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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't like this art style, it made me truly realise how creepy this game is, frick
    >one of these people fricked buddy since we see her dlc end with her baby
    Frick frick frick

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Austin confirmed Sticky never laid hands on Buddy, and the baby isn’t his. I also highly doubt Rick and Cheeks did anything, and Brad definitely didn’t.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was Big Lincoln

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Normal Brad didn't, but Joy Mutant Brad did.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      But yeah, it does get a lot creepier when you actually realize that Buddy is just a small 11 year old girl that everyone in Olathe wants to rape, or use to repopulate the world.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      theres a old movie about this scenario. where a bunch of guys try to raise a baby. I dont think its that wierd and I think its more you have a rotten mind from years of ROTTMAXXING.

      this is effectively "my dad and uncle with some friends who come over occasionally".

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        They all helped raise Buddy together, since they all lived in the same house. Eventually, Brad kicked them out.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Did you just compare Lisa to Three Men and a Baby?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >BRAINROTMAXXING
        Topkek, so true. Too many people these days poison their minds and bodies causing them to become cynical and depressed and view everything in a negative lense.
        Porn and sugar have been disasters for the human race.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Porn and sugar have been disasters for the human race.
          True but so is browsing this shithole yet here we are.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            We’re all stuck here.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Rick, Sticky and Cheeks cared for her almost if not as much as Brad, they would have never done anything to her, not even consider it, they were probably bigger and more responsible parental figures than Brad half of the time.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Like hell they cared. They wanted to hand her over to Rando to be turned into a breeding sow for the rewards it’d get them, and filled her head with delusions that she needed to save the world by being impregnated. Brad wasn’t the best father, but he loved her more and tried harder for her than those buttholes.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Never forget that Rick is a cuck.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Come to think of it, what happened to his "son" after the Flash? Rick implies something happened to him in an incredibly old gameplay trailer, but that was at a point when the uncles were going to be party members, so that might not be canon anymore.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          The story was almost if not entirely rewritten through development

          Like hell they cared. They wanted to hand her over to Rando to be turned into a breeding sow for the rewards it’d get them, and filled her head with delusions that she needed to save the world by being impregnated. Brad wasn’t the best father, but he loved her more and tried harder for her than those buttholes.

          They grew to care for her as well but also knew how important she was plus Rando was a nice guy, he would have made sure that she had a comfortable non exploitative life and I doubt get right to it

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Rando never said anything about waiting, and their actions ended causing so much death and destruction, not to mention Buddy getting her eye clawed out by Sticky’s scum frick dad. They wanted Buddy to repopulate the world as soon as possible, and they’re pure scum for breaking her out of one cage just to throw her in an infinitely worse one.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Rando can only control the guys he's looking at, they disobey him behind his back any chance they get.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Buddy canonically held a poor guy at knife throat while she rode him

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Buddy canonically had consensual pelvis shattering sex with Rando.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          but whose pelvis was being shattered

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Both of them.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Mutually Assured Destruction

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Rando’s.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was Rando, he's the father

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's wrong with a strong, competent man impregnating a fertile woman?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can't believe that I have to share a board with a fricking moron who can really play a game where an entire world of shirtless men want to fricking rape a little girl- Sometimes with the explicit intention of wanting to fricking maim her- and actually wait until 8 years after the fact to go, "Holy shit, this game where everyone is a fricking rapist is creepy." I want you to take a big step back, then have a nice day.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe the ugly art style just didn’t make him think about it too much.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was brad's baby
      austin said something like,"yeah the worst implication is the correct one"

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        i refuse to believe that since it goes against brad's entire character
        also austin is a fricking moron who made up shit on the fly and somehow managed to put out a good game. death of the author and all that.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          How would it? His arc ended when he became a mutant

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    LISA is a good game and the fanbase is autistic and weird and annoying as frick, especially the fangame people

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was referring more to the family dynamic between Buddy, Brad, and her Uncles.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      As a person that was affiliated with the community and in fact worked on several fangames, this.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is it really that bad? And what did you work on?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Is it really that bad?
          The majority of the community are underage. There are also a fraction of people consisting primary of top content creators from the community that sometimes issues orders to harass specific individuals they don't like.
          >And what did you work on?
          Can't tell, but I contributed some sprites to other people's projects and had my own that was scrapped.

