Do you not know where Warcraft came from, moron? It started out as an RTS. DOTA only loosely has ties to RTS because it was made in Warcraft 3 but League of Legends never had anything to do with strategy so frick off and take your pointless, garbage thread with you, little homosexual.
What the frick kind of argument is that lmao?
Like Witcher 3 got a mod and it's single-player RPG, ASOIAF is one of the biggest mods in CK2 and it's a book series/TV show.
Shit I guess if it's not based on an RTS we are not allowed to mod it in.
It's not an argument, it's me being genuinely surprised at how fricking moronic someone could be. There are reasons all that shit gets mods and LoL doesn't. You made an entire thread to ask the most moronic fricking question I've ever seen. have a nice day.
Witcher, first and foremost, is a whole ass series of books, and so is Saga of Ice and Fire. Games mostly put it in the general conciousness. (You don't see Gothic or doom getting strategy games. Skyrim sometimes does, but it's like 5th game in a lore series, and even then most of those project burn down before they get anywhere)
WoW had three games (well more like the later two) to pull setting history from, and MMO' s are usually filled with setting bs that average player clicks through in every quest.
Moba's like LoL have almost no "Story" cntent, other than what Riot releases in the shop window. I think the one story thing they actually had was that you could get a mission to kill Cho'gath as one of the characters.
Maybe this will change with more games being released in their "verse", but I'm aware that the whole setting was scraped at least twice during LoL lifetime (I still remember ahri actually being a fox, or the three northern clans being a new thing, I think that was during the release of Lissandre that those were introduced)
Probably off-topic, but Arcane does not do legwork, it just retcons anything it wants without caring about the bigger picture.
Like making Caitlyn a shy lesbian, instead sassy wienery.
And I don't believe he will "grow" into the what she is in-game, no matter how much trauma she might face, that just isn't character develop.
They have an universe page + LoR and Arcane did a lot of legwork. Also the setting only got scrapped once, and with good reason.
They could have advertised that page at the very least. And maybe if people could actually get the Realms of Runeterra pdf as anything other than a blurry scan, they'd enjoy a cool setting book.
LoL's lore's is one of the worst in the industry, as is the case with almost all MOBAs and competitive games.
It's a mishmash of shit that they keep piling on as excuses for cool characters. Frick's sake, there's no possible lore where on one hand you have Demacia and sword flinging groids, while also having those technofreaks that Singed and Warwick hail from, while ALSO having K'Sante and his spiel about "colonizers".
It's a mess.
... yes, and?
The point still stands: it's a mish-mash kitchen sink that was rebooted THRICE already, and various bits got reworked countless of times. Never to create coherent lore or even "lore", but simply to update some 10+ year champ to peddle a new skin.
Last time their lore was semi-coherent, it was '12
Except the early lore was the only one that made any sort of sense. Literally THE worst kind of wordlbuilding you can ever do is trying to justify shit, and that's what they are doing since '14. The last time they allowed anyone with any creativity to it, they made the joke event about magical girls fighting evil. That was what? 7 years ago? 8?
you guys are so fricking crazy
I am convinced you have never in your lives looked at any background lore of any champion in this game before or after the rework
Oh my Fauci I forgot that she actually exists. For some reason I always assumed she "existed" in the same way the K'DA and robot(like for master yi) skins exist, in a different timeline.
I don't know creators insert these pop idols into their fantasy world.
One Piece did it recently by giving Shanks idol daughter, who is somehow godly strong.
So what they made it better. They took the porn tier plot they had in the beginning and made an actual setting from it.
Are you really gonna defend pic related just for the sake of being edgy?
The setting made sense for the game it was in. If they wanted a new setting they should have made a new game.
There's a reason any decent writing avoids retcons like plague, because it makes any kind of investment into the lore counterproductive to enjoying the story(i.e you'll enjoy it more by knowing less of it).
And the fact that, the complete rewrite aside, retcons still happen reguralry, as the stuff is developed, balanced and redeveloped (in service of selling more stuff), means that the only time to really get into the story will be after LoL is well and truly dead from a developer perspective, and since it's an online only moba, the game will most likely be unplayable by then.
>and since it's an online only moba, the game will most likely be unplayable by then
We are slowly getting there, so it shouldn't take long. 3-5 more years, and their only playable game will be TFT, unless they slash it (doubt it, earns them more money than rest of the game)
Most of my time in the game, after I got somewhat hang around using the rotational champions I've spent either on twisted threeline, or that other circular map. It was fun, more fun than main map ever was. I also didn't like Aram, cause it was boring, although I distinctly remember one guy flaming me for a stupid item build (It was my first time playing the rotational character I picked up, and I was still getting used to which items are which damage type, so I was just buying whatever in the shop), and another guy telling him to STFU, because it's aram so nobody fricking cares.
>they made it better
Made better by not making sense?
It's crazy how many people on this site, every time this game gets brought up, are still assmad about the setting getting reworked like 12 fricking years after the fact. Especially considering how much of a barely-existent shitheap the previous one was.
