When did you realize the gaming industry was no longer for you anymore?
When did you realize the gaming industry was no longer for you anymore?
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>4 before 3
Worlds End fucking sucks
it is incredibly bad compared to the first two but the sequels are on another level of bad
It had some really cool ideas but the execution was really bad.
Still somehow better than 4 and 5.
I agree with him.
It has some choice individual scenes but it flows together like ass and tries a bit too hard to be funny and it doesn't feel as seamless as 2's balance of jokes and seriousness.
Plebiest pleb of the board
It has good moments but you're right it's like 3 plotlines crashed together.
3 is a boring slog
4 has hot mermaids
4 has Barbossa in the second main seat apart from Jack but showing their chemistry when working against the Spanish. I really enjoyed it, you can tell they worked together really well but Barbossa just has higher ambitions.
Penelope Cruz = PC
Oh. Well, I can't say she was the movie's strong point either admittedly. At least that final Blackbeard scene was cool though.
She thankfully doesn't show up again.
>Penelope fucks up pirates
>Her husband fixes pirates in the next movie
Wasn't Bruckheimer the one who was completely moderate about it?
absolutely no one was moderate, amber told a lie about him and according to johnny on the trial they didn't even try to contact him to know what was going on, he said that somehow the media knew about his demission way before the directors sent him a memo saying that he wasn't in the role anymore.
>he said that somehow the media knew about his demission way before the directors sent him a memo saying that he wasn't in the role anymore.
Totally not the media inventing and forcing the cancel culture for sure...
i did not know there was a fifth
It has Chigurh from No Country For Old Men as the villain, and he's the only entertaining thing about it.
>the only entertaining thing about it.
These movies have always been the based geoffrey rush show.
Also that buck toothed biddy and her titty meat.
F for Jeffrey Barbossa. He died a hero.
>Bardem became a meme
That's the Disney's portrayal of pirates. 5th brought back a less sanitized, cheeky Jack since midway into 2.
>they watched past 2
Woud I like watching pirates of the caribean as a adult? I watched it as a kid and remember it being very funny but fuck all about any character besides Captain Jack Sparrow or the history, just that some characters that I though were friends with jack betray him then they are fine then they betray again
potc 1 is great
The first one is one of the greatest movies of all time.
It is genuinely enjoyable, well-written, and engaging.
Definitely watch it.
I don't recommend any of the sequels, just watch the first one as a stand-alone.
1 and 2 are a must watch.
3 only if you're really curious.
4 if you can't stop watching the horror show.
5 if you're genuinely retarded or want self-induced brain damage.
1 is extremely good
I'd say 1 is absoluteley worth watching while you can decide to watch 2 or 4.
3 unfortunately continues from the massive cliffhanger from 2's ending and they're a package deal but 3 is honestly pretty poor.
All those pirate lord ships and none of them actually end up fighting.
It's a family movie to be enjoyed by all ages, what the fuck are you talking about?
>watched it as a kid
Yeah, I watched it when I was a kid also. It came out when I was 17.
First move is actually fantastic.
The second is not as fanntastic but still enjoyable.
The third has some good highs but overall it's meh.
The rest are dogshit.
>watch potc as a kid
>think it's kinda boring
>watch it as an adult
>fucking love it, definitely up there on my favorite movies
Weird how shit turns out.
1 is great
2 is good
3 is ok
4 is awful
5 is meh
1 = 2 > 3 >>>>>>> 4 = 5
>2 is a must watch
Fucking plebs. 2 is garbage. Only 1 exists.
2 is a great movie despite having a more serious tone than the first movie.
You may personally dislike it but that doesn't invalidate its quality.
Davey Jones is fucking great and his theme, especially the version he plays in the movie on his organ, is easily the top 3 motifs in the franchise.
How the fuck can you dislike Bill Nighy? It's nowhere near as irredeemable as 3.
The tone and and stakes just get so cartoony.
I marathoned them recently (again) and the shit that happens in 2 and onwards is just so silly. And Jack gets flanderized so quickly.
>The tone and and stakes just get so cartoony.
it's a disney movie.
Yeah and the first one is way better when it comes to these things. What is your point? Again I said stop watching after 1. The goofiest thing to happen in 1 is Elizabeth being hurled 20 feet in the air and the camera watching her reaction.
