What a crock of shit.
Around the time of BFA it was known that only around 1 mil players were active at that time from leaks that blizzard had to force modders to fix instantly because it broke the "WE FINE!" narrative.
And Classic had hurdles more parses than retail but still never added up to 3 mil.
???? are you moronic? you can't see the numbers???
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I can photoshop something quick in 2 minutes and make a 3rd graph below if you want.
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Anonymous
that's a screencap from GDC you absolute moron
jesus christ you're dumber than a box of rocks
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Anonymous
The second one isn't you turboBlack person.
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Anonymous
Top (no Y-axis) is from GDC. Bottom is from Bellular speculating based on WoD numbers, also doesn't account for the change in Chinese sub structure between the last WoD report and Legion.
Also, >no vertical line down when WoW shut down in China
The GDC graph isn't even accounting for everything.
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You realize the 2nd image is an edit right?
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Anonymous
i linked you the actual image not the graph bellular made. classic was losing players fast. tbh it's understandable, an older version of the game with no new content can only offer you nostalgia, and that doesn't last long
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>YOUTUBER SAID...!
see
[...]
[...]
[...]
Suicide video when? Make it exciting!
Yes, they lie pretty much about everything. And if you play 4 of their games you count as 4 MAU, so if some moron playes retail, SOD, classic and worlk classic I'm sure they're counting it as 4 different people
>Around the time of BFA it was known that only around 1 mil players were active
Can we see the source for that? >from leaks that blizzard
My dad too works at Blizzard and said this is wrong
Not spoonfeeding something that was widely known and spammed all over Ganker for a whole year just because you're a newbie or a butthurt drone trying to play defense on Ganker of all places like that will win WoW brownie points.
have a nice day NOW!
Reminder that when questioned about fans wanting WoW Classic, J.Allen Brack said "You think you do, but you don't."
Devs don't know shit about fan demand.
Yep. Consumers know what they want, but not how. That's what you need to figure otu and why you shouldn't listen to consumers beyond what grabs their atention.
>If we listened to the demands the consumer make on how to make climbing more engaging and accesible for everyone, the solution would be to make the world flat
classic was declining faster than every other expansion. it was the hype for shadowlands (even if it turned out shit later) that made up for the player loss
I barely PvP aside from shit like early SL because my BiS trinket came from it. Blizzard speedran MoP's patches to stick us on SoO for nearly a year and a half, it was fricking moronic.
the only thing from that era i was sorry i missed was being able to cast while moving. still can't believe they went back on that shit because pvp homosexuals cried.
The important part here is the fact that everything prior to classic had those numbers ALONE, while the numbers now are retail + classic + SoD + HC if that's still alive. Removing all the classic variant subs from the equation would probably cut the subs down by around 40% (if you take parsing stats into account), we will obviously never know the actual sub count but it's nowhere near the numbers WoW pulled before, BUT investors doesn't fricking understand this so they're probably happy
>if you take parsing stats into account
Parsing stats are unreliable, less boss kills in retail because Heroic is kind of useless and Mythic is way harder plus guilds extending often end up with no kills, contributing nothing to those numbers. Unless you have an actual number of reports rather than the parse count from statistics, they can't be compared 1-to-1, and that goes from retail to classic to xiv, and even report count has to be framed around the group size.
???? are you moronic? you can't see the numbers???
This whole thing is based on two massive assumptions >the y-axis cleanly starts at 0 >the first data point on the graph aligns with the last reported sub/player number
Neither of which are close to guaranteed to be true.
Remember as always: if the numbers looked good, they wouldn't be shy about telling you what they were.
Indeed, they have one number they show off which is "total registered accounts". It can only go up and is naturally a big impressive number. The only other insight available are third-party survey sights and the fact that the servers couldn't handle EW launch.
Registered accounts is playing with numbers just like Blizzard did with Chinese subs for years to get their 12M headline. XIV has a lot of registrations because the free trial is huge.