I remember a League of Legends GSG being pitched at one point. After releasing the LoL RPG and then showing off a LoL fighting game at EVO, there was a survey asking what other LoL things should be made, and I remember one of the choices being a GSG, but it wasn't specified whether it'll be a blob painter or a Civ-like (since most normies consider Civ to be a GSG).
>Why is there no League of Legends gsg mod?
Because it's moron shit that makes no sense and no one wants to spend time fixing it up for free. WoW has Warcraft to fall back on with simple 4 major factions shit. TES actually has something to work with. League is more of a meme world like pokemon. Besides League players aren't really known as having imagination or being creative so you're stuck with nothing.
You're so fricking stupid bro it hasn't been like that for years. They completely redid the whole world from the ground up and it's genuinely high quality.
Like straight up a much better fantasy setting than what Warcraft has become.
>it hasn't been like that for years
Then where is all the community content to showcase this amazing world? There is none as it will always be cheap moba slop. You shit on Warcraft, but at least people care about it's world to make mods. Even Zelda and Touhou have RTS fan games in the works. League has fricking nothing as it only has do nothing morons like you as players. Because slop attracts slop. Make your own gsg League mod and prove me wrong else beg Riot to shit something out.
You'll see when the MMO comes out.
The only reason the public is not familiar with it is cause Riot had no big release to use as a vehicle to showcase their work yet.
Look at the cinematics Riot has been pumping out or better yet at Arcane if you're curious to see what could come off this. The show is based in a tiny corner of their world and look how much traction it was able to generate.
>Arcane >An incredibly tightly focused and properly written television series carried by some of the best animation and storyboarding in the industry >Is also not canon (and not written by riot). >This somehow means the MMO that has changed lead designers multiple times and has just had a new wave of layoff is going to be good.
I know it's the norm for league of legends players to treat riot as their abusive dad that makes no mistakes, but how delusional can you be? They aren't coming back from the store and their MMO isn't going to be good.
>and it's genuinely high quality.
It's literally the worst lore in the entire industry. Fricking Mystery of the Druids has more consistent writing than LoL "lore."
I will bet my fricking pants you know literally nothing about their lore but still feel compelled to make this post because you have some grudge against Riot or League of Legends players.
>know literally nothing about their lore
This is an argument you're making when questioning why nobody has made a mod for it?
Engage your brain next time.
Why would it? The only good thing about it is the cute girls. If anything what it really should be getting is a game where you get to hang out with and kiss the girls and marry them.
demacia is literally >hey whe are european knights but we are also kinda greek and we have french duelists and uhhh theres blacks around here for some reason
and its the same thing for all other factions they just take 100 different inspirations and try mixing in a single faction andd it makes everything extremely generic to the point they have to make every noxian use red/black clothing and demacians using white/blue because we wouldnt be able to tell one from the other if it werent for that.
>hey whe are european knights but we are also kinda greek and we have french duelists
You have to look at it from the context of what it was before they reworked it. Riot had to fill all the champions with clashing aesthetics that already existed into the same country while at the same time giving it its own visual and lore identity. They did a fine enough job. >and uhhh theres blacks around here for some reason
There is actually an in-universe explanation, it's not just handwaved away
An apocalyptic world war 1000 years ago fought with the wizard equivalent of WMDs that almost destroyed the planet and displaced millions forcing migrations across Valoran and Shurima.
Which is coincidentally also Demacia's origin story and why they hate mages so much. They were founded by various groups of refugees trying to escape the destruction who united into one nation.
She's not really meant to be read as white I don't think.
4 months ago
Anonymous
"Depends on the artist".
I miss times when she was just a chick with swords and her /d was a Brice de Nice reference
4 months ago
Anonymous
>her /d was a Brice de Nice reference
... it's not anymore?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Black person, she got that reworked years ago, along with general character rework. Between 2015 and 18, Riot had this moronic period where they would pick a random champ and declare it "obsolete", then rework them almost entirely. Kayle was the worst, since she went from pretty much perfect to utterly useless, just because some c**t was bored and decided that nope, utility champ is bad, let's make an underwhelming support.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Kayle >utterly useless
Kayle has been a staple in high elo for like 90% of the time after her rework what are you on about
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Utility champ that could be whatever the frick you wanted and/or needed to be got reworked into a super-narrow role >moron homosexual misses the point and talks about high elo
I get it that following meta rots the brain, but there is a limit how stupid one can get
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Anonymous
Old man swain became weirdo vampire hotness because they needed to sell him to the asian market.
Lucian being demacian doesn’t really bother me because he’s blacks but more because he has fricking GUNS when Garen and Fiora still use swords and armor from the middle ages
Lucians' "guns" aren't really guns + it's explained how and why he has them in his backstory. His wife has one too.
About guns in Demacia it is actually kind of strange that the Demacians aren't shown in any artwork using them. Like Noxus has plenty of canons and handguns. It'd be kind of weird if Demacia didn't have their own.
Riot actually picked up a lot of the Warhammer guys from Games Workshop to write their setting
It feels like their lore has been built on a foundation written by the marketing department, piecemeal as champs were released, and the people making the champs were as close to an ai as humanly possible.
