Why did arms fail?

It had everything to be the next big hit

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    next big shit more like

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It did fine, selling over a million for a new IP is great, it just didn't do splatoon or MK numbers so the team went back to working on MK. We'll probably get an ARMs 2 on Switch 2 or something.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why was she allowed to fight when she was cheating and using a mech suit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well they let a robot cop with his dog fight so a normal girl using a mech should be fine.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody likes fighting games anymore.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    solved by colyebrass explosions

    no more updates = solved game = dead game

    Ill post this in every Arms thread so the butthurt newfag schizo keeps getting mentally broke by me

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Get better at the game.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh boy, another skintight suit that makes it look like they created a vakuum underneath strong enough that the suit drops into her navel.

    You people know that not even wet swim suits look like that, right? Women don't put them on in a vacuum chamber

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I DON'T CARE!!!!!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >ironycat posting gay
          not him but lel u mad

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a mecha pilot trope, anon. Watch more anime.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't care + Didn't Ask + you're gay

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's done because it looks hot
      there is nothing wrong with that
      deal with it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love me some logic.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Uh, okay, incel freak.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fighting game fans don't buy Nintendo consoles, and Nintendo fans don't know how fighting games work. I saw a lot of people complain that ARMS didn't have any exploration or an adventure mode. That is your audience.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the thing is it tried *too hard* to be "the next big hit" and gain the same success that splatoon did

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I blame the fact that the main 2 character designs, Spring Man and Ribbon Girl, look extremely cheap and unappealing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sold quite well as a launch window game (>2M I think) but was a little too simple beyond the nuance of arm choice and curving punches (the latter being much easier with the more gimmicky motion control). Fun game, great music, excellent character designs, got free updates for a while, just didn't have staying power without a shakeup. The cancelled comic hurts, could've been something interesting.

      They're 8/10 designs in a roster of nonstop 10s but I get your point.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They're 8/10 designs in a roster of nonstop 10s but I get your point.
        You have low standards.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ARMS has far and away one of the best rosters a new IP fighting game has ever had from a design standpoint. I can't think of one I even find mediocre, Ribbon Girl being the worst of the bunch.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        For me, its Max Brass.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Very true, which is why they made the correct choice by having Min Min be in Smash instead.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Arms badly needed a strong single player to learn the ropes, something you could play for hours before getting into the multiplayer.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It didn't "fail" it actually exceeded their expectations and they gave it more content then it would've received otherwise.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It simply doesn't play well.
    The basic concept is that you throw a punch and then that arm is unavailable for the time it takes it to travel back and forth, while this happens you also can't dodge or move well at all.
    This is inherently frustrating, and outside of some speedrunner autismo play, most players experience is that whoever throws the first punch is at a disadvantage.
    I don't know if it's competent at a high level, but in my experience playing it with random people by just giving them a switch controller, the first impression is usually that they feel sludged down and like it's out of their control or don't get it.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Non-standard gameplay for a fighting game made it completely worthless to the average fighting game fan
    Everybody else would simply rather play smash bros

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I CANT WAIT FOR ARMS 2 BROS! ANY DAY NOW..

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    thought they could pull a splatoon again and release half a game and keep it alive with ""free"" updates but really i just made the game die faster

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No Punch Out crossover

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It sold 1 million copies. It didn't flop but it won't be ever getting a sequel.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It looked cringe and the main guy with blue hair looked like a nerd

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It just didn't have the legs.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      First Carlos that made me chuckle.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >locking curving while moving behind motion controls
    >overly simplistic mechanics
    it had next to nothing going for it aside from the neat world and character designs

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      simplistic mechanics

      Other way around you dumbfuck, it's complex as any fighter.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it had next to nothing going for it aside from the neat world and character designs
      and it couldn't even get that right because it's a fighting game but the cast don't even get to talk for themselves. Not even a win quote screen with a text box.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They do actually have vocals and speak during wins and losses. It just so happens that most of the actual written stuff is lore.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Springman saying YAHOO at round's end isn't what I mean. The simple post fight text that has been a part of fighting games since Street Fighter 2. It wouldn't even require voice acting.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    compared to splatoon it lacks fundamental things:
    >fighting game instead of shooter so automatically less appealing
    >its default motion controls go back to the wii era of being a pointless gimmick while splatoon's gyro aiming is a genuinely better option than stick aiming
    >utterly unfun as a party game unlike smash or power stone
    >way too shallow to keep the interest of competitive autists
    >terrible, terrible spectator game, fights are mind numbingly boring to watch
    it's a shame because the presentation was really good, the sort of capoeira boxing with mutant superheroes setup was really unique but it's a nothing game and I hope they don't waste any more time and energy on a sequel

