>still the best expansion.
will Dawntrail be better?
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I love HW MSQ, but the expansion itself was shit and the worst
Diadem was the most hilarious failure and they tried it twice.
Alliance Raids sucked
Nothing to do
Weeping City and Dun Scaith were great.
Yeah the revisionism is funny. HW is probably the best example of a pretty bad expansion being excused and praised in hindsight for its story.
>Alliance Raids sucked
Mhach and Nier are the only two alliances that sometimes wipe raids.
>muh ivalice
Worst story, corny music, entirely carried by gear that looks cute on lalafell
>ivalice gear looking good on anyone
You'll have to prove me wrong with images because that's a horseshit statement.
>same actress as Athena
Was legitimately shocked, she played the Icelandic accent like Fran very well considering her real voice is SHOW ME YOUR ALL THAT I MIGHT BECOME DIVINITY MANIFEST.
>DA WOWLD SHALL TWEMBLE
The Jap VA for Athena is also Tataru's one too. Weird now that I think of it yet oddly fitting.
English VA for Krile is also the VA for Suzako, the firebird who wants to frick you in the Four Lords trial series because she sees you as a reincarnation of her former lover Tenzen as he was the former holder of the Azem shard before his death
>You'll have to prove me wrong with images because that's a horseshit statement.
It’s all designed for chibi bodies
this is what we call lalashit delusion
I’m at work, so I can’t give better pictures, other than the ones I took to show off my yard (terror of the ishgardian housing association)
What? The gear sucked because they used the male versions
accurate.
>MEMBER IVALICE?!?!?!
Is just as dogshit as Nier. I wish they never do such direct references for any raid series again.
>wish they never do it again
>ff11 raid series next
Oof
The basedjacking of shadowlord was enough to convince me it'll be shit.
Arcadian pls don't be garbage
I don't get posts like these. Every expansion has the same overarching formula for content.
do people not remember how shit HW was at launch
No because they're all wowtrannies that started post 5.3 at best
It was a comfy story experience because it was much better paced than ARR. Of course there's ups/downs, a major down being how much of a shitshow the raiding scene was. But hey, I found a new niche back in 2016.
>much better paced
>literally not enough MSQ quests at launch, go do side quests or run Vault (people sucked at Vault)
shadowzygotes don't know how good they have it
I don't miss HW and I never will.
actually, Stormblood was the best expansion if you enjoy GAMEPLAY in your GAMES
Almost, but nah. They went crazy with the wall bosses this expansion which suck hard. Dungeons were great and gameplay changes were a good balance between the jank-but-interesting ideas before it and the QoL and accessibility direction going forward.
I'll take wall bosses in the experimental middle floors and 1 wall final boss with a small hitbox over 2 wall final bosses the size of the arena.
Best MSQ: HW
Most content: SB
Best Trials: ShB
Best Raids: ShB
Best Alliance: SB
Best Dungeons: Vanilla
>Best Trials: ShB
>Best Raids: ShB
>Best Dungeons: Vanilla
kys
>best trials
That belongs to Stormblood.
>Best Dungeons
Criterion
>Best MSQ: HW
Overall, with all patches, I agree
>Most content: SB
True
>Best Trials: ShB
eeh, I'm not sure about that one. Could be.
>Best Raids: ShB
True
>Best Alliance: SB
And Real
>Spoiler
All dungeons are dogshit.
>Best Raids: ShB
SB > EW > ShB
Best zones: ARR
Without flying of course
Absolutely no expansion that has multiple wall bosses deserves "Best Trials." Wall bosses are lame design and you're part of the reason CBU3 standardizes boredom.
Wall bosses are based for making casuals seethe
I like boss-positioning as a strategic and tactical elements and I think it's core to this style of MMO fight design. Leaning more on the side of immobile bosses is super dull to me. You can do cool wall-bosses, but keep them limited.
I thought you meant like Omega MF, Exdeath, etc
>MSQ
ShB > HW > EW > SB > Vanilla
>Trials
HW > EW > ShB > Vanilla > SB
>Raids
HW > SB > Vanilla > EW > ShB
>Alliances
SB >>> ShB > HW > EW > Vanilla (i love WoD though)
>Dungeons
Vanilla = HW > SB > ShB > EW
>Dungeons
>ShB not last
frick off.
Mt Gulg big pull is something that doesn't exist in EW.
I expected a shit response and you didn't disappoint.
Tower of Zot? Between second and third boss?
Buddy that pull was doable during Early Access, with a bit of gear it's nothing.
Shadowbringers has two good dungeons, Mt. Gulg and Amaurot. Qitana Ravel has incredible music though.
Endwalker on the other hand has... ?
d e a d e n d s
Amaurot is one of the worst dungeons in the entire game. You shadowbabies are pathetic. None of the bosses are good. The trash just teleport on you in the first two thirds of it. It fricking sucks.
The telporting ones are the worst. If everyone is sprinting you can just run past them without them spawning, then you have to slowly walk back and grab them.
I love how shitbringer fanboys default to endwalker bashing. It's the only two expacs you played.
ps. Endwalker has better dungeons by a mile. EW only has 2-3 meh dungeons while ShB only has 2-3 good ones.
What game is that picture from?
Final Fantasy 14 An Academy Reborn
Explain
>anon ranks ShB > EW at the bottom of dungeons
>ShB fanboys still think their game is the second worst
The world you live in is more fun than the world I live in
arent the meh ew dungeons all the patch ones?
>trials
>stormblood last
You are filth and I want you off my fricking island.
You never invited me to your island sanctuary, anon. I can't even see it 🙁
I meant La Noscea.
Now delineate between launch and patch MSQ, because that moves placements around alot
Replace ShB with SB and you will be right
HeavenswarS MSQ was really, really mediocre. It's why FF16 sucked wiener when the writer went and made that shitty story too.
SHB and even EW 6.0 was much better. I mean, SHB indisputably gave us the best character in the series.
>HeavenswarS MSQ was really, really mediocre. It's why FF16 sucked wiener when the writer went and made that shitty story too.
holy frick based take
I will never forgive the people who told me HW had the best story because holy frick was it even more mid than ARR's msq which I didn't even think was possible
You dont really like political medieval stories do you
I like GOOD political medieval stories
not whatever tf HW was
Anon, I am not happy WoW is dying either. I expected you to have ar least 5 more years together. But canceling blizzcon is pretty clear sign that you should enjoy the time you have left with it
Maehiro is just kind of a hack, he can't write a female character without them either being killed or raped
at least she died smiling
>beat expansion
>never get the heaven sward
0/10
don't think I've ever played an ffxiv expansion for more than a month
they're also so fricking shit and lacking at launch
never any content besides msq
actually, Shadowbringers was the best expansion if you enjoy STORY in your GAMES
but I found the majority of Shadowbringers story to be boring shite.
>muh Shadowbringers has a good story
Frick off. It's like 50% filler with a bunch of new characters that I'm supposed to give a shit about. Only the bits with Ardbert and Emet were good, and that was like 10% of the story.
>Frick off. It's like 50% filler
The filler is good tho.
no lol
I enjoyed all the side beats except the strange aside about the mental catman mayor who broke down after his family got sin eater’s. Including Rakitika and the Trolley.
>he doesn't want new characters
>he loves the scions
>people have forgotten how dire it was after 3.1 came out and almost killed the game when it actually had no content for 8 months
This was before DC-wide PF too so if you were on a lower population server you had to transfer or just quit because there were maybe 3-4 up at prime time on weekends if you were lucky
are you ready for elezen domination
It's happening
I'm sticking to viera. Everyone says their toon looked bad in the benchmark but that's just a skill issue. My character was fine because black don't crack
34 fricking minutes
what the frick is wrong with people?
We don't know skill names. We don't know what they do. Just saw a few animations.
i hope they kill draGOON because it will be FUNNY
don't beg for them to ruin my job because of one clickbaiting moron
Even if Dawntrail is better, you and those like you, will still claim HW was better.
Dawntrail actually looks like it will be a kino adventure.