In the early years Riot didn't have any professional writers or care that much about their world so they just came up with champions they thought looked cool then when they did get serious the new writers they brought in had to retroactively justify those earlier designs and build their world around them.
Every champ needs a tragic past now. Persecuted or tragically wronged by x, y fought to gain power and sacrificed "insert valuable thing" to gain it. Now they fight for Z and are a true hero/villain.
I used to main Ashe for fricking years. The champion is fine. The endless whining is not. Ultimately, I just had to mute that endless homosexualry, because there is nothing breaking the quadra like some sad gay shit about mommy issues
Every champ needs a tragic past now. Persecuted or tragically wronged by x, y fought to gain power and sacrificed "insert valuable thing" to gain it. Now they fight for Z and are a true hero/villain.
That's why professional writers are peak marvel-tier söy and optimal moba '''''lore''''' is just >yeah it's a lizard with a wizard staff that spits acid, who gives a shit just keep clicking
Except the early lore was the only one that made any sort of sense. Literally THE worst kind of wordlbuilding you can ever do is trying to justify shit, and that's what they are doing since '14. The last time they allowed anyone with any creativity to it, they made the joke event about magical girls fighting evil. That was what? 7 years ago? 8?
The early lore: >Raised from the age of two inside the Magi's Academy for Unpleasant Boys, Ryze has never really fit in with his peers. Though his disciplinary record might prove otherwise. At the age of seven, Ryze snuck into the professors' quarters and used a bolt of electricity to singe the hair from the headmaster's prized poodle, Yipps. At nine, he mixed an ordinary laxative into a batch of fire breathing potion his chemistry teacher was preparing for a class field trip. At the age of twelve, he dismantled the school's zeppelin and reassembled it inside the library. Six months later, he was caught drawing runes of binding on every chair in the academy's auditorium. (It took two full days to unglue the entire student body after the Witches Day ceremony.) Today, Ryze has joined the League of Legends to study the magical creatures and powerful will-workers that fight there.
Old school exellence right here... None of that pozzed shit from today's games...
>Old school exellence right here... None of that pozzed shit from today's games...
This, but unironically. You've got a cheesy, straightforward backstory that's perfectly fitting for a cheesy, straightforward romper.
SF gave characters nationality as personality, and it was perfectly fine
Oh frick I almost forgot this one existed. >There is an ancient form of magic, forgotten by many and discarded by some. It is the magic of the earth, of the resonance of crystals and gems. Taric's father was a healer in their city, on a world far away. Taric was always interested in his father's pursuits, even from a young age. Despite his burgeoning understanding of herbs, plants, and animal medicines, it was the power of gems that most fascinated the growing boy. It wasn't long before Taric had exhausted his father's coveted library and set out on a path of his own. He wasn't to be a healer, but a defender - one who used the power of the earth to preserve and protect. Quickly, Taric became a wandering knight, renowned across the land. That is, until the day a spell of summoning grabbed him from his home and deposited him on Runeterra. Now, Taric misses his world, though he is happy to fight in the League, protecting all who are in need.
Old Taric and I think Kayle lore used to be basically just "idk they're like aliens or something and now they wanna fight in lol".
Like this is the fricking lore all the jaded boomers here are nostalgic about and angry at Riot for redoing.
I would defend it on a simple principle: it's a single paragraph. Current bios are like a page each, and each the same dreary shit. Keep it sparse, or frick off.
>the secret to having a good setting is to not have a setting at all
waow thank you for saving the day once again captain Ganker
I can't tell if you are failing at trolling, or you genuinely can't grasp why people are nostalgic for it. Either way, it paints you as a moron, just for different reasons.
>Old school exellence right here... None of that pozzed shit from today's games...
This, but unironically. You've got a cheesy, straightforward backstory that's perfectly fitting for a cheesy, straightforward romper.
SF gave characters nationality as personality, and it was perfectly fine
Less lore is better. All that guy needs is "This is the Pink Paladin. He'll smash your ass in more than one sense. Opponents beware!"
I would defend it on a simple principle: it's a single paragraph. Current bios are like a page each, and each the same dreary shit. Keep it sparse, or frick off.
>Keep it sparse, or frick off.
This guy gets it >Original Ahri bio >Dunno, soul-eating, liver-devouring kumiho >Current Ahri bio >Still a soul-eating, liver-devouring kumiho, but now 2 pages long, trying to stretch the original into the size if never was meant to be
probably because anyone that cared stopped caring when rito stopped caring. >remove summoners from the lore >why are they fighting 5v5 on summoners rift then? >uhhh dunno lol
Do you have any idea how restricting it is to need to have every champion's story end with "and then they joined the magic gladiator arena!"?
It limits the scope of who and what can be a champion so much. Riot made the right decision when they got rid of summoners.
They could just do the natural thing and make the league an all powerful shadow cabal that rules the world and enslaves fighters through force, coercion, blackmail, and other nefarious means with a few willingly joining. Think Roman Empire mixed with British colonialism. The brits steal artifacts and other stuff to put in their museum, the summoners steal promising warriors to fight in their underground blood fight for money and renown, maybe even have a grand tournament every x years that determines which group becomes the leading councilors, adding a ultimate reason for them to pit the champions against each other so frequently.