          >I WAS PART OF THE FAN GAMES I WAS PART OF IT OK??????
          you are exactly what i was talking about, have a nice day

          Tabs.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            no idea what that means

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            What the hell are underages doing in a fandom where incestuous child rape is one of the plot points?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              I don't know, but a lot of them were saying shit like "can't work on my fangame right now, busy with school".

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                School can mean college you moron.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                When’s the last time you’ve seen someone refer to college as school, and not just call it college?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Today, about 1.5 hours ago

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I’ve never heard anyone call college school.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but college is a school and so is a university. They're just responsible (or incredibly fricking irresponsible) people school.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus Christ.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I WAS PART OF THE FAN GAMES I WAS PART OF IT OK??????
        you are exactly what i was talking about, have a nice day

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    5 some

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Brad would never.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    So what did the "definitive edition" add exactly...? Just a broken superboss where you """learn""" Lisa's family was fricked up?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Campfire scenes with a bunch of characters

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The characters that he hated and never wanted to be in the game in the first place?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >hated
          >using the credits sequence that’s fricked up and filled with Brad’s schizo thoughts

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not all of the characters are kickstarter backer characters.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >New Painless mode with reduced enemy HP you can "unlock" at any moment by using an item Terry gives you early in the game. Not reversible.
      >New early game area where you find an item manual that explains mechanics and has flavor text about Terry
      >Rebalanced combat and skills
      >Some animated effects redrawn and use new sprites instead of rpgmaker's default graphics
      >Many previously bugged skills like Queen's Extort have been fixed and work properly
      >5 extra characters have Joy addiction, like it was originally intended.
      >TP works a bit differently and characters always start with 10, but you can use booze before a battle to boost the starting amount. There's a new alcohol item that boosts starting TP to 50.
      >Birdie nerfed by increasing Gasoline spit cost to 25 and slightly reducing Oiled Up duration. Oil is still very strong though.
      >Fly's puke nerfed by reducing status chance/amount. Still quite strong.
      >Crisp buffed considerably, more damage and Wet Cutter now inflicts Oiled Up, making him a great alternative to Birdie for oil strategies.
      >Campfire scenes involving your party members for added characterization and lore
      >New joy mutant found after bombing the dojo
      >New joke item that costs 2000 mags to buy
      >New long secret sequence accessible before completing the game, involving Brad/Lisa/Marty lore, a few extra battles and a gruelingly long bossfight with special mechanics.
      >Joyful has new warlord skills for Buddy, unlocked by killing each warlord
      >Secret Joyful sidequest involving finding and placing hidden items in a secret area, gives you a special sequence, an extra hard bossfight and substantial changes in the ending cutscenes.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >cuts monkey noises from the black salvation ranger
        That shit was so funny. What a shame.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why were there two furries running around in Olathe that went by the name Lincoln?

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Which party member is the best?
    https://www.lisatherpg.com/gang.html

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nern, and his new campfire conversation is the best.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        But he hates video games.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          So does everyone else here.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          i also like the fishy

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            He’s cool too.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      nern terry and birdie top tier in every way

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Birdie. Even with the nerfs he’s still amazing.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    She was too much of an edgelord in the sequel it was kind of cringe. And this is coming from someone who loves edgelords like Shadow

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      She’s so edgy that Infinite’s theme is actually fitting for her.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think The Joyful's main issue is that it's a DLC epilogue rather than its own full game. It doesn't have time to flesh out Buddy with a full character arc where we can see her slowly transform from the crying child at the end of The Painful to the drug addicted would-be warlord she is at the end of The Joyful. She just kind of jumps into the deep end of mass murder from the start and stays there.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        DL didn’t even want to make it, but felt like he had to do it because it was a Kickstarter goal. When you don’t have a genuine passion to do something, you end up doing a bad job.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I can see that, but I feel like too much is left open with characters like Buzzo to say that The Painful should have stayed completely standalone

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I understand, but I would’ve preferred Painful being the ending point if it meant no Joyful. The fans could’ve come up with a better sequel.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >The fans could’ve come up with a better sequel.
              I've seen half a dozen solid Lisa fan-projects but I don't think any of them were ever finished

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hopeful got finished. A bunch of others are still in development though, and they’re making more progress than the Monster Update.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >nooooo i need everything explained to meeeee
            I fricking hate you homosexuals. It was a story about a man on his journey to redeem himself. And as such it was complete and didn't need any addendums.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              And Buzzo being some nigh unkillable psychopath obsessed with Brad since long before the White Flash didn't raise a single question in terms of payoff?

