>proto military shooter >satisfying as frick weapons >did environmental story telling a year before HL >amazing environment (hurr durr it's repetitive: i've never seen such immersive level design, it truly feels like you are in some Harkonen hell hole planet that's completely industrialized)
I wish they had a low resolution mode like the Q1 remaster instead of tying it strictly to CRT Emulation. I wanted the more "authentic" 64 look but it's kinda rough. Wonder if there's a console command to remove the scanlines
i can proudly say he got so assblasted by one of my comments he blocked me on every platform and then make a snarky remark in a followup video calling me a pedantic little frick
strangelove was some kind of proto surfing shit, never played it
couldnt give a flying frick less if im wrong i could name 5000 niche things you dont know about...i remember strangelove being a traversal mod thats it
and i dont really care because i was a quake 2 threewave clan leader, you know, i was doing what actual chads were doing at the time? not playing frickin autistic brazilian surf maps
thats why you like shit like that, because youre brown right? 🙂 its ok
that's a lotta words for "lalala i'm right ur wrong lalalalala"
get fricked you pretentious projecting homosexual, i'm whiter than sour cream
[...]
I know ggman gets a lot of hate, but what for, actually just asking, I haven't watched him in a while, he is obnoxious, but I mean did he get caught grooming or something?
he's ignorant and arrogant as frick and god forbid you correct and/or prove him wrong in public because he'll throw a melty and block/ban/delete everything you said
i can proudly say he got so assblasted by one of my comments he blocked me on every platform and then make a snarky remark in a followup video calling me a pedantic little frick
[...]
wrong, now sit the frick down you absolute clown
I know ggman gets a lot of hate, but what for, actually just asking, I haven't watched him in a while, he is obnoxious, but I mean did he get caught grooming or something?
He's just unlikeable and seems like such a try hard to me. I hate that internet speak he incorporates into his scipts. Why does he do it? Nobody is gonna laugh because you reused some old meme. You sound like an idiot. Also, my taste is different from his but that's neither here not there.
I just hate the autistic conversations he has with clips from cutscenes or movies. It's something shitty movie service commercials like to do, a grown man not trapped in a soulless marketing job shouldn't think this is a good idea.
If I see one of this thumbnails I already know exactly what his opinion on the game it going to be, I already know what he liked and didn't like about it, and I even already know when he's going to go shieeet and sonny jim.
He's an unironic paid shill. Pretty much he took EA money and """forgot"""" to disclose it. I forget what video it was for. On top of that, he's shit at the games he plays and does precisely zero research.
I think it really depends on what they tried to do with those textures. N64 games often look terrible without it because many areas were designed with the blur in mind.
i tried to play this several times in my life and have never made it further than nondescript corridors in the first level. its just. ever so slightly too shit. not awful just without nostalgia for it i have zero affinity for it
i think it would be more fun if some enemies would be less damage spongy so i can just rush through them quicker, at times i felt as i was stuck in corners trying to fight off several enemies at once and not advancing at all
One of the things that makes it good as that most of the attacks are telegraphed and avoidable so you actually have to pay attention, if the enemies died too quickly this wouldn't work.
Why? They are effectively Pinkies from Doom and nobody complains about those being too weak. Berserkers were never utilized well due to cramped level design and enemy count limits, neither of which were an issue in this new engine but they buffed them anyway.
>enemy count limits >That one mission in the new expac that constantly chucks serious sam level hordes of enemies at you >fighting a boss and suddenly a door opens releasing like 15 of those mutant lizard frickers
No they didn’t, they were fine as is. Their entire purpose is that by themselves they weren’t too dangerous but in a group of multiple types of enemies they could be very dangerous.
they turned them into literal cancer by giving them an attack that they were never meant to have based on level design where they were put in
literally the stupidest mother fricking thing they could have done that literally breaks gameplay 90% of your encounters with them
all they should have done is give them too the ability to jump down from higher platforms and give them some kind of longer range lunge melee attack making it more dangerous for the player to get close to them
thats all they had to mother fricking do
but the inbred imbecile moronic c**t in charge of game design for the remake went for the >9000 meters leap aoe attack with knockback
instead
whoever fricking decided to put that into the game deserves to be fricking fired on the spot and never work on a fricking videogame ever again
While I don't disagree with the new mechanic they've got to rebalance it.
They leech onto you from across an entire arena and it's bullshit! The radius of the attack is just too big!
It really isnt. Only the first 15 minutes or so until enemies that need 4 full blasts in the face become standard
https://i.imgur.com/CaHrPgT.png
this game is exceptional
I can take it or leave it. The weapons just dont feel that fun to shoot, mostly because of all the bullet sponge enemies.