SB had the best raids hands down. And Xenos is the best villain
>HW
>best anything
it's by far the shortest MSQ
The worst zones (rocks in the sky for 3 areas wow how fricking insane)
half the jobs launched in an unplayable state and 1/3 of the jobs remained unplayable
Gordias was dogshit
Void Ark was dogshit
Diadem was a crime against humanity
Crafting was made a pain in the ass (anyone remembers yield 1 potions? good times)
The entirety of the game was just ARF runs over and over
I guess a lot more effort was put into Au Ra and HW jobs than into later jobs and races but pretty much nothing of HW job design remains at this point
Heavensward is still the best expansion and the only time the game had something of a skill ceiling. Lot of people who hate on HW are people are shadowbabies or endbryos who LARP as if they were there at the expansion.
>when you pull off 3 Fell Cleaves in Heavensward
overall the game plays better today imo, they just made tanks boring as frick now.
Don't forget OG dark knight before they gutted it
the only thing HW did better than any other expac is job design, and even then some jobs were fricked up like PLD
What's the word on the new EU datacenter? I'm probably rolling there since I assume there's going to be an exp bonus, but I don't want to be accidentally roll on an "unofficial" German or, may god forgive for uttering these words, Fr*nch server.
>exp boner
just pre-order DT and get the earrings, play on Zodiark or Twintania for english speakers on light.
So is that annoying b***h from the last few patch quests gonna be the Lyse of Dawntrail?
Yes
Dear god no. Her VA is so much worse than Lyse's too
Switch to JP already
Everyone else is superior.
Then perish
This. I like the NA dub. I'm not gonna switch to the worse version for literally ONE voice.
I'm just gonna have to suffer through Woke Lemutt, and hope it isn't in every fricking cutscene.
>NA dub
The only murrican va is the troony that voices wuk, everyone else is british
Well post-ARR anyway
yeah my bad i brainfarted
i meant EN dub
and thank frick it isn't actually NA aside from troonlemao
>The only murrican va is the troony
Why am I not surprised?
You are welcome
>amerimutt EN wuk is troony
>not even convincing female voice
>every other lang is fem and feminine
Why SE, why...
Kate. That's why
>bong VA gets the full gammit of regional accents
>even tying specifically regions of the world to real-life accents, providing an element of depth and life to the world
>VA strike and the purging of American VAs was one of the best thing to happen to the game
>VAs go back to America
>VA gets the job based on a skintone check
I'm malding
The biggest problem is that American VA's aren't actors they just typically do silly voices then get hired for roles. The EU VA's tend to be autistic stage actors that have actually read some literature because it's required to actually understand and study it to even get to where they are. I imagine in the US it's some frankenstein abortion of an education given how Universities over there are basically different variations of 'social science' which is just a code word for pumping out philistines that hate their own culture.
the universities are just STEM job training centers by design. the students themselves are the ones who choose to engage in politics or not, and you hate that freedom because you hate western culture.
>NO U
Frick off with your compelled speech, your need to culturally rot everything and be as reductive as possible so instead of producing art you produce moronation.
Oh no are you telling me everyone in Tural will have an American accent
At this point it seems the VA are all from streaming and the like. Brits are all stage actors and have some depth at lease since there are so many stage actors.
JP has the same since its treated like a real job.
US just has the same handful of people doing nearly the same vocla ranges for young and old alike and while they can by typeast to rolls most VA probably off reading books for audible since it offers better pay with less whiny buttholes to worry about.
Kate can't help herself.
But I like most of the other VAs
I don't know how people can seriously suggest this. The JP acting sucks. Compare "At the end of everything, I find you my friend." in english and jap. It's no contest. Zenos english va is great.
JP VA has another problem too, and it's exactly the same issue I have with anime dubs.
Every. Fricking. Voice actor. Is plucked. From the same clique. Of 5 "big time" voice actors.
It's like hearing Johnny Yong Bosch or Jennifer Hale in the English version of XIV.
Zenos and Emet in EN are overacted as frick
You have no taste
I'd take JP Wuk but most of the EN cast is better and I don't want to give up the voice lines in trials and raids too.
Yeah I love EN Yotsuyu screeching like a 60 years old giving her best Power Rangers villain delivery
Amazing voice acting truly weebs just don't understand
Eh she can go too, it would make sense to hear Domans etc with JP voices.
But you'll pry EN Susano from my cold dead hands.
Your next line is: "Alisaie sounds too old she should sound like a 4 year old e-girl instead and that proves JP is superior"
You should've gone for Tataru
I... actually don't like either Tataru.
(Tataru screaming "WELCOME BACK EVERYOOONE" at the end of 6.0 made her sound like a hog)
How dare you
this but unironically
imagine defending alisaie sounding fricking 36
>Character is a young bratty loudmouth tsundere
>Japanese voice actor plays her that way
>Somehow this is bad
She's a 16-18 year old bratty loudmouth tsundere.
Not a 4-year old.
If she's going to sound like anything, I'm going to prefer that she sounds too old rather than too young.
>Amazing voice acting truly weebs just don't understand
This, but unironically.
Play a JP game with JP voices? That's crazy
english is canon
Are you talking about the femroth voiced by the tr00n?
She'll probably be the narrator in Dawntrail too
I wonder what the framing device will be this time
Lyse is fun and cute. I liked collecting dung with Lyse. I liked fricking Lyse rawdog on the hand of Rhalgr.
dont ever compare my wife to that troon again or i will end you
Shes already written better than lyse
>uses EN voice
Found your problem
In no way is she written better than Lyse
Worse, we actually had a reason to help Lyse
>make the best girl
>do nothing with her
why
>...ok so we spent about 20-30 minutes hyping up this new character and telling players why she's super important to understanding ishgardian society. Then, the knights of the Heavensward show up and-
>Ok, first though, what does she do? How will she contribute to the plot?
>She has to do something?
>uses the same face model as Alisae and Alphinaud
Ameliance fricks Hyur men.
>Ameliance fricks Hyur men.
We know. Much to Alisaie's chagrin.
>Goes from basic boi to Giga Chad
How did Derplander do it?
aging in a world where nobody else apparently does
alphinaud and alisae have definitely aged
in fact pretty much everyone looks different. i look more like I did at arr launch than most of the main cast does and I don’t think it’s been as many in game years
Which shouldn't happen given that not even a year passed in game since ARR according to some of the Loporrit quests, making some story elements extremely stupid. Even pic related looks older somehow.
>Even pic related looks older somehow.
The ARR oversized shirt made her look childish. The tied hair didn't help either. It's not that she looks older, it's that she stopped looking like a brat.
>Garlemald had the time to go through 3 emperors, 3 civil wars in less than a year but they still somehow had enough time to revere Varis, the guy with which they lost the most provinces, enough to make him a primal
When you put it like that it sounds very moronic.
he fricked lyse
the thrill of battle fills him with sexual energy
Why do you think?
no sorry i'm into hrothgar women (ACTUAL women, wut lmao stay away)
Bribed the trailer makers and desperately hopes nobody sees him in the actual game.
I like his look in the game. It's not as gruff, and clearly not as detailed as the CGI equiv, but I still think it's fine.
I've noticed they are actually trying to make his jawline look like the trailer version now.
Yes. A little bit. I dunno how much fundamentally changed, and my own settings for Juan are different from Square's (I try to follow the CGI trailers as best I can), but he does seem to look a little more like his CGI counterpart. If only by a bit.
The painted on scars definitely didn't age well, though.
They need to make normal map scars and get rid of these diffuse ones.
that's not juan fantasia though, that's some anon hyur that has been spammed every single xiv thread after benchmark
I mean, it's literally the base one from the benchmark trailer, just with a facial scar.
I need a sliders for that
It's literally the base one
I picked a different skin color (afaik) and nose too. Square's picks for Juan can be quite weird. Sometimes he has really bright brown hair in trailers, for example.
I'm not even gay, but I'd frick this guy.
We know, G'raha.
>giga chad
>cringe anime dual swordsman
????
Its the Chad mindset. 2 swords is better than 1, he dropped the shield for another sword.
real chad mindset is using 1 big sword, two toothpicks are for sissies
>Be Krile
>Well respected and well liked individual
>Kinda smug
>Feel self conscious because despite having Echo, you've been kinda useless when shit gets real
>Decide to take up Pictomancy so you can help out
>Realise this adventuring stuff is actually kinda fun
>Situation arises that has You and the others stumped
>In a moment of frustration, come up with a sub 70 IQ plan that WoL would probably come up with
>It works
>Others praise you for it, WoL smiles and nods like usual.. only this time you see what looks like pride in his eyes
>Be absolutely confused
>Then a sudden realisation kicks in
>Out of all the Echo bearers that you know aside from yourself, two are adventure morons and the rest are sensible and logical
>Continue on
>Keep making smooth brain decisions that somehow work out
>tfw you realise that going on adventures causes your Echo to give you terminal adventure autism and that there is no going back
story lacks me giving Krile the dick
That's part of the Adventure Autism. She fricks WoL because he is her optimal mate and she his... Just like Mother Hydaelyn intended
What about Arevald?