              I didn't really care about Yado or his barebones motivation in fricking up the world, but I didn't mind having a bit more explanation of the guy that had been stalking and tormenting Brad for longer than fricking Marty.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's good that the questions were risen. Doesn't mean they needed to be answered. Lisa is good as it is precisely because there's all of this seemingly important larger that the world shit going on, but you play as a man who cares for none of it. Leaving stuff, seemingly important stuff, to one's imagination is quintessential in creating a great work of storytelling. Dumping exposition and spoonfeeding the audience with answers to all the mysteries are signs of a hack.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                There are plenty of things at play in the larger world that Brad doesn't care about because of his personal baggage and motivations that don't tie back to any of it, but Buzzo has been a major part of that baggage ever since he mutilated Dusty.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          There’s also the fact that Joyful was supposed to be a side campaign like RE4’s Separate Ways, and was supposed to focus on what Buddy was doing during Painful. The story ended up changing throughout development to the point where Brad didn’t bite her head off at the end, so he felt like he had to change Joyful into a sequel/epilogue to finish the series, and move on to something else.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            So through development of the whole main game, Buddy was always intended to die at the end. Didn't expect that.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah. It was supposed to end with Buddy hugging Brad, him fully mutating on the spot, and biting her head off. It probably changed really late into development, since the credits still feature TASTE HER and IT’S YOUR FAULT.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I wasn't a huge fan of Joyful but I prefer what we got in terms of The Painful's ending.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                That just sounds like a terrible ending.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                it was probably for the best that didn't happen.

                Joyful wasn't amazing or even great but that would have been an awful ending.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, it just sounds like a genuinely hateful slap in the face of anybody who played up to that point.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    why is this game named after a simpsons character

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because you touch yourself at night.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fun Fact: Percy was Austin’s way of keeping Rick as a party member in the final game, since he has all of Rick’s moves, and he’s a recolor of him. Percy was also intended to be in Fardy’s place, and get raped by tons of men after getting mistaken for Buddy, since he had a fat ass.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What were Brad's canon actions?
    What would be the actions taken in an adaptation (for your viewing pleasure)?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      No arms, Joyless, one nipple, and hug. Brad should try as hard as he can to be a good person, but still fail in the end, and get his hug.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Would things have gone better if Brad just sat down and told his friends about what happened to Lisa, and why he can’t allow the same to happen to Buddy?

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      He was a complete failure of a father, but still better than Marty.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    All LISA The First games are cursed.

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the whole point of the definitive edition is to make a one hour long fight with Marty
    Ok we get it, your girlfriend was abused by her father, can we please get some good fricking content instead of getting this shit hammered into our heads for a decade?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >New Painless mode with reduced enemy HP you can "unlock" at any moment by using an item Terry gives you early in the game. Not reversible.
      >New early game area where you find an item manual that explains mechanics and has flavor text about Terry
      >Rebalanced combat and skills
      >Some animated effects redrawn and use new sprites instead of rpgmaker's default graphics
      >Many previously bugged skills like Queen's Extort have been fixed and work properly
      >5 extra characters have Joy addiction, like it was originally intended.
      >TP works a bit differently and characters always start with 10, but you can use booze before a battle to boost the starting amount. There's a new alcohol item that boosts starting TP to 50.
      >Birdie nerfed by increasing Gasoline spit cost to 25 and slightly reducing Oiled Up duration. Oil is still very strong though.
      >Fly's puke nerfed by reducing status chance/amount. Still quite strong.
      >Crisp buffed considerably, more damage and Wet Cutter now inflicts Oiled Up, making him a great alternative to Birdie for oil strategies.
      >Campfire scenes involving your party members for added characterization and lore
      >New joy mutant found after bombing the dojo
      >New joke item that costs 2000 mags to buy
      >New long secret sequence accessible before completing the game, involving Brad/Lisa/Marty lore, a few extra battles and a gruelingly long bossfight with special mechanics.
      >Joyful has new warlord skills for Buddy, unlocked by killing each warlord
      >Secret Joyful sidequest involving finding and placing hidden items in a secret area, gives you a special sequence, an extra hard bossfight and substantial changes in the ending cutscenes.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      DE also came with a bunch of official translations for Painful and Joyful.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The worst part of DE is it makes it obvious he's completely lost his ambition. Remember when he did an 8ch AMA where he said he was dissatisfied with Painful and expressed wanting to remake it from the ground up into a better game because he thought that was what his fans deserved? That Austin would never have been satisfied calling something like DE "definitive."