There's literally no reason to hate on 2 other than being le epic contrarian.
Eh, people weren't fans of it back in the day either, I remember a few friends hating it due to how backstabby literally everyone became and the odd pacing, not to mention the cliffhanger.
>how backstabby literally everyone became
I think Will was perfectly justified after meeting his dad again and realizing Jack sold him off. Granted, Jack did go and get some innocent bums to be sold off to Jones, he probably could have gotten one more and trade Will back.
You can't blame Norrington either.
Like I said , I think 2 balanced it better than 3, plus the effects look really good the first time around and is new for the franchise.
Do remind me of your specific gripes with 2 specifically though, I thought 2's introduction to Davey Jones was great, funny accent and quirks and all.
>Do you fear death?
>Then you were a poor captain but a captain nonetheless. Haven't you introduced yourself all these years as CAPTAIN JACK SPARROW?
>99 souls, 3 days-ah
Jack's backstory for the 100 souls is kino.
You know what, yeah. Stranger Tides was actually pretty fun with Jack and Barbossa's history with each other.
Nah, Dead Man's Chest is actually fucking great but At World's End has way too many cut scenes that were important like the one scene with Beckett and Jack that summarized Jack's actions that branded him a pirate to begin with.
5 only exists to be watched to listen to yagg sbarro and the zombie ship, it's not worth watching beyond that.
Which one had the hot Spanish woman and the mermaids? 5?
>Pic contradicts OP's post
1 is borderline perfect, tigh movie. 5 was enjoyable for what it was. 4 fucking sucked.
>5 was enjoyable for what it was. 4 fucking sucked.
I hated seeing Jack so pathetically low and playing 2nd fiddle again to Will and the new girl. It's why I prefer 4 because he at least gets to be himself
Jack is at his best as a supporting character. He's allowed to be weird and occasionally brilliant when he's got more serious characters to bounce off of. He was a delight in the first movie, and great in the second, but the more focus he got the less interesting and charming he became.
And focusing on Barbossa's revenge sideplot was much more interesting to me than the actual Jack wanking in 5 with the constant chase from Salazar and that one good flashback scene. Will's son and Barbossa's daughter were not a fun duo for Jack to be bouncing off from. I don't even fucking remember if Gibbs was around in 5
>with the constant chase from Salazar and that one good flashback scene.
It's funny how that is a rip-off from the first movie lmao
>It's why I prefer 4 because he at least gets to be himself
Too wanky towards it, lacked the soul of the first 3 movies for not having Gore Verbinski and a new cast and that cast was crap.
I'd say secondary as the second guy in the mc cast. Supportive is Norrington tier.
>a new cast and that cast was crap.
I can say the same for 5, but at least Barbossa had a larger role to play in 4.
I can't outside of Ian McShane and Penelope Cruz. PC ruined the movie.
Utterly braindead. The Jack Sparrow movie was trash. The 5th one was a return to form.
>The 5th one was a return to form.
Except that it ruined Jack character making him an idiot. Are you retarded?
Jack was always kind of an idiot. Wanking him off is what made the 4th movie an unbearable cringefest.
>Jack was always kind of an idiot.
No he wasn't
I'm sorry you misunderstood Jack's characterization for three movies and then mistakenly enjoyed the worst film in the series
I liked stranger shores quite a lot actually. It was interesting to have Jack be the full and sole protagonist
2 would be as good as 1 if they cut the cannibal island.
Shut your whoreson mouth
Really can't beat the original trilogy. 4 felt like a straight to DVD movie and 5 tried desperately to revitalize the series only for Depp to get #metoo'd
1 > 2 = 3 >> 5 >>> 4
1 = 2 = 3 > 4 > 5
1 is objectively higher than 2 and 3. You can pair those two together if you don't have a strong preference, but CotBP stood head and shoulders above any of the movies that followed (except in the CGI department).
Naa man, 3 was pretty fucking bad. Big let down from 2, which I felt was actually a really good movie. The only good part of 3 was when they went to get Jack from the afterlife.
I feel like 3 is one of the only finales to a story arc that delivers on the scope it’s trailers promise
>the scope it’s trailers promise
Thematically speaking, yes.
But I fucking wish the other pirate lords actually fought instead of just the Dutchman vs. Black Pearl
why are there no good pirates of the caribbean games?