>they wouldn't be shy about telling you what they were
I don't think we'll ever see actual numbers out of WoW again because they know it'll always get compared to that 12 million they announced in Wrath. They're definitely not shy when they have some way to say "fastest ever" for sure though. We would 100% know if WoW was at 7 million subs or if classic brought back 4 million players like
Genuinely it seems like Dragonflight turned things around gay frogs not withstanding. Seems like most people enjoyed it to some extent, wonder if War Within will be as good.
t. quit at BFA but read user experiences, will hop back in if War Within gets positive reviews from users
I love that a game that gets no updates and is just the old version of the game is padding numbers high, and the army of devs working on the new shit are damaging it and the cause of the player losses.
So where are the NUMBERS!?
I too can say my life is doing great and post lines go up without context and demand you accept the lines go up.
Also the US and DOW are doing great! LOOK AT LINE GO UP!
API said player count was under a million in late 2019 for wow specifically. So now we know that these are that fricking made up metric of "monthly active users" where they combine anyone who uses battle.net for any game counting as a wow 'subscriber'.
i bet they count anyone who logs in to a character even if they aren't paying a sub and don't even play lol. gee what's with all these accounts with gibbiersh names and only a single level 1 character that only logs in once a month????? hmmmm
Personally I think people are underestimating Cata and that it will be surprisingly good to many. A lot of people will realise pretty fast that Cata was considered bad before because it took the leap into what we consider to be retail wow, the content got harder, the world changed, talent overhaul, etc etc.. made a lot of the older "classic" players quit, but nowadays I think there's a lot of people that will actually enjoy it. Early Cata pvp as warrior.. nobody can deny that wasn't kino. But I raided almost every single day in classic wotlk with a shit ton of random people and I never heard anyone say they're even trying classic Cata if it releases, so you're probably right
every expansion could be vastly improved by a few changes and a compressed patch schedule, blizzard has been really bad at identifying those changes tho
Cata was the beginning of the homogenized horseshit retail became. the game only got noticeable spikes when classic was playable again because that's what WoW is, that's what made this game so popular, not blizz making the level up process so braindead a 3 year old could do it but then focusing everything on "endgame" parsing raidlog autism.
You know shits bad for retail when classic and retail numbers are both combined on that chart. >M+ is still a failed e-sport the majority of players don't wanna play >retail pvp is still a failed e-sport the majority of players don't wanna play >retail raiding is still a failed e-sport the majority of players don't wanna play >class balance is balanced around the failed e-sport
SoD from my understanding is still poping off and whatever the frick Wrath? I think classic is in still at the lich king? That shits most likely retail levels of population. I think the only other thing is hardcore which is pretty dead.
TBC was the real beginning of the end of WoW because it focused entirely on endgame raiding autism and turned the entire game into that where leveling only existed as a way to pad out your sub time with no real effort put into it to make it fun or engaging at all, just making it take as long as possible. gays just don't want to admit it because old good new bad and most of these morons never played vanilla, they're all wrath babies when the game turned into giving normies welfare epix so they could LARP as hardcore MMO players.
the only good part of WoW is leveling in vanilla, everything else is trash
i don’t think anyone defends tbc without major caveats, classic proved nobody even wants to play it, as soon as tbc came out people started asking for legacy servers
even before TBC once it got to the point where servers were mostly max level people raidlogging everyone was begging blizzard for more fresh classic servers
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I maintain that the real appeal of WoW back in the day was how much smaller and more integrated that community (people who would play a WoW MMO and were able to) was. Logging on and meeting people was cooler when there was a higher chance that that person would be relevant in your actual life or had relatively similar lived experiences as you. Back when it was a white or east asian male's game.
IIRC most players didnt hit 60 until TBC back then
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IIRC most players didnt hit 60 until TBC back then
>once it got to the point where servers were mostly max level people raidlogging everyone was begging blizzard for more fresh classic servers
This is like circular reasoning. They're chasing some sort of classic or OG WoW experience without being able to identify what it is (in part because if they did, they'd be called racist).