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        He really just doesn’t want to make games anymore. His wife was the one who pushed him into contacting Serenity Forge.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >we'll never get the Hotline Miami x Monster Hunter game he described Ninja Tears as

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sad, but true.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe his wife can nag him into getting off his ass and making another game, but it’s clear he has zero passion for it at the moment.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Definitive Edition is bad not just because of the censorship or gameplay changes and story retcons, but because it essentially said "you can't fix the game or we will strike you down".

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only bad thing about DE is Work Harder getting ruined.

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Also,
    >that borderlands Nern monologue
    >coincidentally the first one I've encountered that made me drop this piece if shit remaster before reaching the second crossroad
    God I fricking hate American humour.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      What does Borderlands have to do with anything? Nern was always like that. Are you just coming up with stuff to be upset with?

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    An anon once said that the game is a kind of Truman show and that the world is still normal outside the dome or some shit like that. I don't know why he concluded that.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I also heard it somewhere that the flash could only affect Olathe. Yado himself said that the place was perfect for his experiment because it is basically a place full of nothing but moronic hillbillies.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        We only know about him making Joy. Nothing really points to him being responsible for the Flash, and it seems more supernatural in origin.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          He literally worked for the army that could be capable of developing a biological weapon. Also the dev said that Brad finding Buddy was a part of his grand plan.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            The weapon was Joy.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Joy was a failed battle drug. Have you played the damn game?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. Joy was the weapon he was contracted by the military to make, and it was apart of his plan to take over the world from the beginning. He always knew that it makes you go psychotic and turn into a monster, and the other scientists thought it was a failure because they didn’t know he true plan. He was going to lie about it being a success, get as many soldiers as possible to take it while also giving it to civilians through Joy Boys and drug dealers, and when enough people ended up dying or mutating, he’d use his trumpet to take over. The Flash wasn’t apart of his plan, nor was giving Nancy to Brad. He just found out it was going to happen, and found a way to protect his wife so he could come up with a back up plan, which was to destroy the world by having everyone tearing each other apart over the last girl. Buzzo was the one who came up with the plan to give Nancy to Brad, and Yado accepted because his plan would still go into effect either way.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think that the Flash was caused by Lisa in some capacity, and that Mrs. Yado was spared because she’s really Mrs. Armstrong.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >nor was giving Nancy to Brad
                Stop embarrassing yourself.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dingaling’s Twitter answers shouldn’t be taken as fact. He said Lisa and Buddy were the worst, then said they weren’t.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                He said Buddy was his least favourite character and that's honestly understandable. As for Lisa, when he said she was the worst person it was meant to be a play on the "best girl" meme and since everything in olathe is terrible Lisa would be "worst girl", but people misunderstood the frick out of that.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                He elaborated that he was just being edgy with a lot of his answers back in the day, and what he actually meant was that Lisa and Buddy were the worst written characters, not worst as in a judgment of character.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's strange that even back then he recognized Buddy's writing wasn't the best, yet her new dialogue in DE is arguably worse than base Joyful's.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                As long as Buzzo gets destroyed and humiliated, I’ll accept it.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                M8 it's been almost 9 years, making old games worse to clear plot threads ain't worth it.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                As long as Buzzo finally gets taken down a peg, and it makes every Buzzogay seethe, it’s worth it.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      That theory is based off of Nern's comments about the day/night cycle in Olathe being strange ever since the Flash, plus one of Buzzo's comments that implied there were still women left somewhere. People concluded that Olathe was basically quarantined after being ravaged by Joy, existing in its own little dome, but that the world outside was fine.

      Austin clarified recently that Buzzo was lying about there being women elsewhere, so I don't know if the theory still holds water, though.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        He just said that Buddy was the last woman in Olathe, and didn’t elaborate on what was happening outside of it.

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is now canon.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's always been canon. Those nightmares he had confirmed it.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why is one of them trying to pull his pants down?

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    qrd on this game? everyone is guys but there's one girl? is the porn good?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, but most of it is gay porn.

