Why did Lugia get the shaft

Is there a bigger legendary discrepancy than the birds of johto?

Ho-oh is

>mentioned somewhat frequently as a saviour
>looks like a majestic phoenix
>kimono girls dress same Color’s as him
>gets a cool entrance dance with the Kimono girls and descends from the heavens to battle the player
>shiny version uses same Colors as the Japanese phoenix depicted as God
>resurrected some dead dogs showing it’s got cool powers

Meanwhile.. for Luges

>is mentioned once maybe twice in passing vaguely by mid game NPC
>found in some frick-off whirlpool island
>no cool entrance just comes out of the waterfall
>isn’t really related to the major plot in anyway, not lore that directly connects him to johto or even Kanto

Why they do my boy like that?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because Lugia wasn't even planned to exist because some autist wanted to keep the two versions formula. Hopefully, in the next Johto games we will get more insight on Lugia.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Burned tower used to be Lugia's tower

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lugia was added much later into development because it was originally made as a movie-exclusive Pokemon for M02, to rework Johto to hold Lugia in the same level of reverence would delay the game significantly in order to rework the mythos as well as adding unique events surrounding Lugia.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      Lugia was made for the movie, and was added at the last minute because the movie was popular, then used to sell the two versions meme.
      It was never supposed to be on the same level as Ho-Oh, and was never conceived of as its equal.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is this the only game where it’s apparent which legend leans more towards canon?
        Only game I can think of where it’s slightly more biased is BW, because it refers a bit more to N having reshi
        But nowhere this blatant

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Is this the only game where it’s apparent which legend leans more towards canon?
          the frick are you talking about, you can catch both legends regardless of version

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Were it not for the fact that a Silver-caught Ho-Oh is forever fricked out of Sacred Fire, I'd unironically argue Silver is the "true" version because the ever-revered Ho-Oh is subsequently made to be a Level 70 powerhouse, befitting of the legend.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Where did I say you couldn’t muppet?
            I’m saying, Ho-oh feels more canon with all its connections to the kimono girls, talked about in more, it has a saviour prescence etc as opposed to Lugia being somewhat vague and found in a cave , it just feels more like ho oh is the “canon” legend as opposed to Lugia

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Who cares?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >brings up argument
                >comments on thread
                >gets defensive when called out
                Then don’t join the thread? Bye homie

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >no argument
                I accept yours, esl. Peace (thanks for the bump too

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                )

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                More bumps yay
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          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            This guy literally joined the thread to whine about what it’s about then get mad when correct
            I kek

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Get into a thread
            >No idea what anyone is talking about
            >Starts chimpinh out for no reason
            >Leaves
            Based?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's not AS apparent, but gen 3, Ruby makes significantly more sense. Team Magma wanting to make more land by using a volcano's eruption, in the Hoenn "too much water" region makes a modicum of sense, while Team Aqua making a single volcanic caldera lake to expand the ocean is fricking moronic, while the undersea cavern is a much more neutral (It's literally a place where ocean and land are closest together). Team Magma makes more sense as the villainous instigator, since they have a point that is reflected in the world design, while Team Aqua as the instigator is kinda moronic.
          Also, pokemon White makes more sense then Pokemon Black, since Reshiram is the pokemon of ideals, while Zekrom is truth, and N having ideals that are crushed by the truth that these ideals are born from lies makes much more sense than trying to swap the pokemon.
          X and Y's plot is just insane either way, but using Yveltal to kill everything also makes a bit more sense than Xerneas.

          But all these are purely narrative, while gen 2 is the only one to literally shove one of the legends in the corner somewhere, while the other one has a culture built around it.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks for responding like someone with a 3 digit Iq unlike that other anon
            I agree, it’s just never been more blatant than gold/silver

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            On the other side, the actual scenarios and bases in RS make more sense for Aqua.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Gold
          >Ruby
          >Pearl
          >Black
          >Y
          >Sun
          >Sword
          >Violet
          If you pay attention, it's easy to surmise the canon versions.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Black? MOON?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nebby is canonically a cute girl so Moon.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Explain your take on Black

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              White doesn't work because N's goals are ideals. even if HE believes it's the truth, the pokémon of the region outright contradict him.
              >In Unova mythology, Reshiram sided with the older brother who sought the truth. As a result, it firmly believes in truth.
              And if the in-region shitmons understand the symbiosis of the world better than a human who can talk to pokémon, then the Dragon that seeks Absolute Truth would not deign to appear for an idealist.

              Play the game again. Fanart means frick-all and they told people which version was canon trough the story.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Pearl
            Why diamon is canon

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ho-oh is a real pokemon, Lugia is an ugly furbaity abomination made for movie shilling

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    they just wanted to stick up that alcoholic shudo's ass a little further

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lugia got a movie.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lugia got a movie
    Ho-oh got a shitty movie many years later
    Lugia got to be the hero in Zeraora's movie by showing up once

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    From purely in game stuff

    Gold
    Sapphire
    Palkia
    White
    Y
    Moon
    Sword

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      How is palkia more canon

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because I dislike both having the ability to reset the universe where it feels like something more conceivable for the Space deity to have a handle on.

        But no reason other than thar I can think of.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      White doesn't work because N's goals are ideals. even if HE believes it's the truth, the pokémon of the region outright contradict him.
      >In Unova mythology, Reshiram sided with the older brother who sought the truth. As a result, it firmly believes in truth.
      And if the in-region shitmons understand the symbiosis of the world better than a human who can talk to pokémon, then the Dragon that seeks Absolute Truth would not deign to appear for an idealist.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ho-oh was supposed to be gen 2's Mewtwo. IIRC wasn't it originally the first pure flying type before they changed it to part fire?

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a moron who doesn't care enough to look up the Dex entries.

    Is Reshiram Truth or Ideals?
    Because N is definitely the Ideals man.
    That seems straightforward to me.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Resh is truth

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Reshiram is Truth, Zekrom is Ideals.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't Lugia's designer a druggie or something?

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