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i just think it gets back to leveling in classic being the only fun part of WoW. leveling in TBC and WotLK was just there to pad out your sub time and Cata totally fricked the leveling experience by making it too easy and boring but still too slow so everyone just levels in dungeon finder. it's insane to me they don't have yearly seasonal servers focused on the leveling experience with different modifiers to spice it up ala Diablo.
like the whole Hardcore fad shows that leveling is the only thing people care about really but also that people want the leveling experience to be more challenging. it's just Hardcore makes you play in a really gay boring way and the entire concept of permadeath in a MMO is moronic.
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That's part of it, but you're stuck thinking about how mechanics will appeal to the right people. If the game had focused on appealing to the right people (white/east asian males) from the start, the mechanics would naturally follow.
>as soon as tbc came out people started asking for legacy servers
I can't speak for anyone else, but as a TBCbabby I skipped TBC Classic because >No fresh servers so the economy was still fricked from Classic >Activision shit with the level boost + paid mount >The community was already too sweaty coming off of Classic
I was actually really excited for it at first.
It also has to do with the times.
There was no GDKP bullshit comparable to how it is now.
People formed groups/guilds and didn't buy every raid item with real money.
I maintain that the real appeal of WoW back in the day was how much smaller and more integrated that community (people who would play a WoW MMO and were able to) was. Logging on and meeting people was cooler when there was a higher chance that that person would be relevant in your actual life or had relatively similar lived experiences as you. Back when it was a white or east asian male's game.
>Truths
The best part of classic was leveling and finding a group of friends to run 5 man stuff with. Once you got to og wow endgame running the dungeons was SO much fun. Then you decided you needed to do 'the next step' and try raiding and then the fun went completely downhill. Herding cats and dealing with morons just made us hate the game. Then TBC came and pissed on all of it. Honestly I wish current wow would just make a separate channel for progression for solo, duo, 5 man shit, even open world progression. Raiding shouldn't be the only 'endgame', it's so stale.
the more people you have to coordinate with longterm, the worse the MMO experience gets. a group of like 5-10 isn't too bad but guilds, raids, etc. are fricking dumb and a mistake.
>WoWcucks are gonna spam this graph that was already proven fake for the next year
I guess when you have to compete with the king, you are forced to make shit up.
Glad XIV mindbroke these losers lol
100% there are morons falling for it, most people have a very poor understanding of statistics and data presentation.
??? the numbers are true and verified THOUGH
https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/world-of-warcraft-finds-resilience-with-over-7-million-players-in-the-lead-up-to-the-the-war-within-expansion
They are actually falling for it. Not one of these content creators have brought up the Chinese sub change between WoD and Legion that would've fricked with that count and made the last WoD number totally unreliable going into Legion.
Blizzard counted subs based on the per minute pricing that China was playing on where anyone who had any time left on their account would be counted as a sub. In 2016, the Chinese sub switched to monthly and conveniently their official sub count announcements ended at the same time.
Ah so that’s why Blizzdrones feel the need to spam a blatantly fake graph? Because their main competitor is doing worse than them?
Seems totally reasonable
why doesnt the graph mention the shutdown in china?
The better question is "why does the graph start after WoW has already died?"
>We're doing as shitty as 10 years ago"
HMMM. Zoom out the chart a little I think we missed something.
cope
We fricking won!!! LETS GOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FFXIV in shambles KEK they probably only have 1m subs or less
What a crock of shit.
Around the time of BFA it was known that only around 1 mil players were active at that time from leaks that blizzard had to force modders to fix instantly because it broke the "WE FINE!" narrative.
And Classic had hurdles more parses than retail but still never added up to 3 mil.
>dude blizzard is straight up lying on the big GDC scene!
you anti-wow cultists are something else.
>dude blizzard is straight up lying
YES, YES, YES!
Point me at place on that graph where it shows player numbers. I'll wait.