The new levels that got added are a blast tho. Youtubers should suck a fat wiener because the new levels feel more boomer then the original
>Linear >Simple >pretty speedy >Basically no hitscanners that can hit you no matter what you're doing
It's like what you imagine when you hear about a boomer shooter for the first time. I don't absolutely love it but I find it really difficult to hate it. Completely different gameplay vibe from Quake 1 which is just like, eldritch 3D doom
I like the way there is a obvious 1 to 1 scaling of the powerful weapons you get with the enemies in the game. So every now and again they can throw a horde of episode 1 enemies at you in your fully decked out arsenal and shred through them in ways that would have been impossible before. Not a new concept I know but Q2 does it very well.
>getting like 30 of the basic footsoldiers with your 300 round chaingun and rocket launcher
No one said quake 2 was bad, just that it was the worst Quake game. Yes even 4 is better, yes in both singleplayer and multiplayer. sliding is really cool
Childhood is thinking Quake 1 is the best.
Adulthood is accepting it's Quake 2.
Grew up with the games and was salty AF when my dad downloaded the Q2 beta only to find it was an unrelated sci-fi shooter. Also, Unreal Tournament was a better game than Q3 Arena until Team Arena came out.
Q4 was and always will be shit, it's barely different enough to Doom 3 beyond the Strogg aesthetic.
i was on the action quake 2 development team, knew gooseman on irc and taught him to draw camoflague, and i have work on quake 2 extremities netpack
you are some child from Ganker who was not alive when quake 2 came out. suck my fat dick. I still have an email from paul steed in my fricking hotmail account and he's been dead longer than you've been alive probably.
hahahah no it doesn't, UT existed entirely because of how unpopular unreal was vs its budget in general
unreal multiplayer was DEAD, there were no servers, something like ~200-400 people playing for a few months after release
once again you weren't there and have zero idea what you're talking about
you can ASK about these things, you don't TELL about them, I was actually fricking there and won an unreal lan tournament lmfao suck my fricking fat dick
jesus christ stop thinking you can create reality by typing, not how it works kiddies
UT exists because of the multiplayer boom. Consider the titans that were born in these years. Team Fortress, CS, Tribes... That besides major titles like Q3 or Medal of honor multiplayer.
yes no shit that's what i said. unreal didn't actually sell well at all, they followed the obvious trend
you are welcome to continue telling me more about the era that i know more about than any other person who comes to Ganker in history though, and i was a greater part of that era than any person who comes to Ganker also
go ahead
9 months ago
Anonymous
bet you can't even tell me what strangelove was without googling it
not that anon btw, just annoyed by your high and mighty homosexualry
9 months ago
Anonymous
strangelove was some kind of proto surfing shit, never played it
9 months ago
Anonymous
>bet you can't even tell me what strangelove was without googling it
I love those sections. It's like the Strogg don't quite know how to utilize humans somehow so they just keep throwing them in giant blenders and hope for the best. >Now try Subject 256 >The guy screams and the crusher makes him explode into a puddle of gore >Hmmm... well it happened 256 times, but let's see if that changes with 257.
they knew exactly what they did, they selected humans which were suitable for stroggification, the others were just turned into pulp and made into stroyent to feed their troops. essentially extermination factories, its like the end solution for humans. strogg where designed to resemble intergalactic nazis, even the assault on stroggos was called operation overlord.
There was no stroggification process shown in the q2. Part when marines are dissasmbled is the stroyent plant, where humies are minced into stroyent, food/fuel ooze.
Closest to the strogg assembling scene was the place where you steal Tank Commander's head while he is under repair.
I was playing that and one of the MG boys fricking jumped and went prone and actually surprised me enough to take like a Quarter of my health off. The flyers are also really aggressive now, they shoot at you and close to slash with their wings, they do a lot of damage.
Just play the remaster honestly, don't listen to Ganker b***hing, the remaster works perfectly and comes with all the expansions and the N64 version. Also the music doesn't work for the original without fricking with it.
the remasters frick up the games completely, especially the quake one
always play the original version of any old game. these games are not quake 1 and quake 2 they are modified by SWEDISH PEOPLE the worlds least skilled game designers
they completely fricked up the difficulty and ai in quake for example
>how unpopular unreal was vs its budget in general
It was neck and neck with starcraft, STARCRAFT
i don't know where you got this idea but no, it was not...unreal multiplayer had a few hundred players, it was not widely played. period. it practically did not exist compared to quake, everyone just kept playing quake.
grunts shoot at you
enforcers shoot at you
zombies shoot at you
ogres shoot at you
death knights shoot at you
scrags shoot at you
vores
shamblers shoot at you
we're left with dogs, fish, knights, spawns and fiends
basically, you're a dumb Black person
It's not really removed all the way, it's more it jiggles a little bit all around, but it doesn't try to spray the ceiling. It's kinda how real full auto feels.
