What went wrong with Red Dead Redemption 2?

What went wrong with Red Dead Redemption 2?

  1. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    the same thing that went wrong with every rockstar game, a cool sandbox wasted on repetitive go here shoot these goombas mission design. at least it had an insult pedestrians button like scarface.

  2. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing. It's an amazing experience

  3. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    not enough wacky silly missions I guess. even though they had you snipe guys from a hot air balloon and escort a guy in drag across town it wasn’t enough

  4. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It couldn't compete with RDR1

  5. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >In before PC Arthur posting.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      WELL MISS GREEMSHAW I DO BELIEVE THAT IF THEM FOLK OUT EAST WANT THERE T'BE A Black WOMAN PRESIDENT TO REPLACE OL' MAN MCKINLEY I SAY HAVE AT IT

  6. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >progressive politics shoehorned in at the expense of settings
    >lazy missions where you do the same shit over and over
    >shitty side activities
    >multiplayer undercooked with awful monetization when it shouldn't exist in a pay to play game to begin with
    >resources wasted on stupid shit like the horse dick over meaningful things like fixing the combat

  7. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    If you don't like RDR2, you just have shit taste.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      RDR1 was the only good game, kys libtard.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        That's a weird way to spell "I have shit taste."

  8. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    For me it was being forced to trust the plan, 2 more weeks, aaaaarthur

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      QRD

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        did you not play the game?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          no, only RD1.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Well it's pretty much that first post I made. Dutch keeps coming up with retard level ideas through the whole game while trusting one of the most betraying looking/sounding character that's been put in media.

  9. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Lack of player input freedom. Both physically and interpretively.

    Second can pass because it's necessary to the plot, first one is damaging to old school players but not movie eaters and casuals.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      you can shoot guns out of people hands and hats of their head, what more do you want?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I’m genuinely curious what you mean by player freedom and what are some examples. I’ve only gone off script and maybe abandoned an NPC, are you talking about not being able to run in guns blazing on a stealth mission or something

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        For the scenario, they had to play hard on the "Arthur been with this gang for a long time" part, because the player takes control in a place where a lot of dynamics are already solidified. The GTA games for example are not so big on this, you start with few solid contacts at the beginning, so the player state of mind is similar to the characters.

        In RDR2, things are a lot more established and been like that for a long time, so they both had to :
        - get the player in line with Arthur mind by being heavy on the camp aspects to make up for the off screen story
        - get the player in line with Arthur so the end payoff of the game works

        I got annoyed by how much the camp and interactions where present compared to other similar games, but the payoff made it worth.

        For the inputs, it's the common complaints. Slowness, inertia, don't go 10 meters too far or the mission is lost, do this THIS WAY AND NO OTHER WAY.

        I still find RDR2 to be an amazing game, but I kept a better memory of RDR1 and the GTA games as a game experience. RDR2 rather hit on a philosophical and "human" level.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          I wonder why there aren't different ways to complete a mission like in gta 4?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Generally speaking, when you take a mission from beginning to end, you can already chose between a bike, a car, or an helicopter. 3 widely different physic vehicles to reach a point compared to less varied horses and wood carts. Also there's pedestrians everywhere, the police is a lot more active everywhere (too much in GTAV sometimes).
            The cities being a lot more furnished with objects and geometry, it adds more variation on the shit that can happen during the mission.
            I was not exactly speaking about "kill this guy with a knife and nothing" else, but how from beginning to end there's more tools and approaches.

            I think RDR2 balances that by having all of the interactivity in side missions and wilderness. But the player has to go for it.
            I don't know if I'm clear enough but to me that's more or less the reasons there's been a lot of backlash to RDR2. Myself for example I did not out of my way to go for the freedom, because I got frustrated by the main missions and it burned me before I could even open myself to the whole game.

            You globally feel less free in RDR2 despite the game being so wide and detailed. They went just a tad overboard by wanting to immerse the player instead of letting him immerse himself. But it's Rockstar, they're not going to fail that bad that quick, so RDR2 is still a beast of a game.

            Sorry if it's a long text.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks for the reply and I think I know what you mean. As someone who adored the games narrative I can agree the clunky and at times janky controls work against the missions linear progression. From your comment about movie eaters you weren’t a fan but I think that’s what made RDR2 so great, going back and perfecting missions and making them cinematic. I’m not a fan of Guarma either

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            *weren’t a fan OF what I think

  10. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >all that crunch to model the horse's balls instead of finishing guarma
    okay

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      imo it shouldn't have even existed, the entire allure of it was that it was a pie-in-the-sky paradise that the gang knew in the back of their heads was never gonna exist. the plot would have been better off if the boat escape didn't actually happen and the crew was busted.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Guarma wasn't Tahiti retard. Guarma was a completely different island, which if anything represented the anti-Tahiti narratively, i.e, the gang thinks they're sailing off to an island paradise, land on a completely different island that's equally lush, and tropical in appearances but instead of being a vacation destination it's a hellish warzone. It's kino.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >It's kino

          you must love shit in your cereal, kiddo

  11. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    why didn’t Arthur just follow the plan

  12. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    what a garbage fucking game, you'd think devs would have figured out better controls in 8 years of development, but they went out of their way to make it all feel like trash.

  13. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why does Rockstar hate Max Payne 3's controls so much? Just copy that game, it's all I ask.

  14. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Specifically with the difference in his face in the two screenshots? Rockstar made that stupid excuse, "Well, you see, the face rigging for Marsten's original face doesn't match the face of the person playing Morgan, so we had to reshape him to Morgan's facial proportions." It's a dumb fucking lazy-ass excuse used by a team that basically admits they don't want to manually tweak the animations to look right, they just want the software to do it all for them. It's the same stupid goddamn excuse Insomniac gave for swapping out Bubniak's face for the far-too-young face used in Spider-Man Remastered and Miles Morales.

  15. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Its the epitome of goyslop.

  16. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Autistic attention to inane details like store catalogues or horse testicle shrinkage but mission structure is walky-talky into hordy-shooty like in every other rockstar open world game.
    The merry band of murderous rapists with no remorse draws the line at saying moron

    The shootouts are absurd where a group of forest bandits outnumbers the population of a nearby town they plunder at least twofold, for all the autistic detail put into gun models, the shooting is a point and click adventure devoid of any tension or realism/authenticity they were going for.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >The merry band of murderous rapists with no remorse draws the line at saying moron
      I remember fags defending a loan shark character because he wasn’t a racist.
      The worst part is that the show isn’t even trying to justify him. His characterization was that he sees everyone as an equal opportunity for extorting money.
      >You torture and kill people? At least you aren’t a racist

  17. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    People who play scruffy cowboy games clearly need more testosterone. Lol. Once you have a test count over 700 those games look gay as fuck

  18. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The decision to sheohorn in modern politics and sensibilities so they could sell it to a wider audience
    If you want the response in an autistically detailed, hour long video:

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