Of course this is problematic and toxic though, can't have that. instead they just randomly decide to fight each other, sometimes against family or loved ones, and sometimes alongside their greatest enemies for no real reason other than "lmao"
The geography is way too imbalanced for it to be fair without giving certain factions moronicly OP hero units, and arbitrarily limiting certain nations. The In lore balance of powers makes no sense and making it playable would make it apparent that most countries only exist because the writers want to keep a status quo. >noxus game start conquers its surrounding plains immidiately gaining shittons of good land uncontested since demacia and freljord are bottlenecked by mountain ranges, becomes ottomon tier country but industrialized meaning every other country needs to hugbox to counter it since the rest of the map is too small >Most of the freljords land is useless, either gets partitioned early, partitions demacia with noxus or joins an anti noxus hugbox. >Demacia is just too small to push noxus back so they need to force a freldord,Iona,demacia hugbox or the game just ends. >Piltover & Zauns denfended my mountains and incredibly technologically advanced so any war between it and noxus would be one of attrition and of neithers intersest. conquers the plains of the southern continent since shurimas probably a failstate, can torpedo the game by supporting noxus or demacia or build up for a final standoff for whoever wins >Ionia sits in the corner all game waiting to get used for lebensraum by noxians, has to join the anti noxus hugbox or noxus's navy will be too strong >Shurima is a giga shithole directly next to 2 of the endgame crises spawn points and is full of wandering shizophrenic gods and god tier monsters, gets partitioned by piltover and whatever crisis spawns forst >targon is the spectator country >shadow isles isnt a country >bilgewater immediately gets genocided by the international community since nobody want to get their shit pirated
There are other nations in between Demacia and Noxus. And the Freljord and Ionia are not aunited political entities so they would also be multiple tags.
It really would only work with some constraints on the bigger nations, and expanded maps for the small ones >Noxus needs to immediately be forced into the Ionian invasion so Demacia has room to breathe, Freljord has time to unite, and Ionia can't sit back and watch the fireworks >Bilgewater needs significant diplomatic bonuses for fending off the Shadow Isles so they don't get ganked >Shurima needs to be seriously restrained at the start so they don't immediately blitz every nation around them >Both Piltover/Zaun and Mount Targon would need to be bigger on the inside to account for severe internal differences
If it was a thing the start date should probably be on the Noxian invasion of Ionia.
And the game CK2 for obvious reasons, fixes all the concerns you listed and you can have superevent invaders like Viego, Mordekaiser, Void, return of Azir.
I feel like Total War would be able to make use of it pretty well, the Lord and Hero system from Warhammer seems like it's perfect for Runeterra
Also gets rid of the sprawling empires vs. holdout kingdoms problem by splitting everything into small factions
But yeah, as it stands the Noxian invasion is the prime (if not the only) sensible starting date for any strategy game in this universe unless they ever flesh out the Rune Wars themselves
Modding Total War games takes too much time, effort and skill by comparison.
There's a reason people have been able to shit out Paradox mods for every imaginable IP ever.
>Demacia is just too small to push noxus back so they need to force a freldord,Iona,demacia hugbox or the game just ends.
Demacia is actually the military powerhouse of the setting, they also have the best land and natural defenses out of all the other factions, Noxus only really has its sheer size going for it and being too big to fail because they hold the equivalent of turbo-Constantinopole as their capital
He's a c**t and he has a gun.
At least that's how the old lore would handle it. He probably has some tragic backstory about unfulfilled love/revenge/both that superpowers him
I think you are missing the point. >old lore
In old lore rune magic was above everything else, hence -> fighting it out through summoning avatars of champions (rune magic powered) in the field of justice as an alternative to world getting glassed/shattered;
So you got that part wrong and didn't even answer how the current lore handles beings of disproportional strength going up against each other which was the core of the question.
It's you who doesn't understand what he's replying to and you can't screech ESL and write your sentences like a complete ape at the same time.
If you don't have an answer why reply in the first place, homosexual?
league of legends has always and will always be cheap anime-tier slop
original dota, heroes of newerth, and dota ii are all superior games thematically, graphically, and gameplay/skill-wise and i will vouch for all the others being superior to [[>>>>'loL' )as well (without having played any and without having the intention to do so)
The setting is kitchen sink slop with freakshit.
Fricking WoW got mods.
Do you not know where Warcraft came from, moron? It started out as an RTS. DOTA only loosely has ties to RTS because it was made in Warcraft 3 but League of Legends never had anything to do with strategy so frick off and take your pointless, garbage thread with you, little homosexual.
What the frick kind of argument is that lmao?
Like Witcher 3 got a mod and it's single-player RPG, ASOIAF is one of the biggest mods in CK2 and it's a book series/TV show.
Shit I guess if it's not based on an RTS we are not allowed to mod it in.
It's not an argument, it's me being genuinely surprised at how fricking moronic someone could be. There are reasons all that shit gets mods and LoL doesn't. You made an entire thread to ask the most moronic fricking question I've ever seen. have a nice day.
