Yes it is pozzed
Yes the gunplay is garbage
Yes the controls are cumbersome
However
You CANNOT in good faith tell me that there is a better open world experience in ANY game
Yes it is pozzed. Yes the gunplay is garbage. Yes the controls are cumbersome. However
Why is it hat Ganker the majority of threads have to include the words pozzed or woke?
What words
Elden Ring and BOTW mog it in open world. RDR2 looks better, sure, but other than that, it's boring.
Because reddit loves to false flag as 4chan.
Nah to both those games and they’re different open world games too. Elden ring is close to rdr2 but botw is nowhere near the two. Just completely empty with nothing to do
>Elden Ring and BOTW mog it in open world
lol. no.
>BOTW
you fr?
Maybe because the majority of games today are pozzed?
The better question is why people get so mad when it's pointed out.
Even outside of the context of games or games today anons use it. You'll have anons say that MK9 is somehow woke and anti-woke at the exact same time for instance
People usually want to talk about video games and not politics
>People usually want to talk about video games and not politics
Can't talk about one without the other nowadays.
You can and the multiple other video game boards do it. It's just this one has a fetish for post op trannies
Funny how no one brought them up until you did.
I prefer moron gay garbage but to each their own
I don't know but I blame trannies.
people on here wanted Arthur saying the n-word once every ten minutes of gameplay and rockstar didn't do that. also a couple black characters in camp. Sadie is a garbage character, though. Just complete ass.
Pozzed is a good word because it instantly annoys all the gays, see this thread
If your life revolves around gays and their feelings you're a moron
don't insult the morons. imagine seething about trannies for a decade
we can't all be gay lovers like you
Hey I'm not the one waking up each morning wondering what trannies and gays think of what I said on social media anon. I'll leave that for you morons
see
thanks for proving my point
Thanks for proving my point as well anon
mine's better because it's accurate. you're just saying random swears like a 13 year old
election tourists overstaying their visa
>Tendie is bald ugly pale loser
and they keep saying they are not from reddit
Otherwise it doesn't provoke the neural reaction in the monke brain
90% of those posts are mine.
Beautiful graphics and a charismatic and dare I say likeable MC. Other than that, the game is typical rockstar movie game garbage. Like another anon said, Elden Ring and BOTW have better open worlds, and that’s not saying much since those games also have very flawed game design due to their open worlds.
>breath of the shit
>better open world
Lmfao, delusional. Touch grass, terminal shut-in
>Yes it is pozzed
I'm not an American so it's not an issue
>Yes the gunplay is garbage
wrong
>Yes the controls are cumbersome
wrong. the horse controls are sometimes buggy though
>You CANNOT in good faith tell me that there is a better open world experience in ANY game
true
>>Yes the controls are cumbersome
>wrong.
Play on PC
The animation input delay is there on pc too lol. Also how can you claim the gunplay isn't extremely bland if you're a pc player.
because I play with a controller.
That sounds even worse. The game is practically playing itself for you, you're just pressing lt then rt
What's wrong with that? RDR2 is literally a beautiful movie game, it's not a real game outside of hunting and fishing.
Rdr2 threads shouldn't be allowed in Ganker. It's not even a real videogame.
imagine being this buckbroken by pornography and industrialized foods
Imagine shilling for the woke west kek
I'm shilling for games that hire Lead Vegetation Artists, I don't care about the culture war chudbro
I don't think you care about video games either
what's a real game
Max Payne
Nothing if you like it. I mean my only point was that the shooting was mediocre, you were the one who disagreed.
I enjoyed it, but I can see why you'd say it's mediocre, Max Payne 3 still has the best gun play of any R* game don't know why they didn't continue with that.
what the fuck happened to rockstar
It's what happens when Nerd's stop making games because they love games and start making them because they love being garden gnomes, and they hire women.
I agree, that actually disappointed me a lot with gta 5 too. The way they described michaels ability made me think I'd be able to go full max payne in gta 5. I don't understand how they devolved on that front.
they just tried to do the most realistic animations possible. sorry humans can't change velocity from 0 to 100 like in zelda or sonic, they take a while to move from one place to another and take a while to accelerate to normal speed. if that feels cumbersome it's because realistic is cumbersome, and they didn't aim for the adhd zelda audience but for peak realism which untainted humans appreciate
Preach
Video games should not strive for realism. Ever.
Why?
