why is dragons dogma 2 getting so much shit for something all capcom games have (including the original dogma )
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why is dragons dogma 2 getting so much shit for something all capcom games have (including the original dogma )
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>The company should never have to stop being greedy homosexuals because they've always been greedy homosexuals
I bought dragon's dogma and still hate capcom for being massive israelites, hope they crash and burn
this. i hope itsuno stars his own studio.
>i hope japanese Todd Howard stars his own studio.
I hope not. Keep him locked up in Shitcom.
Don't act like you have integrity now.
Hahahahahhahahahhahagaggaga hope they crash and burn, lolololololololol here’s 70 bucks. Game sold millions ‘and millions because of memes and will selll millions more over time. Here’s another 70 bucks to really show how much I hate you, and another 70 for good measure.
I didn't buy it, so it's 70 bucks less then It could be tbh. I'll get it off of a keysite in 6 years when it's like 4 dollars, making sure they won't get a single cent from it.
this tbh couldn't even contain the consoomer paypig in himself
>i bought
>I bought this game at full price
>OH MY GOD WHY THE FRICK DON'T THEY CHANGE THEIR GREEDY CORPORATE BEHAVIOR
Gee anon, I don't know...
>I bought
>hope they crash and burn
Yep, this is your average Ganker IQ.
because dragon's dogma fans have the minimum requirement of a triple digit IQ to flip when they see moronic greedy shit coming from the slanty eyed israelites
so these triple digit DD fans, are they fans of DD1 by any chance or are they "fans"
DD1 launched with timed exclusive Berserk DLC that has never been re-added to the game in any subsequent release. They've been disingenuous from the start. They've been playing emperors new clothes with a greedy, anti-consumer game for a decade. you expect them to grow a moral compass now?
>DD1 launched with timed exclusive >Berserk DLC that has never been re-added to the game in any subsequent release.
This was very obviously a licensing thing. The game files were all still there, a mod with a few lines of code made them all available again
Damn Monster Hunter gays, you going to take this?
the game is balanced around mtx
debunked
>no new game option
>only 2 full character edit items in the game
it sorta is
no fact there is no nee game option is beyond suss
>game balance is about changing your character face and new game option
lmao fricking moron
you can't even buy new game option and you can only buy the character edit once
Tell me you haven’t played the game without explicitly saying you haven’t played the game
there are only 2 books in the game
paying the barber gold only changes face and hair not race gender or build
Art of Metamorphosis restocks every few in-game days
>defending this
>correcting blatantly wrong information
but dont you get more everytime you beat the game once?
the only issues dragons dogma really has are the new game option not being there and optimization
microtransactions are in all Capcom games to catch morons who don't even play video games.
literally nothing in the store is worth the money in any capacity.
Yet HD2 was sucked off and it has worse mtx be those sets are locked behind mtx?
x2 in a vendor that restocks....you troons have them adding x99 to the vendor becuase you need to play dressup like bg3
I've rebunked it, shill.
>debunked
But it’s not even in the slightest. Like actually not even a little bit. If you actually played the game for longer than 20 minutes you would know that. Hell, the mtx’s aren’t even available through the client. Why lie on an anonymous board?
you literally need to buy one of the mtx keys in order to progress the game at 3 points.
What the frick are you on, son? No. No you don’t. How fricking stupid are you?
games forced me to spend an additional $5.56 since I started in order to fulfil a number of quests, 3 of them tied to the main story. Sure some of these items you can find one per playthrough in the wild if you spend a couple $ worth of the premium currency to hire a pawn that MIGHT know where to find one, but that only happens if you luck out and wander near it anyway, like the harpy smoke beacon.
Okay now I’m genuinely confused. I’m about 2/3rds through my first play though and have never encountered a block point where I’m incentivized to purchase mtx to continue. Care to elaborate?
where are you finding enough jail keys
Why the frick do you even need 'enough' jail keys?????
>he didn’t duplicate the gaol keys when ser negger asked for them back
Literally get good you smallbrain moron fricking LMAO, this is what you sissycordtroons think is genuine criticism? Just cause you have a walnut sized brain doesn’t mean the rest of us do
I found multiple harpy snares up by high places and aqueducts, my guy, what are you on about
you are unironically one of the dumbest Black folk alive
fomo homosexuals got filtered by the original so they need any reason to hate on 2 so they made up a bunch of bullshit about p2w mtx
you can buy them from npcs and find them all over the world you bandwagoning moron
dd is easier to pick on than re or mh.
also this. especially for asmongoloid.
i watched the apology video shills keep posting. all he said was that he was wrong about fast travel being paid only but that everything else is still true and he goes as far as floating the idea that capcom forced fast travel in the game to push microtransactions.
You can't buy fast travel
You literally can.
No you can't.
But you can... With a limited in game item that's hard to come buy.
But can luckily just pay real money for more of them at any time. >;)
I am not surprised that dumbfricks who actually liked 'The Simpsons' can't into long term thinking nor cause and affect. Probably thinks nuclear power is bad and actually still watches late night comedy central.
You can't buy ferrystones. Also "just pay real money for more of them at any time" implies you can buy any of these microtransactions more than once, you can't because they're steam dlc.
Don't argue with these morons. They haven't even watched the video, just saw the thumbnail and thought he's apologizing for calling it p2w.
>filtered by the original
>dark arisen integrated of all it, zero mtx, people love and respect it
>instead maintain that integrity at least for DD series, repeat the mtx behaviour as usual
>surprise suprise people get mad plus of other issues
damn, im wondering why......
you're right
>the game is badly imbalanced because of MTX
know what comes with all the fricking walking besides wasting your time? A lot of fighting wolves. Doing main quest 16/16 and casually fricking curbstomping the dragon isn't intentional either. If you had more fast travel crystals you'd finish a main quest run of the game 10 hours sooner and 20 levels lower.
Beating a game fast doesn't mean you experienced the game. DD2 can be completed even if you kill every single NPC you come across.
You can beat the game with the piece of shit weapons and armor you started with as you be line yourself to the end on Griffon back. Alone without a pawn.
Buying all $45 of that MTX grants you no advantage whatsoever.
>it's not short and ultimately trivialized by imbalanced pogression, you just aren't playing the game to lv999 and seeing all 23 enemy types in different places enough
the massive amount of money/consumables not having fast travel requires to do basic map travel has the downstream consequence of flooding you with XP and vocation progression for killing those thousands of goblins and wolves.
Some random gay right now bought all the port and ferry crystals he needs and is playing just intended quest content at intended level instead of killing wolves in the woods for an extra 20 hours.
>In like a year or 4 you'll get that same experience when they end of life model the game with a Dark Arison rerelease
>Some random gay right now bought all the port and ferry crystals he needs and is playing just intended quest content at intended level instead of killing wolves in the woods for an extra 20 hours.
>>In like a year or 4 you'll get that same experience when they end of life model the game with a Dark Arison rerelease
Anon you’re not allowed to point that out or dislike it. Stop being a baby.
>Why lie on an anonymous board
>anonymous board
>anonymous
You can't be this moronic can you?
Can you?
>If you actually played the game for longer than 20 minutes
100% of the people shiting on the game couldn't run it or didn't even buy it
I remember when pol flags where on this board for aprils fools. Ganker is dominated by poor as frick SAs.
why do you think hiromoot cut the website in two?
for advertisers, blue boards are a marketer safe heaven where they can relentlessly shill their game and lie about other games.
Which is why it should be a requirement to complete all your posts with non-corporate agreed words like Black folk, homosexuals, Winnie the Pooh
you don't need to play the game to know the obviously overpowered microtransactions will make the game extremely easy and trivialize the game
you are coping with a variation of 2deep4u
literally buy the deluxe edition be given better weapons homosexual
provide 1 instance when it happens
this tard is also in this thread
you're better off ignoring him because he's just shitposting
Reviewers/journos don't mention any information that consumers want to hear anymore.
So consumers now have to complain really loudly to pick up the slack.
>mtx
Speak English for fricks sake. What does that even mean?
Black person if you don't know what a simple term like MTX is you should go the frick back, really. MTX has been a common term in gaming since the early 2010's.
>"game is balanced around mtx"
>reviewers didn't even have access or know about mtx and still rated it 8/9 out of 10
>trusting reviewers
There is no way this image is not edited
its not you gay, the """MTX""" are just deluxe edition bonuses and not repeatable purchases
>buy deluxe edition
>get 1 extra key in your chest when you start the game
if you buy the deluxe edition, you don't even get the ability to buy the key because you already own the "key" dlc because it's a non-repeatable purchase
No it isn't, you just are actually bad at the game. The mictrotransaction are garbage, but they are made for morons and morons alone, DD2 is far easier than DD1
>The mictrotransaction are garbage, but they are made for morons and morons alone
Thanks for letting me know, I'm not keen on supporting predatory business practices. Even if other people are the intended marks. I'll be sitting this game out.
You haven't played it. You're talking out of your ass.