Witcher, first and foremost, is a whole ass series of books, and so is Saga of Ice and Fire. Games mostly put it in the general conciousness. (You don't see Gothic or doom getting strategy games. Skyrim sometimes does, but it's like 5th game in a lore series, and even then most of those project burn down before they get anywhere)
WoW had three games (well more like the later two) to pull setting history from, and MMO' s are usually filled with setting bs that average player clicks through in every quest.
Moba's like LoL have almost no "Story" cntent, other than what Riot releases in the shop window. I think the one story thing they actually had was that you could get a mission to kill Cho'gath as one of the characters.
Maybe this will change with more games being released in their "verse", but I'm aware that the whole setting was scraped at least twice during LoL lifetime (I still remember ahri actually being a fox, or the three northern clans being a new thing, I think that was during the release of Lissandre that those were introduced)
https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/
They have an universe page + LoR and Arcane did a lot of legwork. Also the setting only got scrapped once, and with good reason.
Probably off-topic, but Arcane does not do legwork, it just retcons anything it wants without caring about the bigger picture.
Like making Caitlyn a shy lesbian, instead sassy wienery.
And I don't believe he will "grow" into the what she is in-game, no matter how much trauma she might face, that just isn't character develop.
In which games?
They could have advertised that page at the very least. And maybe if people could actually get the Realms of Runeterra pdf as anything other than a blurry scan, they'd enjoy a cool setting book.
That's just greece
LoL's lore's is one of the worst in the industry, as is the case with almost all MOBAs and competitive games.
It's a mishmash of shit that they keep piling on as excuses for cool characters. Frick's sake, there's no possible lore where on one hand you have Demacia and sword flinging groids, while also having those technofreaks that Singed and Warwick hail from, while ALSO having K'Sante and his spiel about "colonizers".
It's a mess.
No it all makes sense if you look at it.
The only thing that makes sense is uhh uhhhh uhhhhhh total Veigar victory.
Riot actually picked up a lot of the Warhammer guys from Games Workshop to write their setting
... yes, and?
The point still stands: it's a mish-mash kitchen sink that was rebooted THRICE already, and various bits got reworked countless of times. Never to create coherent lore or even "lore", but simply to update some 10+ year champ to peddle a new skin.
Last time their lore was semi-coherent, it was '12
you guys are so fricking crazy
I am convinced you have never in your lives looked at any background lore of any champion in this game before or after the rework
>flinging groids, while also having those technofreaks
Those are least bad, when you fricking pop idols like Seraphine.
Oh my Fauci I forgot that she actually exists. For some reason I always assumed she "existed" in the same way the K'DA and robot(like for master yi) skins exist, in a different timeline.
I don't know creators insert these pop idols into their fantasy world.
One Piece did it recently by giving Shanks idol daughter, who is somehow godly strong.
they removed the League of Legends from the lore of a game called League of Legends.
So what they made it better. They took the porn tier plot they had in the beginning and made an actual setting from it.
Are you really gonna defend pic related just for the sake of being edgy?
The moronic Faerun style mountain ranges in
are just as trash as the map you've posted, the OP's pic just has nicer graphics but it still looks like moronic "babby's first world" crap.
>they made it better
Made better by not making sense?
The setting made sense for the game it was in. If they wanted a new setting they should have made a new game.
There's a reason any decent writing avoids retcons like plague, because it makes any kind of investment into the lore counterproductive to enjoying the story(i.e you'll enjoy it more by knowing less of it).
And the fact that, the complete rewrite aside, retcons still happen reguralry, as the stuff is developed, balanced and redeveloped (in service of selling more stuff), means that the only time to really get into the story will be after LoL is well and truly dead from a developer perspective, and since it's an online only moba, the game will most likely be unplayable by then.
>and since it's an online only moba, the game will most likely be unplayable by then
We are slowly getting there, so it shouldn't take long. 3-5 more years, and their only playable game will be TFT, unless they slash it (doubt it, earns them more money than rest of the game)
Most of my time in the game, after I got somewhat hang around using the rotational champions I've spent either on twisted threeline, or that other circular map. It was fun, more fun than main map ever was. I also didn't like Aram, cause it was boring, although I distinctly remember one guy flaming me for a stupid item build (It was my first time playing the rotational character I picked up, and I was still getting used to which items are which damage type, so I was just buying whatever in the shop), and another guy telling him to STFU, because it's aram so nobody fricking cares.
>after LoL is well and truly dead
2 more weeks
It's crazy how many people on this site, every time this game gets brought up, are still assmad about the setting getting reworked like 12 fricking years after the fact. Especially considering how much of a barely-existent shitheap the previous one was.
>assmad
?
>states that shit lore is shit
>oh no stop screaming inside my head
The copium stocks are on the rise.
I remember a League of Legends GSG being pitched at one point. After releasing the LoL RPG and then showing off a LoL fighting game at EVO, there was a survey asking what other LoL things should be made, and I remember one of the choices being a GSG, but it wasn't specified whether it'll be a blob painter or a Civ-like (since most normies consider Civ to be a GSG).