If you like doom 2, doom 3, quake 4, quake 2, unreal 2, halo 2, blood 2, serious sam 2, half life 2, fear 2, etc then you need to frick off. Kill sequel Black folk.
codex trannies hate absolutely everything while actually mass playing everything that comes out. its like a more extreme version of double faced contrarian Gankerners
didnt really have a problem with the low ammo until like the last 5 levels or so. but those levels go by so fast and then its over.
but yeah, n64 version was pretty meh but at least i can say i finished it.
God, it doesn't take much to appease zoomers these days. What was mediocre to us is incredible to you because shooters have declined in quality so much.
You should realize by now that there is a vocal minority of contrarians here, mostly zoomers, who will hate absolutely anything if they see any "shills" talking positively about it.
So of course, it's not enough that the remaster is bad (it's not, most "boomers" consider it a great remaster that improves the original game) the original game is, of course, overrated and was never good anyway.
>It was universally panned when it came out, son.
Stop regurgitating lies. It had great reviews everywhere and some very successful mods became classics like Action Quake 2.
>played a frickton of q2 back in the day with a crappy PC >used it only in software mode >new engines and all that have OpenGL by default >can't get used to how it looks on OpenGL
Remaster is good mostly, but this new expansion...
They have their chance to give Quake 2 spotlight, with all its strogg story, brown military atmosphere, levels that provide interesting environments to fight bad guys.
And then they forcingy tie quake 1 studf, which is now canon apparently , levels have their ups and down, they are vast yet at the same time boring with countless absolutely flat arenas that flooded by frickton of enemies, there is no any attempt to mix combat by good enemy types and placement combo. Peak of combat design so far was "hey here are the medics from addons and now they just will spam guards at you. It is not fun. Ammo depot or strogg prison levels from og quake 2 is way ahead in that regard.
It was always an absurdly powerful weapon, it just chewed through ammo like crazy. Far as I can tell, the Machinegun was buffed, and the Railgun inexplicably went from 150 damage to 100. Frick that change.
37 year old boomer here. This is honestly the best remaster I've ever played. It took the original Quake 2 from a 7/10 experience to a 9/10 one. I'll tell you how:
>Sped up the slow as shit weapon switching speed >Fixed reticule misalignment of where you bullets would fire >Removed all input lag from both your mouse and the guns shooting >Made the mouse feel fricking amazing while it was utterly repulsive in the OG, even with modern source ports >Added tasteful colours, lighting and shadowing effects in a really subtle and well executed way. Original Q2 looked really drab and boring to look at while this looks so nice >Made enemies faster and more aggressive in general, added new animations and attacks which made previously useless enemies like the berserker into formidable ones#
They really did a great job. Good on them. I never thought Q2 was bad but this remaster makes it an excellent fricking FPS. OG Q2 just never felt right to play, it felt gross, this remaster has really changed all that. GG to them.
The splash damage isn't what bothers me. It's the sheer size of the splash damage that's bigger than a fricking rocket explosion now, combined with the fact that it sends you flying really damn easily.
One person was working on a PSX campaign port, though it didn't finish in time for QA and all. They plan to release it in a remaster-friendly format should it not get official approval. But I can say now that addons are not gonna happen; everything has to be rebaked and reworked a bit due to the underlying engine changes, compared to Q1 and Doom allowing them to just about drop things in with tweaks at most.
That's nice to hear about the PSX port at least. They've done a decent job giving doom and quake support post launch for a bit, so hoping we get something else later.
came out of nowhere, quake hasn't exactly been a topic for years
9 months ago
Anonymous
You realize Quake I had a remaster two years ago and ever since Doom Eternal, it's been openly rumored and theorized that Quake was the next on the reboot list, right?
There's no traditional enemies in Quake 3 Arena, unless they straight up remade the roster from 1/2 for whatever reason. They can't really do the same and that's a hell of a lot more work.
I'm hoping for something like a new proper campaign, maybe something like a UT singleplayer. If not that at least the multiplayer will be populated by something other than slavs for a while and that will be nice.
Crazy what some weapon, movement, ai, level design tweaks can do to improve a game.
Play the original you'll get bored before finishing the first sequence of levels.
it's exceptionally shit you subhuman assbirth.
even at release people hated it and it divided the video game "journalism" landscape with half of them giving that piece of shit 6 and 7/10s and the others being proto- corporate bootlickers and brand prostitute $hills.
Yeah I always liked it even as a kid. I get why you wouldn't be thrilled going from Quake 1 to 2 though considering it got rid of the best part of 1 (the atmospehere)
>it got rid of the best part of 1
These guys?
