You allowed this shit to happen.

You allowed this shit to happen. You couldn't just tell these people to frick off, and now this shit's been going on for years.

https://www.mariowiki.com/Talk:Vivian

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >drama in the mario wiki
    le west... has fallen...
    maribros, its over

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks to this wiki I just learned that "Aromantic Asexual" is an orientation.

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >https://www.mariowiki.com/Talk:Vivian
    I don't know what is and is not satire anymore.
    OP, why has Mario drama in particular triggered this response from you? This moronation has been industry-wide for years, plenty of people told them to frick off, and it seemed to just make it worse.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >OP, why has Mario drama in particular triggered this response from you?

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dumb asiatic devs can't decide if it's female or male either. Blame the jappos

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      No. They knew exactly what the character is. And the japanese text showed.

      How about the English wiki list her a woman as she is one in the English localization and the Japanese wiki lists him as a man as he is one the Japanese version of the game and then have a separate page for differences between versions? Is that not straight-forward enough?

      Facts are racist and transphobic anon

      But Paper Mario refers to him as "Otokonoko", lit. transexual

      >lit. transexual
      You don't know japanese.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah the Japanese text shows male, and then they intentionally translated it as female. Like I said, the japs are the ones responsible for the uncertainty

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao I can't believe people still argue over it. Either it's a gag that beldam calls her a man because that's insulting to a girl, or it's a gag that she's secretly a troon, either way it's a small joke for a one-off side character from 2004

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    How about the English wiki list her a woman as she is one in the English localization and the Japanese wiki lists him as a man as he is one the Japanese version of the game and then have a separate page for differences between versions? Is that not straight-forward enough?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Is that not straight-forward enough?
      No, you problematic cis-scum male-gaze nazi pedophile leftist rightwing trumpy dumpy

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    still far better than mistranslating a japanese interview and then insisting samus is trans, citing yourself as a reference

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      lolwut

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lunatic was vandalizing Samus's article on Wikipedia several years ago and getting into a gigantic argument on the talk and edit pages as people kept reverting his edits that said Samus was a transexual. I think you can still find the bruhaha if you scroll through the talk page enough.

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is gonna be fricking great.
    >if Nintendo recognizes Vivian as a male, it will show a cross-dresser being bullied, which will make trans seethe
    >if Nintendo chooses to still keep Vivian as a female, trannies are gonna seethe they're not being represented

    Either way, it's gonna be fun to watch Ganker and Twitter having a meltdown

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it will show a cross-dresser being bullied, which will make trans seethe
      No it won't, they'd change it. If NoA is given enough power, they'll just use they/them for Vivian. The only way trannies will even remotely lose is if Vivian is only female and there's absolutely nothing to hint otherwise.

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Traditionally and even today, calling a woman a man is an insult, and Beldam was trying to insult Vivian
    > Paper Mario is a humorous series, and humor poking fun at Vivian's perceived lack of femininity would have been okay in Japan (but once again, open to misinterpretation in the United States). Calling Vivian the youngest "brother" could be the game's way of mocking Vivian if they were a women.
    >There are no other references to Vivian being male in the Japanese game

    Here is your fricking proof. Let it be known that for decades now, homosexual localizers have shoved their gay headcanon into everything, such that people don't even know what's reality anymore.

    And I STILL bet you that people will make a controversy out of this!

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I always read that this was Goombella questioning the 3 being sisters even though one of them isn't a woman.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      But Paper Mario refers to him as "Otokonoko", lit. transexual

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Otokonoko
        No it isn't.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otokonoko

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Same shit.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            A gay male with a fetish for wearing wigs and getting penetrated "like a lady" is just that - a fetish freak homosexual.

            Completely different thing from a trans person.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >"Otokonoko", lit. transexual
        You don't know Japanese.

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    go get 'em yourself, (paper) tiger

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    anything other than the canon japanese of cis male is a failure

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >femboys are trannies now
    LITERALLY playing into their politics lol
    useful idiots i swear

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >all these gymnastics to make him a troon

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    is this the thread? (bros who know, and appreciate this ritual question, I give you a mwah)

  15. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Beyond getting every fact straight, she should be referred to as she, because it is disrespectful and rude to refer to anyone as anything other than their preferred pronoun. She may not be real, but she is depicted as trans, and we should be respectful of that. Her struggle may only be a work of fiction, but it's all very real for some people, like myself.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >work of fiction
      >real for some people
      You need to be at least 18 to post here

  16. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    What will actually happen?

  17. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    its kinda fricked you can't predict the outcome of how they will handle it

  18. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    dunno why but the guy that signs all of his posts with giratina, dialga, and palkia is cracking me up. no one is taking that man seriously

  19. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >You couldn't just tell these people to frick off
    "We" did, the issue is that "they" didn't.
    Don't blame us for this crap.

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