>Why is there no League of Legends gsg mod?
Because it's moron shit that makes no sense and no one wants to spend time fixing it up for free. WoW has Warcraft to fall back on with simple 4 major factions shit. TES actually has something to work with. League is more of a meme world like pokemon. Besides League players aren't really known as having imagination or being creative so you're stuck with nothing.
You're so fricking stupid bro it hasn't been like that for years. They completely redid the whole world from the ground up and it's genuinely high quality.
Like straight up a much better fantasy setting than what Warcraft has become.
>it hasn't been like that for years
Then where is all the community content to showcase this amazing world? There is none as it will always be cheap moba slop. You shit on Warcraft, but at least people care about it's world to make mods. Even Zelda and Touhou have RTS fan games in the works. League has fricking nothing as it only has do nothing morons like you as players. Because slop attracts slop. Make your own gsg League mod and prove me wrong else beg Riot to shit something out.
You'll see when the MMO comes out.
The only reason the public is not familiar with it is cause Riot had no big release to use as a vehicle to showcase their work yet.
Look at the cinematics Riot has been pumping out or better yet at Arcane if you're curious to see what could come off this. The show is based in a tiny corner of their world and look how much traction it was able to generate.
>dykecore slop
>You'll see when the MMO comes out.
Lmfao just 15 years too late to take advantage of the trend. Are all LoL layers as fricking stupid as you?
>Arcane
>An incredibly tightly focused and properly written television series carried by some of the best animation and storyboarding in the industry
>Is also not canon (and not written by riot).
>This somehow means the MMO that has changed lead designers multiple times and has just had a new wave of layoff is going to be good.
I know it's the norm for league of legends players to treat riot as their abusive dad that makes no mistakes, but how delusional can you be? They aren't coming back from the store and their MMO isn't going to be good.
Arcane is canon.
>and it's genuinely high quality.
It's literally the worst lore in the entire industry. Fricking Mystery of the Druids has more consistent writing than LoL "lore."
Frick off.
I will bet my fricking pants you know literally nothing about their lore but still feel compelled to make this post because you have some grudge against Riot or League of Legends players.
>know literally nothing about their lore
This is an argument you're making when questioning why nobody has made a mod for it?
Engage your brain next time.
>tfw no dota gsg
No shared playerbase in significant enough numbers for anyone to bother
Why would it? The only good thing about it is the cute girls. If anything what it really should be getting is a game where you get to hang out with and kiss the girls and marry them.
demacia is literally
>hey whe are european knights but we are also kinda greek and we have french duelists and uhhh theres blacks around here for some reason
and its the same thing for all other factions they just take 100 different inspirations and try mixing in a single faction andd it makes everything extremely generic to the point they have to make every noxian use red/black clothing and demacians using white/blue because we wouldnt be able to tell one from the other if it werent for that.
>hey whe are european knights but we are also kinda greek and we have french duelists
You have to look at it from the context of what it was before they reworked it. Riot had to fill all the champions with clashing aesthetics that already existed into the same country while at the same time giving it its own visual and lore identity. They did a fine enough job.
>and uhhh theres blacks around here for some reason
There is actually an in-universe explanation, it's not just handwaved away
>There is actually an in-universe explanation, it's not just handwaved away
illegal immigration funded by a subversive religious order of bankers?
An apocalyptic world war 1000 years ago fought with the wizard equivalent of WMDs that almost destroyed the planet and displaced millions forcing migrations across Valoran and Shurima.
Which is coincidentally also Demacia's origin story and why they hate mages so much. They were founded by various groups of refugees trying to escape the destruction who united into one nation.
Riot has actually been consistent with the human phenotypes in their world. It's something like this.
To play devil's advocate: Irelia is white. But that's more to poke fun out of it than disagreeing
She's not really meant to be read as white I don't think.
"Depends on the artist".
I miss times when she was just a chick with swords and her /d was a Brice de Nice reference
>her /d was a Brice de Nice reference
... it's not anymore?
Black person, she got that reworked years ago, along with general character rework. Between 2015 and 18, Riot had this moronic period where they would pick a random champ and declare it "obsolete", then rework them almost entirely. Kayle was the worst, since she went from pretty much perfect to utterly useless, just because some c**t was bored and decided that nope, utility champ is bad, let's make an underwhelming support.
>Kayle
>utterly useless
Kayle has been a staple in high elo for like 90% of the time after her rework what are you on about
>Utility champ that could be whatever the frick you wanted and/or needed to be got reworked into a super-narrow role
>moron homosexual misses the point and talks about high elo
I get it that following meta rots the brain, but there is a limit how stupid one can get
Old man swain became weirdo vampire hotness because they needed to sell him to the asian market.
Lucian being demacian doesn’t really bother me because he’s blacks but more because he has fricking GUNS when Garen and Fiora still use swords and armor from the middle ages
Lucians' "guns" aren't really guns + it's explained how and why he has them in his backstory. His wife has one too.
