being the worst thing for tf2 has already been explained, joined several random servers for fun 'n shits, it sure was fun altought couldn't find a standard one with just normal/classic map rotation
Most servers don't run map rotations anymore. It's all 24/7 shit with a Vote giving people the pretense that they're not joining a 24/7 server.
And 24/7 servers that are honest.
>join 'fun' gamemode server >there's always a circlejerk of regulars who tryhard like its the olympics
Black person we're playing fricking deathrun stop trying so hard and have some fun once in your life
troony fortress players always complain about try harding in this way. they have yet to realise that they are just less skilled than any other player coming from any other game.
Even with bots the game was mostly fine, however in these past 3 weeks it's been unplayable. I'm not exaggerating, i haven't found a full lobby (usually 5v5 with bots joining later and kicking the players) or one that isn't full of bots in almost a month now. I have no clue what happened, It takes a long ass time to find a game, sometimes the game will stop looking for a match randomly. In my eyes, the game is genuinely dead now aside from comm servers
It's surprising it's still alive with this many players in the first place. The unceasing complaints about it dying seem to do nothing. I think it's because it's a pvp fps that wasn't built to jerk off esports. Instead of having to force teamwork for a result, teamwork results out of the players using their classes naturally.
But yeah, it's downfall mirrors the internet itself. In it's golden age, players who liked the thing for what it is didn't know how good they had it. Then the thing had to be sold to more people, and when everyone and their dog moved in, shit just got bad. Now you've got people high off their farts thinking they're tackling social issues off their youtube channel.
aimbots
because of points in
i can at least enjoy my game as
because it keeps people who ruin video games (by complaining until they get what they want) away from me.
i can play in community servers, knowing i have the lowest chance possible of running into a person who only listens to himself without trying to understand others, possibly trying to shove their compgay-tier opinions onto others.
usually they are also the same people who bring in the most money, because they invest into screaming about changing parts of the game so that it's ideal in their vision and people who think alike.
as long as they have circlejerk containment channels (casual, competitive, quickplay), i'll be happy with the game, even if they get the developers to mangle its corpse beyond recognition - i know how the game was before the changes, and i know there are more than a handful of people who remember the game for what it was.
eventually someone will yearn for it so much that they'll spearhead themselves to bring it all back or seek others that adapt to what is present, rather than the current active hivemind in tf2 souring the experience for people who are just playing the game.
currently i see more b***hing about how nocrits and nospread should be the standard than pic related sort of content from the current community.
#SaveTransFortress2
people growing up
successive generations of new players increasingly obsessed with le wacky hat simulator instead of actually wanting to play the game
Meet you Match, no other update can come close to the amount of damage it did, the only possible upside anybody can say that came out of that shitshow was forever discrediting listening to compgays and even then you still have morons insisting compgays did nothing wrong
>Meet you Match
This sounds like it was after my time.
Wtf was that?
What'd it do?
I also want to know.
THEN REPLY TO HIM NOT ME.
FRICKER.
I also want to know.
Community server holocaust to support a strictly inferior casual matchmaking system.
Pre MYM there were dozens of GOOD community servers with chill communities, creative maps and game modes, and games that went on forever until you started to see the same pub regulars again and again and formed friendships and rivalries.
Among other things, the quickplay version of tf2 followed the same server format, supporting auto balance, team switching, spectate, and ability to hop in and hop out of games.
Not only is that all gone in casual, you have to wait 150 seconds for a match to start, play 2 or 3 rounds until the server becomes completely empty, and get dropped into a pubstomp or finished game.
There's a good video by a former valve dev regretting the irreversible damage to the soul of tf2
>There's a good video by a former valve dev regretting the irreversible damage to the soul of tf2
For the curious
fug that made me feel
competitive matchmaking has been a fricking disaster to gaming
games should only have competitive modes through community server equivalents that you actively have to seek out instead of having this desperate scoreprostitute mode built in
Changed Quickplay into Casual.
Casual itself is a dumpsterfire even without bots because you play on a map for only 3 rounds before being booted to a vote menu (no ingame voting). This in turn causes everyone to leave (without bots even) and now you must wait several minutes for people to join your match.
And because that’s the default, new players flock to that shitfest and makes community servers less populated.
>numerous weapons nerfed into the ground because sweaty tryhards complained about them
>entire system was changed to be some modern matchmaking system that is far worse
>tried to meme in a comp mode that nobody played because valve soon realized compgays are a very tiny minority (and said compgays didn't even play the mode)
>that nobody played because valve soon realized compgays are a very tiny minority
Actually the issue was they were not allowed to remove weapons/maps/players from the game and Valve didn't IMMEDIATELY give them thousands of dollars for their tournaments that no one goes to
It's a long video but worth the watch
No, this one is worth a watch.