I'm playing both remasters at the same time and while I like the fluidity of the original quake, I also think that it's an extremely overrated game.
Those guys aren't even the most annoying enemies in the game. I went through all the expansions and stuff a few months back and holy hell I fricking hate fiends on the higher difficulties
I didn't lie to you, stop being a homosexual
>proto military shooter
>satisfying as frick weapons
>did environmental story telling a year before HL
>amazing environment (hurr durr it's repetitive: i've never seen such immersive level design, it truly feels like you are in some Harkonen hell hole planet that's completely industrialized)
i never realized that the hate for this game comes from obsessed boomers.
I still play this on my psx from time to time. The music and ambiance are great.
Psx is a different game
A bit. Still tries to be a port of PC but with alterations on top. With a playstation mouse it's pretty alright. N64 is the totally different game.
ugh
no
Quake 2 does not look right with scanlines
I wish they had a low resolution mode like the Q1 remaster instead of tying it strictly to CRT Emulation. I wanted the more "authentic" 64 look but it's kinda rough. Wonder if there's a console command to remove the scanlines
>Shillmanlives
God I hate the way that guy talks so much. The little "manly" quips and jokes he writes just don't land.
i can proudly say he got so assblasted by one of my comments he blocked me on every platform and then make a snarky remark in a followup video calling me a pedantic little frick
wrong, now sit the frick down you absolute clown
couldnt give a flying frick less if im wrong i could name 5000 niche things you dont know about...i remember strangelove being a traversal mod thats it
and i dont really care because i was a quake 2 threewave clan leader, you know, i was doing what actual chads were doing at the time? not playing frickin autistic brazilian surf maps
thats why you like shit like that, because youre brown right? 🙂 its ok
that's a lotta words for "lalala i'm right ur wrong lalalalala"
get fricked you pretentious projecting homosexual, i'm whiter than sour cream
he's ignorant and arrogant as frick and god forbid you correct and/or prove him wrong in public because he'll throw a melty and block/ban/delete everything you said
Lmao what a homosexual, I think he's the first Aussie that has thin-skin, that's funny.
What did you write in the comment?
>i can proudly say he got so assblasted by one of my comments
wow, here is your medal moron.
hey shillman, hope you get skin cancer you absolute gingerBlack person noodle homosexual
I know ggman gets a lot of hate, but what for, actually just asking, I haven't watched him in a while, he is obnoxious, but I mean did he get caught grooming or something?
Basic b***h with basic b***h safe opinions.
He's just unlikeable and seems like such a try hard to me. I hate that internet speak he incorporates into his scipts. Why does he do it? Nobody is gonna laugh because you reused some old meme. You sound like an idiot. Also, my taste is different from his but that's neither here not there.
I remember years ago he tried to copy Pewdie Pie and was trying to get the, "Sunny Jim Army" started and it was super cringe.
I just hate the autistic conversations he has with clips from cutscenes or movies. It's something shitty movie service commercials like to do, a grown man not trapped in a soulless marketing job shouldn't think this is a good idea.
Everyone knows playing soundboard clips of Arnold saying "Get to da choppa!" for the thousandth time is the height of comedy.
If I see one of this thumbnails I already know exactly what his opinion on the game it going to be, I already know what he liked and didn't like about it, and I even already know when he's going to go shieeet and sonny jim.
He's an unironic paid shill. Pretty much he took EA money and """forgot"""" to disclose it. I forget what video it was for. On top of that, he's shit at the games he plays and does precisely zero research.
Any instances of him be shit at games, I wanna see that.
being*
He's just a moron, if you can't discern that from his awful videos then you probably are as well.
>Well look here sonny Jim, we ain't here to frick spiders mate
G'DAY BLOODY VEGEMITE WANKER CRIKEY SHEILA INNIT
the meme thumbnail is redflag' enough
I like his comment about texture filtering which is ironic considering it was the ideal back in the day, but it just looks like shit in retrospect.
I think it really depends on what they tried to do with those textures. N64 games often look terrible without it because many areas were designed with the blur in mind.
That's true.
Back in the day you had a CRT monitor, not a lcd one. Texture filtering and colored lighting was a small revolution.
Exceptional multiplayer, yes.
No we didn't. You just watched some fat homosexual's video about it and got fooled them.
>Waa who gives a frick about the Strogg? They are so bland!
I do and i wish they made a new sequel with them in it.
i tried to play this several times in my life and have never made it further than nondescript corridors in the first level. its just. ever so slightly too shit. not awful just without nostalgia for it i have zero affinity for it
i think it would be more fun if some enemies would be less damage spongy so i can just rush through them quicker, at times i felt as i was stuck in corners trying to fight off several enemies at once and not advancing at all
One of the things that makes it good as that most of the attacks are telegraphed and avoidable so you actually have to pay attention, if the enemies died too quickly this wouldn't work.