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>its default motion controls go back to the wii era of being a pointless gimmick while splatoon's gyro aiming is a genuinely better option than stick aiming.
      ARMS motion controls are a better option than stick aiming for its mechanics and design as well. Your grabs have a broader span, you have independent control over each ARM, and you can direct each in a different direction in subtle or major ways. I have never had a a failed input, the aim is precise, and the controls don't constitute waggle unless you consider rapid punches when doing a super.
      Also, it isn't shallow. Deceptively simple.
      Also, it's a great party game, and Party Mode is still active to this day.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ARMS motion controls are a better option than stick aiming for its mechanics and design as well.
        this is demonstrably false by the very simple fact the overwhelming majority of the competitive scene used the regular pro controller while it's the opposite in splatoon where all comp players use gyro (yes I've followed the arms competitive scene for a while, give me my time back)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That isn't false, it's the mechanical reality that playing the game makes blatantly evident for the reasons outlined after that quote. It's undeniably better and expands your arsenal. Also, not all competitive Splatoon players use Gyro, despite it being an intuitive and more wieldy option.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            *also, another Motion advantage: independent character movement and ARM movement, although the value is slight when an Arm is out.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Also, not all competitive Splatoon players use Gyro
            it's like 99% of them and none of the top players, the actual best players in the world use stick aiming

            also good job completely ignoring the fact if motion controls were truly the superior form of control then we'd see arms competitive players use them but they don't so I'll accept your concession

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >its like 99% of them and none of the top players, in the world use stick aiming
              Nice claim.
              >the fact if motion controls were truly the superior form of control then we'd see arms competitive players use them
              Bullshit. YOU are ignoring the blatant advantages that are objectively present with Motion controls.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nice claim.
                what? chocopero, the guy who obtained the highest points in ranked in the game's history uses motion, the entire gg boyz team who won the two splatoon E3 world tournaments use gyro, thatsrb2dude, kiver, wadsm all the well known competitive players and youtubers in the west use gyro and insist on the importance of learning it if you want to elevate your gameplay, it's just a fact

                I've never seen the equivalent from competitive arms players and for a simple reason, motion doesn't bring any meaninful advantage to a fight or else you could be sure pega, chateau, gore magala, astroninja etc would all have used them

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Clussy

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get how people are so fucking caustic with this game.

    It's not even something ignored like ever oasis or steam, people literally dogpile on it, and game sold well enough to get more updates than planned.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      to me it's because it demonstrates how frustrating nintendo are

      it's a low content, shallow game with a pointless control scheme that comes from them refusing to let go of their wii era shovelware approach that made them tons of money which forces inputs to be simplistic enough to accomodate them but makes the game less interesting as a result

      an actual competitive fighting game by nintendo's core teams could actually have been very interesting if they nailed it like they did with splatoon but instead we got that bastardized half assed game that does nothing particularly good and is the last significant new IP from EAD we've got in the switch era, just a waste

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >competitive 1v1 but also wagglan
    It was doomed to obscurity from the start

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fail
    It sold 2 million copies, how the fuck is that a failure. Are we going to blame Nintendo or the dumb fans for thinking every new IP they make has to explode like Splatoon?

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They would've needed a splatfest event equivalent and regular costume and weapon drops over time if they wanted to keep it going. Maybe some shitty currency to collect for a token reward with grinding.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >splatfest equivalent
      Party Crash.
      >regular costume and weapon drops over time
      It got new weapons with entirely new characters who have their own costumes.
      >Shitty currency to collect
      It has a currency to use for attempts at the Arms Getter, which allows you the chance to win new ARMS for your selected player character.
      >for a token reward with grinding
      Badges are unlocked for meeting certain milestones and achievements.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Arms was Nintendos Gravity Rush, a game with appealing designs and good characters but ultimately bogged down by awful gameplay

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was a success for a new IP. The devs just prioritized Splatoon and Mario Kart. Expect a more refined Arms 2 on the new Switch.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cause fighting games are extremely niche, outside super smash none of them really sell well

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    outside of fighting games aren't usually known for selling a lot, i think part of the problem was the depth of the game was locked behind some kind of weird gacha minigame.
    having a list of arms to switch and counter an opponent or bring out a unique strategy is fun however it happens way to late into playing through the base at times bare bones game.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >sold well
    >got double the amount of updates it was supposed to
    >got into Smash Bros
    >Nintendo seems to regard it a pretty decent success
    I'm glad they aren't shitting out ARMS games like Splatoon but I'm sure we'll see the series again, I'll never understand why people doompost so hard about it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Then why they cancelled the (already finished) visual novel?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People liked to say it was dead real early despite potentially never actually having played it. Oddly enough, it's still virile now outside of maybe Ranked, and you can get a full Party room pretty often. Indeed, it has a great Friend mechanism where you can join people in your Friend's List off a menu, meaning you can always populate a room if your friends are online.

      I wouldn't say they're shitting out Splatoon, but I can only suppose that 3 came out this gen because the narrative content they wanted to build would not be as well accommodated by DLC (install base limit of Splatoon 2 owners). That, and maybe they want a narrative fresh start next gen.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who's your main? Ribbon Girl jumping is too fun.

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