>forever discrediting listening to compgays
It still amuses me that even among compgays, they decided to listen to the group of people that refuse to play half the classes in the game and believe that soldier is underpowered because exactly 2 classes are better than it.
Compgay tierlists don’t reflect regular game tierlists because they ban tons of weapons for shitty reasons and have class limits, and also play exclusively 5cp the worst gamemode in the game.
Compgays also hate admitting some shit like Heavy or Engineer actually being good (Both are effectively banned but its totally not because they’re strong or anything).
Imagine actually banning weapons on other classes specifically to nerf another class, limit said class to 1 player, then unironically claim said class is actually bad.
>Pyro is a bad class
>Ban scorch shot
>Heavy is bad class
>Ban Natascha in 6s
>Engineer is bad class
>Ban short circuit
>Ban wrangler in 6s
lol
>no other update can come close to the amount of damage it did
mann-conomy
Not even remotely true in the slightest.
It's an old game of a popular genre.
Valve killed TF2 by trying to appeal to comptards and position TF2 as an Overwatch competitor even though competitive TF2 is an extreme minority of the overall playerbase.
Cheaters, aimbots, and trannies are just the maggots feasting on its bloated corpse.
E-celebs, Valve, compgays, and meet your match. Maybe weapon skins contributed but everything else listed definitely did in some form.
gaben
F2p
Custom weapons and hats, and what was left got killed by bots.
Valve outgrowing the game
Cosmetics are fricking gay.
>join a match
>get insta head shot by 6 bot snipers
I haven't played this game in a long time. Is the bot problem still as bad as before or has it gotten better or worse? And what about the community? I have seen those memes about how both chuds and trannies play TF2 and that it's a huge war zone between them? This true? Is it really that bad now? Or did trannies take it completely over with them going around saying how Scout is a troony and said trans rights and gays gooning over the characters more than ever before?
I don't know about the comp modes but the base game is completely unplayable because of bots
>the base game is completely unplayable because of bots
I wouldn't say that.
Unless maybe I was like
Exclusively queueing for harvest at 3 am
It's dead?
Like I know the user server is completely fricked, that was the case 10 years ago when they got Valve to kill off everything but Skial Inceltopia and Furry Pound (actually decent).
But it's dead?
Custom servers are a husk of what they used to be, long gone are the days of exploring the browser and just jumping in a nintendo maps trade server to frick around and explore the place, or trying game modes like warionware or ballon race.
Nowadays its just uncletopia, skial, ugc and the really few deathrun servers, hell official saxton hale killed custom hale servers but tbh those aren't the same as before, its been years since i saw a vs saxton with freak fortress enabled.
Uncletopia is reddit in server form and skial recently disabled objectors and photo badges due issues (aka they shadow banned any kind of lewd problematic content)
Kogasatopia is either dead or full most of the time....god i really want to go back to the pre meet your match days, those were the real golden days of custom servers.
I hate how MYM killed community servers. Like you said, the only ones that have anyone left are shit ones like Uncletopia and Skial. Skial fricking sucked even before MyM anyway.
It's pure nostalgia but I miss hopping into garbage maps and shooting the shit with randoms all night long. No other game scratches the itch TF2 used to scratch when it comes to aimlessly dicking around. Not even TF2 anymore.
Oh man I’m an oldgay now. Used to play this game a ton and trade all night long on those Minecraft servers where you just killed each other endlessly.
One time I even got all the engies together and performed for 4th of July in the nether. Once I hit the “ land of the freeeee and the home… of the… BRAAAAAAVE” part of the song all the engies shot turret rockets and pyros shot flares into the sky. It was so frickin fun.
Good times
The fanbase.
>Game presents itself as a mature shooter with dark comedy
>The fanbase tries to force wholesomeness to it
>Team Fortress 2
>Mature with a dark sense of humor
Dude the sandwich was like a year after the game came out.