About guns in Demacia it is actually kind of strange that the Demacians aren't shown in any artwork using them. Like Noxus has plenty of canons and handguns. It'd be kind of weird if Demacia didn't have their own.
It feels like their lore has been built on a foundation written by the marketing department, piecemeal as champs were released, and the people making the champs were as close to an ai as humanly possible.
In the early years Riot didn't have any professional writers or care that much about their world so they just came up with champions they thought looked cool then when they did get serious the new writers they brought in had to retroactively justify those earlier designs and build their world around them.
You just described the soul to soulless pipeline.
Every champ needs a tragic past now. Persecuted or tragically wronged by x, y fought to gain power and sacrificed "insert valuable thing" to gain it. Now they fight for Z and are a true hero/villain.
I used to main Ashe for fricking years. The champion is fine. The endless whining is not. Ultimately, I just had to mute that endless homosexualry, because there is nothing breaking the quadra like some sad gay shit about mommy issues
That's why professional writers are peak marvel-tier söy and optimal moba '''''lore''''' is just
>yeah it's a lizard with a wizard staff that spits acid, who gives a shit just keep clicking
Except the early lore was the only one that made any sort of sense. Literally THE worst kind of wordlbuilding you can ever do is trying to justify shit, and that's what they are doing since '14. The last time they allowed anyone with any creativity to it, they made the joke event about magical girls fighting evil. That was what? 7 years ago? 8?
The early lore:
>Raised from the age of two inside the Magi's Academy for Unpleasant Boys, Ryze has never really fit in with his peers. Though his disciplinary record might prove otherwise. At the age of seven, Ryze snuck into the professors' quarters and used a bolt of electricity to singe the hair from the headmaster's prized poodle, Yipps. At nine, he mixed an ordinary laxative into a batch of fire breathing potion his chemistry teacher was preparing for a class field trip. At the age of twelve, he dismantled the school's zeppelin and reassembled it inside the library. Six months later, he was caught drawing runes of binding on every chair in the academy's auditorium. (It took two full days to unglue the entire student body after the Witches Day ceremony.) Today, Ryze has joined the League of Legends to study the magical creatures and powerful will-workers that fight there.
Old school exellence right here... None of that pozzed shit from today's games...
>Old school exellence right here... None of that pozzed shit from today's games...
This, but unironically. You've got a cheesy, straightforward backstory that's perfectly fitting for a cheesy, straightforward romper.
SF gave characters nationality as personality, and it was perfectly fine
I could see an RTS being made with Runeterra.
>and the lore is cool.
zoomer moment
This thread makes me LoL. Might as well make a Guilty Gear GSG mod first, at least that has a strategy game.
>weebshit
Oh frick I almost forgot this one existed.
>There is an ancient form of magic, forgotten by many and discarded by some. It is the magic of the earth, of the resonance of crystals and gems. Taric's father was a healer in their city, on a world far away. Taric was always interested in his father's pursuits, even from a young age. Despite his burgeoning understanding of herbs, plants, and animal medicines, it was the power of gems that most fascinated the growing boy. It wasn't long before Taric had exhausted his father's coveted library and set out on a path of his own. He wasn't to be a healer, but a defender - one who used the power of the earth to preserve and protect. Quickly, Taric became a wandering knight, renowned across the land. That is, until the day a spell of summoning grabbed him from his home and deposited him on Runeterra. Now, Taric misses his world, though he is happy to fight in the League, protecting all who are in need.
Old Taric and I think Kayle lore used to be basically just "idk they're like aliens or something and now they wanna fight in lol".
Like this is the fricking lore all the jaded boomers here are nostalgic about and angry at Riot for redoing.
Less lore is better. All that guy needs is "This is the Pink Paladin. He'll smash your ass in more than one sense. Opponents beware!"
>the secret to having a good setting is to not have a setting at all
waow thank you for saving the day once again captain Ganker
>Hehe, bump!
Oh look, another homosexual trying to ruin another board by enforcing 7-day autosage
I can't tell if you are failing at trolling, or you genuinely can't grasp why people are nostalgic for it. Either way, it paints you as a moron, just for different reasons.
Those guys get it
I would defend it on a simple principle: it's a single paragraph. Current bios are like a page each, and each the same dreary shit. Keep it sparse, or frick off.
>Keep it sparse, or frick off.
This guy gets it
>Original Ahri bio
>Dunno, soul-eating, liver-devouring kumiho
>Current Ahri bio
>Still a soul-eating, liver-devouring kumiho, but now 2 pages long, trying to stretch the original into the size if never was meant to be
probably because anyone that cared stopped caring when rito stopped caring.
>remove summoners from the lore
>why are they fighting 5v5 on summoners rift then?
>uhhh dunno lol
did you ever watch a super smash bros match and ask yourself "BUT WHY THEY FIGHTING DOE???"
Do you have any idea how restricting it is to need to have every champion's story end with "and then they joined the magic gladiator arena!"?
It limits the scope of who and what can be a champion so much. Riot made the right decision when they got rid of summoners.
>when they got rid of summoners.