???? are you moronic? you can't see the numbers???
I can photoshop something quick in 2 minutes and make a 3rd graph below if you want.
that's a screencap from GDC you absolute moron
jesus christ you're dumber than a box of rocks
The second one isn't you turboBlack person.
Top (no Y-axis) is from GDC. Bottom is from Bellular speculating based on WoD numbers, also doesn't account for the change in Chinese sub structure between the last WoD report and Legion.
Also,
>no vertical line down when WoW shut down in China
The GDC graph isn't even accounting for everything.
You realize the 2nd image is an edit right?
i linked you the actual image not the graph bellular made. classic was losing players fast. tbh it's understandable, an older version of the game with no new content can only offer you nostalgia, and that doesn't last long
>YOUTUBER SAID...!
see
>blizzard has never lied
OHHHH HO HO HO HOH HOOHO!
I BEG YOU TO DELETE THIS STOP MAKING FUN OF ME AGGHHH IM GOING BACK TO FFXIV XHISTERS!!!
Yes, they lie pretty much about everything. And if you play 4 of their games you count as 4 MAU, so if some moron playes retail, SOD, classic and worlk classic I'm sure they're counting it as 4 different people
>Around the time of BFA it was known that only around 1 mil players were active
Can we see the source for that?
>from leaks that blizzard
My dad too works at Blizzard and said this is wrong
Not spoonfeeding something that was widely known and spammed all over Ganker for a whole year just because you're a newbie or a butthurt drone trying to play defense on Ganker of all places like that will win WoW brownie points.
have a nice day NOW!
Got it, your full of shit. Enjoy seeking your next doompost dopamine hit, lmao
Reminder that when questioned about fans wanting WoW Classic, J.Allen Brack said "You think you do, but you don't."
Devs don't know shit about fan demand.
Fans know best when it comes to what the players actually want.
Devs job is to know the best way to implement it
Yep. Consumers know what they want, but not how. That's what you need to figure otu and why you shouldn't listen to consumers beyond what grabs their atention.
>If we listened to the demands the consumer make on how to make climbing more engaging and accesible for everyone, the solution would be to make the world flat
>engaging and accesible for everyone
no one has ever said this but companies reddit spacing strawmanner.
He was right though, classic lost 90% of its players within a month
look at the graph:
classic was declining faster than every other expansion. it was the hype for shadowlands (even if it turned out shit later) that made up for the player loss
>lost 90%
>Can't prove it
Cool i accept your concession. Now you can seethe all you want homosexual i don't care.
Suicide video when? Make it exciting!
i cant even imagine how miserable you are irl
>MOP has the lowest subscriber count in old-wow era even less than legion
>is constantly shilled as one of the best expansions
explain this phenomenon
wrath and cata did a ton of damage to the game
MoP's concept/setting filtered a bunch of people but the content was top-notch if you actually tried it.
MoP was the peak of button bloat and "everyone can do everything", and SoO patch dragged on for way too long. It's just propped up by furries.
t. mazed pvp player
I barely PvP aside from shit like early SL because my BiS trinket came from it. Blizzard speedran MoP's patches to stick us on SoO for nearly a year and a half, it was fricking moronic.
the only thing from that era i was sorry i missed was being able to cast while moving. still can't believe they went back on that shit because pvp homosexuals cried.
The important part here is the fact that everything prior to classic had those numbers ALONE, while the numbers now are retail + classic + SoD + HC if that's still alive. Removing all the classic variant subs from the equation would probably cut the subs down by around 40% (if you take parsing stats into account), we will obviously never know the actual sub count but it's nowhere near the numbers WoW pulled before, BUT investors doesn't fricking understand this so they're probably happy
>if you take parsing stats into account
Parsing stats are unreliable, less boss kills in retail because Heroic is kind of useless and Mythic is way harder plus guilds extending often end up with no kills, contributing nothing to those numbers. Unless you have an actual number of reports rather than the parse count from statistics, they can't be compared 1-to-1, and that goes from retail to classic to xiv, and even report count has to be framed around the group size.