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Too bad Rando couldn't convince Buddy to just leave Olathe. I know the border is guarded by mutants but they could have tore through them. We already know Yado was looking out for Buddy with Princess and it's not like Buzzo wouldn't step in if they really went that route.
    Why did Rando have to be so bad with his words? Frick sake.
    Cuz even if the other areas are plagued with mutants it's not like they are much worse than the warlords. Most of them aren't even mobile.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Rando isn’t a good or smart person.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, but I wish he was. Some jackass from the Salvation Rangers could get through to Buddy, why can't he?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because Tooley was gay and suicidal.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >being more aggro than Buddy
            Chill out, dude.

            Buddy canonically held a poor guy at knife throat while she rode him

            Lies and also slander.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              The frick do you mean slander I have the scars to prove it right here

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >implying Buddy would let the husband live
                You're deranged.

                How am I more aggro than Buddy?

                Wanting a friend doesn't mean you're a homosexual or suicidal.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Tooley was at the Beehive in Painful as a customer. He’s gay.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                If she wears a dress she's a girl moron, didn't your mom teach you anything??? Anyway, I dunno why you're so hung up on this. All I am saying is that if he could convince Buddy to chill out and maybe consider just making some friends why couldn't Rando? No way Rando is THAT stupid. He was a warlord for Pete's sake.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because Rando wanted to use Buddy repopulate the world, and Buddy decided she didn’t want to be used or controlled by anyone ever again. As for being a Warlord, I’m not even sure how he became one in the first place when he can barely even talk.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Did Rando still want to do that even after Brad? It seemed like he really just wanted to go hide away with Buddy and give her a chance at a life away from the fighting.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Buddy.
                >I know we just met.
                >But, I want peace. I want growth.
                >I'm sick of seeing blood.
                >Do you understand that without women, we humans will all die out?
                >I want to fix this world and only you can do it.
                >But you'll need help.
                >I need you to trust me on this.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Right he does say that towards the start of Joyful but he also says later on he wants her to have a normal childhood. I guess the idea is in a few years it's something he'd broach her about? Again, it would have been nice if he explained it wasn't about controlling her but I guess the idea is she wouldn't have ever bought that? Even with her interaction with Tooley.
                I guess they're both stupid.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Every Armstrong is just an incredible dumbass, and more dense than a black hole,

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's worse than that, since both of them aren't even Armstrong's by blood. Just KNOWING Brad made them worse. Same with Lisa and Buzzo.

                Brad, Lisa, and just about everyone associated with them could’ve done things differently to get a better outcome, but their upbringings resulted in them making terrible choices down the line.

                In fairness Yado guaranteed that Buddy's take-over would fail. If it wasn't for the mutants the warlords were holding back it might not have been total game over.

                shame about what happened to austen

                The internet was a mistake. Maybe if he had someone close to him who could have convinced him to just, stay away, while he processed his dads death. But actively posting about your heavily emotional and confused feelings to a bunch of sadistic strangers was a bad move.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Buddy’s son is probably going to have a terrible life.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Brad, Lisa, and just about everyone associated with them could’ve done things differently to get a better outcome, but their upbringings resulted in them making terrible choices down the line.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              How am I more aggro than Buddy?

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why did Garth and Roger turn against Brad? If the Rando Army got Buddy, and it resulted in more women being born, wouldn’t that be a bad thing for their businesses that exist because there are no women?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone in Olathe suffers from a room temperature IQ.

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The greatest sin of the Definitive Edition was not adding more party members.

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The good ending.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Then Brad would start going nuts because of the Joy, and start killing his army along side the Rando Army.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Gooder Ending

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I restarted the russian roulette shtick multiple times so I could have them all

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I haven't actually played Lisa since Joyful released. It got some update right? Is it worth replaying?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Definite Edition features some new content and balancing changes.