Adventure Autism
Don't have a leg to stand on with that comparison, mate.
Isn't he the other adventure moron?
I'm replaying through Stormblood on a new char and I can see why people hated it
This MSQ is just not that good and kind of annoying
Best expansion
Best music
Best Ast
Best Story
Best class quests
Best trailer
ALEXANDER RAIDS
It didn't have the best trials of the lot but I did enjoy mongolian throat singing beetle.
japanese voice "acting" is just old women squealing like e-girls in heat
Let me play the fricking GAAAAAAAAAAAME. Endwalker was nothing but 5 hours of running between dragged out conversations until you could finally play a dungeon. Been playing Dragon Quest X recently and every quest at least had me fighting one group of monsters. Went back to xiv to play the xvi crossover and it was text text and more text, zoom in on the environment to find clive, walk through a zone with clive.
Then go play DQX. YoshiP isn't reading your post.
>YoshiP isn't reading your post.
I have a japanese IP. He will bow to my demands and apologise profusely.
>Midlander men fricking furgays or lalas
This wannabe general has the worst headcanons
>Male
>Hyur
>Midlander
>Only play with job appropriate gear
Yep, it's time to game
Respectable
SB was the best expansion
You didn't play in HW if you think it's the best expansion. It nearly killed the game.
is it possible to make a chad looking Viera?
No
yes
>t. chad malera
post it
No 🙂
no, it's impossible to make a viera that doesn't look like it takes it up the ass
Shit and Piss
Dawntrail will be the new best expansion
gib back blue snek
Guys, Marauder or Gladiator? Which one will give me the best MSQ experience?
Uninstall Wizard
Gladiator starts in Ul'dah which is arguably the best starting zone story wise
>GLD
>making this poor frick deal with the absolute dogshit that is level 31-60 Paladin job quests
MRD/WAR aint *much* better, but at least you achieve something. The PLD job quests themselves admit you wasted your time.
And then 61-70 is just some random gladiator tournament arc.
He only asked about the start of the game. He can change at 30.
>He only asked about the start of the game.
I was actually meaning for the whole game.
Should I just swap to Dark Knight or Gunbreaker when I can?
>ARR starts with WoL arriving in Uldah
>ARR ends with WoL fleeing Uldah
It's like pottery
You are supposed to change as you go.
>ARR: MRD/WAR
>Heavensward: DRG
>Stormblood: MNK
>Shadowbringers: DRK
>Endwalker: PLD
I have to begrudgingly admit it, but Gridania is not bad either.
Doesn't that mean leveling a whole new job every time I'm about to start a new expansion? Frick that.
Just do DRG then. It's the only job with any MSQ relevance
The game gives you extra 50% exp gained if you are on a job below your max level job (armory bonus) and there are shortcuts to leveling you can unlock that allow you to get to something like 50 in a couple of hours. In addition to that, if you complete tutorial quests, you can unlock the Brand New Ring, which gives you an extra 30% exp bonus when you are below level 30, if a friend invited you, you can get a Friendship Circlet for 1-25 25% ex gain increase and if you preordered Dawntrail, you get a +20% exp below level 90 earring. And if you are with a free company or use one of the grand company exp manuals, you can get +15% exp gained on top. In short - leveling is piss easy in this game and is not a grind at all unlike in other mmos.
>Not switching between MNK and SAM depending on which part of SB you're in
Stormblood is mnk in Afghanistan and sam in Japan.
I hated Yanxia and Kugane, so I didn't do that, but my first Stormblood playthrough was on SAM.
>Gridania
WAILERS AND WATERWHEELS WAILERS AND WATERWHEELS WAILERS AND WATERWHEELS WAILERS AND WATERWHEELS WAILERS AND WATERWHEELS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA KILL ME
GLD
better class story
Ul'dah better starting city
Thancred better scion
Nanamo is "main" city leader character
Neither,. Gridania is the best starting city
LNC is objectively the correct choice
yeah but lnc also fricking sucks ASSCHEEKS to play until like 60 xd
>walking through Limsa
>See this little guy in one of the job trainer areas running around
I am finally home
DAM DAM DAM
DA DA DAM
DA DA DA DA DADADAM
?si=HKVuAUA6R77KDUHx
The Stormblood theme is still unrivaled imho
Worst loading screen theme
Heavensward and Answers are better, both musically and cinematically. I get subjectivity and taste, but I wish people listened to more music instead of just defaulting to the familiarity of "muh buttrock is the best!" lol.
To be clear not saying ShB's is bad, I just think people default to it for these reasons. It's got a catchy leitmotif, but so much of the rock shit is forgettable to me. The way they approach their rock writing in a lot of the main themes is just fricking sleepsville,
to this day i mute all stormblood content because my ears are not over the burnout from hearing the same fricking song over and over and over and over and over to the point that i dont know how anyone can stand it. it's the battle music. it's the boss music. it's the cutscene music. you get little breaks where something different plays and then DAM DAM DAM. it sucks so bad. all the other expansion leitmotifs are done far better so i'm not worried about dawntrails at least
SB was the last time I truly enjoyed the game, hearing its music only makes me sad.
STORM OF BLOOD
BORN FROM BLOOD
OF OUR FALLEN BROTHERS
Got the minions, got the first mount got 4 weapons, think I'll give it a break and pace out the Yo-kai event. Finally did that Mammoth fate in Othard, first time I was able to see enough people in the Open World where we all did it together organically. I really hope they do more shit like this in future, this game isn't lacking for content, it's the fricking rewards they're lacking to push people into doing the content. This Yo-kai event is proving it beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Cool. I can't even play because they won't take my money.
Contact support, they'll sort it out for you.
>EW trials above anything
Follow le doritos XD
Above HW and ShB
as if a bunch of trials in the game pre or post EW arent literally just that lmao
Mogged by kinobringers
is Ganker the only place that discusses this dead singleplayer cutscene simulator?
>no story hook
>jobs look like ass
>no major changes in gameplay
>femhroths look like ass
I'm skipping this one
K. Bye.
>tfw it came to me last night DT may keep the same shitty PVP as EW because for whatever fricking reason they believe it to successful when it utterly ruined frontline
Where the FRICK are new chapters for Flying Witch?
>utterly ruined frontline
>more people playing it than ever before
Just because you're a b***h and hate change, doesn't mean the devs give a frick about you no longer playing the gamemode when it saw a vast increase in popularity.
moron, everyone is doing it because of the rewards, not because they actually enjoy this drk drg ast shitfest
>he thinks its drk ast
>not DRK DRK DRK RPR DNC DRG WAR
One dark is never going to win you the game
Hell i had a game yesterday that 4 dark team came in third because they couldnt get suc right
They are the enablers thats all, all they need is 1 friend
Mostly it shifts to RPR or DNC
They can pop shields and then the death comes.
Been in some of those coridnated teams is fun... being on the other side makes me try and get my team to live.
more like DRK MCH SCH IF the team is coordinated.
have a nice day fricking cretin
Cry more. You'll never be catered to.
And that's why xiv sucks now, it panders to shitters and idiots
but it isn't pandering to you right now
Yes, that's the problem idiot, that's why it hasn't been good since SB
Bruh frontline has always been pure shittery.
self-styled game "critics" and rampant narcissism
name a better duo
>"it doesn't pander to me and so it is dead"
>game is currently at its playercount peak and is about to release a brand new expansion in 2 months
I think it's time you quit. Maybe Runescape is more your style.
it doesnt count shut up luckybancho bad twitch views good
Luckybancho IS shit tho, I'd never use it as a metric for anything in favor of my game, or against someone else's.
The guy straight admits he makes up the numbers based on some algorithm that came to him in a dream.
so true sis
twitch views uber alles
Twitch views is also a shit metric because it relies entirely on streambility of a game, and the time of fricking day, and if X big streamer's schedule has them on at the time you take the viewcount.