>the y-axes are definitely the aame scale
Sure thing, mate
This whole thing is based on two massive assumptions
>the y-axis cleanly starts at 0
>the first data point on the graph aligns with the last reported sub/player number
Neither of which are close to guaranteed to be true.
Remember as always: if the numbers looked good, they wouldn't be shy about telling you what they were.
not even xiv says its numbers
Indeed, they have one number they show off which is "total registered accounts". It can only go up and is naturally a big impressive number. The only other insight available are third-party survey sights and the fact that the servers couldn't handle EW launch.
how incredibly dishonest
Registered accounts is playing with numbers just like Blizzard did with Chinese subs for years to get their 12M headline. XIV has a lot of registrations because the free trial is huge.
>they wouldn't be shy about telling you what they were
I don't think we'll ever see actual numbers out of WoW again because they know it'll always get compared to that 12 million they announced in Wrath. They're definitely not shy when they have some way to say "fastest ever" for sure though. We would 100% know if WoW was at 7 million subs or if classic brought back 4 million players like
shows.
>2 nostalgia bait modes
Please consider killing yourself.
Genuinely it seems like Dragonflight turned things around gay frogs not withstanding. Seems like most people enjoyed it to some extent, wonder if War Within will be as good.
t. quit at BFA but read user experiences, will hop back in if War Within gets positive reviews from users
those people aren’t playing dragonflight
classic is padding the numbers
>world of warcraft is padding world of warcraft's numbers
so you're admitting expansions are irrelevant to this graph
fixed if you remove classic and similar oldy versions of the game, the actual relevance of expansions and player numbers
You think you want it, but thank god we added it or we would be dead now.
I love that a game that gets no updates and is just the old version of the game is padding numbers high, and the army of devs working on the new shit are damaging it and the cause of the player losses.
>everybody's playing Classic, that means Retail is doing good
Not the subtlest israelite, are you, OP?
>squiggly lines
Wow, it's fricking nothing. How about actual numbers?
>There are still "people" who pay 10$ EVERY MONTH to play an online game
>the game isn't even good
So where are the NUMBERS!?
I too can say my life is doing great and post lines go up without context and demand you accept the lines go up.
Also the US and DOW are doing great! LOOK AT LINE GO UP!
15 US and 20 CAD
may be the worst pic ive ever seen on Ganker
Now it takes 4 products to generate the same interest as 1 product
>Retail BTFO by classic
>All the lines go up is when a classic release goes out
>RETAIL WON BAAY BEE!
Add Guild Wars (1) to that pile and I feel that
This thing is pure cope, for all we know they have counted each service as an additional sub or just done some additional bs.
So a classic and retail player will be counted twice for example, these numbers have no fact checking to them.
API said player count was under a million in late 2019 for wow specifically. So now we know that these are that fricking made up metric of "monthly active users" where they combine anyone who uses battle.net for any game counting as a wow 'subscriber'.
NOOOOOOOO LINE SAYS GOOD!
i bet they count anyone who logs in to a character even if they aren't paying a sub and don't even play lol. gee what's with all these accounts with gibbiersh names and only a single level 1 character that only logs in once a month????? hmmmm
asmongold won
Now show the pre-Cataclysm numbers
>no y axis
yeah it's worthless
YoshiPiss sisters our response???!!!