Because unless it's an actual sim, we already live in the real world, you dipshit. Why not control fantastical beings on fantastical worlds the likes of which we've never seen? Basing everything on a staunch desire for realism takes zero imagination and only placates graphics fags and people who think video games should be "mature," thought-provoking experiences over actually being fun.
Nah that's a shit take. There are an infinite number of real world realistic situations which would create fun gameplay, without attempting to be "mature" or "thought-provoking"
Because you're still a child and fail to understand that the real world will always be richer than any human-derived reality. Tolkien was great just because his stuff is steeped in real world myth and folklore. It's why the people raised on reality write great books and it's why people raised on books write shit ones.
In real life, when I want to move, I move instantly.
In Rdr, it takes full second for my character to respond to my input.
this is bluetooth+actual input lag+tv latency
also, design choice on top of that
This is why I will never play a console
funny how people notice it more when playing rdr2, sort of like rdr2 is particularly egregiously terrible, what a crazy concept
>noooooo not 300 milliseconds
input lag is a meme.
>tfw there will never be an Undead Nightmare 2
undead nightmare wasn't good
>pozzed
Doesnt mean anything
What’s hilarious is that very few people even realise there’s a hidden “game” in Rockstar’s worlds and they have not yet been even begin to be evaluated correctly.
If it plays anything like GTAIV, RDR, L.A. Noire, and GTAV. I'm out.
I don't know what the fuck happened to Rockstar starting with the seventh gen consoles, but their entire mandate seem to pretty much be "NO FUN ALLOWED".
Why are their animations so god damn fucking slow? Why is 50% of all missions just introducing shitty gimmick game mechanics you will completely ignore after doing the mission? Why is the other 50% of all missions just riding in a car/horse listening to endless dialogue?
dopamine monkey. you don't understand how game design or narratives work.
All video game narratives are inherently shit by virtue of being video games, no point in even trying.
>If it were long cut-scenes instead you'd still be whining.
I would prefer regular cutscenes. I loath all these gameplay mixed with cinematics/story shit. I'd rather just sit back and relax and get a well animated cutscene that is interesting to watch over having to constantly hold move forward and stare at a tailpipe/horse tail for 20 hours while nothing interesting happens. Might as well be a glorified audiobook at that point.
>retard doesn't even know how to play the game.
on PC, you turn on the cinematic cam and hold space and your horse automatically follows the NPC you need to follow. retard
>retard doesn't even know how to play the game.
I haven't played the game period. At least read the posts.
>you turn on the cinematic cam and hold space and your horse automatically follows the NPC you need to follow
Doesn't really help solve the issue. It's still just shitty filler rather than an actual hand produced cutscene with thought out cinematography and animations.
At least MGS:TTP were kind enough to give you those stupid tapes so you can play the game while listening to the endless exposition dumps.
>I haven't played the game
>developing characters naturalistically = shitty filler, exposition dumps
>wants immaculately choreographed cutscenes for bread and butter character writing
>metal gear shit
gay moron moebrain leave and never come back
>I haven't played the game
No shit. I asked if RDR2 was as tedious as Rockstars other modern releases.
>developing characters naturalistically = shitty filler, exposition dumps
Yes. If you need never ending 5-10 min dialogue dumps to develop your characters, it's shit writing.
>wants immaculately choreographed cutscenes for bread and butter character writing
No, I want bread and butter character writing replaced by well written cutscenes that focus the story and characters.
>metal gear shit
Kind of highlights how boring most modern Rockstar games is when even fucking MGS does something better.
>RDR 1 and 2 are some of the very few games out there that actually make riding a horse engaging and fun.
Galloping across the world on your own pace can certainly be enjoyable. Watching two characters endlessly scream dialogue at each other over horseback however is not.
>if you need to write about your characters, it's shit writing
nightmarish
You can make an engaging character in a 20 minute episode of a TV show if you are a good writer. Rockstar is just shit at writing.
Not sure about RDR2, but throwing bricks, riding the subway, towing cars, herding cattle, taming horses, online dating immediately springs to mind. Granted even in San Andreas these issues were starting to appear.
RDR 1 and 2 are some of the very few games out there that actually make riding a horse engaging and fun. So the simple act of casually galloping through a beautiful countryside is already quite enjoyable in and of itself and certainly beats watching a cutscene. Again, it is a very slowburn game and an anomaly for modern AAA releases, as it is basically the antithesis to the more popular dopamine hamster wheel way of open world design.