This. Frick capcom shills. Fricking moronic homosexuals sucking corporate wiener like crazy.
I'd disagree with you, but I can't argue the lack of a New Game option.
people don't want to feel like theyre missing out on big QoL stuff like a extra portcrystal when they already paid $70 for the game
Portcrystals max out at 10. Even if you buy the one (and you can only buy one) from the shop, you still will never have more than 10. It’s beyond pointless and only a fricking moron would buy it.
>https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/59
FRICK CAPCOM
normoids and consolegays absolutely filtered the frick out
you are literally stealing from Capcom
stealing from israelite companies is morally correct
>buy bike
>doesn't come with breaks.
>make my own breaks modification instead of purchasing breaks installation from scummy company that tried to scam me.
not only is it 100% legal. it's a fundamental consumer right.
your property. you can mod it.
Why would anyone buy a bike that breaks out of the shop?
why would people buy a game without proper save file functionality?
or a faulty product that runs at barely half the framerate it should?
why would anyone pay for a game held hostage on a server that they don't never get to own?
people are fricking stupid. that's why consumer laws exist. to stop corporations from praying on stupid people.
consumer laws are quite behind lately and are due for an update.
they wouldn't, they want one that allows them to stop to rest tho
look goy, we've told you many times it's stealing. you signed your rights away in a contract you didn't read.
go and keep giving us money. and remember, there are no do-overs.
Good
ZAZED
>nexus won't delete this but will delete pride flag removers
Imagine Capcom suing Nexus over it.
>bitches about MTX
>decides to make and or download a mod that makes what the MTX could have given you seem like some lint and a paperclip.
For what purpose?
If I bought a single player game I need to be able to change my savefiles however I see fit, not by paying other money to the israelites that made it.
Consolegay? Sensible folks just navigate to the save folder and rename or delete the save.
May you get caught.
May you get caught.
>Install mod to get survival mechanics
>I'm cheating now
???
>install mod to make the game harder because it was balanced for booger eating mouth breathers
>i'm a cheater
Doesn't this invalidate your save or something? Denuvo DRM shit?
No?
The entire thing is completely being blown out of proportion, as is usual whenever Denuvo is involved.
The only "anti-cheat" is to prevent people from uploading pawns with busted stats beyond that you can cheatengine the game as much as you want.
Denuvo also usually doesn't prevent modding, it doesn't prevent the entire game from being tampered with just with startup/verification routines.
Based.
How is giving them $70 shutting them down? Because you're not paying that extra $40?
i dont know cheats just ruin the game for me usually
>modding your games ever
I would rather pay with money then ever go against the developers vision
yeah crapcom has always been shit
good of you to notice
It's only ok if the ONLY way to fix the a broken is by paying real money.
The locked single-player account/save file shit is inexcusable. Everything else can get a pass, but that shit is just disgusting. Sorry. Not even gonna mention the Denuvo bullshit.
Because of the price increase.
it's always been a problem but morons were too happy with their bread and circus to care. Now that games suck and are full of ugly blacks/trannies, they no longer have their bread and circus and are ready to complain about something.
People are dumb im not saying not to get upset about Microtransactions but to take a stand when its DD and you know dam well no one is gonna do this when MH releases is dumb. Also trolls were using this as a talking point to get the game to fail so i dont believe this is organic at all since theres way worse games this kinda energy should have popped up for before.
people are moronic
more news at eleven
lmao homie managed to do something more pathetic than buying microtransactions
Additional new characters are locked behind a paywall. That's a pretty major feature for people who want to start fresh instead of doing NG+.
No they aren't lol, i've started over 3 times since the game came out. Amazing how gullible people are willing to be.
I hate that people are talking about the MTX instead of the dogshite performance.
I'm worried about the next monster hunter because of this now, it's pretty much confirmed to be 30fps + dips on consoles and 60fps with dips on a good GPU if DD2 is anything to go by
because most gays are moronic and dont care about what actually matters
nah I expect it by this point, the natural state of the world is that talking points that are relevant always get psy op'd away
I can't believe how many posts I've seen about this game in the past few months on this board about how they're excited to play this game and only this game
they bought pc parts and everything for it and this is what they were waiting for?
I thought it was going to be some undeniably kino game but it's literally the sloppest of slops
It is a disappointment game but i waited twelve years, i can wait one more for a working expansion. It does feel like a robbery with the $70 price tag tho and as so will feel the expansion which will probably cost $40.
>And that's a good thing.png
Pure homosexualry.
>why are you angry I stole your bike? I steal bikes all the time!
I'm more pissed about how the performance was fricking shit and they absolutely knew it and shipped the game anyway and then had to apologize because people were calling them out on something they more than likely knew they would be called out for. I'm going fricking insane. How the frick is that not the most moronic shit ever on their part?
homie that's almost every pc port nowadays
fricking jedi survivor was way worse than this
at least they ended up fixing it eventually though
>why are microtransactions getting pushback?
why didn't dmcv get pushback
why didn't re4make get pushback
why didn't mosnter hunter rise get pushback
defending what? that's great because you you sleep in your house twice to get more
>good game
>good game
>niche game
I wonder why
>why didn't dmcv get pushback
>why didn't re4make get pushback
>why didn't mosnter hunter rise get pushback
it literally did, it just didn't result in a million negative reviews like dd2 got for some reason
because V is fundamentally fun and feels complete in terms of gameplay
meanwhile DD2 feels barren, empty and somehow clunkier than the first game
you literally get more content by shitposting about DD2 on here than by playing it kek, that's how one dimensional the game is
>because V is fundamentally fun and feels complete in terms of gameplay
(you)
calm down fatty, everyone can smell the 6 hours of internet arguments on you
Thanks for vindicating everyone pointing out the double standard and assuming it's less about the issue stated and more about fanboyism.
I haven't paid for a game in around 16 years, so try again paypiggy
So it's not even about games at all and just shitposting? Got it.
>I haven't played the game
>I'm going to talk about how it plays anyway, though
>I've played the game
>I'm going to waste hours arguing with strangers on Ganker
Uh ohhhhh
content drought, paypiggy?
>meanwhile DD2 feels barren, empty and somehow clunkier than the first game
this
I can't believe they took away skills from each class AND give you 2 less skill slots
the augments are also bland and the pawn customization is worse. you only get to choose from 4 voices, and one of them is a Black person
>it literally did, it just didn't result in a million negative reviews like dd2 got for some reason.
The economy is super awful right now. DD1 started this shit, and it was complained about back then too. It was so long ago I literally forgot and now remembering I actually refused to get the game when it was only out on console over that shit. Not to mention that fans of one game or series doesn't mean they're a fan of all other games and series from the same company so RPG fans who may not have been following Capcom at all due to their other games are just being greeted with "These single player games are anti-modding and have mtx” for them' for the first time. And that’s another thing too, maybe from Skyrim they expect "open world single player RPGs should mean mod support!" and instead the game has strict DRM and mtx in it to be a single player MMO.
I also think ecelebs played a partin the packlash Where many people who may have never played Dragon's Dogma or may much of other Capcom’s games that were all taken by the hype train by their favorite ecelebs promoting the game. Who all neglected to mention there were mtx. And then they also have in game characters of themselves. So tricked into pre-order a very expensive game that comes day 1 with DLC and mtx, on the recommendation of their ecelebs who shilled it for them, and finding out AFTER release that they were so in bed with Capcom they had in game characters.
Because these games were playable unlike DD2
People have been getting more tired of microtransactions for years. It makes sense they'll be getting more vocal about it over time. Capcom has been guilty of it for a long time now. It's not a wonder that the reaction gets stronger over time.
Forget dmc5, dmc fricking 4 had this
Dragons dogma itself had this
All day can blame is the internet being full thirdie now and their contagious hysteria
>*gluck gluck gluck gluck gluck*
>aaaahhhhh yes master capcom please give me more seed
How many years have to pass with nothing changing before you gotta admit this slope is not slippery and it's no skin off your back if people that spend $40 on lunch will just buy stupid things
>*gluck gluck gluck gluck gluck*
>DON'T INTERRUPT MY DICK-SUCKING SESSION CHUD! AND EVERYTHING IS FINE ANYWAY!
lol
gay
All better games that people are willing to put up with that didn't blow up your computer.
Because the game runs like shit. If it didn't run like shit, this wouldn't be happening. It's a weird sequence but that's genuinely what it is. The game runs like shit, it made people angry, and then they look for every negative aspect they can find against it.
Not to say I disagree, though. I think the drama is massively overblown, but I also think all the "DLC"s and microtransactions of both DD2 and all Capcom games since MHW should be eliminated. At least DD2 doesn't (currently) have any unique items like the endless reams of cosmetic DLC for MH, which no one fricking buys anyway so I don't know why Capcom keep doing it. That said, MHW and Rise are ongoing semi-GaaS games since they have hosted servers etc, and you have to justify that cost as a business somehow. Allowing mouthbreathers to buy ferry stones and rift crystals is probably the way that impacts me personally the least. But I also don't want it to be there at all because its existence as an option offends me morally.
