You allowed this shit to happen. You couldn't just tell these people to frick off, and now this shit's been going on for years.
https://www.mariowiki.com/Talk:Vivian
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You allowed this shit to happen. You couldn't just tell these people to frick off, and now this shit's been going on for years.
https://www.mariowiki.com/Talk:Vivian
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>drama in the mario wiki
le west... has fallen...
maribros, its over
Thanks to this wiki I just learned that "Aromantic Asexual" is an orientation.
>https://www.mariowiki.com/Talk:Vivian
I don't know what is and is not satire anymore.
OP, why has Mario drama in particular triggered this response from you? This moronation has been industry-wide for years, plenty of people told them to frick off, and it seemed to just make it worse.
>OP, why has Mario drama in particular triggered this response from you?
Dumb asiatic devs can't decide if it's female or male either. Blame the jappos
No. They knew exactly what the character is. And the japanese text showed.
Facts are racist and transphobic anon
>lit. transexual
You don't know japanese.
Yeah the Japanese text shows male, and then they intentionally translated it as female. Like I said, the japs are the ones responsible for the uncertainty
Lmao I can't believe people still argue over it. Either it's a gag that beldam calls her a man because that's insulting to a girl, or it's a gag that she's secretly a troon, either way it's a small joke for a one-off side character from 2004
How about the English wiki list her a woman as she is one in the English localization and the Japanese wiki lists him as a man as he is one the Japanese version of the game and then have a separate page for differences between versions? Is that not straight-forward enough?
>Is that not straight-forward enough?
No, you problematic cis-scum male-gaze nazi pedophile leftist rightwing trumpy dumpy
still far better than mistranslating a japanese interview and then insisting samus is trans, citing yourself as a reference
lolwut
Lunatic was vandalizing Samus's article on Wikipedia several years ago and getting into a gigantic argument on the talk and edit pages as people kept reverting his edits that said Samus was a transexual. I think you can still find the bruhaha if you scroll through the talk page enough.
This is gonna be fricking great.
>if Nintendo recognizes Vivian as a male, it will show a cross-dresser being bullied, which will make trans seethe
>if Nintendo chooses to still keep Vivian as a female, trannies are gonna seethe they're not being represented
Either way, it's gonna be fun to watch Ganker and Twitter having a meltdown
>it will show a cross-dresser being bullied, which will make trans seethe
No it won't, they'd change it. If NoA is given enough power, they'll just use they/them for Vivian. The only way trannies will even remotely lose is if Vivian is only female and there's absolutely nothing to hint otherwise.
>Traditionally and even today, calling a woman a man is an insult, and Beldam was trying to insult Vivian
> Paper Mario is a humorous series, and humor poking fun at Vivian's perceived lack of femininity would have been okay in Japan (but once again, open to misinterpretation in the United States). Calling Vivian the youngest "brother" could be the game's way of mocking Vivian if they were a women.
>There are no other references to Vivian being male in the Japanese game
Here is your fricking proof. Let it be known that for decades now, homosexual localizers have shoved their gay headcanon into everything, such that people don't even know what's reality anymore.
And I STILL bet you that people will make a controversy out of this!
I always read that this was Goombella questioning the 3 being sisters even though one of them isn't a woman.
But Paper Mario refers to him as "Otokonoko", lit. transexual
>Otokonoko
No it isn't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otokonoko
Same shit.
A gay male with a fetish for wearing wigs and getting penetrated "like a lady" is just that - a fetish freak homosexual.
Completely different thing from a trans person.
>"Otokonoko", lit. transexual
You don't know Japanese.
go get 'em yourself, (paper) tiger
anything other than the canon japanese of cis male is a failure
>femboys are trannies now
LITERALLY playing into their politics lol
useful idiots i swear
>all these gymnastics to make him a troon
is this the thread? (bros who know, and appreciate this ritual question, I give you a mwah)
Beyond getting every fact straight, she should be referred to as she, because it is disrespectful and rude to refer to anyone as anything other than their preferred pronoun. She may not be real, but she is depicted as trans, and we should be respectful of that. Her struggle may only be a work of fiction, but it's all very real for some people, like myself.
>work of fiction
>real for some people
You need to be at least 18 to post here
What will actually happen?
its kinda fricked you can't predict the outcome of how they will handle it
dunno why but the guy that signs all of his posts with giratina, dialga, and palkia is cracking me up. no one is taking that man seriously
>You couldn't just tell these people to frick off
"We" did, the issue is that "they" didn't.
Don't blame us for this crap.