It's also the perfect compromise. Conveying the same amount of information in cutscenes is exactly what would make RDR2 officially a movie game. Shit is embarrassing.
>Why is the other 50% of all missions just riding in a car/horse listening to endless dialogue?
Because it's a story driven game. How else do you want them to convey the plot to you? If it were long cutscenes instead you'd still be whining.
Cutscenes are preferable because they can be skipped.
>this stupid movie game should have had more movies so it wouldn't have to be such a movie game
incoherent blather
Don't even attempt to play it because whatever shitty mechanics existed in past Rockstar games are amplified here times ten. And there's massive input lag. The worst I've ever seen in a game. No wonder why it lost game of the year
>weighted animations = input lag
you will never be a game journalist
Moving your analog stick in any direction or pressing any button, and your character refusing to respond immediately is the definition of input lag. Outside of Rockstar games, this is called input lag. Because Rockstar games are the only games you play, I can understand why you would think this is "weighted movement". It doesn't even exist in real life. Weighted movement would be more akin to God of War. But Kratos still responds when you move. Slow animations or wind up aren't bad. Input lag is bad.
>umm it's actually bad on purpose my dude
Believe it or not, fanboys actually claim bad game design is intentional. In any other game input lag is criticized. It was a major flaw with Gta5 as well. It's just worse here. The Witcher has to come out with a completely new game mode in order for it to be playable. It had the same shitty lag. The online mode for Rdr2 had its lag reduced because pvp was that bad.
Rockstar acknowledged to hiring a psychologist that wanted to keep the "mash A to gallop" feature because it tricks the brain into thinking it's accomplishing something despite doing nothing in an empty environment.
>dopamine hamster wheel
That's what it is. I'll link the evidence if your next post claims it isn't true.
That's what the entire medium is retard, the point is Rockstar is at extremely good at hiding these basic skinner mechanics behind a high fidelity open world.
I mean, every game is meant to release dopamine, but it is absolutely not the typical open world dopamine farm that you see in other games. Your saved infographs aren't going to change anything about that. I mean, you even admitted as much by basically saying the open world is empty and boring. If it was designed like a Ubisoft open world for instance, you could call it many things, but it certainly wouldn't be empty and boring, because you'd be bombarded by quests, side content, collecting shit etc around every corner. In RDR 2 the downtime between stuff happening in the open world is much wider than in most other open world games, which is a double edged blade. ADHD zoomers will not be able to enjoy the game, but people who don't have the tiktok mindrot and are still mentally capable of reading a book for instance will usually love the game for it because it creates a much more realistic and immersive experience.
nails it
>ADHD zoomers
You all say the exact same thing like a hivemind. Calling other people zoomers doesn't automatically make you an adult. The only people that defend Rdr2 are children (zoomers). I understand that playing Rockstar games makes you feel like a hard guy, but it's just a videogame. We were all like you back then with Gta. For me it was San Andreas. Like you, I thought I was a tough guy and better than my peers.
And no, it's a very unrealistic game. Your character has a neurological disorder where he doesn't react to inputs. Bounty hunters spawn out of thin air. Your reticle zips across the screen during gunfights. Superhuman dead eye. Carrying hundreds of items in your satchel. The politics. There's dozens more I could list.
Again, proving you're a child by using the realism argument. You're definitely under 20.
What the fuck are you on about
Who thinks they're a tough guy for playing Gta
projection the post
Only a child or zoomer defends Rockstar to such an extent. They think they're tough guys because they play Rockstar games. More proof of this is their ignorance when it comes to the politics in the game. They legitimately think leftism was rampant and will argue in favor of these beliefs. Some even rewrite history and claim prejudice was exaggerated.
>introducing shitty gimmick game mechanics you will completely ignore after doing the mission?
Valid complaint and good question.
Name one. I guarantee you it's mission-sensitive and not Rockstar introducing a game mechanic just to dump it unceremoniously.
Stuff like robbing stagecoaches, selling horses etc. Hell rockstar have been doing this shit for decades in all of their games. If the bounty system wasn't extremely dogshit maybe those activities could've been enjoyable. As is you're doing an activity that most likely reward less money than you need to pay off the bounty for doing it in the first place.
>Yes the gunplay is garbage
>Yes the controls are cumbersome
This two (plus tedium) ensure that I'll never play it.
