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Pokemon Legends Kyurem
in shitiness?, hopefully not.
there will never be another legends game.
damn, only 12 million sold. utter failure
Rent free, cope and meds
>crystal, emerald, platinum on the bottom 3
I dont understand why they sold so much worse when they are objectively better than the originals. Why would you play any of the first two versions when the third version exists?
Kids don't wanna miss out on the new pokemon games
Hype has long died and gen is almost over plus they're just slightly better versions of the originals which everyone already played
I hope I don't actually need to explain why people are generally not keen to play a reskin of a game they've already finished months ago or that the majority of the sales for the originals occured when the third version didn't exist
Nobody wants to repay for a game where the content is 90% recycled.
Sales doesn't mean anything. HGSS sold as much as it and is one of the best games in the series.
>Sales doesn't mean anything
GF only give a shit about sales so no, they mean everything
Not for pokemon that always sell a shit ton no matter what
>he say
>when legends flopped compare to all other pokemon games on the switch
>when legends flopped compare to all other pokemon games on the switch
I like PLA and that's enough for me. Mainline pokemon games don't flop so this discussion about sales is moronic anyway.
This, people clearly don't know what flops are anymore.
>bottom 5 worst selling pokemon games are almost all third versions
>another moron who think b2w2 isnt a third version
kek
it's a sequel
They could have a "Legends" game set in present time. The way they get the whole "violent wild pokemon" gimmick to work could be that they are under some spell or something from the evil bad guy team/threat of the region.
Once you defeat the big baddie that is causing the wild pokemon to attack you, you beat the game. However, when you re-enter the save file it brings you back to just before you faced the final boss like in BotW so that you can still wrap things up (and do post game things) while the in-world reason for the pokemon being angry still exists.
That's pretty much Colosseum/XD.
Anyone who hasn't played Black and White 2 has missed out.
>still seething
>still coping
Pokemon Legends Deoxys
Pokemon Legends Celebi
>catch the same mon 25 times between this unending parade of cutscenes nobody asked for
even xy is better than this shit
Pokemon Legends Zygarde
Leaky Anus has already been surpassed by Shit and Vomit
It's good but very repetitive (but nonetheless refreshing). The intent oozes depth - its classically whimsical in that pokemon way, it has an engaging core gameplay loop (even if as said it gets tired and is far from replayable), and there's clearly a lot of love for the franchise as a whole put into it - when considered along recent mainline games. I like to think it can be a good platform to build off. I genuinely don't know what makes some anons seethe so much.
couldn't have said it better
I thought PLA would save the series seeing as SV was going for something similar, I don't understand how they managed to frick it up
The problem was they used the new 3d programming staff for PLA as their testing game. SV was developed during the same time as PLA and used their older staff that have no idea how to make a 3d game. It's also why none of the improvements from PLA carried over.
>12 million
Pretty sure its passed 14 million now, but people love to hate on Legends for some reason. I think people are just allergic to anyone saying they're having fun in a Pokemon game that isn't from whatever their favorite (introductory) Pokemon generation is.
>still flop harder than bw
wow, such amazing sales.
meanwhile bdsp, a real pokemon game, pass 16 million and is still going.
BDSP is trash and not falling for your dumb bait
It's literally just one schizo who is trying to stir up shit.
Interesting. Looks like the gpt bot is running rampant on multiple boards.
>everyone i dont like is le bot/discord
its realy easy to see which gen is your favorite
I was a Genwunner.
I played the shit out of Gen 2.
My introduction to Gen 3 ruined Pokemon for me.
I toed the waters years later with Alpha Sapphire.
Legends brought the magic back.
in other word your a bort who's trying way too hard to fit in.
Definitely needs work.
It was topped by:
>Crystal
>Emerald
>Platinum
>HGSS
>B2W2
>USUM
>SwSh
>SV
So yes it has been topped and will probably be topped again. A fantastic and highly refreshing entry in the series, but ultimately not a highlight, it is to me perfect proof that diverting from the core Pokemon formula can produce a beautiful game, but most likely cannot surpass any definitive generation titles. Arceus feels as if it’s the lesser two games of a generation, like a Diamond and Pearl that will never receive a Platinum; for all the mature and fascinating new turns that the game takes, there are some glaring flaws that prevent it from reasonably being listed among the definitive generation titles. It sounds so consoomer, but that game could really benefit from a third version/paid DLC more than the average set of games. I think Arceus will age to have a reputation like X and Y, a fun and memorable but relatively empty tale of what could’ve been, with achievements that feel diminished by their better implementation in subsequent titles. If this game is the start of a new side series, I think some amazing things will follow, I hope that future entries feel more definitive. As it stands, Legends is a solid 7/10; great for the Pokemon series at large, but shy of being a valid contender for the God tier sliver of games. As much as it may make people seethe, I’d say it shares a tier with SwSh and SV just below the tier of the other games greentexted above.
