When people say that CRPGs are niche and have no successful future, they mean exactly the game like picrel.

When people say that CRPGs are niche and have no successful future, they mean exactly the game like picrel.
>Clunky UI/UX
>Clunky combat
>Wall of text instead of more elegant writing and cutscenes

No one outside hardcore fans will play it

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have a strange inkling that op thinks a crpg specifically refers to isometric turn based games

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      OP is an autist with some weird fixation on saying owlcat games have walls of text, he makes the exact same complaint in every thread and was outed earlier today because he does the same thing on the steam forums

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >he does the same thing on the steam forums
        lol really? please share

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          [...]

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            what inspires such autism?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        They do though, they couldn't write their way out of a paper bag

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't that basically what they are though? Isometric/top down. And mostly turnbased now a days since nobody has developed a RT system that works well. I know the term is technically Computer Role Playing Game but crpg specifically refers to the top down story heavy games. Otherwise theyre just rpgs.

      Also op is a moron I agree there

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        No. cRPGs are role playing videogames based on turntable rulesets. They're contrasted with pen and paper RPGs, you know, their turntable counterparts.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >turntable rulesets
          why are you pretending thats a real term

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        idk what the other anon is babbling about, but cRPGs are based off of pen and paper RPGs like dungeons and dragon, they derive from that so yeah they are generally top down, since thats how dungeons were laid out often with board games. It has to do with having similar combat rules and stats and stuff though, and definitely requires more choices in what you do. but basically just needs to really derive from those systems.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        No. cRPGs are role playing videogames based on turntable rulesets. They're contrasted with pen and paper RPGs, you know, their turntable counterparts.

        idk what the other anon is babbling about, but cRPGs are based off of pen and paper RPGs like dungeons and dragon, they derive from that so yeah they are generally top down, since thats how dungeons were laid out often with board games. It has to do with having similar combat rules and stats and stuff though, and definitely requires more choices in what you do. but basically just needs to really derive from those systems.

        no, a crpg is literally just a computer role playing game. the first crpg like wizardry and ultima had their own rule sets. games like fallout used the special system not gurps, and yes even games like diablo and arx fatalis are technically crpgs despite having the modern label of arpg attributed to them. combat mechanics and perspective do not define a crpg, the term was initially used to distinguish table top rpgs from computer or even console rpgs that later became labeled as jrpgs and wrpgs.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      So? In 99% they are exactly like that

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    k cool

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, other studious should follow BG3 expanle on how to make actually good, appealing CRPGs.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    They have actually made almost every aspect of this game WORSE than the beta. How do you even do that?

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >No one outside hardcore fans will play it
    That's fine, carving up a niche and satisfying it is a perfectly respectable business practice, not everyone needs to become rockstar games.

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's worse is you're not even reading the original text but google translate

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Abelard, give OP the FULL list of titles this time, to teach this unwashed peon how to read.

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Abelard, take this man to the penis explosion chamber and have his penis exploded immediately

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >No one outside hardcore fans will play it
    finally, a game for me.

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >niche menas no successful future
    you can safely disregard anything brainlets like that say

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    This game has a gigantic amount of trash mobs. It even puts Pillars to shame.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, it's great. especially on unfair

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      To the anon who was asking last thread about the best Psyker staff for Lightning, the best one I've found so far is the Charged Staff in act 1. After that I switched to mainly using Molten Beam to trigger Pain Channelling.

      A soldier Psyker with Pyromancy and Telepathy will clear all of those in 1 turn on max difficulty.

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >No one outside hardcore fans will play it
    Good. this is how you successfully gatekeep your hobby. Those who are interested will get through it. the fly by troons are not welcome

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >No one outside hardcore fans will play it
    Thank god and holy shit, it even has the best cast of characters.

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ok but is it fun?

    >Liked Wasteland 2/3
    >Liked Kingmaker
    >PotR was a bit of a mess especially the war map
    >Tyranny was ok
    >Disliked PoE
    >Liked BG3 a lot

    Will I enjoy this game?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah probably

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Liked Wasteland
      Yeah you'll probably like this.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You will enjoy it. However you won't lose anything if you wait for patches. Companion relationship triggers are broken atm, line of sight needs work and some talents (not to say many) are either not working or working incorrectly.