I was cool with the gunplay and didn't mind the story. The open world really is fantastic with all the unique events in it though. I wish more developers had the budget and manpower to also have the same sheer amount of unique content as RDR2 did.
It's honestly mindblowing to think that RDR2 came out 5 years ago and still not a single game has come even close to producing a similarly impressive open world with realistic weather effects, lighting etc. Video game technology truly has stagnated in the last decade.
>realistic
because that's gay shit
I disagree with you but perhaps you could explain what aspects of RDR2 make it the best open world experience?
>yeah it's pozzed
stopped reading bud
dude there's this crazy open world game I've been playing called real life. it's wild; there's so much to explore I don't think I'll ever see it all.
Nah man, it's garbage.
it didn't bother me that arthur wasn't period-accurate racist and sexist, if you expected the protagonist of one of the most expensive AAA games ever made to be an open chud, you are a moron
that being said the game was so boring and tedious, everything felt like a chore
the first rdr was infinitely better
deHispanicable moron-lovers always feel the need to defend pozzed media
RDR2 is a Masterpiece
>You CANNOT in good faith tell me that there is a better open world experience in ANY game
It really depends on what you're looking for in an OW game. RDR 2 definitely is king when it comes to design and feel. But if you want sandboxy shit stalker is better for example.
I fucking hate 2 so God damn much and I'm sick of people defending the problems with the game by saying its immersive.
moron I don't care that its immersive if the immersion is a detriment to the gameplay
99% of the game's problems are your problems, I guarantee it
I don't know. The world is really pretty to look at, but there wasn't a whole lot to do in it. What the game really needed is a proper economy, more stuff to buy and more realistic prices so that you had a reason to go hunt rare pelts and shit like that. Maybe there's a mod that does those things.
>conomy, more stuff to buy and more realistic prices so that you had a reason to go hunt rare pelts and shit like that.
Definitely agree. I don't understand why they didn't just incorporate some of the features from the MP into SP. Also you should've been able to buy houses.
The economy is balanced in a way that would suit RDRO grinding just like how GTAV has a gimped economy designed to funnel idiots into handing over real world cash
The fact that RDRO flopped is poetic justice and sadly hurts this game
Barely anybody knows this, but there's actually a quest hidden right in front of your eyes that changes everything about how you experience the game.
Which one?
>so that you had a reason to go hunt rare pelts and shit like that.
The game gives you plenty of reason with the upgrade system. You'll be hunting pelts from start to finish.
I know some of you spend 300hrs just running in circles , but RDR2 is one of the best examples of doing economy right.
I never saw any need to upgrade anything.
>but RDR2 is one of the best examples of doing economy right.
lmao, you're drenched in cash from start to finish. The only part of the "economy" that you actually interact with is gathering the pelts
Literally no scarcity of money especially after the bank robbery in chapter 3. Then you have to play a story about desperately needing money while Arthur has 10000 dollars sitting in his satchel.
>You CANNOT in good faith tell me that there is a better open world experience in ANY game
I define open world as a game where you make your own adventure. RDR2 just like any other AAA "open world" game isn't that. You either holding developers hand throughout entire walkthrough of there's just nothing else to do beside just wandering around pretty scenery.
It's more than just scenery. Look at it closer.
Side quests are filler content pretty much. Remove main story and no one would say it's a great game.
Neither of those are the "main quest".
ackhyually those are called sandbox games
I liked the hunting.
I just want to do violence to people in funny haha way and shoot horse with dynamite
Rockstar Goyslop are not even open world games. They have largely linear quests and stories.
Breath of the Wild
GTAIV
Chinatown Wars
Tears of the Kingdom
Saints Row 2
Crackdown
Red Dead 1
L.A. Noire
American Fugitive
San Andreas
>L.A. Noire
are you for real
I like it
bro I liked it too but the open world was the worst part about it
This, the open world was pointless there was fuck all to see or do. Great game regardless though
>trying to sneak your lame Zeldashit in with those good games
LMAO you’re not that slick
>Zelda horse riding
>Horse will gallop until you command it to stop
>RDR2 horse riding
>Hold A to listen to shitty dialogue
Really makes u think
TotK's horse will stop as soon as it stumbles upon a *gasp* a slope and it shits and sharts itself as you struggle to get it to reverse. Making a horseriding system worse than RDR2 is an achievement but by golly Nintendo found a way.