It's an impossible situation to fix so long as israelites gonna israelite.
it only runs like shit in the city
runs at 60 everywhere else for me
Yeah, it reaches the lofty heights of what, ~90fps on a 7800X3D and 4090 in the wilderness? The game runs like shit. It should be hitting 120+ on significantly lower hardware than that. Frametimes everywhere are also fricked up, and there are stutters in some situations. The consoles also all run like total shit constantly. The city runs extra primo ungodly shit, has ghost people spawning in constantly in front of you even as you're bumping into them, and is probably where the majority of the rage comes from. And the worst part is it's not even graphical, it's something in the NPCs, or SOMETHING, so changing any settings makes almost no difference.
>The consoles also all run like total shit constantly.
Lightning spells drop the frames hard for me on PS5, especially when other magic is also happening. Fighting a chimera in a dank dark cave should have higher frames an not be dropping to 20.
It's funny because playing on PC, every effect in the universe can be raining down right on top of the camera while fighting a big monster and the framerate doesn't budge an inch because of it. It's running abysmally and fluctuating all over the place, yeah, but in the exact same way as if nothing was happening. I even have the raytracing on and it didn't make the tiniest bit of difference. It does make the game look much nicer though, very good sense of physicality with the RT on.
basically this
playing an action game at 47 fps is suffering
a consistent locked 45fps is fine. The real issue is it bouncing around between mid 60s and high 30s
i personally have never had to game go anywhere near 30 outside the main city
then again i don't max out everything like a fricking moron so who knows
>Not to say I disagree, though. I think the drama is massively overblown
Is it really overblown?
I mean its like the eceleb pawns. Is it overblown to b***h about that? In an otherwise great game probably would be, but when the vocations are so anemic its depressing to imagine that even a second was spent on implementing those when the time could have instead been spent adding MK.
Likewise. If the game was developed with "good intentions" they shouldn't have even considered adding MTX while the game had such severe performance issues. Their priorities are made extremely transparent by these two phenomena. And sure you can say "they" means "the publisher" but I can't pick whether I play the game made by the developer or the game made by the publisher, so it doesn't matter.
I don't like'em but this is regular capcom shit. I just ignore them and I find the "outrage" to be surprising. But I also play MonHun and RE.
People have less leeway for this mtx bullshit when your game isn't a 10/10 RE4R or MHW and it runs like shit
Long story short, if DD2 was better people wouldn't care as much.
>why are you mad now, capcom has been a piece of shit for years
why are so many fricking homosexuals mad they're finally getting so much for shit for "something all capcom games have"
That's the problem. "finally". You didn't speak up about it every single other time it happened. You didn't speak up several months ago with RE4. Not a word out of your mouth with any of the other REmakes or Monster Hunter games.
But now there is a game people have been hyped for for over a decade. Now is the time to get pissed and hung up on MTX. On the least egregious MTX Capcom has ever put out. Focusing entirely on the MTX and completely ignoring the actual problems the game has like the no new game option or mostly CPU dependent so everyone runs the game like shit.
No. It's the MTX that matters the most to you right now. Because apparently you managed to acquire integrity right now. Specifically and only in relation to DD2's MTX store.
You are so gay and transparent that when the light hits your body you emit a fricking rainbow.
Nice digits.
>you didn’t [headcanon]
I did though. Didn’t buy DD till DDDA. Didn’t buy DMCV. Stopped playing World after after the character vouchers edits and the metric shit ton of pathetic cosmetic add-on crap.
So……… now what? What happens now, Mr. Capcom shill homosexual?
Congratulations, you're one of five people who complained here.
>yea, I spent my evening defending a Japanese corporation on the internet
Looks really gratifying.
.t guy spreading DD2 lies for days now
>which is why I now must reflexively defend their monetization model
flawless logic there anon
Even if your moronic headcanon and logic would apply, you are right, the best time to complain about shitty monetization in games was years ago, but the second best time is always right now. And since you have no self-awareness, let me point out to you that you think everyone is specifically out to get your precious Dragon's DEI 2, when the truth is that it did a great job of painting a huge target on its moronic microtransactions all by itself. For example, that people mess something up in character creation that then becomes obnoxiously obvious to them in the game is a thing since forever and since the devs for some moronic reason thought no one would ever want to start a New Game in a singleplayer game, players not only bricked their games and fricked up their saves to do exactly that, no, their attention will obviously fall on the microtransaction that allows them to change their character right away without jumping through any of the strange hoops that totally not exist to incentivise it (like playing the character they want to change to find some trader where they can buy a item to do that 2 times). Same with the fast travel microtransactions becoming very obvious to players when you add up that supposedly the "journey is part of the game's vision" with bad optimization and low enemy variety that attacks you every 5 steps.
Thank you for the long comment 🙂 are you familiar with so game dev things and stuff,
Have you seen my reply?
Sorry shill, still not buying your dogshit game or paying for any of the microtransactions. I'll maybe sacrifice some bandwidth to pirate it with all the pre-order, season pass and DLC content for free after they'll release a few patches, kek.
>nooooo you can't speak up NOW, you had to do it 10 years ago!!!!!!
flawless logic, crayon eater
Witnessed.
She has a point. Why are you even mad about this? Just don't pay it. We get it, you're poor. Not everyone is poor though, so let people with money enjoy it.
That's also a thing though. Nobody is buying the MTX because of how completely worthless it is. If bought all $45 of that MTX. You saved yourself 3 hours in a 100+ hour RPG and 100% wasted at least $3 of it because of the Port crystal and superior weapons.
>Ganker is buying into twitter-tier outrage farming and clickbaiting
>"NO IT'S OKAY WHEN I DO IT BECAUSE IT'S SHAZAMPOSTING AND FUNNY TO BAIT"
I don't get the problem. There's already a CE table that gives unlimited rift crystals etc. If you don't trust shit like this search for the pointers yourself. By the way, the game runs pretty alright outside of the major city even on my 3080 mobile (1440p, stable 60 FPS and a bit above). But I do agree that the fps drop in the city fricking sucks, hopefully they patch it soon to run a bit smoother than it's a pretty fun game.
>getting surprised fricked in the ass is making people angry, but should they like it?
crapcom fans get what they deserve
I love all the journalists coming together and defending it and themselves for not mentioning it in reviews
>morons still seething and crying because the MTX is the same tier of moron trap that DMC5 had
Capcom broke the NAP by not making it run on my Haswell i5 CPU from a decade ago (unacceptable)
THAT'S FRICKING RIGHT, AND WILDS WILL HAVE THE SAME KIND OF DLC AND I WILL GET ENJOY IT WHILE YOU KEEP SHITTING AND PISSING YOURSELVES.
NOW GET THE FRICK OUT OF MY GAMES. THIS WAS MEANT BE A NICHE TITLE, THIS IS NOT FOR YOU AND I'M GLAD NORMIES ARE NOT PLAYING IT. I HOPE THEY FRICKING QUIT MH TOO. BACK TO OUR ROOTS.
Monster Hunter is a troony franchise so obviously it gets a pass from discord trannies. You don’t need to waste your time to state the obvious.
But DD2 enjoyers are secondaries like assmongloid. Real fans are playing it while acknowledging broken promises.
I think there's a chance they could ease off DLC plans for Wildses due to the backlash against DD2. A chance. Ease. Just repeating those words because I know someone's going to assert I said 'remove'.
It also HAS TO run better than DD2 does.
There is 0 chance they will relax on the DLC, it clearly works for them and once the performance is fixed, people will forget about it the very next day.
I'm also 100% sure they Wilds will run much better because it's done by the dedicated MH team and they acknowledged the problems with DD2 so at least they'll know not to do the same thing.
It's also releasing on 2025, so people will definitely own better hardware by then
>on
in*
Also they keep doing the DLC thing but if you look at them on Steam almost none have any reviews. They don't seem to sell at all
specifically "on 2025"
in 2025
Wilds is going to run better simply because it's not going to have moronic NPC shit. The only thing dropping DD2's fps to 30+ is inside towns where the cpu hits bottleneck trying to compute AI. Outside the open world, you can easily hit 100+ with a good rig. Enemy AI is much more simple than the NPC AI they're trying to make.
But their AI is dogshit.
Doesn't really mean anything. It could be good or bad, it's still eating all the performance.
>it's not going to have moronic NPC shit
LOL
lowest IQ itt
Our roots where people didin't have to pay extra to change their character?
embarrassing post
have fun when this drop and it ends being Rise but worse
>day1 dlc will filter le normies
Sure it will.
It's merely a coincidence the straw that broke the camel's back was the one game Shazamgays obsessed over.
>70 bucks per game
>no manuals
>no physical goodies
>unoptimised
>no 'start a new game' FEATURE
>but sill has microtransactions
Gamers are cattle, they deserve to be milked dry.