      >New Painless mode with reduced enemy HP you can "unlock" at any moment by using an item Terry gives you early in the game. Not reversible.
      >New early game area where you find an item manual that explains mechanics and has flavor text about Terry
      >Rebalanced combat and skills
      >Some animated effects redrawn and use new sprites instead of rpgmaker's default graphics
      >Many previously bugged skills like Queen's Extort have been fixed and work properly
      >5 extra characters have Joy addiction, like it was originally intended.
      >TP works a bit differently and characters always start with 10, but you can use booze before a battle to boost the starting amount. There's a new alcohol item that boosts starting TP to 50.
      >Birdie nerfed by increasing Gasoline spit cost to 25 and slightly reducing Oiled Up duration. Oil is still very strong though.
      >Fly's puke nerfed by reducing status chance/amount. Still quite strong.
      >Crisp buffed considerably, more damage and Wet Cutter now inflicts Oiled Up, making him a great alternative to Birdie for oil strategies.
      >Campfire scenes involving your party members for added characterization and lore
      >New joy mutant found after bombing the dojo
      >New joke item that costs 2000 mags to buy
      >New long secret sequence accessible before completing the game, involving Brad/Lisa/Marty lore, a few extra battles and a gruelingly long bossfight with special mechanics.
      >Joyful has new warlord skills for Buddy, unlocked by killing each warlord
      >Secret Joyful sidequest involving finding and placing hidden items in a secret area, gives you a special sequence, an extra hard bossfight and substantial changes in the ending cutscenes.

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    shame about what happened to austen

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who the hell is austen?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        my made up internet friend.
        oops

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ligma Balls.

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there any video game character who can outedge Punished Buddy?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      She really isn't THAT edgy. She at least has a reason to be killing people. Plenty of morbid games with far worse characters edge-wise. Fricking Wolf from Darkwood is just flat out disgusting by the end of the game.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not Important

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shadow the Edgehog
      Jeffrey Cuddletrousers

  28. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh Good God.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      That’s fricked up

  29. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What the actual frick was that piece of shit?...

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s Mrs. Armstrong, either supernaturally or metaphorically, watching over Buddy.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The cycle is broken, now true healing can begin.

  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Please feed her.

  31. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    wheres the version where the world is filled with all women and 1 shota

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The story just wouldn’t work if that was the case.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Be the change you want to see anon. Plenty of fanegames but no one has done a rule 63 version of painful/joyful. Been talked about plenty though. Not really sure it's worth it. All you'd really be doing is changing sprites and some dialogue.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think there’d need to be a lot of changes for the story to work, since women are fundamentally different from men, and I can’t see them going after an 11 year old boy who’s balls haven’t even dropped yet.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          The implication is Buddy's ovaries dropped, so why wouldn't Buddies balls have dropped? And again, be the change you want to see. What would you replace the gym, Beehive, and wrestling arena with?

          >All women apocalypse
          >Survivors live for booze, Joy and vibrators
          >Instead of mags being currency, it's batteries

          Shitty romance novels and fujoshit fanart would be currency, cmon now.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Don’t know about the others, but I think an obvious change would be to change the Salvation Rangers into a Sailor Moon parody instead of a Power Rangers parody.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think my version of a gender swapped Lisa that changes things up enough to set it apart from the original, but keeps the most important stuff the same, was a fic called Little Sun. Got cancelled though.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            May I see it?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13357283/1/Little-Sun

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thank you.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Mama Brad finds out the "Women's Hair Club" has the last boy on earth and they're whoring him out
      >Along the way over she keeps hearing how the boy is "Ugly but hung" and "Fricks like an animal"
      >She finally gets to where they're keeping him
      >It's just a donkey in a dark room

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >All women apocalypse
        >Survivors live for booze, Joy and vibrators
        >Instead of mags being currency, it's batteries

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >live footage of MaleBuddy escaping from his mom’s basement

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      A little girl getting threatened with rape by adult men is a nightmare.
      A little boy getting threatened with rape by adult women is a fantasy.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      what if it was all men and 1 shota

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        World dies.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        There were several shotas that Brad set on fire.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Male Buddy at the very least wouldn’t have to worry about going through pregnancy, but that also means he might be the last human alive and be completely alone without a child in Joyful’s ending. He also might not be able to get women pregnant, since he hasn’t gone through puberty yet, and FemOlathe would populated by mostly ugly middle aged hags with no eggs.

  32. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Berny tries to calm down Lisa during a panic attack

  33. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this the correct placement for all the Lisa characters?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Beltboy should be just a bit further right.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why are Tibby Dobbs and Jimmy so close together?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who's on the top left?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lily Velez from House of Velez

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      who's the knight and why does he take an entire row?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Grimm from Black Souls. It’s because a lot of his choices are player dependent.

  34. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I thought Joyful had really fun gameplay. Holding button to sprint and jumps being one tile longer feels really freeing after playing Painful. The difference in combat was also interesting, especially since it has the same base as Painful. A more difficult and skill-based combat gameplay was fun to play, and there was only one optional fight that felt poorly balanced. Joyful did have weaker writing overall however, especially with the secret/bonus content. A lot of that dialogue felt a bit juvenile, over the top, and needs more polishing.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t think anyone here agrees with you on the gameplay.