there's only 1 version of classic that's relevant: sod and even that is dying
>hc dead
>era dead
>wotlk is over
>p2 of sod was shit
i think it's really funny they're going to go through with Cata and Draenor even though no one will play either of them just to get to MoP and Legion
Personally I think people are underestimating Cata and that it will be surprisingly good to many. A lot of people will realise pretty fast that Cata was considered bad before because it took the leap into what we consider to be retail wow, the content got harder, the world changed, talent overhaul, etc etc.. made a lot of the older "classic" players quit, but nowadays I think there's a lot of people that will actually enjoy it. Early Cata pvp as warrior.. nobody can deny that wasn't kino. But I raided almost every single day in classic wotlk with a shit ton of random people and I never heard anyone say they're even trying classic Cata if it releases, so you're probably right
every expansion could be vastly improved by a few changes and a compressed patch schedule, blizzard has been really bad at identifying those changes tho
Cata was the beginning of the homogenized horseshit retail became. the game only got noticeable spikes when classic was playable again because that's what WoW is, that's what made this game so popular, not blizz making the level up process so braindead a 3 year old could do it but then focusing everything on "endgame" parsing raidlog autism.
cata is more similar to wrath than what came after
i still want mop more
You know shits bad for retail when classic and retail numbers are both combined on that chart.
>M+ is still a failed e-sport the majority of players don't wanna play
>retail pvp is still a failed e-sport the majority of players don't wanna play
>retail raiding is still a failed e-sport the majority of players don't wanna play
>class balance is balanced around the failed e-sport
Do people still even play classic? I figured it was 90% retail
SoD from my understanding is still poping off and whatever the frick Wrath? I think classic is in still at the lich king? That shits most likely retail levels of population. I think the only other thing is hardcore which is pretty dead.
>no actual numbers
>No actual numbers.
>Just vague promise of growth.
>Not using the known OG Wrath as a base point.
Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
"Endgame built around instanced content" formula is outdated and boring.
>They unironically think the Low point is 4mil subs
>In Reality its more like 40,000.
lol, lmao
Shadowlands was given away with video cards so it's probably lower than 3.7m
>classic was the biggest sub count spike the game ever had
>classic TBC barely even nudges the line
>classic wotlk doesn't affect it at all
classic wow was so misshandled it's unreal lmao. I can't believe we all thought it would actually be better than private servers.
wow2 should just be a new expansion built on classic
there will never be a wow2
the only good part of classic was leveling
raiding went into full turboautism mode with all this class meta and worldbuffs shit
TBC was the real beginning of the end of WoW because it focused entirely on endgame raiding autism and turned the entire game into that where leveling only existed as a way to pad out your sub time with no real effort put into it to make it fun or engaging at all, just making it take as long as possible. gays just don't want to admit it because old good new bad and most of these morons never played vanilla, they're all wrath babies when the game turned into giving normies welfare epix so they could LARP as hardcore MMO players.
the only good part of WoW is leveling in vanilla, everything else is trash
i don’t think anyone defends tbc without major caveats, classic proved nobody even wants to play it, as soon as tbc came out people started asking for legacy servers
even before TBC once it got to the point where servers were mostly max level people raidlogging everyone was begging blizzard for more fresh classic servers
IIRC most players didnt hit 60 until TBC back then
>once it got to the point where servers were mostly max level people raidlogging everyone was begging blizzard for more fresh classic servers
This is like circular reasoning. They're chasing some sort of classic or OG WoW experience without being able to identify what it is (in part because if they did, they'd be called racist).
i just think it gets back to leveling in classic being the only fun part of WoW. leveling in TBC and WotLK was just there to pad out your sub time and Cata totally fricked the leveling experience by making it too easy and boring but still too slow so everyone just levels in dungeon finder. it's insane to me they don't have yearly seasonal servers focused on the leveling experience with different modifiers to spice it up ala Diablo.
like the whole Hardcore fad shows that leveling is the only thing people care about really but also that people want the leveling experience to be more challenging. it's just Hardcore makes you play in a really gay boring way and the entire concept of permadeath in a MMO is moronic.
That's part of it, but you're stuck thinking about how mechanics will appeal to the right people. If the game had focused on appealing to the right people (white/east asian males) from the start, the mechanics would naturally follow.
>as soon as tbc came out people started asking for legacy servers
I can't speak for anyone else, but as a TBCbabby I skipped TBC Classic because
>No fresh servers so the economy was still fricked from Classic
>Activision shit with the level boost + paid mount
>The community was already too sweaty coming off of Classic
I was actually really excited for it at first.