I don't give nearly as much a shit about MTX as I do the fricking Denuvo.
The doomers fricking won lmao
Months of calling them trannies and they raped this game ahahah
>reddit has a melty
>shazamtroons pat themselves on the back
>game has disastrous launch
>crapcom shills and dd fanboys have a meltdown
ftfy
>disastrous launch
>best selling single player capcom game, beating re4 remake
because people who talk about the game had no idea the licence existed until their online famous streamer friend told them to buy the game
Friendly reminder that there was pushback against Capcom's inclusion of MTX in their other games and people like OP are just shills https://screenrant.com/devil-may-cry-5-pay-to-win-microtransactions/
>but should they?
YES THEY SHOULD. Frick israelites!
Listen dude, Reddit and YouTube said its bad so we seethe about.
Do you just want to get shit like this pushed into your throat because reddit is saying it's not good?
This. Forget all the bad things about it and just have a blast with it
>looking at the main city in the game vs. looking at edge of the map
DD2 has some ugly ass stone walls, but so did DD1 if you went to similar places. DD2 is objectively better looking game and anybody claiming otherwise is being dishonest.
Because shit is shit no matter how many times you shove it down people's throat, dumbfrick consoomer.
Because the people getting mad have no personal attachment to the brand like they do with DMC, RE or MH
>MTX and gacha exist for more than 15 years people barely complain after the first years
>DD2 releases suddenly everyone in existence is complaining journos youtubers discordsistas
Wtf happened did people wake up from a coma?
Dragon's Dogma 2 is geting shit on beause it's massive disappointment an monkey paw
This vocation was just a joke humiliation ritual right? Nobody actually plays as this shit right?
Whole game is just humiliation ritual
>Damn my pawn got dragonsplague, I wonder if there's a new cool quest to cure or permenently kill her
>Nope, it's just a cutscene and now everybody where you sleep is dead while you were unconscious
GAYYYYY
This vocation would have been fine if it were a support that could work with pawns, assuming it had some healing or something. Instead they decided to make some jank 'tank' job that deals no damage. What the frick were they thinking?
It runs like shit, but there's gaslighting campaign that people only unfairly complain about microtransactions.
Just more proof that people are sheep and complain about the thing that other morons complain about without researching it, instead of complaining about the problems that actually matter, like how it runs like shit and has shit enemy variety
>qol features under paywall. not gonna buy your game israeliteBlack person.
homie I play edf 5 and dynasty warriors
you guys haven't seen shit
>Game is PISS SHIT EASY as frick with no way to change the difficulty
Thanks homosexual trannies, video games play themselves now. Hope you're happy in your safe space moron bucket
idc what homosexual Black folk on kotaku say
If Dragon's Dogma is free to play, then some microstransactions are fine as long as they are reasonably priced. If you paid $70 for the game and still have to purchase more items, then they are just milking you for more money.
I agree that there shouldn't be any microtransactions. But this whole outrage thing is still moronic because people are claiming you NEED to purchase them to even progress or to use quality of life items like transport or changing appearance. But every single item is purchasable in-game with in-game non real currency except for the camping kit skin.
It's moronic because it just shows that people get outraged over something they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about
There are many things to criticize this game for, but this isn't the thing to make a big deal about
>I agree that there shouldn't be any microtransactions. But
Uh huh
Because medieval setting with black people and the alt-SJWs know they can't build a mainstream outrage with racism.
Just wait until the inevitable MTX packs for weapons & armour sets - that's when shit will really hit the fan when people see that $70 didn't even get them a complete game because capcom cut content just to sell it back to you at additional cost.
Game has a lot more problems that need addressing than micro transactions
>single-player game
>consumable purchases
a disgrace
People went in expecting Dark Souls.
They got Dragons Dogma.
Now consider stuff like a rift crystal MTX as paywalling fast travel, despite numerous crystals being in game if you go out and search for them because Japan raised a generation of teleport hubs every 5 minutes.
>People went in expecting Dark Souls.
LOL
LOMBARD
>gmae runs like total ass on all hardware (being an ACTION GAME this is an important issue, unlike like "oh no my striclty turn-based trading card gaem only runs at 24 fps!"
>despite running like ass they prioritize trying to grab your wallet and pluck out every last bill you've got in there
typical AAA priorities.
It runs fine everywhere you need to fight. It's just cities where it chugs to hell and back.
If it wasn't for the NPC scheduling being busted, the game would run like a dream.
>it's fine sometimes
That's one hell of a cope.
test
Literally only trannies don't like microtransactions.
The “DLC” in DD2 is a message to you, from the developers, that says “We were required to make DLC but we don’t want you to waste money on it so we added the most worthless shit possible, please don’t buy it.” I don’t get why people are so mad about this.
Why didn't they just make the items purchasable in game but only on the easy difficulty?
If you can't give a reason that doesn't relate to them getting more money it's P2W
Every single item IS purchasable in game, there is NOTHING you EVER need to spend real money on. ALL OF IT is in the game
>easy difficulty
the whole game is locked on easy difficulty with no way to change it, that is a far bigger problem than the supposedly "forced" microtransactions
Can it even be called microtransactions? you can't repeatedly buy them, they're a one time purchase. It's just so people can buy the deluxe edition in parts if they want to waste money, there is no reason to buy them
There's a hit campaign organized by Sony and their bots.
This game despite microtransactions is better than 97% of other games.
More like 90% but it's firmly in the good game region
In the AAA space in 2024 only certain Nintendo games, Maybe Rockstar games and major Fromsoft releases compete
Recent Nintendo games have been pure goyslop.
Nintendo, Capcom, Fromsoft and Rockstar run the AAA game scene atm.
I'm trans btw if that matters
That because it's a remake of the first one
It's starfield-tier.
It gets boring after 10 hours.
What you don’t like killing goblins and saurians?
Literally me. I hate NG+ and always will. Every single game on the planet is primarily designed for NG. If I want to play a game again, I’ll play NG
>but then delete your character
Just because I want to start from scratch in NG doesn’t mean I want to delete it.
it feels unfinished, kinda mid
It's like soulslop but with clunkier combat
Capcom will never make soulslike game and that's a good thing. They were making good games before Miyazaki got off the breast milk.
Plays like the average bootleg soulslop with extra japshit flavor in the end
5/10 imo
It’s starfield with swords
It's good 20% of the time and annoying 80% of the time, refunded it and gonna pirate it next year with all the bells and whistles for free
It's 6/10
Clunky and boring combat in a game where the main selling point is somehow the combat kek.
It's a good $15 game, just not a good $70 game.
The first one is genuinely better.
Personally I feel nothing when playing it, when does the fun begin? Is it supposed to feel this empty despite the irritating encounters every 3 minutes?
Had more fun with Granblue Fantasy
Not with the shitty optimization
its worse than starfield
ever hear of the straw that broke the camel's back?
New ragebait bandwagon, GTA6 will have way worse shit and no one will care.
>The year is 2024, dragons dogma 2 fanboys defend MTX
Not even Black folk do this..
>microtransactions: BAD
>microtransactions in japan: NO BUT ACKSHUALLY THAT'S A GOOD THING
Ganker deludes themselves into thinking japan makes most good games.
because most of the people who talk about this issue had no idea Dragon's Dogma existed, or shat on it until their favorite internet celebrity told them to buy it
the gameplay is horrible btw. the game tries to do le were realistic bullshit and it makes the game clunky and boring.
They should have added $2.00 dlc adding I dunno gorilla enemies or something anything but the same fricking lizard guys or goblins
back in 2013 I got BDFtS for my 3DS
a few minutes in I came across the MTX they added (the 2012 original didn't have MTX)
you know what I did? I ignored them and proceeded to play the video game because it was still one of the best things SQEX had ever published
you homosexuals are insufferable
have a nice day shill
>I bought game from [company with greedy tactics]
>so what if I gave them money for the game, at least I didn't pay for microtransactions!
>*company proceeds to make money and puts out games with more greedy mechanics*
>anon 20 years later: "oh my god why the frick is gaming so bad?!?!?"
I haven't bought most of their recent SHIT because it's SHIT regardless of MTX
I did buy Haruyukite Retrotica because it's cool
MTX power-ups exist because some of you morons keep paying for them
I find character costume DLC more offensive because I actually want the costumes
>I did buy Haruyukite Retrotica because it's cool
thanks for the money, gaijin, we will make sure to create more microtransactions to cherish your donation
Thanks for the anecdote anon, I'm still just going to pirate the game, nothing personal.
It's not rape it's surprise microtransactions.
dd1 has better looking characters than dd2 im not even joking
So what's capcoms excuse for cutting a bunch of enemies from DD1/DDDA?
So they can resell them in a DLC?
Because it got the attention of people who don't play games.
wow didnt know that people who dont play games have more balls and are more interested in the wellbeing of the industry than us gamers! we should gather more attention so maybe this shit market stops being shit!