It's very not as good as Quake 1, that's all
PS5 or Xbox Series X?
>pls no PC
Yeah? It’s not as good as Doom or Quake 1 though so people instantly jump to hyperboles claiming it’s shit.
Quake 1 is overrated. The singleplayer is literally a series of nothing. Quake 2 has the story, it's immersive, fun, rewarding.
If you value story over gameplay I could see you enjoying 2 over 1. And you’d be a total fricking subhuman too.
>TRESPASSER
>*slam dunks you from 100 feet away*
>*gets thrown into lava*
wow nice "rebalancing", homosexuals
sounds like they made the game way better
Can you edit this pic bit with the trespasser guy?
While i agree that what they did with them was stupid, but they needed to something with them.
Why? They are effectively Pinkies from Doom and nobody complains about those being too weak. Berserkers were never utilized well due to cramped level design and enemy count limits, neither of which were an issue in this new engine but they buffed them anyway.
>enemy count limits
>That one mission in the new expac that constantly chucks serious sam level hordes of enemies at you
>fighting a boss and suddenly a door opens releasing like 15 of those mutant lizard frickers
Yeah, the new expac which was made for this remaster running on a completely different engine 20 years after the fact. That expac?
Yeah that's the one
No they didn’t, they were fine as is. Their entire purpose is that by themselves they weren’t too dangerous but in a group of multiple types of enemies they could be very dangerous.
they turned them into literal cancer by giving them an attack that they were never meant to have based on level design where they were put in
literally the stupidest mother fricking thing they could have done that literally breaks gameplay 90% of your encounters with them
all they should have done is give them too the ability to jump down from higher platforms and give them some kind of longer range lunge melee attack making it more dangerous for the player to get close to them
thats all they had to mother fricking do
but the inbred imbecile moronic c**t in charge of game design for the remake went for the
>9000 meters leap aoe attack with knockback
instead
whoever fricking decided to put that into the game deserves to be fricking fired on the spot and never work on a fricking videogame ever again
>just make them into Fiends
Those already exist in Q2. Berserkers are actually dangerous now and that's a good thing.
Why leaping fiend animation from quake 1 is alright, but when this thing jumps at you in Quake 2 it looks awkward?
had the happen to me on the Q64 story. but since I'm not a moron I just rocket jumped out.
Some parts he actually jumped over gaps and right at me
While I don't disagree with the new mechanic they've got to rebalance it.
They leech onto you from across an entire arena and it's bullshit! The radius of the attack is just too big!
>waaah the games too hard now
Skill issue
skill issue
>absolutely harmless enemy has now fangs
its a feature that was bugged in retail but in game. Love seeing the seethe it causes
The pump action double barrel is one of the best weapons in fps history.
Not really but it's a nice contrast to the awful early weapons.
nah it is, easily top 3 of all shotguns ever made
It really isnt. Only the first 15 minutes or so until enemies that need 4 full blasts in the face become standard
I can take it or leave it. The weapons just dont feel that fun to shoot, mostly because of all the bullet sponge enemies.
The new levels that got added are a blast tho. Youtubers should suck a fat wiener because the new levels feel more boomer then the original
not really, it's underpowered
>Linear
>Simple
>pretty speedy
>Basically no hitscanners that can hit you no matter what you're doing
It's like what you imagine when you hear about a boomer shooter for the first time. I don't absolutely love it but I find it really difficult to hate it. Completely different gameplay vibe from Quake 1 which is just like, eldritch 3D doom
Will i like this if i thought 1 had some of the biggest dogshit campaign i have ever played.
Exceptionally dog shit, just like your opinion.
To the homosexual complaining about "256 colours" , frick you, the texture filter looks shitty as frick
soulless VS soul
Quake 2 64 is shit btw
I like the way there is a obvious 1 to 1 scaling of the powerful weapons you get with the enemies in the game. So every now and again they can throw a horde of episode 1 enemies at you in your fully decked out arsenal and shred through them in ways that would have been impossible before. Not a new concept I know but Q2 does it very well.
>getting like 30 of the basic footsoldiers with your 300 round chaingun and rocket launcher
No one said quake 2 was bad, just that it was the worst Quake game. Yes even 4 is better, yes in both singleplayer and multiplayer. sliding is really cool
>just that it was the worst Quake game
>Quake 1 aka Luigi's haunted mansion
>Quake 3 try hard central
>Quake 4 modern shooter wannabe
>Quake 3 try hard central
git gud
Childhood is thinking Quake 1 is the best.
Adulthood is accepting it's Quake 2.