There almost was one
I haven't played it since close to release but I remember one of the DS Pirates of the Caribbean games being pretty good.
PS2's world's end was a decent budget barebones one. Sucked on gen 7 systems.
meh. in my book ween is a pirate band because bootleg enforcing and the Blarney Stone.
The Bethesda game is supposed to be sort of okay for the time. Pirates in general are a cursed theme though. Movies, games, whatever. We at least have a few good metal bands though.
Unfathomably based Alestorm bro
SotGA = NGBtS >>>> CMR > CotCC = 7Roa7R => BSaM >>> BTT
Can't agree there, while No Grave But the Sea is my favorite of their albums, Back Through Time is a close second.
>SLAP THAT MIDGET WITH AN OAR
>REMOVE HIS LEGS
>WITH A SAW!
I dunno man, while I can get through every single other album just fine, with BTT I'm always skipping ahead. Shipwrecked and yeah Midget Saw are the only good ones there (I'm not counting Terrorsquid since that was released as a single as well).
I think other than Buckfast Powersmash and Scraping the Barrel I like everything on the album, including their cover of Barrett's Privateers. I mean, how could you dislike The Sunk'n Norwegian?
Alright, that ones pretty good too. But come on man "I'M ON A QUEST, A QUEST FOR SHIPS. SAILING'S HOW I GET MY KICKS"
I definitely won't deny that album is awesome as well. I'm partial to 1741, Magnetic North and their cover of Hangover (I won't mention Drink since that is beloved by everyone). I'm not sure that they've ever put out an outright bad album; though Curse of the Crystal Coconut is the one that I skip through the most it still has some amazing tracks. I have actually enjoyed Seventh Rum of a Seventh Son quite a bit, especially as I listen to it more.
Saw them live a few years back. We had a midget in the audience that got up on stage to dance around for midget saw, their drum kit was a fully stocked bar, and by the end of their set the singer was fucking wasted and got a crowed surf to the bar for another drink because he wasn't sure he could walk there himself. Then when sitting around outside afterwards he came out and sat with us on the curb and talked shit like he was always one of us. All in all it was a pretty great night. Also Barbarion were there and they are fucking hilarious
The Monkey Island series is great but after the first hour of the first game it kinda stops being fully centered around pirates, is weird in a charming way. Said that, I feel the whole pirates sub-genre is one of those that is great for all the non-pirate stuff each work includes. Even the first books about pirates say a lot of things that pirates historically never did
It's Disney, even before their recent failings, they never really understood videogames.
When I haven't played AAA slop in a decade
>"not for me" meme
This is a zoomer cope meme that turned into a twitter meme for people to stop calling things "bad". You're opinion is discarded.
Also 1/2 are best.
3 is pretty great, it just drag it self a little too long.
maybe I am biased because I love the ships in the movies and they show up way more in the third movie.
Also, any good pirate game worth playing besides Pirates! ?
davy jones carries that shit HARD, otherwise its a pretty stupid movie
I keep thinking it is then some AA game impresses me enough to wanna play it
We are further from yag barrow posting than yag barrow was from the 4th movie on release.
I like the part where the Spanish Admiral showed up, but forget if it was the 4th or 5th one. The one with the fountain of Youth
>Makes a note of their bravery
>Smashes the macguffin
That's 4. It's still charming in a way that Jack is still characterized as a clever bastard.
Yeah it was the best part, the only dudes with any moral compass
3 also has one of the most spectacular death sequences for one of the more admittedly boring villains.
He did nothing wrong, its just business. The fight between the Black Pearl and The Flying Dutchman was kino too
Really hate how they cut the final scene in 2 where his world map was finished.
Since around 2006 when Microsoft hired every retard celebrity under the sun to promote their games. Which was at the same time the Wii came out and Nintendo called for everyone's grandma to turn to games as well. But officially done, I'd say with MK11, the one fighting game franchise I'd never expect to go full blown feminist.
kind of sad quote but true
there's 10x more people alive now than back in pirate times but from an immortal adventurer pov, the world must be so boring now compared to back then. I'm not even talking about danger and shit, but just the people, culture, way of life etc...
now you can go in the middle of the amazon or of africa, and you'll see the same poor fags wearing some cheap chinese made tshirt and short pants while drinking some garbage soda or beer...