The game still calls you a summoner, thou
>how restricting
I find it a feature, not a bug
They could just do the natural thing and make the league an all powerful shadow cabal that rules the world and enslaves fighters through force, coercion, blackmail, and other nefarious means with a few willingly joining. Think Roman Empire mixed with British colonialism. The brits steal artifacts and other stuff to put in their museum, the summoners steal promising warriors to fight in their underground blood fight for money and renown, maybe even have a grand tournament every x years that determines which group becomes the leading councilors, adding a ultimate reason for them to pit the champions against each other so frequently.
Of course this is problematic and toxic though, can't have that. instead they just randomly decide to fight each other, sometimes against family or loved ones, and sometimes alongside their greatest enemies for no real reason other than "lmao"
The geography is way too imbalanced for it to be fair without giving certain factions moronicly OP hero units, and arbitrarily limiting certain nations. The In lore balance of powers makes no sense and making it playable would make it apparent that most countries only exist because the writers want to keep a status quo.
>noxus game start conquers its surrounding plains immidiately gaining shittons of good land uncontested since demacia and freljord are bottlenecked by mountain ranges, becomes ottomon tier country but industrialized meaning every other country needs to hugbox to counter it since the rest of the map is too small
>Most of the freljords land is useless, either gets partitioned early, partitions demacia with noxus or joins an anti noxus hugbox.
>Demacia is just too small to push noxus back so they need to force a freldord,Iona,demacia hugbox or the game just ends.
>Piltover & Zauns denfended my mountains and incredibly technologically advanced so any war between it and noxus would be one of attrition and of neithers intersest. conquers the plains of the southern continent since shurimas probably a failstate, can torpedo the game by supporting noxus or demacia or build up for a final standoff for whoever wins
>Ionia sits in the corner all game waiting to get used for lebensraum by noxians, has to join the anti noxus hugbox or noxus's navy will be too strong
>Shurima is a giga shithole directly next to 2 of the endgame crises spawn points and is full of wandering shizophrenic gods and god tier monsters, gets partitioned by piltover and whatever crisis spawns forst
>targon is the spectator country
>shadow isles isnt a country
>bilgewater immediately gets genocided by the international community since nobody want to get their shit pirated
There are other nations in between Demacia and Noxus. And the Freljord and Ionia are not aunited political entities so they would also be multiple tags.
It really would only work with some constraints on the bigger nations, and expanded maps for the small ones
>Noxus needs to immediately be forced into the Ionian invasion so Demacia has room to breathe, Freljord has time to unite, and Ionia can't sit back and watch the fireworks
>Bilgewater needs significant diplomatic bonuses for fending off the Shadow Isles so they don't get ganked
>Shurima needs to be seriously restrained at the start so they don't immediately blitz every nation around them
>Both Piltover/Zaun and Mount Targon would need to be bigger on the inside to account for severe internal differences
If it was a thing the start date should probably be on the Noxian invasion of Ionia.
And the game CK2 for obvious reasons, fixes all the concerns you listed and you can have superevent invaders like Viego, Mordekaiser, Void, return of Azir.
I feel like Total War would be able to make use of it pretty well, the Lord and Hero system from Warhammer seems like it's perfect for Runeterra
Also gets rid of the sprawling empires vs. holdout kingdoms problem by splitting everything into small factions
But yeah, as it stands the Noxian invasion is the prime (if not the only) sensible starting date for any strategy game in this universe unless they ever flesh out the Rune Wars themselves
Modding Total War games takes too much time, effort and skill by comparison.
There's a reason people have been able to shit out Paradox mods for every imaginable IP ever.
>Demacia is just too small to push noxus back so they need to force a freldord,Iona,demacia hugbox or the game just ends.
Demacia is actually the military powerhouse of the setting, they also have the best land and natural defenses out of all the other factions, Noxus only really has its sheer size going for it and being too big to fail because they hold the equivalent of turbo-Constantinopole as their capital
Also keked at the picture
offtopic, but I hate how "hihihiha" sfx is by now prerecorded in my brain. I never even played that mobile game.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2623419485
Should prolly be CK2 though rather than EU4 no?
What's the current cannon that explains how a c**t with a gun can go against a God?
He's a c**t and he has a gun.
At least that's how the old lore would handle it. He probably has some tragic backstory about unfulfilled love/revenge/both that superpowers him
I think you are missing the point.
>old lore
In old lore rune magic was above everything else, hence -> fighting it out through summoning avatars of champions (rune magic powered) in the field of justice as an alternative to world getting glassed/shattered;
So you got that part wrong and didn't even answer how the current lore handles beings of disproportional strength going up against each other which was the core of the question.
... are you ESL and simply don't understand the post you've replied to, or just moronic and acting out?
It's you who doesn't understand what he's replying to and you can't screech ESL and write your sentences like a complete ape at the same time.
If you don't have an answer why reply in the first place, homosexual?
league of legends has always and will always be cheap anime-tier slop
original dota, heroes of newerth, and dota ii are all superior games thematically, graphically, and gameplay/skill-wise and i will vouch for all the others being superior to [[>>>>'loL' )as well (without having played any and without having the intention to do so)
you have been served,,
later losers