Grew up with the games and was salty AF when my dad downloaded the Q2 beta only to find it was an unrelated sci-fi shooter. Also, Unreal Tournament was a better game than Q3 Arena until Team Arena came out.
Q4 was and always will be shit, it's barely different enough to Doom 3 beyond the Strogg aesthetic.
STROYENT IS PEOPLE!
Dungeon Keeper clone based on Quake 2 universe. Yes or no?
>you're 5 years older than me therefore you're a boomer!
There's a reason people dropped this game as soon as Half-Life/Unreal came out
they didn't. quake 2's online community was far larger than early hl + unreal combined
lol no it wasn't
i was on the action quake 2 development team, knew gooseman on irc and taught him to draw camoflague, and i have work on quake 2 extremities netpack
you are some child from Ganker who was not alive when quake 2 came out. suck my fat dick. I still have an email from paul steed in my fricking hotmail account and he's been dead longer than you've been alive probably.
you probably just lived in a q2 bubble
how well is AQtion doing btw?
i didnt live in any bubble i know everything about the entire era and what everyone was doing online
i dont know i havent played it in 25 years
UT exists entirely because of how popular unreal multiplayer was
hahahah no it doesn't, UT existed entirely because of how unpopular unreal was vs its budget in general
unreal multiplayer was DEAD, there were no servers, something like ~200-400 people playing for a few months after release
once again you weren't there and have zero idea what you're talking about
you can ASK about these things, you don't TELL about them, I was actually fricking there and won an unreal lan tournament lmfao suck my fricking fat dick
jesus christ stop thinking you can create reality by typing, not how it works kiddies
UT exists because of the multiplayer boom. Consider the titans that were born in these years. Team Fortress, CS, Tribes... That besides major titles like Q3 or Medal of honor multiplayer.
yes no shit that's what i said. unreal didn't actually sell well at all, they followed the obvious trend
you are welcome to continue telling me more about the era that i know more about than any other person who comes to Ganker in history though, and i was a greater part of that era than any person who comes to Ganker also
go ahead
bet you can't even tell me what strangelove was without googling it
not that anon btw, just annoyed by your high and mighty homosexualry
strangelove was some kind of proto surfing shit, never played it
>bet you can't even tell me what strangelove was without googling it
UT mutator that let you ride The Redeemer?
>how unpopular unreal was vs its budget in general
It was neck and neck with starcraft, STARCRAFT
forgot pic
has nothing to do with online play popularity, starcraft was played exponentially more in multiplayer and for long hours
unreal sold because pretty graphics, sales do not translate to engagement, these concepts are not difficult
stop trying to argue about shit from before you were born, it says everything about the uselessness of your age group in general
>UT
>exists
this is true
even if you disliked the campaign, you played it for the multiplayer. shit was big
>q4 strogification
>surgical but brutal piece by piece process
>q2 strogification
>the hummie squisher 5000
>the blood smoothie machine
>bone smasher XL
I love those sections. It's like the Strogg don't quite know how to utilize humans somehow so they just keep throwing them in giant blenders and hope for the best.
>Now try Subject 256
>The guy screams and the crusher makes him explode into a puddle of gore
>Hmmm... well it happened 256 times, but let's see if that changes with 257.
they knew exactly what they did, they selected humans which were suitable for stroggification, the others were just turned into pulp and made into stroyent to feed their troops. essentially extermination factories, its like the end solution for humans. strogg where designed to resemble intergalactic nazis, even the assault on stroggos was called operation overlord.
I know what you meant, but in quake 2 was the stroyent plant
There was no stroggification process shown in the q2. Part when marines are dissasmbled is the stroyent plant, where humies are minced into stroyent, food/fuel ooze.
Closest to the strogg assembling scene was the place where you steal Tank Commander's head while he is under repair.
I was playing that and one of the MG boys fricking jumped and went prone and actually surprised me enough to take like a Quarter of my health off. The flyers are also really aggressive now, they shoot at you and close to slash with their wings, they do a lot of damage.
Ey real talk, can we talk about the game. I'm at warehouse and moving at a good clip.
is the original worth playing, does it have a remaster like this
Just play the remaster honestly, don't listen to Ganker b***hing, the remaster works perfectly and comes with all the expansions and the N64 version. Also the music doesn't work for the original without fricking with it.
i should clarify i mean does quake 1 have the same remaster treatement as this and is it worth playing i might get it on steam
Yeah, Quake 1 has a remaster that's as good, it's on steam and game pass, it comes with an extra episode.
the remasters frick up the games completely, especially the quake one
always play the original version of any old game. these games are not quake 1 and quake 2 they are modified by SWEDISH PEOPLE the worlds least skilled game designers
they completely fricked up the difficulty and ai in quake for example
i don't know where you got this idea but no, it was not...unreal multiplayer had a few hundred players, it was not widely played. period. it practically did not exist compared to quake, everyone just kept playing quake.
people have told you shit and it's wrong, sorry
the quake remasters are fine chill out lmao
nonono they BAD cuz uhhh they don't play like my perfected 75hz 320x240 speedtröönner version
Ironwail is your best option to play modern Quake.
how can a single man be so confidently wrong?