It depends what you want from your open world. For me, modded Skyrim is still the GOAT of open world. RDR2 is unrivalled in attention to detail but ultimate it's wasted and nothing more than eye candy and it would have been way more enjoyable if it just let you create a character and live a cowboy life sim instead of having such an overstretched story that has strong dissonance with taking your sweet time and exploring.
This game is truly a piece of art. Nobody has matched its technique since. HOWEVER its gay cover shooter gameplay has been done millions of times already and is boring as shit.
>You CANNOT in good faith tell me that there is a better open world experience in ANY game
Breath of the Wild
Tears of the Kingdom
>children puzzle toy simulators
go back to /lgbt/
>Elden Ring but way shittier
Breath of the Wild
Red Dead Redemption (the first game)
Rockstar still make games with obscure content that can only be found by combing every blade of grass, talking to every npc, no markers or objectives, there are people who like this kind of thing maybe, I for one wouldn't pick up a hooker and then expect her to cocktease me by playing hide and seek in the carpark
Volition's Saints Row picked up the ball after San Andreas
I'd love for something similar to happen now. A fun-orientated alternative in the world of cowboy rootin' tootin' games. I'll take mine with extra n-words
Yes I can. Sorry.
>rockshitters itt trying to semen slurp for cockstar
dont care about your copes you lost goty to a Snoy game. you lost even after all that shilling on v. get fucked your walking simulator is trash
Read dead 2 is a masterpiece, anyone who says otherwise has brain issues
Too many garbage text dump tutorials. Just like how you explore the world, you should learn the gameplay through exploring.
>Yes the controls are cumbersome
This combined with the sloth like movement kills all the fun.
the tap X to build house was the best mission, I like that song that played
>You CANNOT in good faith tell me that there is a better open world experience in ANY game
RDR2 had the most boring and useless open world i have ever seen.
Witcher 3 mogs RDR2, easy.
But thats not saying much, RDR2 is just a trash, extremely overhyped game.
Its even worse than Reddit Ring.
rd2 is way above those games in literally every regard lol, they don't even reach rd2 feet
>Witcher 3
Pssssh, gtfo of here. Witcher 3 has arguably a better story but it has a boring open world. RDR2 is a marvel to explore for the details alone.
You type like a fag. Though you're correct.
i disagree.
i played both, and witcher 3 always sucked me in for longer, exploring was just more fun.
I loved this game the first time I played it. Since then I've tried to do a second playthrough 4 times and I can't do it because it's fucking boring. Literally the only value it has is it's story and characters which is something you can only get the full effect of the first time.
>I loved this game the first time I played it.
>second playthrough 4 times and I can't do it because it's fucking boring.
admirable, it took me a thousand attempts to finish this boring ass game even once.
>Literally the only value it has is it's story and characters
thats literally the worst aspect of the whole game.
the story and the characters.
i hated everybody.
arthurt the fucking dumbass loser, i wanted to shoot dutch in the fucking face since the first minute, same with micah, everybody.
every single character in this trash game was an insufferable gay acting so undrealisticly retarded, i just couldnt get into this stupid game.
the sky looks pretty i guess, but thats it.
>enjoy the open world
>after admitting that all mechanics that let you interact with the open world are dogshit
I mean you do you I guess but at that point this is basically just a movie game and I hate those.
>people defend this unfun, bloated, clumsy shit because 'great open world experience'
>'realistic' simulation video games are great and not a waste of everybody's time
fucking unironically go outside into the world and do some hiking or camping or something. i cannot take this type of thinking seriously at all. you are a failed human.
>but but but but the horse shit is melting the snow! look at it!
>Yes it is pozzed
>Yes the gunplay is garbage
Literal schizo
the nice thing about shooters is that the main concept is so piss easy that it's almost impossible to really screw up.
with any kind of sword and shield fighty game there are millions of ways to make it suck, either the weights isn't there or the controls don't feel direct enough or you're not given enough options.
with point-and-shooty games, all you have to program for is [IF DOT OVERLAPS NPC HEAD & PLAYER PRESSES SHOOT BUTTON: NPC DIES]
I am too burnt out by Rockstar open world to enjoy it.
Sleeping Dogs was an amazing open world, I'd say it comes close at least
UH OH, MISTER
>You CANNOT in good faith tell me that there is a better open world experience in ANY game
Even Bethesda's games are above RDR2. Your empty open world which is dozens of IRL miles long is not fun to navigate if it's a fucking slog to cross even a fraction of it.