You're trying to construct a strawman here, but I'm built like a brick shithouse, son.
you're also losing
How can a game be fun but unfun to watch?
You would know if you played games.
There is nothing dynamic in FFXIV at all except for PvP which isn't very popular. Every raid, dungeon, etc is all extremely static. End game activities like raids revolve around memorizing a "dance" that you have to perform correctly in order to win. There isn't anything in the game to really shine as an exceptional player because you either do the dance right or the fight auto wipes you. There are no clutch saves. There are no big gamer moments. It's so scripted Yoshi literally had to come out on stage and say the game had no fricking stress left in it
Would you watch somebody read a book?
Are you legitimately brain dead?
Golf
It is absolutely not at its playercount peak. And I find it hilarious how according to XIV posters every single metric of determining their population is wrong except "gut feeling" apparently.
You should tell your discordbuddies all about it.
End of service in a week, after all. Prepare the champagne and all that.
Leave.
Frontline doesn't matter. It's full of AFKers and whether you win or lose is entirely random.
And yet all the good PvP rewards are still tied to it
And it’s the only gamemode that gets a daily roulette
Old PvP is hot trash compared to nu pvp, personal LBs are great
>ruined frontline
Who fricking cares? People do frontline for daily reward and that it. Nobody tries. Nobody cares.
I care, it actually used to be fun in sb and shb, now it's just a bunch of gays pressing Q every 2 minutes
oh frick off. Frontline was never good. especially shatter.
Secure and onsal used to be, same with rival wings
Best PvP mode is rival wings
When moogle event was on rival wings was great. Get a game every 5 minutes.
people do care, you are the problem
Frontlines seems fine overall
Have been playing it in the down time... event shatter, which is worse than the original.
shatter in this current version is still absolutely terrible
>t. shitter mad at Black person Knights
t Black person knight
It will keep current PvP in 7.0 with temporary PvP kits for Pictomancer and Viper. In 7.1 all PvP kits will get a huge overhaul with new abilities and LBs and all that stuff. Most likely a new frontline map or CC map in 7.1 too. The X.1 patch historically has always been the big pvp update patch for the last 2 expansions.
I don't really care about frontline but stopped playing CC because the latency and awkward target selection wore on me. I know it was also bad before but I just don't think this game's pvp can be satisfying until that's fixed, I don't even know how people can tolerate playing a melee in that mode.
Frick off, I played before the EW PVP change and it was completely dead. It was so dead only around 200 people were playing PVP in NA and EU combined. It was ridiculous, this is a classic case of you being contrarian for the sake of it. Old in PVP was not good, nobody liked it outside of those super autistic guys who were wintrading.
Talking about frontline not the feast, the only reason people do frontline now is for series exp or jerking off thinking they are amazing for sucking people in when only guard can protect from it
So am I, frontline was dead before the pvp update.
Lie, why are you lying?
Not on primal, you could easily find matches but it would be heavily stacked in malestorm favor
Only thing I miss about old PvP was healers actually being able to heal. There was something so cathartic and rewarding about being a WHT and healing your whole alliance by juggling all your heal spell and gcds. most of the post rework healers cant even target outside of your party or cant even heal directly at all.
PvP has vastly improved though and personal ULTs are great, i would not be surprised if they work their way into PvE soon.
It would be nice to have our own personal LBs but I could see it being balance nightmare
peak xivgay contrarianism
EW PVP is dogshit
>Dude just press your thing every 2 minute to instantly delete the enemy team
cry harder b***h old pvp was wet catshit
It actually required some skills instead of relying on instant win buttons so I understand why you believe that
>It actually required some skills
lol lol lolling lmaoing
Ye
poop
BRO
Show up after hours, gold cert boy.
Thanks, but I'll just take the Magicked Children's Bed
This anon knows what’s up, that thing is worth hundreds of millions
>sell it
haha
Based. The first of every minion/mount/etc should be used by you no matter how valuable it is.
t. owner of Queen's Barding and other expensive shit
>, that thing is worth hundreds of millions
?
Oh I’m thinking of the other magic bed with the chocobo on it
That is the one, image on
is something else
Skibidi looking neck
Summarize in one sentence each the role of each job in pvp.
>DRK
suck
>SCH
aids
MNK is literally omae wa mou shinde iru. As soon as you get your LB you just pick someone on the enemy team and they’re 100% dead.
Tips for every job in CC PvP that you should all consider
>WAR:
Your combo is Bloodwhetting > Onslaught > Rend > Orogeny > Cyclone. Dip in to combat to AOE burst with sustain, then start getting out with your recuperates to elixir and dive back in. Use your LB aggressively if people run in to stall with guard.
GNB:
>Tank junction 90% of the time to reflect damage with Nebula and give yourself shields on your gnashing combo. When you LB, make you sure you have Double Down ready and only channel your LB for 1 tick and then immediately recast it for the aoe damage + stun then combo with Double Down. It isn't worth channeling for the full duration most of the time. Sit on the point like a fatass cat stealing your chair when you get up. You are the best point pusher in the game in tank stance.
>DRK:
Please fricking plunge the BURST TARGET to debuff them, not just random people to use it as a gapcloser. Your LB also is the best "oh shit" button in the game and ignores animation delay deaths through a unique handling of game mechanics that would kill you otherwise.
>PLD:
Make a macro for cover so your teammates know when you are actually using it on them. If you are being covered, you can use your elixir to refresh your health and mp, or use it as a free chance to dps without fear of dying and play very greedy.
>WHM:
combo is LB > Misery > Seraph. Save your aquaveils for teammates who receive CC so you can cleanse it and give them a double potency shield.
>AST:
always double cast your gravities for damage if you can and use macro for damage to combo with it, be wary of who gets your macro buff and you can reactivate it to heal them if they are in LoS of you.
>SGE:
swap your fricking kardia around you stupid moron. Your teammates need those shields to live and you need those shields to pop so you can get more damage. Dont be afraid to preemptively use your LB too to buff your team before going in to a fight so you dont during the animation lock
cont
>MNK:
In soloqueue you are literally the most overpowered job in the game. phoenix > enlightenment > stun > meteo is the combo. Your enlightenment pressure point debuff can be procced through Guard and will deal full damage if they are guarded. Phantom Rush is also AOE and you can buff it for disgusting cleaves.
>DRG:
Just backflip and cleave, homie. Under ideal situations you can geirskogul > backflip > wyrmwind thrust > jump > thrust > nastrond. Use roar when diving in or to just tank stuff. Look for cleave angles to hit multiple people with wyrmwind. Also use geirskogul before LBing so you buff your skydive damage.
>NIN:
You are honestly probably too moronic to play ninja so just dont.
>RPR:
You are basically a tank and need to play like one. Use your harvest ability ASAP when matches start so you begin charging your LB right away (it shaves 30 seconds off the charge time over 15s, making it go from a 75s charge to a 45s charge which is fastest in the game). Go in with your shield up and if you get attacked it pops to heal your teammates. Save your LB and use it when enemies guard so you can fear them out and kill them.
>SAM:
Call your fricking targets when you midare, use ogi to cleave people to shield yourself. Dash through targets and aoe them with your combo for aoe pressure and sustain. Make sure to not LB people if they proc your chiten and then shield themselves as they can live through it.
All Melee players should be marking their burst targets with a 1 marker, if you dont do this you cannot complain about not being able to climb
>BRD:
Use apex asap at the start of a game to buff your teammates. Use paean on your frontline players to protect them from CC and give them a defense buff. Your burst is silence > blast arrow > empyrael > pitch perfect. Call your burst targets as BRD is one of the best burst initiators in the game (and was picked 100% of the time in CCRC because of it)
>MCH:
Wildfire > shoot > anaylsis + drill > LB will kill pretty much any job in the game. Always analysis drill and air anchor if you can. Remember to put your turret down for shielding teammates adn debuffing enemies.
>DNC:
Swap your dance partner around. You can double heal your partner for 20k with curing waltz if you stand ontop of them. Do not initiate fights with your LB because people will be looking for it. Wait for it to start and come in from the side to use it after people have committed. Save your fan dance to extend it and spin on them.