>bystanders are able to speak up
>addicts are not able to speak up
Doesn't sound so out of place to me.
Gamers have been complaining for decades but it took a few thousand normals to make capcom bend their knees. Its not that the addicts havent been doing shit, its just that infinite growrth companies are afraid of losing potential customers
this is where us games should have them by ze balls, by redpilling normalgays so they dont feel like their hype was misused, because in the end the normals are addicts the same
>Gamers have been complaining for decades
And yet, you bought this and every other predatory product released in the last 20 years.
Congratulations. You played yourself.
how do you know
Yeah but that sounds just like junkies complaining about weed and meth prices going up, but in the end just stealing more just to afford their next hit.
>if company does scummy thing enough times they gain auto immunity from criticism
Is that how it works now?
According to DD fanboys, yes
Daily reminder that all games ((journalists)) are leeches that should be drowned
Because it's a single player game, not some shitty beat 'em up.
The microtransactions in this game are all earnable stuff so they're less bad than most games so it's weird that DD2 is getting hammered for them so hard. It's not necessarily a bad thing -more games need to be btfo for microtransactions - but it's weird that this is where the battle line was drawn
Yeah, microtransactions should always be seen as bad, but this whole thing is moronic.
I don't even think it should be called microtransactions since they're a one time purchase, you can't buy them over and over again, it's only to give players a way of buying specific parts of the deluxe edition.
That being sad it shouldn't exist, but the way people lose their shit over it is insane
>Yeah, microtransactions should always be seen as bad, but
Almost had it, drop everything after that last comma. Stop excusing predatory business practices just because you like the specific game.
It's a bandwagon. There's other stuff to complain about but that involves actually playing the game and knowing what you're talking about. Anyone who hasn't can look at a list of DLC out of context and claim the game is predatory and pay2win.
I think a lot of people are misusing P2W with it, it's really more Pay 4 Convenience. Though even with that said, I'm still against it. At face value there's a lot of arguments that sound nice, like "but people have kids" and some that can sound awful, "its stupid people tax, just don't buy it". They never touch on the real issue with it all though, even if it's Pay4Convenience, it affects the industry at large. Not just the people buying the microtransactions.
When this stuff is ignored, or worse, encouraged it does affect the basis of how videogames are designed. The addition of Pay4Convenience items creates a solution, in turn it encourages game design to create a problem to push customers towards buying that solution. If you look you can see this happen in a lot of games, the grind is made longer, items are made harder to get, time limiters are created to slow progression, etc.
It affects everything, I'm not gonna shit on you for enjoying the game but I wish people could just take a step back and look at all of this logically. There's a psychology in game design, I first took notice of it back when Mobile games were starting out and moving from ads to in-app purchases and timers. It has gotten worse since then, and infected console and PC games heavily.
Sorry for the spew, just trying to say exactly where I'm coming from in all this.
That's honestly the only valid opinion in this case. Capcom has been doing this with ALL their games for ages. I think maybe this we have this scandal because DD2 has attracted more normies and people who aren't familiar with Capcom's DLC policies? Maybe it's off the back of BG3's success and since both games are RPGs in the broader sense, people are applying those standards to DD2?
>homosexual moron underage redditors doesnt know every single crapcom game has had MTX pushback
It takes 5 seconds of googling to find all the news articles of people complaining about the same shit for DMC5, RE4 Remake etc etc. Fricking homosexual moron oxygen thief have a nice day.
and now you care?
I care about newbies trying to gaslight people in to thinking DD2 is the first game people complained about this stuff.
just refunded it. game runs like shit and the gameplay is slow and crap. you guys are embarrassing.
Cry more. I'll buy what I want.
The DLC is mostly useless but the music in DD2 is disappointingly mediocre after the 10/10 soundtrack in DD. I did plan on doing at least one full playthrough with the DD2 music, but it's just not enjoyable to listen to.
no 60 fps no buy.
>inb4 poorgay
yes my iq is higher than yours.
>I have a higher IQ so that means I'm not a poorgay
lol poorgay
capcom PR department in full force.
>states he has high iq
>believes that a bunch of undercover game reps are being paid to post on an image board
lol
he has high iq
nice reading comprehension. also nice buyers remorse. no refunds homosexual enjoy your 18 fps japslop.
Daily reminder that DD1 was a flop
dragons dogma was never good to begin. only Ganker shills it. everyone else thinks the games bad.
This. Dragons dogma has always been garbage. It quite literally is a poor mans non creative version of skyrim.
DD is great but it flopped for similar reasons and like the original DD1 DD2 was released on the hype of another game Elden Ring in 2020 and Skyrim in 2010.
>DD is great
LMAO no. the gameplay is dogshit, 90% of the classes play like shit and have situational adaptability problems. most enemies are bullet sponge crap and cringe regardless of difficulty. unfinished classes like warrior. the plot is also trash and make no sense. the DLC makes the game somehow evern WORSE. the map is also tiny in reality.
>Elden Ring in 2020 and Skyrim in 2010
first of all elden ring is overhyped overrated normie trash. and that came out 4 years ago in relation to dd2. skyrim came also a year prior to dd1. its not like the games released next to each other,
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While the game itself is good i dont mind the backlash. Capcom is the problem as a pub. Theyre getting too greedy, their anti modding policies are BS, their DRM is BS, and sf6s monetization was already israeli as frick. Its fair game to draw the line at 70 buckerinos = complete full game. This aint a free to play game
A game getting backlash like this actually results in some change. Dont cover for the devs, its not an indictment on the games quality, its calling out all the publisher BS that surrounds it and for that it deservedly should get docked points
>why is dragons dogma 2 getting so much shit for something all capcom games have (including the original dogma )
Capcom deserves all the pain they get. I want off the moon.
i hate this argument. do you think everyone who has ever player a videogame has also payed for and played remakes of games they may have payed for and played nearly two decades before? These are different games that attract different audiences. Not everyone has nothing better to do than consume every vidya slop pile produced, especially remakes, which DD2 just barely walks the line on being one itself.
The 3DS Zelda remakes (Majora and Ocarina) did it perfectly I think. There were lots of quality of life changes and most loved them. I remember there being some issues with the fog at release, but that was later fixed up for free.
Additionally, recent RPG releases like Elden Ring and Baldurs Gate have no DLC of any kind to this day. DD2 is now the OUTLIER in single player RPGs that still try to sell you in game items for real world money. Capcom should get relentlessly shat on for being the one company still tying to push this in a single player RPG. Unironically kys yourselves if you defend this crap.
Lol, even things like Jedi Survivor and Dead Space had cosmetic DLC. It looks supremely shitty to put a game up on release with both technical issues out the ass and a monolith MTX sheet right under it on the Steam page. It just looks shitty.
>EA games have day 1dlc too!
No shit moron, that’s why I specified single player RPGs, not normalgay slop from EA. Have fun defending EAs scummy business practices you frickin loon.
Can you still marry any npc in the game? And is there more to it than her just kind of standing around in your shitty house at the end of the game?
>there are homosexuals on Ganker RIGHT NOW who spent the last 8 hours arguing for a Polygon article urging consumers to eat the bugs
Dire.
and they call you the bug eater for challenging capcom
People are acting as if features like fast travel and re-editing your character are locked behind a paywall when they're clearly not
But my favourite streamer told me it was!!!
What? No i didn't play the game myself, it has forced microtransactions you chud!! Why would i?
And if people reacted to day 1 dlc with fear and confusion every single time it wouldn’t exist, dumb c**t.
Now the game's reputation is in tatters because of some dumb shit instead of the performance issues that should have been the main cause for concern
It's okay, performance issues are getting some disinfectant too.
FRICKING LMAO
The capcom cycle of greed, getting btfo, trying to do well again, getting greedy and scummy when they get good, getting btfo.
A bunch of wolves just randomly showed up in town. Is this a glitch?
Seems like it had a cyclops waltzing in town one morning none of the NPC gave a shit till I approached it.
people could overlook the mtx when the performance wasn't dogshit
High profile releases like BG3 and Elden Ring not having MTX reminded people that they don't have to put up with them. Nintendo and Sony's first party games don't have them either if they're full price and single player. Industry standards changed.
those games weren't $70 either. people want companies to choose how they monetize. either charge $70 or be cheaper with mtx. if you have both then frick off.
because all the unique decisions that go against the player and the current standard of vidya (no easy fast travel, no savefiles, no easily accesible character customization, etc,) feel incredibly suspect when you are given the option ot entirely bypass them with MTX. Like it stops feeling like a design decision to make a more unique/interesting experience and starts feeling like a design made to make people buy mtx.
I bought microtransactions for Infinite Wealth and Dragon's Dogma 2 and I swipe in Genshin Impact because I am not poor
More like CRAPCON
>should they?
yes. I saw some guy mod 99 appearance changing gems into his game and homosexuals started dogpiling on him angrily because "OH EM GEE ITS NOT A BIG DEAL, THEYRE SO CHEAP, YOU CAN JUST GO TO THE BARBER" but if its such a nonissue why are even the defenders of this shit crying in the opposite direction
And then the whole bus clapped!