It also has to do with the times.
There was no GDKP bullshit comparable to how it is now.
People formed groups/guilds and didn't buy every raid item with real money.
I maintain that the real appeal of WoW back in the day was how much smaller and more integrated that community (people who would play a WoW MMO and were able to) was. Logging on and meeting people was cooler when there was a higher chance that that person would be relevant in your actual life or had relatively similar lived experiences as you. Back when it was a white or east asian male's game.
>Truths
The best part of classic was leveling and finding a group of friends to run 5 man stuff with. Once you got to og wow endgame running the dungeons was SO much fun. Then you decided you needed to do 'the next step' and try raiding and then the fun went completely downhill. Herding cats and dealing with morons just made us hate the game. Then TBC came and pissed on all of it. Honestly I wish current wow would just make a separate channel for progression for solo, duo, 5 man shit, even open world progression. Raiding shouldn't be the only 'endgame', it's so stale.
the more people you have to coordinate with longterm, the worse the MMO experience gets. a group of like 5-10 isn't too bad but guilds, raids, etc. are fricking dumb and a mistake.
And you think nu Blizzard could do a good job doing that why?
This is more accurate
now compare it with every other mmo
player numbers will take another massive dip because they move on to cataclyzm and refuse to give us a wotlk server
Riot's mmo will kill Shitzzard for good
>Riot's mmo
fake and gay
>still the MMO kingmaker
>8 million subs btw.
Suuuure.
the chart that destroyed asmongold...
>destroyed
he doesn't need jack shit apart from his horde of zombies now
Reminder that a israeli CEO has more in common with the average israelite than with a white CEO
White people are still greedy as frick.
And a israeli society made them that way - and israelites are still greedier.
>WoWcucks are gonna spam this graph that was already proven fake for the next year
I guess when you have to compete with the king, you are forced to make shit up.
Glad XIV mindbroke these losers lol
Same.
>SL so bad even TBCC and WotLKC couldn't save the game
>7 million subs
>BEFORE they got china back (confirmed to be in the works)
if you want wow to die you better pray for world war 3 with china
I seriously can’t tell if morons are actually falling for this or if this one big shill psyop
100% there are morons falling for it, most people have a very poor understanding of statistics and data presentation.
??? the numbers are true and verified THOUGH
https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/world-of-warcraft-finds-resilience-with-over-7-million-players-in-the-lead-up-to-the-the-war-within-expansion
>PAX
the bot that generated this article didn't even get the right event
>an analysis from BellularGaming that the game has roughly over 7.25 million active subscribers
>Via /u/Kevombat on Reddit
reddit summary bot masquerading as news
>written by Alexander COPE
kek wowgays do be like that
same people who fall for apple's performance graphs with no y axis
They are actually falling for it. Not one of these content creators have brought up the Chinese sub change between WoD and Legion that would've fricked with that count and made the last WoD number totally unreliable going into Legion.
>last WoD number totally unreliable going into Legion.
Qrd?
blizzard was padding the numbers with chink prepaid cards that had 2 minutes left
Blizzard counted subs based on the per minute pricing that China was playing on where anyone who had any time left on their account would be counted as a sub. In 2016, the Chinese sub switched to monthly and conveniently their official sub count announcements ended at the same time.
It really is crazy, huh. All Blizzard has to do is show how many people are subscribed monthly or more.
So... WoW never actually had 12 million subs?
Not monthly subs, no. Read "Subscriber definition" here: https://investor.activision.com/news-releases/news-release-details/world-warcraftr-subscriber-base-reaches-12-million-worldwide
>all this spam shilling because XIV is doing well
God I can’t wait for DT release to absolutely break this board
>XIV doing well
>latest player census was 1 million players
Ah so that’s why Blizzdrones feel the need to spam a blatantly fake graph? Because their main competitor is doing worse than them?
Seems totally reasonable
>imagine still playing wow in 2024