>BLM:
Your burst is 3 stack of anything > superflare > AM > burst for soemthing like 20k+ damage. You can oppressively lock people down with ice spam or if you are in your LB and safe to freecast you can spam fire into crowds to really pump out crazy aoe damage. Dont forget to dive in on targets you have stacked on to superflare and burst them.
>RDM:
Just like ninja you're probably too moronic to play this job and would be better off trying something else tbh.
>SMN:
braindead job just fricking bind people with titan and dash in with ifrit, start running back out to safety for the second ifrit hit and use festers if they are below 50% hp for the execute damage. Remember to use aegis on your TEAMMATES just like bard and use it to protect your frontline. Its a 10k shield but has a damage mitigation on it so itll reduce any big hits by a flat amount before being applied to the shield amount while active. Use bahamut 90% of the time.
>RDM
>Just like ninja you're probably too moronic to play this job and would be better off trying something else tbh.
It's wild to me that one of the simplest PvE jobs became one of the most complicated PvP jobs.
NIN is still more complicated than most PVE jobs, though, as easy it has become
>PHANTOM RUSH IS AOE
WHAT
WHAT
WHAT THE FRICK
ive been playing monk so much, even got top 100 with it and never fricking noticed lmfao
And this is why when you see people here who complain about PvP being dominated by wintraders they are completely full of shit and just awful at the game because you can get top 100 without even knowing how the jobs work
They're weird guys trying to upcycle all of their old shitposts from the days when Feast was a thing and they don't quite get it doesn't apply anymore
Oh and not only this but Feast was saturated with wintraders because it was a profoundly boring PvP mode
Well I was expecting more memery but a write up on how to play them is cool.
What should I do after I leveled up blu and gotten all the spells?
get all the huehuefunnnyJPhumor man weapons
Dunno, make a tier list? Start a youtube channel where you talk about job balance in an annoying nasal voice?
this but also make sure that all your experience and talking points are geared towards dungeons
That doesn’t sound fun, I like video games anon
Unsure who you're referencing here. Who's got the nasal voice?
I wasn't refering to anyone in particular, just the myriad youtubers with annoying voices that make tier lists about this or that.
Aha, gotcha.
>NUMBER NINE
>BURGER KING FOOT LETTUCE
Learn how to play the game, all you've shown so far is you know you can level a job.
That one touched a nerve huh? You can earn xp by doing anything in this game, the story, roulettes, fates. That still doesn't mean you know how to play your job role. It means you know how to level a job, which is braindead.
i don't know i'm losing touch with the Ganker youth or not because i have no idea what this is meant to imply
Projecting
Your desynth levels?
I hate that so I will never do it
PIC will be absolutely broken in PvP.
VPR will be dogshit.
You heard it here first.
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>will Dawntrail be better?
I don't have faith in the new writer
I think Viper will be fun to play and glam at least
I think the zones haven't had as much effort put into them since HW even though I think ShB is a better expac overall (every expac since has had 2 zones that wowed me, ALL of HW's zones were cool)
I think they forgot about swimming
not a poopsocker so I don't care about raids
but dear god they need a good open world zone like bozja
and a new hebe like Ryne
or better yet, just bring Ryne back into relevance
hoping they announce some paragon shit for crafters
I want to grind out the achievements, but I'm going to be livid if I do and then miss out on exp
I want Garlemald restoration and to explore parts of the Garlean empire
But to answer your question, I think it's going to be one of the most mid expacs, but I love this game and am currently taking a break, so I'll miss it enough once DT launches that I'll play the shit out of it.
I haven't done the 6.5 msq yet becuase the story's been ass but Wuk sounds cool in the trailer. I liked the voice when I heard it in the first trailer before it was confirmed who it was
Do the 6.5 MSQ. troonyrage aside, the VA sounds like he *literally* phoned it in.
it sounds genuinely terrible ingame. ive used EN since 2.0 and this might actually make me switch to JP if its heavily present in the DT MSQ.
>BRD, LNC, WHM
Who are the /NophicaApproved/ tank and caster?
There is no nophica-approved caster until PCT releases. Not even RDM, because you're abusing both white magic *and* black magic, which would make the elementals lose their shit.
Does SMN have something that could piss Nophica off? I don't think egis are supposed to drain aether like primals do.
Also tank?
Nidhogg did nothing wrong.
Do you think they'll unsync the criterion dungeons in Dawntrail? Me and my friends are contemplating getting Epic Hero but wasting energy on it if they make it easy in 7.0 seems pointless.
Same happened with Rathalos in SB.
I hope they don't. Make Criterion/Crit Savage stay synced at all times.
I like Ivalice gear
best tank chest in the game. I frickin love that thing
>use the modded version of the chestpiece with the breasts out and a thong
Very good gear, only reason to play tank.
If I wanted Ivalice (which I don't) I'd play one of several games set there.
Yoshi-P has said he recognizes the lack of RPG elements in his RPG and is working to correct that with Dawntrail.
So, we'll see? I don't have much confidence he actually understands the problem, much less the solution, but at least there's a vague effort being made.
shrinking boss hitbox and nothing else.
>Yoshi-P has said he recognizes the lack of RPG elements
>is working to correct that with Dawntrail.
Lol, no. He said that combat was starting to feel stale and he said he wanted there to be more multiplayer content in the multiplayer game.
Nothing about "muh arpeegee". And if you want to see his stance on hard RPG mechanics, you just need to look at Final Fantasy XVI.
I mean I'll take more MMO mechanics in the MMORPG too. Really just making any letter other than the O mean something would be a win since it's barely even a game anymore much less the rest of it.
No, he basically said he realizes why things like Bozja are needed.
It's less a question of understanding the problem and more analytics-driven design - which just doesn't work for measuring fun in a genre with extrinsic motivation at It's core. But suits wont take any other form of justification for focus.
Where did he say this? If you're pretending the pax east panel meant anything I'll have you know he shot down pretty much all avenues of possible growth already in that same panel. He doesn't know what the problem is and is just waiting for someone to tell him.
>Yoshi-P has said he recognizes the lack of RPG elements in his RPG
no he didn't say that at all, he said he wants a heavier multiplayer focus after endwalker's borderline singleplayer focus and he also said current content design is even making the devs sleep
nothing was said or implied about "RPG elements", please go play WoW or a diablo game if you want endless itemization and stats manipulation wankery
>endless itemization
Why does having RPG elements(a Final Fantasy staple, the literal reason they are known), would mean moronic gear and gearing?
We can keep the mediocre gearing system we have now and still fill up the vast amount of content that doesn't have any rewards for the game.
Not that XIV needs gear anyways, but you can still have solid jobs with identities and mechanics if they are too incompetent to come up with decent gear. Delete materia as well while you're at it.
if you think you're getting HP manipulation from a dark knight when it's a tank job whose survival is paramount you are too stupid to have this discussion
I say let them get their extra or lower HP if they want to have it. If the system allows for something to be done, obviously you can have it undone.
Also dark knight isn't a tank in the FF games, they are usually a DPS. For example they take damage each time they deal damage in SOP and that's an action game.
Cecil as a dark knight is the second beefiest characterin the game, only behind Cecil as a paladin
dark knights in FFXI can wear all the tank gear but players intentionally don't kit them out to tank
dark knights in ffx-2 are tough as frick but their gimmick is that they're super slow
Having high defense is only a third of what being a tank means. In the context of XIV, being able to hold enmity and control the battlefield on top of being able to take the damage is what makes a tank.
Dark knight is known as a high risk high reward job, you sacrifice HP to deal more damage. Again nothing to do with being a tank.
This is an argument already lost with Scholar and Summoner all the way back in ARR that had little or no relation to what they traditionally do, in Scholar's case it has little or no relation to what it's done in any prior game because of Scholar's slip-shod job identity and infrequent appearance FFXI was the first time Scholar had shown up since FF3, its debut, since Libra got folded into White Magic
You're right but that wasn't my original argument anyways. I don't even really know why that anon brought up HP manipulation. Though since DRK is almost identical to DK anyways you might as well just make them a tank with extremely volatile HP. Would be more fun than what we have now. Or turn them into a DPS.