Forgot FRLG, slap that one on the greentext
His sole point is SV. Other entries were there to divert attentions.
I /am/ him, I was responding to myself to correct my mistake. My sole point was to give my thoughts on PLA in regards to the series at large. Anyone who buys into the “war” between PLA and SV is brain damaged and not worth factoring into the discussion.
It really is the DLC for me; I definitely could be biased from the fact that I only experienced the definitive edition, but the legendary quests and DLC wild areas felt really nice and like the first glimmer of what I always imagined Pokemon could be. Granted PLA and SV both blew it out of the water in that regard, but it doesn’t change the fact that it was a fun experience. I was getting really tired in the stretch between XY and LGPE, SwSh restored my ability to have fun with the games, I thought there were some fun characters in there, a solid dex, and a fun enough campaign with some great DLC inclusion that made it really feel like exploration for the first time since Unova. I admittedly don’t go looking for nor do I factor in fan discourse to my own experiences, so I was a little shocked to see how brutally people tore the games apart. Aside from cutting the dex (which was always inevitable in my eyes, especially approaching 1000), I struggle to see how the common complaints of that game are exclusive to that game. Like if you think SwSh has bad graphics I’m struggling to believe that you can sincerely think PLA has good graphics, you get what I mean? Pokemon is a series that’s always plagued by the same issues and held back by the same arbitrary limitations, and within that frame I found SwSh to be the first game I wanted to consistently keep playing after I started since B2W2, and that feeling of fresh fun has oozed into both PLA and SV.
They are close to each other, history will remember them so, and so will you once you’re less immediately passionate and more objectively critical.
>SWSH
I prefered PLA to a few games on that list, but SWSH is the only one I can't make a valid case for. What exactly do you think makes it better? I'll admit that I haven't played the DLC, but I found it just a boring slog. Felt like SM 2.0, which was a slap in the face after it was hyped as the new game for hardcore fans.
never don't ever put legends arceus close to SV & trash SWSH -):
>Crystal
Lmao no.
>FRLG & Emerald
Fair.
>Platinum.
They're about equal.
>HGSS
See above.
>B2W2
Lmao no.
>USUM, SWSH, SV.
You have literal brain damage. I've never seen a worse take in my entire life. What level of cuck consumer puts these pieces of shit even near the same level as Emerald, FRLG or PLA?
>What level of cuck consumer puts these pieces of shit even near the same level as Emerald, FRLG or PLA?
Evidently I do, and while I’ll explain myself I doubt you’re interested in hearing me out. I already gave my lengthy SwSh take, but I might as well back up the other two. The 3DS was a horrible era for Pokemon, and USUM was the light at the end of the tunnel. I know there’s a lot of animosity towards genwunners, but I grew up in Pokemania, so call me a cringe consoomer all you want, I enjoyed the massive crossover of the Ultra games, it felt like the right mixture of fan service and original region; a vacation stroll through series history with a notable highlight in Kanto, for an original player it was the perfect end end of the series’ worst era. Traveling through space to battle aliens while Multiverse Giovanni unites all the villains kicks ass, and if you need me to justify that assessment then you have no joy in your life. The PLA vs. SV forced narrative really confuses me when they’re such similar games, I’ve been loving SV for the same reasons I love PLA. The overworld Pokemon interactions, the open environment navigation, the more interesting and personal storylines and character relationships. It’s saying water’s wet to say that the games have their bugs and flaws, but I seem to remember the trainer who can clip through ledges in Emerald or being able to corrupt Yellow into catching Mew, or DP into finding shinies; every game is massively fricked, GF are shit developers through every release, it’s as consistent as their good music. The sheer exploration and freedom of SV makes it a standout entry in the series and, again, you have to have no joy in your life to it concede that point. I’m not a blind consumer who praises GF’s every move, the entire 3DS era and both switch remakes have been garbage, I’m just unafraid to admit that I think they’ve been killing it in their major outings - SwSh, PLA, *and* SV all included.