We are in the calm before the space exploration storm, where we will have exponentially more to explore
None of us will be alive for it, but an immortal adventurer will
>We are in the calm before the space exploration storm
are you talking about meeting alien? if there're alien civs nearby then yes things will be cool but if there aren't any then it will be just "exploration" made by big corporations with mostly robots and a few "employees" all living in standardized pods.
>implying we will ever get off this barren rock
They might end up pulling an SMAC by packing the best and brightest into a generational ship. The rest of the plebs back on Earth will go back to monke once the genie gets let out of the bottle.
I genuinely wish I was born 300 years ago
No I don't care if I would of been a shitty peasant working shitty jobs
No I don't care if I would have been conscripted to die in war
No I don't care if I wouldn't have internet or TV would be a net benefit tbh
The future sucks, and I hate it here
technology was a mistake
i'd take the amount of fleeting happiness life could have offered than decades of this sedated hellscape technology offers
Do you think they didn't have technology 300 years ago?
Maybe the problem isn't the modern world. Maybe the problem is you.
the fact that no matter where you are on god's green earth i can get your shit response instantly only reinforces my feelings
Hahahaha bro Just Walk Away From The Screen Like bro Close Your Eyes Haha
>walking away from computer screens in 2023
im sorry im not a pajeet
Comparing the technology of then to now is absolutely disingenuous
>its not technology because it just isn't
You're an idiot and if you were born 300 years ago you'd be blaming the horse plow for all your fucking problems.
Would rather have all my problems caused by a horse plow than international corporations that have pillaged and raped this earth beyond recognition while I'm expected to be sedated by flashing lights on a screen.
Based, don't listen to the literal AIs, likely which are zoomers who can't remember a time before even cell phones.
300 years ago wasn't so bad. 100-200 years ago on the other hand...
When DICE didn't make Bad Company 3 and admitted they don't know why people like Bad Company 2 (Spoiler: Because it's fucking fun, you gigantic retards.).
As soon as developers admitted they were baffled at their successes, I knew the AAA industry was dead and since indies are just pixel-shit: the depression illusion, there's no reason to pay attention to most shit now a days.
The industry isn't for me, but certain games that come out from random places are laser-focused absolutely for me.
Also PotC1 is one of the best movies ever made and the rest are just bad.
5 was the worst shit possible. Not only plot was about strong woman complaining about evil men, what is worse they killed Barbossa.
Playing games after you hit 25 just feels like you are doing something wrong with your life. Every place you go to talk about games is filled with either zoomers or old manchildren. People getting mad and losing their shit because one character is now black or a girl has a menstrual bleeding just make you want to distance yourself from anyone that says they like games. The only place I discuss game anymore is here because I won't be linked to this children hobby anywhere else.
>girl has a menstrual bleeding
Mollyfag sighted, deploying squeeseeking missiles
Who? I was talking about pic related when it first got out.
>le I'm too mature for videogames
People like you unironically ruin video games.
>People like you unironically ruin video games.
By doing what? Not complaining about games I will never play and just playing shit I want to?
November 4, 2010
It was never "for me". I was for it, and now I'm less for it.
Has something changed? There are lots of fun new games for me being made every year. Just don't buy the judeo-corpo DIE agenda goyslop lmao.
Probably after the Hatred shitshtorm. It showed that is no place for provocative edgy kino in this soish world. We've never got spec ops the line or Kayne&Lynch again.
DmC was edgekino.
>don't pay for shit
>wtf why isn't the industry tailored to me???
She is an annoying dumb bitch. So only with her mouth gagged.
When remasters and remakes became the norm
When i spend hours trying to find a good game to play and end up mindlessly browsing Ganker instead.
1 and 2 were the only good Pirates movies.
>2>1>The Lone Ranger>3=5>4
Finally a sane person
I just want Pirates of the Caribbean Online to come back bros...
Why did he do it.
>Youtube had version with his dick for years
>Only censored now exist
>tfw there will be no other jack sparrow movie again cuz woke people and woman that poops on the bed.
I thought depp won that case? She ended up being psycho or something
yes he won, but he said he will never return to the franchise again because the directors backstabbed him, for them, johnny was guilty until proven innocent.
Aw well getting too old for the role anyway
I know WB dropped his ass from Harry Potter as soon as there was rumbles but frankly probably for the better cause he still got paid (lol) and it was a collosal turd . So wins all around for team Johnny
Wait, Johnny was part of Harry Potter?