>in the context of ffxiv
>dark knights are known for being a high risk high reward job
no they're not. if you're going to keep the scope of your argument to 14 you can't go pulling in iterations from previous installments of the franchise. make up your mind
wants to have his cake and eat it too on traditional gameplay arguments while completely ignoring why the traditional gameplay doesn't work in ziv's format
Why wouldn't it work in XIVs format?
you don't need that explained to you and we both know it
Well, I think classic DRK could be well implemented in XIV. You have healing role being required for party play, and you already have skills that restore HP and MP. I'd argue for the idea of making them like Blood DK from WoW if they want to keep the job as a tank. Bad mitigation, great survivability and self healing.
Hell you can even make all of these changes without turning the game into an RPG lmfao.
You want it to be WAR with worse mit?
Ideally tanks as they are right now need to get revised, but there isn't much to do for tanks without changing the game so that's not really happening.
How would this job even operate in something like TEA where mit dumps are a requirement?
Short answer is it wouldn't (and that's a good thing) it's not a good thing
Are mit dumps a requirement because of the incoming damage? I didn't play ultimates or did savage.
Yes, absolutely.
Well that depends on a lot of things, I don't know what the exact job kit would be, but it could be really fun to have a buff that you can use to store all the HP you spent on attacks to create a shield when the buff expires.
If you're unable to hit the boss then, you'd have to rely on your party, maybe ask someone to put a buff on you like its a multiplayer game.
I just want people to work around clearly defined strengths and weaknesses.
That sounds terrible but I don't think anything can be done about meta chasing. I'd consider making a system to ease static building and reward playing with those people. That way you just find people more up your speed.
Or you know, have the devs work on the game, but that would be ridiculous huh? To update a live service title that has seen nothing but growth in a decade.
While I agree that the game needs a lot of QoL work and should have gotten it years ago with the amount of money it pulls in, mostly in the social aspect and UI elements. I disagree about your points on job and combat systems design because I'm honestly not really interested in hearing about what you have to say, as it is of little value coming from someone with zero experience in engaging with any of the current combat systems.
Well, if it helps I've played the game since the end of heavenward but the only reason I didn't raid this entire time is because combat has always felt mediocre to me.
I have other games I play for difficult content, progression, classes with identity that don't require a sub and don't waste my time.
I've been subbed for 1.5k days and most of that time was spent doing RP and MSQ on alts because that's the only thing that kept me around in this mediocre game.
Okay, thanks for letting me know.
Forget TEA, at least you can survive those with a bit of help or just get rezzed.
TOP is physically impossible with bad mit. Solar Ray high roll will kill you through a full kitchen sink if you sre missing 1 reprisal and the P6 busters not only hit like a truck but also punish you with a wipe.
Usually in WoW tanks have some buffs to mitigate damage but most of the time their basic buttons exist to actively make sure they stay alive
If jobs had more utility maybe someone could whip up shell and protect for those phases. I don't know, there are so many ways this could be done but instead they design every job like it's a single player game.
In 6.1 PLD was missing 1 mitigation compared to other tanks and had a miserable time in DSR P6.
Healers could fix it using both targeted mits on the PLD, but that buster is already sketch and WB2 is right after. Instead, nobody wanted to play with PLD, despite it making mit for Nidhogg and Alternative End free.
Is that really something you shouldn't do? How come all jobs get to be consistent across games but they can't get that done in XIV? Are they incompetent?
>How come all jobs get to be consistent across games
They aren't, nice try. Back to the books.
its not my job to correct your argument 🙂
>Also dark knight isn't a tank in the FF games, they are usually a DPS.
They wear heavy armor which is typically the delineation for "tank." FF doesn't really do dedicated tanks outside of MMOs and one or two jobs in Tactics games that usually suck anyways because of their atrocious speed or attack
Do wish that there were more Ivalice sets, Gaffgarion's, female Knight's, male Dragoon's
We don't even have Ramza's Buttpants I don't think.
no it's in, it's the Ivalician Brave set. Dropped from Orbonne
oh shit. i didn't even realize because the colors are so off.
>main cast is not only boring, but also there's so many characters that nobody gets enough screen time to make you care
it'll be mediocre slop, just good enough to be somewhat enjoyable but not even remotely something anybody could possibly get invested in
Will we get a new bawd dance in Dawntrail? Beesknees is getting stale at clubs and when receiving lapdances.
Lophop is quite suggestive in the quadrille skirt
They WILL appear and save dawntrail!
>They WILL appear
yeah
during cosmic exploration
I'm looking for information in regards to possible macros or plugins to automate a few things that really don't matter at the end of the day and figured this thread is the spot to ask. I know I can automate Island Sanctuary gathering with looping macros, but is there something besides buying Razr junk that'll let me automate MGP farming from the Manderville housing items next month?
how many female Middies and Highlanders will be Beastmasters?
If you weren't a saint or beata/beatus of the firmament stay out of cosmic exploration, you are a lesser being.
I WILL become <Forgemaster of the Cosmos> and there is nothing you can do to stop me.
Fricking casual. If you aren't an outright Saint of the Firmament, you should just have a nice day.
i tried for the whole week and no life it to end up on 11th place. It was one of the worse mistakes i made in my life. Now that i think about it mmorpgs are really bad for people and it only wastes your life.
Stormblood was the better expansion.
sb, shb and ew were all better expansions
>The only people who love current pvp are the afkers
You can't make this up
i'm sure you'll be able to find another contrarian who'll pretend that old pvp was good if you keep caterwauling like a troon
You don't need to look hard, basically anyone outside of this shithole
You will never be catered to again.
OUR game now, nerd.
The only thing I don't like about nu-pvp is how fricked frontlines got when it's the only mass PVP mode. You basically can't kill anyone 1v1 outside of NIN or SAM lbs. I used to tear shit up on dragoon and ninja and now I just run around with the blob and AOE into the other blob.
FL is now strategic as god intended
Monk can, get good
>monk
No thanks I'm straight
No one dies until the funny lbs are up, its completely terrible, only literal shitters like it because the skilless random kills make their small peepees slightly bigger
It always makes me chuckle when I remember how many people got mindbroken by XIV.
>10 fricking legendary medals for each weapon
man frick this
And someone said the original run required 30 legendary medals per weapon and each fate had a lower chance of dropping a legendary medal. that shit sounds like hell
I got my first weapon today and I now won't touch the event for the next three weeks, until all the BLUs from other datacenters frick off.
it only takes 8 hours to get all of the weapons
Dawntrail's armor is working its way to being the best DRG artifact of all
now if only it could be shown off proper
but the troonra who showed it off just had to remove the helmet because ???? dumbshit reasons
To date I have no fricking clue why the au ra showcased it using his own au ra character instead of the fricking miqo'te it was built for. He flubbed like 80% of the artifacts doing that.
Because au ra players need their homosexual fish dollies in the frame whenever they can.
Which showcase
I only clicked on this thread as your op pic reminded me of FF4.
man, I really wanted to like FFXIV and I did to an extent but the whole "every player is the chosen hero" thing is so jarring. and the story, at least when I played a few years ago, was one of the worst of any FF game. the raids and dungeons were the only reason I stick around for more than a few months.
>Diadem was so ass it failed twice
>Raiding was so ass it almost killed the raid community
>Job balance was so bad some jobs were unviable (WAR)
>Bard was gutting worse than Summoner
>Accuracy stat was trash
>Crafters/Gatherers HAD to lvl all of the respective jobs to get cross class skills
>MaMa crafting
This romanticizing of HW needs to fricking stop
Don't forget 2.1 basically killed the raiding scene
>(WAR)
moron.
It's people trying to meme Heavensward as being XIV's Burning Crusade or Wrath of the Lich King, its "glory years" in the first expansion after launch If you were around for the expansion, in both games' cases, you know this is total bullshit
t-minus 5 minutes before someone goes "ACKCHUALLY THAT HUFF THAT WAS HGFGH A GOOD THING YOU PARSECHUD"
>Accuracy stat
Please don’t remind me of that dark time, that and TP are fricking horrible
Accuracy was good unless you were a healer, now gearing is just *pick the piece with crit and no or little sks*
>fight specific melds
No thank you
Even if they added meld plates I wouldn't want this.
bros.... why can't i RETVRN.... to the days of fifty fricking billion gear macros
Noooo it was fun melding and hitting the SKS dummy over and over until you get it right
More like tier specific melds
>>Job balance was so bad some jobs were unviable (WAR)
*PLD
There was no unviable job in HW beside 3.0 AST which healed worse than whm and had more expensive spells for no reason
Dragoon armor designed for Miqo'te, why? Cats can't be dragon slayers
I never go there anyone, its just homosexuals thinking they are amazing for stunning people for 10 seconds then pushing them, there were literally discord servers in shb just to do that with other people
>borderland ruins
HW was the worst expansion patch cycle in the game outside of MSQ, who are you fooling?