I would be less mad that he modded in the item. I'm more mad that instead of just modding in the MTX items they decide to go even further beyond and mod in 100x more than what the MTX was selling you. paying the one time $45 MTX got you virtually nothing of worth besides the rift crystals. Which would only be spent on the barbershop and hiring high level pawns. but instead. Here is a mod shop in game with 255 of all MTX items for 1 gold each. b***h about integrity of not wanting MTX.
Goes and fricking cheats his way through the game the second after. Like are they trying to "prove" the game was built around MTX? Because cheating to go above and beyond anything the MTX could have possibly given them doesn't help their case.
see
>NOOOO YOU CANT CHANGE YOUR APPESRANCE 99 TIMES!!!! ITS NOT FAIR
It's not simply the 99 times thing though. Its allso the 255 count of several thousands of rift crystals. The 255 count of the superior weapons, camping kits, rings, and pendants that can be bought for 1 gold each and resold to make a shit load of gold at the start of the game. Invalidating any need for money or rift crystals right off the bat. Also the change appearance books can also be sold for money.
They do this to "own the MTX" but it's just far worse cheating than buying the MTX.
>NOOOO CHEATING IS WORSE THAN MTX BUY THE MTX
fricking really???
Yes. Because people hate MTX for the nickle and diming but also the fact it gives them a boost over people who don't. Especially in games centered and built entirely around MTX. Which DD2 isn't as the $45 is so worthless of a value that you gain no other advantage other than having rift crystals to buy 1 or 2 good pawns for all of a few hours before they both get drop kicked off a cliff into a river or something.
While just straight up cheating ruins it for the person who is cheating.
I'm sure that really happened and isn't something you just made up for shitposting purposes.
seeing as its happening in this very thread, its not far off
because dragons dogma players don't play other crapcum modern slop and wanted a real sequel not a chinese mobile port of 1
But DD1 had this too
DD1 had a very slow dripped feed o DLCs and it was cosmetics focused at first like hair and skin, it later was all the pre-order bonuses. It wasn't until Dark Arisen that it got as bad as this even then it wasn't well received.
You could buy rift crystals in base DD1
DD1 launched with MTX Rift Crystals
>it wasn't until Dark Arisen that it got as bad as this even then it wasn't well received.
What are you blabbering about, all the DD1 mtx bullshit for RC, weapon packs, armour packs, cosmetics etc was BEFORE Dark Arisen. The DA release took all the mtx pack content and merged it into the game so everyone who bought DD:DA got all that stuff.
They're probably gonna do the same again, release a load of mtx packs over the next few months to one year (all of it already made before the base game released and should've been included, they're just greedy), then they'll release a proper DLC expansion, then a complete edition with the dlc and mtx packs included.
anon...
troons are treated in the basement
KEK
based devs
nooooooo we reclaimed that word. you can't use it like that anymore!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!
Have you been away for the last couple of months? There's been a heavy shitpost campaign against DD2. They latched onto the mtx and framerate issues and fueled the flames
It runs like crap, stop defending it. The micro transactions shouldn't exist. You should be able to make multiple save/character files. Stop defending dumb shit FRICK
Nah man, look, it has this mechanic that can frick up your save file for resting at an inn, that's the coolest thing ever.
Almost assuredly said by someone who's been mad at Dark Souls 2 hollowing or Sekiro dragonrot.
no fps fix no buy
>cancerous MTX
>WHY SO MAD !!?!? WE FRICKED YOUR ASS 5 TIMES ALREADY JUST LET US FRICK YOU AGAIN BRO!
>Re: performance
>yeah sorry bud NPCs are CPUbound, git fricked homo, we'll see what we can do(probably nothing)
SEE GUYS THEYRE LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY!!!!
it's called "the straw that breaks the camel's back"
customers are fricking up, the department of Justice just sued the national association of realtors for being a monopoly and now they're going after apple
we've reached a breaking point just like in the Roosevelt era, the utter dominance of corporate greed is about to end (again) and then we'll go back to decades of prosperity before they have to be knocked down (again)
all the opportunistic rage bait channels are lying their teeth out
but i really dont want to defend the gay shell that modern capcom has become either
its cursed
People no longer have a single original thought of their own anymore so they parrot the same shitty takes of their favorite ragebait e-celebs instead.
>anymore
why are all the homosexuals trying so hard to give the game a pass for this nonsense? are the devs trannies or something?
Crapcom shills are rabid
>go to supermarket
>see brussels sprouts
>I hate brussels sprouts
>buy all the brussels sprouts
>give the store a 1 star review for making me buy brussels sprouts
>go to supermarket
>see brussels sprouts
>hmmm I like brussels sprouts
>the brussels sprouts are incomplete
>some homosexual jumps from behind the brussels sprouts and nags me to buy a lego set of brussels sprouts
>I buy only the base brussels sprouts
>come home
>they taste like shit and don't want to cook like normal brussels sprouts should
>some homosexual knocks on my window and shouts from behind the window that those are some of the best brussels sprouts he's ever eaten and that I shouldn't complain
>throw them in the trash and wait for a discount
>food analogy
>no defense
here's my defense fatty
It was a response to a food analogy from a capcom nuthugger, you blind mutt.
>some homosexuals follows someone home from grocery store to yell about food you bought
>dumb fricking moron will buy bad food even at a discount
why and who would buy bad tasting food even on a discount knowing it'll taste like shit? At least make your moron tier food analogy make sense instead of just saying stupid shit.
then why are you defending CAPCOM games?
why are you getting angry i own slaves? my ancestors did 200 years ago!
>why is dragons dogma 2 getting so much shit for something all capcom games have (including the original dogma )
>something all capcom games have
They don't target the current generation. They target the next generation, a virgin generation that thinks their bullshit is normal practice. This all started with horse armour.
I don't even give a shit about the poor performance and have about 30 hours in-game right now, but the price tag+the MTX is a slap in the face. I've modded all the shit their selling into my game, but it's the principle.
Because games shouldnt have mtx action to begin with. capcom doing stupid shit in the past doesnt make the shit they are doing now any less stupid. People are finally get sick of it all. if only it happened sooner
I think the argument is more that people are only sick of it because of this one specific game, and when the next bigger Capcom franchise releases like a DMC no one will complain.
e-celebs swallowed misinformation without question and regurgitated it to their followers
creeps and weirdos are upset that they can't make e-girls, but are aware they cannot moral grandstand about the issue, so they've picked another issue to get in a huff about to sway other consumers. the mtx are a problem, but exist in so many other games, and the outrage of the issue is never this big. if the people complaining actually played the game, there would be FAR more outrage about the lack of a "new game" feature, instead of harping on meaningless mtx that exist only to lower your dollar:hour value proposition if you by them
>nooo please look at the other shit games that do this stuff, this means our game is okay
>you rike????
lol
yeah, again being disingenuous like the type of person i described. all these claims about DD2 being the "straw that broke the camel's back" is fricking moronic. no one is out here making a massive stink about fifa microtransactions, no one is out here crying about truck simulator, no one is complaining about GTA shark cards, no one crying about the sims, etc. mtx are the industry norm now, especially in japanese videogames, EDF has a million content packs. so you have to question WHY this game is the hill they are willing to die on for mtx. there is something else at play, and before release all you fricking gays were crying
>no e-girl, no buy
that's pretty much dried up, because you discord raiders have switched strategies to smear the game in some other way. like i said, if you gays actually played the game, you would complain about no new game feature, rather than dogpiling on something ultimately meaningless in the grand scheme of the gaming industry.
imagine getting upset that i called out you "no e-girl, no buy" gays.
ain't readin all that
thanks for paying so I can enjoy it for free later chuddy
>no argument
yeah, you got called out and you know it. creep.
there was an argument?
I thought you were just crying lol
keep being disingenuous, creep.
calm down sweetie, you're being awfully emotional today
you were called out, can't even deny it, and are now shitposting to cope. you don't care about mtx, you just care about e-girls. go to your containment thread about onirism, gay. pragmata is never coming out
shhhhh, calm down anon, everything's gonna be alright
no argument, can't even deny it. do the world a favour, off yourself.
now that's not nice, bucko
also I'm trans btw forgot to mention dunno if that matters.
because they bribed journalists not to mention the, until launch day
When you literally have to pay people who review your shit to lie, even by omission, you are inherently the bad guy
Only a matter of time before they try and sell mtx packs for more armour/weapons etc and the backlash will be even worse. There's a reason why there's frick all of it in the base game, a load of weapons and armour was clearly cut so they could sell it post-launch.
Capcom could get away with this scummy shit before because the fanbase just could took it, but DD2 has had a load of newcomers who didn't play the original and might not be familiar with other capcom titles. They've recently played much larger games within the RPG sphere like BG3 or Elden Ring which didn't have any of this mtx bullshit, so they're not gonna roll over just take it without calling out capcom like the weak older fanbase did.