He was in one of those shitty Fantasic Beasts movies and they recast him.
Fantastic beasts main villain
Oh that explains it. I haven't interacted with that franchise since the end of 7
he played Gringlebong, Dumbledore's gay lover and magic rival who wanted to kill all the muggles in order to stop the Holocaust
>Dumbledore's gay lover
the third movie was doomed and Jhonny dodged a fucking tank round.
definitely for the better, mads was the better pick for the role
He was soo good as Grindelwald.
That's the fun of current era
Even if the claims are baseless and you are ultimately vindicates after a lengthy, expensive court case your career can still be destroyed and the damage irreparable.
Johnny is famous enough to move past it but I feel like they had plans for up to 10 pirate movies and he was on like 20mil a movie so the settlement never pays the full balance.
I thought Johnny Depp made it out of that case the hero?
It's because of Disney. Depp prove himself right, exposed Amber Turd and moved on from PotC after Disney went too pussy about it. Jack Sparrow is Depp and movies won't be able to move on from him.
He nailed it. He deserved that oscar back then.
Depp is a good actor and a cool guy. Shame that bitches like Turd exist, same for cucks like Disney.
Mistakes were made on both sides. Depp abandoned his family, replaced them for Heard, got a weird phase expected from anyone related to Hollywood at some point in their life except the payback came to him hard. Ended up slightly dismembered in a toxic relationship with a borderline psycho lunatic where him, as a man, unexpectedly ended up as the victim and nobody fucking believed him. A tad too big of a payment imo.
So, what's Amber heard up to? Shitting the bed, I guess?
2017. Some things come out that I try but I became ok with gamepass simply because I know none of this stuff is worth “owning” anyway.
Neither spend money on it, you know.
Free 2 Play used to be a hilariously transparent gimmick. Like whats the fucking point of being "free" when you eventually spend more than the price of the average game on having to buy features and content
Now it's the standard for shooters. Nothing about has changed. It's still a scam. People just embrace it now and devs that would have been peddling shovelware just a decade ago are now making bank off the shit.
So I don't know man. I guess from here on out its backlogs and replays for me where the FPS genre is concerned.
Speaking of movie franchises, was Sherlock Holmes 2 with Downey any good?
He's so FUCKING SMART he can slow time and tell what fight moves people are going to do
When after watching E3 and TGS I realised there's not a single announced game I'm excited about, and then it repeated for several years
That was somewhere after 2012-2013, and the fact that E3 is fucking dead now (after going to shit) just confirms that industry no longer cares about people like me (TGS still exist but there's fuckall announced these days)
1 >>>>> 2 >>>>> trash >>>>> 3 = 4, never watched 5
first movie was the only good one
second started out very weird, then was okay in the middle but then went to shit near the end and it was so bad that entirety of third movie was on the same level of bad
fourth movie was boring AND bad, some scenes had no point and were there just so characters could act like retards for no reason and waste screentime (that fucking pseudo-Russian roulette revolver scene lowered my IQ by 10-15 due to how stupid it was)
Titanfall 2. It was the peak example of two things
1) People won't play a game just for fun, they need their entertainment to be a form of work unto itself. It's ironic, but if a game doesn't demand to take as much time as others to grind shit and "progress," then it's harder for them to justify fitting it into their schedule. Any time spent "just" having fun is better spent on a game that's both "fun" AND work
2) What games get played is disproportionately decided not by their own quality or player-driven popularity, but by the words of talking heads. People bought into fads before, and it's not like fads weren't shaped by certain entities and networks before, but now, fads and popularity surrounding games is so routinely settled by e-celebs and the like
Those things have shaped the industry, as publishers cater to those two facets to make their game relevant and lively.
the esport chase really fucked everything up too
>the esport chase
>kills fighting games
Oh absolutely, 100%. One of the most common and moronish complaints surrounding why people don't get into fighting games is some misconstrued idea that they can't enjoy a competitive vidya without some aspiration to be the best of the best, with esport circuits full of veteran players being a heavily cited element to that. It's always the implication they take from ranked too, that it'll feed into some sort of structure competitive element for dosh, eventually. Trying to get the bag has completely warped people's perceptions of playing fighting games, their development, support from the devs, and so on.