Crystal & HG/SS are the only ones that deserve green text.
SwSh & SV?? Ah, anon has brain damage
(You) expecting anyone to read all those shit? What are you, Hiatus x Hiatus fan or something?
But muh chimera spin-off arc
Chimera ant arc was fricking awful
>DUDE IT HAS SLOW STATIC IMAGES
>DUDE IT TAKES 10 EPISODES FOR ANYTHING TO HAPPEN IT'S DEEP
>HOLY SHIT THE HUMANS WERE THE REAL MONSTERS? WHAT A TWIST, SO DEEP
Yeah, I am a HxH fan. Also this isn’t the flex you think it is, not sure why morons boldly proclaim that reading 2 paragraphs is a lot to them as if it reflects poorly on me. I’m sorry the Amerifat education system has failed you anon, some day you’ll learn how to read.
>PLA current sales are 13.91 million
>LGPE current sales are 14.81 million
>BDSP current sales are 14.92 million
I honestly think PLA could eventually outsell them both. If they split it into 2 versions then it probably would've.
They already made a bigger open world game for the openworld cultists to play apologetics for.
no
SV already it, sorry but i dont like pla battle shit system
>SV
>listening to critics and random angry incels instead of forming your own opinion
I did
PLA >> SV
and as you can see its not just my opinion
Awful game
Open world was fun but man it got boring quick. I didn't even finish the game because there was actually zero story to keep me hooked. Everything went like "omg! A wild pokemon is rampaging! Go stop it!"
And at one point, I think the fourth or fifth one, they didn't even give you a story reason to go -- the professor was just like "this area. Wild pokemon. Go."
You frickers lied to me when you said this game was good. It's tedious, empy and gets old fast.
I love trying to enjoy the world without getting attacked by every random shitmon they decided to make aggressive for NO REASON. It's like they copy pasted zelda without understanding that the games are fundamentally different even with this moronic taped together mess of a battle system. Every single time you want to engage combat you have to throw the pokeball or catch the Pokemon.
There's no way to heal your character even though you can heal your Pokemon from the menu. What kind of game doesn't let you heal your player character in combat?
All the characters are boring and the story sucks. This is actually the first game that I found myself mashing the A button to get through the story. And I played BW1.
Navigating this game sucks. Why isn't there a mini map? Why did you give the deer a fall damage of 10 feet?
Hope you like being underlevel because when you battle trainers you only get exp at the end, so anyone who died in the fight (and they will die) gets 0 exp. Why?
Shit game. SV is a bugged mess but at least I had fun.
Holy based anon, you took the words out of my mouth. It feels so weird seeing the discourse around this game, I’m glad there are other people who weren’t poisoned by the kool-aid.
Do you also have 0 attachment to Sinnoh? Because I’m really starting to think it’s some kind of weird nostalgia thing going on with these people that’s blinding them. Are Sinnohfetuses the second wave of Genwunners in terms of prominence and blindness to quality so long as their generation is being pandered to?
>Holy based anon, you took the words out of my mouth. It feels so weird seeing the discourse around this game, I’m glad there are other people who weren’t poisoned by the kool-aid.
Seriously I wanted it to be good. It's not like I wanted to waste my money on a shit game. By the way people described it you'd think it was OOT or something.
>Do you also have 0 attachment to Sinnoh?
Yeah, actually. I don't have anything against gen 4 but I grew up with crystal and RSE.
enjoy your shit "game" personally I like my game to have actual scaling that doesn't punish the player for their shit battle system. And I did win the fights by the way, they were just wholly uninteresting back and forth. Anyone can beat the game since most trainers have a max of 4 Pokemon
>Hope you like being underlevel because when you battle trainers you only get exp at the end, so anyone who died in the fight (and they will die) gets 0 exp. Why?
If you can't win fights underleveled then your opinions don't matter. Get the frick out of /vp/.
>he can't handle a little bit of challenge and has to steamroll everything and have everything handed out to him on a silver platter
no wonder the franchise has gone to shit since they cater to morons like you
your game is boring shit with a shit battle system. No one bought it. Cope.
>You frickers lied to me when you said this game was good.
You're on a contrarian website. Nobody with a sane mind would praise PLA while shitting on SV.
For arguments sake, lets assume it is one of the best games to date. Despite that, it sold less than a no effort remake (BDSP), that was developed by a third party. Gamefreak has no incentive to do another PLA, it takes significantly more effort and results in less profit.