Stormblood was the peak FF14 expansion
>tfw 99% chance Dawntrail gameplay is just Shadowbringers 3.0
i'm honestly the opposite of hype. They need to fricking CHANGE SOMETHING PLEASE GOD
>change something please god
>why didn't we get an expedition foray and got variants/criterion/IS instead
I want them to experiment and do new things for content, yes. But more importantly I want them to do new things and experiment with GAMEPLAY. I am so fricking sick of circle or square arenas with automatically repositioning bosses. I am so sick of protean spread mechanics. I am so sick of bosses repositioning to the middle to cast their big debuff vomit mechanics. I am so sick of just the FORMULA. Variant dungeons are awesome but there is no reason to do them. There is no experimentation in gear. There is no RPG in the MMORPG. There is no thing that makes you special or unique in this game. There is no "oh my god I got the holy sword of Alexander!" moment in this game, just "I got my crit/det raid weapon". There is no wow factor, there is no discovery, there is no mystery to the game. Even with dawntrail not even being out yet, we can already predict 90% of it in terms of content
then try a different genre. because thats what you're asking for. is a different genre
No? WoW has a lot of really creative and varied bosses, as do other MMOs I'm sure. XIV has a pretty clear formula it follows for most of its fights.
It's insane to me that the game hasn't had a singular gameplay addition for a decade, and worse than that it's been half a decade since Shadowbringers came and raped the game and we've just had that expansion over and over.
i too like to spread flagrant hyperbole
Name one gameplay addition added to the game.
Name five gameplay additions that aren't Jackie Chan
you'll just say "it dont count"
tell me what gameplay addition hw had
They didn't have one. In fact I am struggling to think if the game got any additions to the actual game in the ten years its been running. I can for sure tell you the many things that have been removed.
>There is no "oh my god I got the holy sword of Alexander!" moment in this game
Because we had that in Diadem and everyone FRICKING HATED IT
Your understanding of MMOs is fundamentally incompatible with modern MMOs and is founded majority in pop culture perceptions of MMOs combined with some very specific and very niche circumstances in MMOs from the early to mid 2000s
There really isn't any speaking to you on this when you're wearing a rose tinted hazmat suit and you've had the WoW episode of South Park playing in your head on repeat for the past twenty years
you really took everything he said and twisted it badly.
*Stormblood 4.0 without melee vulnerabilities
>tfw 99% chance Dawntrail gameplay is just Shadowbringers 3.0
yoship literally said it would be
HW isn't better than ShB or EW.
It's not even better than SB.
It's MSQ is about the same as SB (I will only place it higher because SB had mhiggers but we can write them off easily).
HW Alliance raids are worse.
HW Normals are worse (Alexander SUCKS, sorry getting to tank LB3 doesn't make it interesting)
HW Trials are worse.
You're just nostalgic for a time when you were younger. And I'm saying this as someone whose classes have been damaged beyond repair by the recent expansions. (SCH/SMN/AST)
zased
Rip AST 🙁
I want to FRICK ZEPLA'S FAT SOUTHERN ASS
I will never forgive gays like you for gassing this shit up so bad
I played thru the entire free trial of this game and the shit never stopped being a boring mess of a nu-MMO and literally just made me want to reinstall WoW.
>i'm mazed
>12 second gap
jesus christ
>one of them escaped the maze in twelve seconds
can you say the same, imperial
Early game used to be better but they ruined it because yoshi thinks people want the game to be boring as frick until max level
traits are getting revised, earlygame experience will probably get better there is so fricking much data in the benchmark holy shit
It's never getting better
>Stoned Vigil nerfed like 7 times since I started playing the game
Fricking pathetic, everyone I recommend the game to dropped it after beating ARR
>wuuuahhhhhh brooooos it's never gonna get betteerrrrrr
>staring directly at changed traits
lmfao
Who gives a shit about traits? They aren't combos or the actual dungeons
better spell effects earlier and earlier power-ups just don't count, okay
That's just your guess, dungeons are still nerfed and there aren't more buttons
that isn't my guess, that's datamined out of the benchmark which has a fricking eerie amount of retail information as pertains to dawntrail
"dungeons nerfed" happened years ago and all the trust reworks ended up for the better in pretty much all cases, to me the most questionable one is removing the floating monster bit from skalla which wasn't necessary
They were nerfed waaay before trust even existed, they just nerfed them again, and again, and again, until they became impossible to wipe to
yes
i know
i said that
>more shitty powercreep
cant wait for le number crunch 2.0 to ruin everything again
honestly, i wouldn't mind if jobs got a majority of their kit by like lvl 60.
it would make both leveling for newbies and doing old dungeons for people at cap less boring
You got like 300 hour of free entertainment Gordito, what are you mad about?
>i never had fun over those 300 hours
You see are really dumb and would have wasted your time on something more expensive or worse for you.
I specifically spent 300 hours specifically to deny you the "you've never played it!!!!!" claims that you would otherwise be screeching at the top of your lungs the moment I criticized it. The game is a slog and has a single good expansion's worth of content in it that you have to wade thru hours of slop just to experience. The rest of the game is just a glorified dress up doll game for troons and gays like you. I hope DT kills the game for good so we can finally recover from this era of MMO-death.
>i played a game for 300 hours i didn't like so i could argue about it
or you could just not be in these threads and not have wasted those 300 hours?
>willing to take play a game you dislike for 300 hours to more “authentically” argue on Ganker
Your time is very cheap. Want to be my maid?
Sorry, anon but morpgs cannot die. Their slaves wasted already too much time on it to leave it. Just look at wow trying to kill itself so hard and the morons don't let it go.
i'm sure this is all really true and you're not just a dime a dozen "le troon game" poster
also
>for troons and gays
world of warcraft: the woman within
>The rest of the game is just a glorified dress up doll game for troons and gays like you
I know. WoW's pretty fricking shit.
People literally raid all fricking day with zero transmog in classic. This isn't the clapback you thought it was.
oh no
anyway-
no one fricking plays retail queer
no you just play a solved 20 year old version for homosexuals who can't let go of their past and use it as some time machine to return to when they were still young and hopeful and weren't so scared of the world.
but don't worry, i have a little something for you too
I play a private server with custom content in it because its a much better solution to playing a pozzed boring weeb-filled mess of a game that has a single good expansion and shit everything else
>private server troony
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
you keep posting pics of retail even though you've been rebuffed several times over this.
Is it autism?
no it's just fun to post while you peawiener over playing the russian bootleg of a game developed by and for troons
>develped by and for troons
You realize you're defending XIV, right?
>i just play garbage fanfiction
>but its better than weeb
Frick off weeb
i warned you
>mess of a nu-mmo
>reinstall wow
wow is the king of nu-mmos lul
2004 was 20 years ago
Yes. Are you mad about it? The game sucks and is literally a spawning ground for troons and pedos to play dressup all day.
>You didn't get to SHB!!!!!
Good. If this game only has a single good moment in it that takes 400 hours to get to it's a fricking waste and deserves to be trashed.
i don't believe that you proudly claiming to have wasted 300 hours on a game you don't like gives you the basis on which to argue, because you're the type of person who values your time so little that you're willing to waste 300 hours on something you don't even like.
and you admit you don't have the full experience as you didn't even get to shadowbringers
what leg do you think you have to stand on?
Why do you want to hang out with troons and pedos?
>2004 was 20 years ago
lololo oh no no
he's a classictroon
don't forget to get all your world buffs and minmaxed gear for that raid fight that got resolved 18 years ago and can be done with half the raid group, lil buckingson
umm sis your ERP endgame!?!?!
your clubbing endgame!?!?!
login to only download more mods??
stop making our game look bad!!!