It's a skill I assume.
Yes and Yes.
https://www.nexusmods.com/quake2/mods/13
Fix for the railgun nerf right here.
If you take it alone it's great, but coming right off Q1 it's a let down.
it wasn't quake 1 and it wasn't quake 3 either, it's the lame duck in between
Q2 64 campaign > base Q2 campaign
That's not a high standard to beat.
why?
Quake 1 enemies: varied both visually and in terms of abilities and dangers
Quake 2 enemies: um, they're all humans with biomech shift grafted on them, and they all run around pissed off and shoot at you
grunts shoot at you
enforcers shoot at you
zombies shoot at you
ogres shoot at you
death knights shoot at you
scrags shoot at you
vores
shamblers shoot at you
we're left with dogs, fish, knights, spawns and fiends
basically, you're a dumb Black person
>varied both visually and in terms of abilities and dangers
Except that's Quake 2 also. In fact the enemies are way more varied than Quake 1.
Quake II is one of the best shooters of all times. I don't know where you are getting these lies from.
you can stop googling what strangelove was, homosexual
it won't help you save face
Is it true the remake removes the recoil from the machine gun?
yeah, almost didn't notice it
what the frick are they doing?
making it not garbage?
what kind of fricking smg has this much kick to it?
its not hard to control the smg in q2 and is fun
It's kinda silly though, no other weapon has recoil.
it was complete dogshit and number two source of complain after the misaligned crosshair
making the game fun
It's not really removed all the way, it's more it jiggles a little bit all around, but it doesn't try to spray the ceiling. It's kinda how real full auto feels.
Yeah, it just filtered a lot of people on release and they're still screeching decades later. Great game.
quake 2 gets better toward the end
the added sluggishness to things was a portent
>strafe jumping feels pretty similar despite being a new engine
it's just easier for scrubs like me
STROGG BOARD
I have noticed the multiplayer is not as active as the previous quake remaster
Guess most people are just waiting for Q3A remaster
Quake Live is on Steam already.
That's different from Q3A, and also isn't on consoles.
>Playing multiplayer FPS on consoles
>Q3 on consoles
I mean, sure it was a funny odd in Dreamcast but good luck trying to do crossover multiplayer.
>in Dreamcast
and PS2 and 360.
>good luck trying to do crossover multiplayer
just split the player pools by input method.
Q3A got an Xbox 360 port
can you play it on Xbox One and Series X?
Not sure, I only played it briefly. I remember plasma gun being good in it because it suits controller aim for some reason.
I bought the original years ago, and I got the remaster for free, it's pretty nice tbh.
Is it just me or does it feel way easier to slide off of shit and push like those exploding pillar things?
yeah it sometimes feels like the floor is covered in oil or some shit
i'm taking potshots at a parasite from a stack of boxes and suddenly UNGH
I don't think it was like in the original, but those exploding pillar things are a bit easier to move if you crouch.
I get 15FPS on Quake TRX
If you like doom 2, doom 3, quake 4, quake 2, unreal 2, halo 2, blood 2, serious sam 2, half life 2, fear 2, etc then you need to frick off. Kill sequel Black folk.
Are you lonely?
Doom 2, Quake 2, Resident Evil 2, 3 amd 4 , MediEvil 2, Silent Hill 2, 3 and 4, MGS2, 3, 4, PW,etc, Soul Reaver 2 and Defiance.
Kill antisequel Black folk
Rpgcodex doesn't like it
codex trannies hate absolutely everything while actually mass playing everything that comes out. its like a more extreme version of double faced contrarian Gankerners
redeem the quake 2 sirs
The N64 port is kind of shitty. If it wasn't for the low ammo count and improved AI it wouldn't be memorable at all.
didnt really have a problem with the low ammo until like the last 5 levels or so. but those levels go by so fast and then its over.
but yeah, n64 version was pretty meh but at least i can say i finished it.
I've been saying Doom 2016 is a shitty remake of Quake 2
Nah, 2016 is actually fun.
It's not as atmospheric as Quake 1, but I think the remaster especially with the compass, helps wipe away much of my issue with the original game.
In retrospective, the jail stage was fricked up in terms of lore implications.
God, it doesn't take much to appease zoomers these days. What was mediocre to us is incredible to you because shooters have declined in quality so much.