      Was wasteland 3 good? Better than 2?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Companion relationship triggers are broken atm
        are there any confirmed examples of this other than cassia gaining affection too fast in act 1

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've not seen cassia getting humped yet, but in my coop game, friend (He's the RT) was romancing jae in the first dialogue he had with her on the ship.
          I don't think he'll keep it, but it happened just like that.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Working as intended, and not because Jae is a bawd, but because that's how it works with Owlcat, you flirt and you start the romance
            Cassia is the only bugged one

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cassia is the only companion that matters.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            sure but triggering her first romance step early isn't really a big deal

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              If you care about character development, which I do, it is.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              It borks the entire romance

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                How so?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                It basically advances the romance too fast so you end up missing events in later acts

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I mean like what specifically does it make you miss?
                I'm asking to see if I can just trigger the bugged flags with Toybox.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                That I don't know, I dropped the game until they patch it, and there are no guides or anything about romances yet

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I liked it better than 2

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's not DnD/pathfinder so don't expect any of that shit. none of that translate to rogue trader. harder than wasteland 2/3. it can be pretty fricking hard if you don't know the game but there is journo modes (anything under Daring) the game has very likeable characters and space exploration is fun. the game isn't for everyone though. DnD 5e gays simply can't adjust.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are the stats/system easy to understand at least? Pathfinder feels bloated in terms of how much it offers but it doesn’t have to be as streamlined as 5e. Shadowrun and Wasteland were fine with their own system. PoE felt like a mess though

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's DH, it's easy to understand.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Once you figure out that stat buffs are the stat number divided by 10, yeah. 50 and 55 are pretty much the same.
            Read the tooltips and it's straightforward.

            Any rounding things like 5e stats where odd numbers are worthless and only the highest even number counts?

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              The only number that matters outside of skills is the stat number divided by 10 and rounded down, so odd numbers don't matter any more than even numbers do for anything except skill checks and defenses.
              In most cases, 50-59 are all the same +5.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Once you figure out that stat buffs are the stat number divided by 10, yeah. 50 and 55 are pretty much the same.
          Read the tooltips and it's straightforward.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Liked Wasteland 2/3
      my homie

      You will enjoy it. However you won't lose anything if you wait for patches. Companion relationship triggers are broken atm, line of sight needs work and some talents (not to say many) are either not working or working incorrectly.

      Was wasteland 3 good? Better than 2?

      >Was wasteland 3 good
      Yes, I got it just to keep me busy until RT came out and I was pleasantly surprised

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        is it better than 2? i liked 2 but it became a little hard to care about what was going on after a while

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>Wall of text instead of more elegant writing and cutscenes
    the writing is actually quite elegant, which is why it's so long.

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Commissar or Noble for my RT Officer? the plan is just to sit in the back and buff

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      noble. commissars don't sit in the back

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Commissar personally, but noble is still good too

  17. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    BG3 has spoiled people

  18. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >see people talking about this
    >look up screen grabs
    >ugly as shit, 2012-era-WoW-tier graphics and interface
    Who the frick pays for this?
    It’s one thing to be intentionally low-budget but there isn’t a price floor for not being hideous.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      CRPGs have a minimum IQ requirement that filters out graphicsgays

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      i too was born in 95 and only know BG3

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >unironic graphic homosexualry

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      do you think someone with as little brain power as yourself would ever be able to even grasp playing real dungeons and dragons? are you able to imagine anything?

  19. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sex with Jae

  20. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    PoE was just knockoff D&D, but the emphasis was on pump that Accuracy up because it was the most important stat in the game
    >higher acc upgrades 'glances'(more like MISS) to 'hits'
    >higher acc also upgrades 'hits' to 'critical hits'
    basically if you weren't boosting your thac0 then you were a fumbling shit

  21. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >combat is clunky
    >bad music
    >bad animations
    >buggy
    CRPG friends, I urge you not to buy/play it at this state yet, this is half baked af. Avoid at all costs.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bad music
      The entire OST is on YT do you really think you can get away with lying like this?

      ?si=IT3ImLDvo-UmuKRd&t=3705

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >he thinks this remotely good
        Shit taste detected, owlgay drone opinion discarded

  22. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're that way because they tend to be more expansive than most other genres, and it's a lot of money to voice act and animate that much content.
    Larian is able to do it literally because it has a CEO autistic enough to be willing to put the time, money, and resources to make his own ideal CRPG.

  23. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Non-casuals won't touch it
    Oh I see. Thanks for making it so clear.

  24. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    On Janus and I'm wondering whether I should drop my Unfair run.
    It's not the fact that I can have over 100 agility before accounting for any other dodge buffs and the average enemy will treat that as zero.
    It's not that maxed out parry seems to have the same issue.
    It's not that Marksmen seem to be complete shit unless you have heavy weapons.

    It's that every single basic b***h skill check gets an inherent 20-30 difficulty boost on top of the original difficulty boost just to frustrate me. I mean for fricks sake, this is just petty.

  25. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    wish there was a CRPG maker software using something like GURPS

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      i only tried it once and couldn't figure out how to talk to people, but i remember Arcanum had an online mode, and i'm pretty sure people used that to generate their own stories and maps and things

  26. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    So if Cassia's romance is fricked, but I want to start a romance with my nun, does this mean I have to break up with Cassia so that I can continue with her questline? this is FRICKED

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I want to start a romance with my nun
      Anon...

  27. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  28. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    ramming is kinda buggy
    sometimes the ship won't even be at the correct angle

  29. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    crpgs are crap no matter the form

  30. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    CRPGs are trash because only Fallout style CRPGs are good and barely any are made compared to Act-based Party-based slop like what Owlcat and Larian shit out.

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