Imagine being so brain dead you can’t tell a hour into something if you like it or not, if this isn’t bait I legitimately pity you.
homosexuals like you would continue to tell me I didn't "give it a fair chance"
KYS.
can you drop the larp, wowtroony?
what LARP? This is the realest I've been on this site in years.
they aren't sending their best
I lol'd when this homosexual died
or you could just not participate in threads about a game you don't like and no one would tell you you didn't give it a fair chance
Go be a moron somewhere else
This guy is just taking L after L. please stop, you're already dead
Nah it won't include a proper booty slider
if only
>DRG is a hard class guize!
What are you doing homie? Just jump. Just jump moron. It's that easy.
>Weird 30s cooldowns being tied up
>Piano 2 minute window
>Cursed pull jump tech
>Drift jump by .5 gcd? Get fricked, you lost Stardiver 7 minutes later in the fight
>JUMP ANIMATION LOCK DURING EXASQUARE
skill issue
just jump bro
>piano 2 minute window
I swear I feel like all you guys who b***h about an opener being too busy or "clunky" need to rework your actual toolbar. Because I'm falling asleep for every fricking 2 minute window. The only clunky thing I can see about DRG burst is fitting in the 3 buffs.
>The only clunky thing I can see about DRG burst is fitting in the 3 buffs.
to be fair the only clunky thing about that is the fact that dragon sight requires 5000 presses before activating
no it doesnt you dont play the game dragon sight works with one click
>same 5 images
>same 5 generic "haha game bad posts"
dump your folder now
dump it
for
free
I agree, dump your Lalafell folder.
You can easily look them up aswell, I guess they are just bored or something
ok
GIVE CATBOX OR TWITTER
no
have a modbestia
finally, the reason why I came into this thread.
is purple lalafel stil here?
Yea. Got conjurer to lvl 15 last night. Working on lancer now
LETSSSSSSSSSSSSSS FRICKINGG G)00000000000000000000000000000000000000
>Working on lancer
You have good taste and a promising future
Respect
mmmm candy 🙂
apparentely yoshop is saying that dawntrail will be 3-4x more solid than anything before so yes
>all the drama around HW cycle
>tfw I was just having an amazing time with HW DRK
I miss my "clunky" 3.0 DRK. I miss keeping myself alive in dungeons while I hear the screech of abyssal drain in my ears. I miss seeing my mana fricking jump up when I AOE in dungeons. I miss scourge. I miss low blow and reprisal procs. I miss my haste on blood weapon.
Funny seeing xivsissies sneed when confronted with FACT. They hated him because he told the truth.
I played through Heavensward when it came out and it was much more enjoyable than Endwalker, I feel like a lot of you didn't play it and are just parroting what you've heard online.
>i had shit taste then and therefore my opinion is right
naw, hw was dogshit cope
Are you guys ready for an entire expansion of Wuk Lamat's dogshit voice acting and writing? I can't wait for the "sad" moment of Dawntrail to happen with absolutely zero emotional buildup and our character acting sad over it while in reality it falls completely flat and I'll be laughing myhead off at how terrible it all is.
Gonna give you an Oscar for the imaginary scenarios in your head, pal.
Yes and I took off 5 days for it, I can’t fricking wait and I’m so hyped for it
Damn Black person you've already invented an imaginary storyline to get mad at, we're fricking speedrunning the outrage bait
>People say they are hyped for Dawntrail and use the fact that the main writer did Sorrow of Werlyt as a reason to be excited
>mfw it only makes me dread the expansion even more
Why couldn't Ishikawa just fricking stay as the lead writer? Sorrow of Werlyt is an ultimate test of whether someone can identify dogshit writing from good. (its dogshit)
You think it's dogshit because Gaius's parenting practices were made out to be clown-worthy don't you
werlyt was good frick off
Werlyt was the only story I cared about in SHB, Ishikawa is extremely overrated, are you a fujo perchance? Did you only begin to care about the game in SHB?
>Sorrow of Werlyt is an ultimate test of whether someone can identify dogshit writing from good. (its dogshit)
It’s obviously female-fetish material, whole thing drips with the more sewer aspects of female perversion (rape, masochism, etc)
It isn't even fetish material, the core ethos of Sorrow of Werlyt is "Gaius is a moron and Garlean patriotism turns you into a moron."
>patriotism turns you into a moron
yes
Yes but also specifically Garlean patriotism. These are people so off in the ass end of nowhere and so brainwashed that they believe magic doesn't exist while not thinking about what ceruleum uses as an actual fuel, and they don't have any real aetherochemistry or alchemy industry that we know of beyond "they trade with Radz-at-Han" so it's especially more baffling. The average Garlean really is just a fricking idiot
>patriotism
>bad
troon detected
you're the troon, mutt
>It isn't even fetish material, t
*queue scene of an shirtless ottermode au ra having hot irons pressed on his back and moaning*
Female perverts exist, they get off on different things than male perverts, many of them quite strange
THE SECOND HALF OF THE SENTENCE homie QUOTE THE SECOND HALF OF THE SENTENCE
>whole thing drips with the more sewer aspects of female perversion (rape, masochism, etc)
Don't forget people acting completely irrationally, a hallmark of woman behaviors.
we can only hope wut lmao isn't on the screen every second of the msq
Wuk Lamat is our trans icon chud. So I am so happy to see her btfo the chuds from my game.
I will play through Dawntrail ASAP and then begin working on a mod to replace Wuk Lamat's voice with that AI tiktok girl voice and release it to experience the troony firestorm. Witness me.
I play in JP, don't care.
I played through the trial and dropped it around level 30. This game is one giant maze and is a convoluted mess. Not to mention the netcode is horrible even gachashit has better netcode.
You're just looking at the animations instead of the cast times
>glrlglglhlglh
what you sound like with that poop covered dick in your mouth
Lul shitter got hit by mechanics
better than you
Haha, heh
I didn't get hit
Look at the cast time shitter
Nope, you suck at this game cope.
I beat this game, you got filtered at level 30, no wonder they are nerfing everything now, when this is the kind of new players they are getting
when did I say I got filtered?
I beat the game as well. Cleared ultimates etc. Think you're coping with how bad you are at this game.
dropped the game at 30 after clearing ultimates.....
.... fricking powerful
He's a 1.0 veteran too
Yes I did beat the game your point? You think because I dropped the FREE trial at 30, I dont have another account? Delusional~
>I played through the trial and dropped it around level 30
?
i'm sad about blizzcon too anons. but you can still have a good time playing OG
I don't care if you don't like melee
I need more melee screenshots
QRD?
Blizzcon canceled this year, most likely because they don't have anything to announce
ohhh
of course
of course something happened to cause wowbucks to shit their diapers in xiv threads
i should've known
blizzcon isn't happening. lost like breast milk from the lactation room fridge
the news immediately (and i mean within 10 minutes) brought high levels of shitposting to the ffxiv threads
>why dont people like our game?
>I know lets make a boogeyman!!
>ha see its wow players ahit posting see guys no one can dislike our game~
mental illness
i'm him. i'm the guy doing everything
there is no more surefire way to confirm that the guy's right than to reply with this
Blizzcon 2024 got cancelled. They promised to return another year, but I have a feeling that just like E3 when they said the same thing, they're not returning.
Which doesn't surprise me one bit. Blizzcon 2023 failed to sell out their tickets, to the point that scalpers had to start selling them at a loss
what kind of low double digit IQ moron would actually want to visit a nublizzard exhibit?
>reality of the “NEET master race”
Grim
How's everyone feelin g now that the Savior of XIV is back in action?
Feels like it's time to go see if his NSFW art accounts are back up
I bullied this gay when that shit kicked off because anyone who manages to make heterosexuality sound gay deserves to be shoved into a locker
Average femroe enjoyer
He's the quintessential man who put his money where his mouth is when he talked about "dommy mommy" and is actually into it instead of going apeshit over the female version of that one Tumblr gif of a guy undoing his belt and pointing down
>man
next your going to say wuk lamat's english VA is a woman. Lol!
I liked Sorrow of Werlyt for being related to the actual fricking setting and not the isekai world.
i dont know how to tell you this mmorpg bros but raids and ultimates arent hard it is all content aimed towards casuals
I’m a girl and I found werlyt erotic. I also watch videos of major surgeries on YouTube for fun.
>Only people who liked shb and ew were newbies who hated or didn't care about ARR-SB lore and setting
What didn't we already know
>DT will be the second shortest MSQ only beaten by HW
Grim