>the """"mature"""" humor in question
Sniper. Especially Sniper w/ unlocks
>Rifle but better (Bazaar Bargain)
>Anti-Spy secondary
>Anti-Pyro secondary
>Anti-Spy+Anti-Pyro Secondary
>Melee that consistantly 1-shots everything but Heavy
>Only realistic counter: Self
Also:
>Unfun to """play against""" (move spastically at all times, hope the map doesn't have enough good sightlines for players who can kill you from range where they're both effectively invisible & invincible to any class except themself, hope they don't use anti-class unlocks, hope they aren't near )
>Unfun to """play as""" (click on head wow so cool, almost like the Oregon Trail hunting minigame but with less depth&fun), never support the objective
>1/3 of any given team, MINIMUM
>Artificially inflate the efficacy of Medic's Vacinator, which is cancer, but negates the medic being instakilled upon leaving spawn, making it the only viable Medigun
>Artificially inflate the efficacy of non-Gunslinger Engineers, and The Wrangler
>Artificially inflate the efficacy of hacking/aimbots
>Vocal minority in gameplay discussion
Bri'ish criminals too stupid and dishonest to be bongs are insufferable, wow what a surprise
Trannies
Thank God you tf2 gays lack the basic boomer fps mechanics to play TFC and I don't have to deal with you and can just play like it's 2001 again
Yeah I don't think anyone is lining up to play
>TF2 but EVERYONE has a fricking grenade launcher with no falloff
>He can't handle grenades
Once again, thank God you're filtered by it
>Heh I'm soooo coool
Game bad
Cry about me tagging you back to back with the Liberty Launcher and the reserve shooter and killing you instantly and that's "not skilled" because you lost.
valve's neglect and malice. Nothing more, nothing less. If it weren't infested with cheaters and if it had a proper ranked mode I would be playing it right now.
>ranked mode
compgay
comp and ranked are different but yeah. I played in 2 comp tournaments with randoms and we had a good time even though we got shit on. r1 exit and r2 exit.
highlander was always more interesting to me than regular comp but never got to play one of those.
MYM update, bots, and cheaters to a lesser degree
I returned to tf 2 like half a year ago, and i was kicked before even joining on the server 9/10 times, maybe because of my rank its low, and when i joined 1/10 times i couldn't even use chat couldn't even call medic, and there was like 5 cheaters on my team and enemy team and they were in one discord and kicking everyone they didnt like or killed them. so they kicked me and insulted me on my way getting kicked
CSGO, which was indirectly responsible for every update between Gun Mettle and Meet Your Match as Valve backported some of its features.
free to play
too many stupid hats and weapons
bots
How can valve release a game without chat in current year?
Things were mixed since custom weapons, promotional items and lootboxes but everyone ignored these because of the community servers and the fun. Probably went to the worst with Contracts bs, ruining custom weapons and of course with bots.
Valve. And Youtubers. Youtubers bear some responsibility but it's nowhere close to Valve. Concern trolls are in there too, getting sprays disabled by default because think of the children playing the mature rated video game.
Sprays were disabled because youtubers didn't want to edit their videos to keep access to children
Sprays were disabled because a troon said bots used sprays to spread child porn wich was false
Then he was outed as a pedo
They were ALREADY disabled for years before that, BECAUSE youtubers complained.
I don't get it, can't you disable sprays in the options?
Yes, it's actually very easy.
They aren't satisfied with easy options.
racists
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Me
When it went free2play
I got it in the orange box and once it went free2play it became I spent 2 years enjoying default load outs and suddenly all this new shit came out that just fricked with all the great mechanics for microtransactions and vaveBlack folk ate it right up like it wasn't a fricking travesty because hats
>This dishonest moron actually wants you to think TF2 became less payable because you could pay a dude $5 for making a hat
Suck Gabe's wiener I don't care the entire effort of getting good at the game was lost
You're fricking moronic
how do i unlock chat in tf2? i always get kicked when someone says im a bot and i cant type in chat
Pay up $5. Courtesy of bots, compgays, and Valve.
Isnt this game free to play?
Yes. However if you want to use text chat and voice chat, in matchmaking servers only btw, you need to pay up $5 total. Or you can just play on community servers.
Why should i pay 5 Euros to play a bot ridden cheater ridden lootbox simulator?
you don't have to pay. you can enjoy the game as is. you just won't be able to chat and that's entirely up to you at this point.
It’s silly because that was all the fun about tf2. Talking shit in the chat and having fun with everyone on the server. Not even being able to text or voice chat on a computer game is beyond fricking lame and kills the soul of what multiplayer games are all about.
yes
Sad how it's the way it is because people these days are such a needy b***h for safe spaces and circle jerking. There are unironic "think of the children" moralists in a game not even designed for children in the first place. Shit's so damn absurd.
you cant play this game without chat you get accused of cheating and get kicked out of 9/10 lobbies
i see. you can then try joining community servers through the server browser.
sorry that you're experiencing this, but it's out of our control and it's up to valve to do anything about it.
You don't. All of it is easily avoidable and you can enjoy the game in any way you want.
it is, but those restrictions got introduced when the bot epidemic started.
it worked for some time, but the bot authors seem to have a budget for this, so that restriction is easily skirted.