Only to result in a playerbase becoming smaller where the same names, it's like they're self predating themselves. And the games become a convoluted mess for the sake of competitive before dumbing them down in order to attract people. All for the lie of balance.
Sad state for such a great genre back then.
Honestly, the esports chase just twists those two facets into singular, throbbing cancer. It is the definition of turning vidya into work, and its landscape is dominated and shaped by e-celebs.
>2) What games get played is disproportionately decided not by their own quality or player-driven popularity, but by the words of talking heads. People bought into fads before, and it's not like fads weren't shaped by certain entities and networks before, but now, fads and popularity surrounding games is so routinely settled by e-celebs and the like
I would argue to the contrary. That's what the industry wants to think, but they have consistently failed to artificially force large numbers of people into games that are bad. The public reacts almost unpredictably. Look at the popularity of Fortnite's Battle Royale mode, that wasn't planned, it just happened. Then the industry continually attempted to push people into similar GAAS titles that actually were planned out to be massive titles, and consistently they fail.
It's really strange how fortnite dethroned pubg for battle royale, I wonder if the bridge moment played a part or was it because of free to play and more kids friendly?
100% this, the biggest example of that for me is biomutant, thq nordic bought almost every major reviewer and streamer to play that game before and during release and no one bought or played that game still.
But what you seem to be wording is more about corpo meddling forcing trends, rather than about e-celebs. You have a point if you want to say that corpos have been unable to use e-celebs as silver bullets, wrangling them through promotions to force the popularity of a certain title, but that doesn't speak to the efficacy of e-celebs as a whole. Not to mention it brings into concern the fact that such things are often limited promotions, and they often do work within the time frame they were paid for.
The artificial use of e-celebs in promotions rarely seems to work unless there is already interest in the game. Meanwhile, when e-celebs aren't being funneled into promotions they are usually just following existing trends that formed naturally. They do act as a massive draw for such a trend and accelerate its growth, but it isn't like TwitchFag2000 is picking a random Steam game and turning it into a massive success overnight. Look at the big wave of FFXIV streaming from a couple of years ago. That was a game that had been growing consistently for years, its primary competitor cut their own dick off, and that accelerated its growth. Then streamers started getting on board, and it accelerated even more. Then Asmongold finally relented and tried it, and it hit critical mass. He didn't start the trend, he just followed it.
I disagree. You're putting it as simply adding gas to the fire, whereas it's easily observable within the fighting game and shooter space that they are undoubtedly tipping the scales of trends, and there's too many times where they most certainty are acting as driving forces akin to "TwitchFag2000." At best and in either case, it's splitting hairs over the exact degree of things: either way is still a disproportionate and distasteful amount of influence, but also I'm right and you're wrong so you're a doodyhead
>You're putting it as simply adding gas to the fire, whereas it's easily observable within the fighting game and shooter space that they are undoubtedly tipping the scales of trends
I'm not going to get into that, as both communities are filled with chuds and other demihumans.
3 still has some kino. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi7-Y2lSou4
>like 13 ships vs several hundreds of ships
>hundreds of ships do nothing and just sail away after one (uno) ship was drowned
you're trying to use "muh logic" to make something sound un-kino.
But that's what makes it kino, you tard.
>it's kino when it's shit!
Fuck this thread. Nobody is even answering OPs question.
>it stopped being educational and aesopian and became subversive
>morons morons morons morons
to answer that question you must have first given up on gaming entirely, in which i'm sure that the vast majority of the people that visits Ganker didn't, so people here are talking why they stopped playing certain kind of games instead.
>in which i'm sure that the vast majority of the people that visits Ganker didn't
Ganker is cope.
I recently rewatched the movies and I used to think 2 was amazing, upon rewatch it is almost entirely filler. Fuck all happens in it.
When it went to shit in 1998.
There's never been more games pertinent to my interests than now
About 2001/2002 when all the normalfags shat everything up.
When DA2 was made and the dev interviews behind it were all talking about shit I disagreed with.
Which was the movie that had Jag Sbarro?
the 5th one.
What I'm getting is that they're all enjoyable and there are just mixed opinions.
Are there any western games where the dialogue isn't cringe inducing. I really hate to use this word but a lot of these western games feel so woke in a way. Like I just want more western games that feel like bioshock and Witcher 3 in their writing
when they started pandering to feminists
>His jannie application got denied and now all he can do is cry