Or just wait for a crack to drop and get it all for free like any normal human being should.
>b-b-but they won't make another game if you won't be a good paypiggy!
Good. Win-win situation for me.
Shill strategy #1:
>Current scam is irrelevant
>Past scams justify the current scam
Back when RE2 came out, "its just the unlockables you get for beating the game, who cares". Now its "So what if you have to pay to fast travel!? No one complained when RE2 was charging for unlockables!"
You can't pay to fast travel
Why do they always lie? Do you guys have a single working argument? It's honestly embarassing.
the game has enough problems in reality, why make things up to make it seem worse?
Oh no.
>compiles cheat engine 7.5
I swear you homosexuals will defend anything this company does.
why do chuds defend capcom so fiercely?
is it nostalgia-driven or are people shills for free?
are you being paid as well?
Where do I apply? I'd much rather be paid to shitpost into the wind than that I do for a career now.
But previous games didn't prevent you from starting a new game or kept you to a single game file in order to stop you from starting a new character without buying the "change character" dlc item?
the character edit item is available in-game for a pittance and doesn't start a new game regardless
It's funny, the original game had far more MTX, INCLUDING weapons and armor you could only buy with real money. Only later when it was repackaged into Dark Arisen all those things were included.
The game has less microtransactions than its predecessor.
that content wasn't all there day 1 moron, all the MTX packs for ""additional"" content cut from the base game like weapons and armour will come over the months ahead.
Oh dont worry, the quest, hairstyle, skin color and weapon packs are comming, unless they throw in those for free as an apology (which they should),
>Because the game runs like shit.
Discussion of this game always boils down to
>people who say they like it despite the optimization/mtx
>another group who calls these people bootlickers and/or shit eaters
>repeat ad infinitum
Most people shitting on the game are this picture
The MTX shit IS awful.
But why are the journos comfortable calling this shit out, but not the fact that so many modern games have draconian DRM that's indistinguishable from malware?
Runs like shit, mediocre combat, mid graphics, repetitive and boring.
It's a 4/10 game that's 8/10 if it's $10 on a discount.
>so much shit
You mean the same amount of shit that you weren't paying attention to last time because your favorite streamer didn't tell you about it back then and you have no opinions or preferences of your own?
>this kills the apologist
people always complain about mtx. but the amount of screeching for DD2 is far more than usual. it's pedos who are upset they can't make e-girls trying to latch on to something to cry about without making themselves look like degenerates who deserve the rope. if there was a 60 dollar, day one add-on that let the pedos make their pawns the way they want, the screeching would be FAR less. it's a campaign led by degenerates, if it was normal gamers then the amount of screeching would be on the same level as complaints for any other game, or other games that are arguably worse.
>only pedos complain about mtx
Are you having a BLAST shitposting, anon?
that's not what i said at all. but you know that, because you are a disingenuous pedo.
> if there was a 60 dollar, day one add-on that let the pedos make their pawns the way they want, the screeching would be FAR less
>. it's a campaign led by degenerates
Do you have memory brain problems?
do you? how did i start the post?
>people always complain about mtx.
i never said ONLY pedos complain about it, that's a mischaracterization. i said the reason the complaints are so much louder than normal is because of pedos who don't actually care about mtx but know their actual arguments are unpalatable to regular people. you are throwing yourselves in loops trying to pretend this isn't the pedos who spent the entire lead up to release saying "no e-girl, no buy."
Hmm...you sure do seem quick to accuse everyone calling you out as being a pedo while saying your point wasn't about accusing everyone of being pedos...
People that do that tend to be trying to overcorrect for their own actions. That anon likely has some extremely sus likes on social media.
>i never said ONLY pedos complain about it,
Frick off. You are.
>There may have been some complaints here and there but it was never THIS bad so it's DIFFERENT this time.
Two reasons:
1) Idiots who watch ecelebs got duped into their shilling.
2) Because of Bethesda games people expect open world single player RPGs to have inherent mod support. And it has agressive anti-modding and mtx for a single player game.
>Resident Ev-
RETAD!
Many people complaining are probably not the same people who play Street Fighter. Monster Hunter, Or Resident Evil. They were hoping this would be akin to a new Skyrim.
>Idiots who watch ecelebs got duped into their shilling.
putting more importance on ecelebs than you should.
>Many people complaining are probably not the same people who play Street Fighter. Monster Hunter, Or Resident Evil.
what about fifa? what about loot boxes in sooo many games? what about sims? what about edf? what about truck/train simulators? battle passes and other subscriptions? what about preorder bonuses? it's an industry norm to have extra content at a higher price tag, this isn't just a capcom issue. having DD2 be the hill to die on after 15 years of this shit, and suddenly have a much louder screeching than normal, absolutely means something is up. like pedos who spent the entire lead up to release screeching "no e-girl, no buy." this demographic is not a small demographic, as they are large and loud enough that capcom realized what was going on with pawns in the first game, and the pragmata trailers solidified it.
there you go again, disingenuous homosexual mischaracterizing things.
>what about fifa?
I honestly stopped reading here.
Have you ever played Skyrim? Do you know what Skyrim is? Have you even heard of Skyrim?
Are you real?
"muh skyrim" is not an argument. if you want to play skyrim, go play fricking skyrim. or are you just said that all your e-girl mods got taken down?
>this demographic is not a small demographic,
Okay, I read the rest your post now.
This even makes less sense on Capcom's part. They should've gone all on on e-girls and even added furries and furry e-girls (and shotas) and sell mtx for creepier and creepier outfits of them. What the actual fucl are they doing.
>having DD2 be the hill to die on after 15 years of this shit,
There is always "the last straw." And extreme example is a battered wife who eventually stabs her abusive husband of 15 years to death because he yelled at her over something petty. It was bar far not the worst thing he has ever done. But when you have had enough then you have had enough.
Skyrim is 100% relevant because I am willing to bet my anal virginity and unpozzed status that most people complaining fit this very specific set criteria of:
1) Disgruntled Skyrim fans (who like Skyrim for the modding) Waiting for a long time for good NEW game (Fallout 4 was garbage and also not Fantasy, Starfield broke their faith in Bethesda)
2) These particular group of people are the few that do NOT pay for this bullshit at all. Not in FIFA, not in other Capcom games, and they don't even play MMORPGs.
3) They are, admittedly, still idiots for buying into the hype without doing any actual research.
The next one fits into the previous ones but are also their own separate category.
4) People who watch things like Castle Super Beast who other champagne-socalist homosexuals or rail against bad business practices often and then spent the past several months suddenly sucking Capcom's dick and hyping up DD2 so much. That they conveniently left out the game's day 1 DLC and MTX and flip flop of "It wasn't in our review version" or "we weren't allowed to talk about it." And then they even have their own personal characters based on themselves inside the actual game.
"Problemantic" and ""not a good look" come to mind.
>There is always "the last straw." And extreme example is a battered wife who eventually stabs her abusive husband of 15 years to death because he yelled at her over something petty. It was bar far not the worst thing he has ever done. But when you have had enough then you have had enough.
It's more like she tried and failed to stab him then goes back to the status quo after he slaps her.
I have literally never bought any mtx ever and never buy games that has it. I never bought DD1 or DD2.
The only game I have with MTX is CSGO and that's before I got it before they added creates to it.
Feels nice to not be a skinnerbox slave. Suck my wiener.
Sure, post your Steam game list.
>Just dox yourself bruh.
I will find you.
I will study your gaming habits.
I will break in one night in the middle of your gaming session.
I will rip your GPU right out of your tower when it's good and hot.
And then I will sodomize for you with it.
>dox
A screenshot of your game list.
And I don't believe you. You never bought a single game with DLC or preorder shit?
I don't need you to believe me, nor do I need your endorsement. I couldn't really give a shit what you think of my game library, I'll just continue to vote with my wallet. It is nice that more and more people are finally starting to catch on.
>still believes in voting with your wallet
>You never bought a single game with DLC
Bad Faith.
Additional content is fine. Expansion packs almost as old as PC gaming. The key different is you're buying new, unique content, versus "services."
However...
>preorder shit?
Sadly, yes, a few times, because I bought the games later when they were old, "complete" and on sale and got pissed when I find out there is content I will never get (through normal means) because they were pre-ordered exclusive. Old Nintendo games actually did this bullshit too where SSBM had collectable trophies that you can't attain in the game and had to be at this rare one-time only events where you unlocked this content as a reward. And it's bullshit because the content is actually on the disk. So you can just hack it in.
Sure, just like options to buy subs or in-game currencies are only once.
Even if it's true I am never supporting this. Get fricked.
In order of importance from most to least,
1) Never support a game this is anti-modding.