No more major updates since 2017
it didn't die. it's simply not promoted by Valve or put into big tournaments even though its a better game than most shit we see in mainstream "e-sports"
trannies
I think i'm ready to put the game to bed
The state the game is in now just isnt fun, and it took Hell Divers 2 and Deep Rock for me to finally understand that after 7,000 hours.
Valve keeps adding new maps, hats, and unusual effects every update to give an illusion of content like 20+ maps is going to breathe life into this game.
Last year was the first year i actually didnt even bother coming on for screamfortress, i just logged in to smissmas to get the stocking, ive tried booting it and playing but i just have no interest
Mean while with DRG and hell divers they both are regularly updated, even though DRG is going through a dry spot right now, the devs still make time for holiday updates.
Helldivers is getting new weapons and balance changes every other week
I've forgotten what actual care an attention for a game i love feels like and im not going back
Both HD2 and DRG are pve focused games while TF2 is mostly pvp. They’re not really comparable.
My point still stands about having a game that people actually care to work on
Though i do wish i had a proper replacment for it
False promise of heavy update made everyone crazy
There wasn't even a promise of a Heavy update.
Eric said it was going to be an "update sized update" when he meant
>I'm adding a new mode to the base game and more maps than any other update in the game's history
People were just moronic and started frothing at the mouth and assumed it meant 30 new weapons and also anyone that equips the scorch shot will have their dox posted in the center of the screen.
good morning newbie!
Everything I said is correct.
The post you're referring to said that they'd might both get class updates in the future, it's a nature of the thing. Even excluding the fact that basically EVERYONE FRICKING BAILED because they were sick of people asking for them to ruin more weapons.
Now they just show up when Eric wants to play a game of TF2 to try out the new maps, but don't actually want to contribute in any meaningful way, like testing new weapons or anything.
Valve getting bored of it and having no financial incentive to keep supporting it.
Like, they totally could have. They've supported Counter-Strike and DOTA both more vigorously and for longer. It has a lasting fanbase over 15 years post launch to the point of even continuing to pick up younger fans. It's crazy, actually.
Like they made shitty decisions like adding the Mann Co. store and matchmaking, but those were things they could've ironed out and fixed if they actually gave enough of a shit to. They just don't. Valve wants to work on hardware and game changing shit- making a videogame isn't enough for them unless it does something seriously fresh, which is why some of the cancelled sequel concepts we've heard of are shit like L4D3 being open world with thousands of zombies active at the same time or HL3 being procgen.
People like to lay shit at the feet of muh compgays or muh botters but Valve is ultimately the only party who could seriously alleviate whatever issues TF2 had or continues to have, and they just don't care that much.
reasons for casual being the worst thing for tf2 has already been explained, joined several random servers for fun 'n shits, it sure was fun altought couldn't find a standard one with just normal/classic map rotation
Most servers don't run map rotations anymore. It's all 24/7 shit with a Vote giving people the pretense that they're not joining a 24/7 server.
And 24/7 servers that are honest.
valve
All the fricking hats and alt weapons.
community
>join 'fun' gamemode server
>there's always a circlejerk of regulars who tryhard like its the olympics
Black person we're playing fricking deathrun stop trying so hard and have some fun once in your life
How do you know they're tryharding? Seems to me like you're so shit that even players having fun seem like tryhards to you.
didnt ask
troony fortress players always complain about try harding in this way. they have yet to realise that they are just less skilled than any other player coming from any other game.
Even with bots the game was mostly fine, however in these past 3 weeks it's been unplayable. I'm not exaggerating, i haven't found a full lobby (usually 5v5 with bots joining later and kicking the players) or one that isn't full of bots in almost a month now. I have no clue what happened, It takes a long ass time to find a game, sometimes the game will stop looking for a match randomly. In my eyes, the game is genuinely dead now aside from comm servers
f2p
Literally the 'updates'. Good games don't need this because players can keep them alive almost forever, unless it's an MMOshit of course.
Any good weird maps to go run around on and explore?
Lack of balancing
Hardcounters do not and have never existed in TF2.
Sorry if that offends you, blizztard.
meat your match. CS:GO. Matchmaking. Esports.
>its... le.... dead!!! stop... playing... it!!!!
No. I still have fun 🙂
It's surprising it's still alive with this many players in the first place. The unceasing complaints about it dying seem to do nothing. I think it's because it's a pvp fps that wasn't built to jerk off esports. Instead of having to force teamwork for a result, teamwork results out of the players using their classes naturally.
But yeah, it's downfall mirrors the internet itself. In it's golden age, players who liked the thing for what it is didn't know how good they had it. Then the thing had to be sold to more people, and when everyone and their dog moved in, shit just got bad. Now you've got people high off their farts thinking they're tackling social issues off their youtube channel.
MYM (2014)