  35. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What kind of mom will Buddy be like?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      She’s probably going to make a lot of the same mistakes Brad made with her.

  36. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love this game, and I love everyone in this thread that played it.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you!

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      God bless. I hope that Austen has come to terms with the fact that he created masculinity kino

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        He seems to have calmed down from his mental breakdown.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I only played the original Painful and Joyful.

  37. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    This conversation is kino, I like seeing how the party members view Brad's behavior.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like the event with Bo trying to play Henry’s song.

  38. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can’t believe they kept in the fact that you can kill Jim Sterling.

  39. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What’s the best song in the game, and why is it Boy Oh Boy?

  40. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Joyful could've been a prequel where we played as Rando as he rised in ranks as a warlord. We could encounter established characters through out the game and new ones in the form of the bosses from Joyful.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Leaving Painful as a cliffhanger sounds worse to me, and Austin already promised it’d be a campaign about Buddy as the main character.

  41. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      10k?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think Austin even wanted to make Joyful, you can see really see it on how much he reuses sprites and how lazy the writing gets.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        He didn’t want to. I think he’s stated that before. He was more or less forced to make it because it was a backer goal that he didn’t think anyone would reach.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          You can tell the stuff he had planned beforehand and didn't manage to fit in Painful, Terry's backstory, and the shit he came up with for Joyful because of how different their quality is.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            It’s a big shame. Maybe he could’ve delayed it for a year or two, since Joyful came out in less than a year after Painful.

  42. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I sincerely dont care what Austins intended ending is. The joyful doesnt exist and this is the canon ending of the painful. Its the only version of the story thats even remotely compelling by the end
      >abused child turned abuser
      >overbearing overprotective father figure who fricked everything up
      >finally makes the decision to give all of himself to protecting his surrogate daughter and friends
      >always taking the most painful path forward, not by circumstance but by choice, and always moving forward in the ultimate display of the unwavering human spirit
      its not even a happy end, but its heroic and contrasts brilliantly with how shitty the rest of the game wants to be

  43. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why did he cry?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Rage cared about Brad as a friend, like a lot of the earlier party members that Brad gets to join him. He was either playing the heel so Brad wouldn’t hold back, or he was being honest and felt like shit about it.

  44. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Favorite joy mutant? Fangames included.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Beltboy after a fangame gave him a moveset.

      ?t=3714

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cooper, since I like how goofy he looks, and he’s a reference to The Enigma of Amigara Fault.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dance Dance Revolution... Dance Dance Revolution...

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Both versions of Heart.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are you talking about the old sprite?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah. Both the new and old one for different reasons.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            What's your reason for liking the old one? I thought it was universally agreed to be really bad.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              OG Heart feels like it better accomplishes the idea of Hart just because some pitiful freak screaming out for somebody, anybody to just love him.

  45. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >You play as this boomer doomer who's a junkie and gets talked to like a cuck

    Yeah no can't do this. Same shit happened with that commie game that's like a visual novel

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Brad is objectively in the right throughout the game, and Joyful continues to prove him right.

  46. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Realistically, Alex would be dead in less than a second after this.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who would win actually? Assuming they both have endgame stats, and none of Brad's arms are cut off

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Brad easily

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Brad has a lot more going in his favor, Alex wasn't even that good at martial arts in the beginning.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Brad since he's actually trained in a martial arts style compared to Alex who just trained off of one video tape and is slowly remembering how to do that stuff after years

  47. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    ?si=ZSl8KfqWqGvF7Ijq

  48. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love how Shocklord was based on a real WCW wrestler.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same pose and everything

  49. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's amazing just how great Lisa's world is

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a world of men with no purpose just finding ways to pass the time. If it wasn't for all the violence and mutated monsters it would actually be quite comfy.

  50. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
  51. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    BUZZO DID NOTHING WRONG

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      he simped

  52. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    How did Austin (le cuck) create such a compelling vidya gaem and world?
    Genuinely, I don't understand how it was done, nor how it can be replicated.

  53. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
  54. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    So did Buddy frick Joy Brad or something?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, gotta continue the Armstrong way.

  55. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    BIG LINCOLN SENDS YOU TO HELL

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