(It is okay if they're not "pro-modding" just as long as they don't go out of their way to be anti-modding)
https://www.gameinformer.com/mod-corner/2021/09/07/massively-beloved-gta-mod-taken-down-modders-claim-increasing-hostility-from
2) Never buy a game where the multiplayer is online only with no player hosting or LAN.
3) Never buy a game with mtx or "infinite spend."
If you support any of these you don't deserve rights. You're too stupid to make your own purchase decisions and shouldn't have money nor should you be able to vote.
I like how your point got disproven and you immediately pivoted to something else instead of admitting you were wrong. You slimy lying homosexuals are all the same.
Why aren't you playing the game if you actually like it?
I because of course you don't You're trying to rationalize this shit to yourself. As I've said, I don't buy shit. And Capcom is SHIT.
The last game I paid for was Saints Row 2 back in 2009.
I know it's hard to imagine a life without acting like a dirty little paypig, but it's possible.
OH NO NO NO https://saintsrow.fandom.com/wiki/Corporate_Warfare
And?
>You never bought a single game with DLC or preorder shit?
Only San Andreas and Budokai Tenkaichi 3 before I realized I could just download everything for free 🙂
>And then I will sodomize for you with it.
Alright Hakmed calm down, I don’t want any trouble.
He's not the only one. I know it's hard to believe that there's people out there that don't fall into fomo so easily.
>They should've gone all on on e-girls and even added furries and furry e-girls (and shotas) and sell mtx for creepier and creepier outfits of them. What the actual fucl are they doing.
except leaning into that demo is repulsive and will alienate the majority.
>There is always "the last straw." And extreme example is a battered wife who eventually stabs her abusive husband of 15 years to death because he yelled at her over something petty. It was bar far not the worst thing he has ever done. But when you have had enough then you have had enough.
it's not the last straw, that's the point. gamers are still buying up and eating shit with other games with mtx, have not started screeching about it all together. it is a campaign agains DD2 itself, rather than across these practices as a whole.
>Skyrim is 100% relevant because I am willing to bet my anal virginity and unpozzed status that most people complaining fit this very specific set criteria of:
this is more of a stretch than saying the people who had a campaign of "no e-girl, no buy" before launch have continued their crusade under another guise.
>Castle Super Beast
what the frick is this?
>3) They are, admittedly, still idiots for buying into the hype without doing any actual research.
yes. this has been happening for a long time. preorder bonuses, shark cards, etc. it has been happening and will continue to happen without as loud of a complaint. the other games also don't have an existing audience of pedos who now feel like they've been shafted and were fairly loud before release that they were campaigning against the game. again, it is a campaign against DD2, not a campaign against these practices. if it were a campaign against these terrible practices, i would not say the things i am saying. but it is because people are mad at the game, not the industry around it, that makes me believe a large portion of the people stirring the pot are the pedos who feel they've been shafted.
>...who had a campaign of "no e-girl, no buy"
Wait, you weren't just making shit up? This was real?
Links, please?
Super Beast
>what the frick is this?
No. Consider yourself lucky. You're welcome.
>Wait, you weren't just making shit up? This was real?
>Links, please?
have you never been to Ganker before today? literally every thread here had people complaining about this, people are still complaining about it. again, capcom is very aware of this issue, it really came into focus for them around the time they announced pragmata.
I just assumed it was all ironic. Like a few weird cases if people pretending to be EA fanboys sometimes.
Aren't we all being ironic? Who here is actually buying anything at all, especially in this economy? We all agree that a new gaming crash would be a step in the right direction and to do that we should at least not give them our money.
>I just assumed it was all ironic.
why would you ever assume that? do you not realize where you are?
>If you don't like awful business practices YOU ARE A PEDOPHILE
Jesus FRICKING Christ.
You need to be murdered IRL.
pedos seething for being called out
Enjoy line going down.
>nine inch tall
I thought that was a major frickup to whoever made it but now I wonder if that is just part of the humor.
>nine inch tall
>Capcom is selling some of the rarest in-game items as DLC
What the frick is this IGN homosexual talking about?
Ferrystones are 10k gold off any item vendor and they restock daily.
Nothing else in that store is worth anything.
you can't buy Ferrystones.
You can buy one (1) portcrystal and a few wakestones.
JUST CONSUME PRODUCT AND BE HAPPY CAPCOM DOESNT OWE YOU ANYTHING
It's not a remake so there's no horde of posers to defend it.
Why were normies attracted to this in the first place?
Had they never played the first game?
It was always niche.
Also, the only place I saw this shilled so much was Ganker, and even then those things usually stayed in their own thread.
>Why were normies attracted to this in the first place?
They probably saw an ad and though "this looks cool." The audience for video games is much larger now than it was when dd1 released. Chances are no, they have not played the first one so they don't know what to expect.
Corpos got youtubers like asmongold on the payroll so now every game they plug becomes a viral sensation with zoomers and sells 200k+ copies regardless of the quality or appeal or even the genre of the product.
The portcrystal moron, there's only 4 movable ones in the game and one is locked behind an MTX purchase
Why would you want more?
There's seven I've heard, and you can re-collect them in ng+
that's including fixed locations, there's less movable ones than in dd1. Kinda shitty to have one behind mtx. Of all the mtx, it's the only one thats actually BS.
dragons dogma was never good to begin with. literal japslop circlejerk game that midwits praised like crazy. even the braindead mods praise this less than mediocre franchise,
It's a gross practice, and if you let precedent excuse it, that's too easy of a hurdle to clear. Because bad precedent exists goddamn everywhere. And it's not like you can stop them from testing the water with scummy shit. Doesn't make it suddenly right merely the second time they do it.
Precedents and future development only exist for people with IQs over 100. Most consoomers are almost literally animals and cannot think ahead OR behind and will simply appeal to whatever the current status quo is, regardless of how good or bad that status quo is. Big time
>but I already ate breakfast
Energy
>precedent
The precedent was set by Bethesda almost 20 years ago. DD2 could sell zero copies and every game would still have them, it's too fricking late.
Anon, the point I was driving at is "precedent shouldn't excuse anything."
He is also arguing in bad faith. Having a set of additional content you pay for once and then can use forever and ever in your game is an entirely different thing than buying "comsumeables" that get used up so you can buy them again and again, giving the game an "infinite cap" on how much money it can take from you.
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Category:Infinite_spend
You can only buy DD2 DLC once.
Which makes sense. Because right now, you can only play the game once.
Non issue.
>another dogshit game turns out to be a mediocre cash grab
Not my problem. I'll just pirate the frick out of it once it becomes good in 2 years after several patches, just like cyberpunk, lol.
i dont play games with microtransactions.
>PC trannies
the original Dogma wasn't even on pc until Dark Arisen
Because gamers have goldfish brains and immediately forget everything that happens every 2 weeks and then continue to make the same mistakes and then get mad about the same things and then continue to support these companies.
twitter culture warriors picked up on it, it's not about reality it's about being part of a righteous mob
to the point it's taken more precedence than the shitty pc port
exactly this. literally everything started minutes after launch with a steam review.
Dont really mind the microtransactions, my problem is Denuvo fricking with my performance and possibly banning me or something if I mod the game which I will. Its so absurd, get a job, buy a really nice PC and now the problems is the game itself comes with free digital AIDS, cool, why thank you corpoBlack folk.
>surprise
They were literally in the first game.
90% of dd1 players bought dark Arisen for 5 bucks on steam and never had to judge it as a full priced game.
No one gave a shit until 2 years after it came up they fixed everything up with the Dark Arisen release. DD1 is also one of those games where everyone just "loves it so much" because that was the opinion Youtube and Internet memes gave them. Just like how almost one has ever played KOTOR 2, Planescape Torment, Jetset Radio or the Earthbound series. Now that this hype trained happened and they actually played it they're seeing is shit. The PC gaming market is held up by Steam sales where the average idiot buys a bunch of games in bulk and then never actually plays any of them.
>but should they?
They're basically questioning whether you have the right to feel what you feel. This kind of people need to disappear from this Earth as soon as possible.
fotm trash game. also capcom doesnt make good games.
epic. epic for the win!
>epic games out of nowhere
youre indian
why are people pretending sub 60 fps is a normal thing on pc? the frick. not only games are getting worse, people are getting more moronic.
They've been waiting for 12 years, they're desperate and trying to convince themselves it was worth the wait. When in fact, it wasn't.
so the games a flop? lmao jannies are so FRICKING mad. i remember they stickied the stupid trailer for this shit game months back. GET FRICKED
No? It's one of the most played games on Steam right now despite the shitty port, and misinformation flying around about the microtransactions being paywalls.
>It's one of the most played games on Steam right now
irrelevant. lmao fortnite was the most played game in 2018. and fortnite was objectively a bad game just like the genre its in.
>prove game isn't a flop
>i-irrelevant haha..
>deflects to fortnite
>t. doesnt know what flop means, a word frequently used in todays world
lawl frickin moron, enlighten me. what do you think the word flop means.
it means that a game sold and/or performed poorly which isn't the case of this game despite it's many flaws