One of the GOATs, always was
It was universally panned when it came out, son.
you probably weren't even alive back then, people loved the frick out of it
You should realize by now that there is a vocal minority of contrarians here, mostly zoomers, who will hate absolutely anything if they see any "shills" talking positively about it.
So of course, it's not enough that the remaster is bad (it's not, most "boomers" consider it a great remaster that improves the original game) the original game is, of course, overrated and was never good anyway.
>It was universally panned when it came out, son.
Stop regurgitating lies. It had great reviews everywhere and some very successful mods became classics like Action Quake 2.
>played a frickton of q2 back in the day with a crappy PC
>used it only in software mode
>new engines and all that have OpenGL by default
>can't get used to how it looks on OpenGL
Remaster is good mostly, but this new expansion...
They have their chance to give Quake 2 spotlight, with all its strogg story, brown military atmosphere, levels that provide interesting environments to fight bad guys.
And then they forcingy tie quake 1 studf, which is now canon apparently , levels have their ups and down, they are vast yet at the same time boring with countless absolutely flat arenas that flooded by frickton of enemies, there is no any attempt to mix combat by good enemy types and placement combo. Peak of combat design so far was "hey here are the medics from addons and now they just will spam guards at you. It is not fun. Ammo depot or strogg prison levels from og quake 2 is way ahead in that regard.
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sorry I am esl
>brown atmosphere
But it's orange.
It's more lemon-lime really
Heh
I love the elaborate death animations that have enemies have, the grunt blindly magdumping while decapitated never not be kino
When I was young, my PC was too shitty to have damaged enemies, it blew my mind the first time seeing that
Was chaingun is also buffed? Didn't it have longer windup? Don't remember it shoot just by singular click.
It was always an absurdly powerful weapon, it just chewed through ammo like crazy. Far as I can tell, the Machinegun was buffed, and the Railgun inexplicably went from 150 damage to 100. Frick that change.
37 year old boomer here. This is honestly the best remaster I've ever played. It took the original Quake 2 from a 7/10 experience to a 9/10 one. I'll tell you how:
>Sped up the slow as shit weapon switching speed
>Fixed reticule misalignment of where you bullets would fire
>Removed all input lag from both your mouse and the guns shooting
>Made the mouse feel fricking amazing while it was utterly repulsive in the OG, even with modern source ports
>Added tasteful colours, lighting and shadowing effects in a really subtle and well executed way. Original Q2 looked really drab and boring to look at while this looks so nice
>Made enemies faster and more aggressive in general, added new animations and attacks which made previously useless enemies like the berserker into formidable ones#
They really did a great job. Good on them. I never thought Q2 was bad but this remaster makes it an excellent fricking FPS. OG Q2 just never felt right to play, it felt gross, this remaster has really changed all that. GG to them.
am I a bad person
Does the coop change anything like enemy numbers?
I don't mind the berserker jumping, but that splash damage needs to fricking go.
I'd be more annoyed by it if the game wasn't already easy as hell even on nightmare.
just jump
The splash damage isn't what bothers me. It's the sheer size of the splash damage that's bigger than a fricking rocket explosion now, combined with the fact that it sends you flying really damn easily.
I know we can't get traditional addons due to dll frickery, but I hope we get horde mode and a couple of fan campaigns ported over at least.
One person was working on a PSX campaign port, though it didn't finish in time for QA and all. They plan to release it in a remaster-friendly format should it not get official approval. But I can say now that addons are not gonna happen; everything has to be rebaked and reworked a bit due to the underlying engine changes, compared to Q1 and Doom allowing them to just about drop things in with tweaks at most.
That's nice to hear about the PSX port at least. They've done a decent job giving doom and quake support post launch for a bit, so hoping we get something else later.
Yeah frick boomers for hating Quake 2.
nobody hates q2
why is Ganker talking about quake2 all of a sudden?
A remaster released.
wtf, that's random. haven't played that in 20 years, will check it out.
what's.. random about it?
came out of nowhere, quake hasn't exactly been a topic for years
You realize Quake I had a remaster two years ago and ever since Doom Eternal, it's been openly rumored and theorized that Quake was the next on the reboot list, right?
I do
The quake community is laughing at you, Q2 gays.
stop posting this every thread, alf
also what community, there's like, twelve mappers and that's it
>The quake community
>can't alt tab by default
That's the real quake engine experience.
What are the chances that the quake 3 remaster adds a campaign based on the multiplayer maps like quake 1 remastered got?
There's no traditional enemies in Quake 3 Arena, unless they straight up remade the roster from 1/2 for whatever reason. They can't really do the same and that's a hell of a lot more work.
I'm hoping for something like a new proper campaign, maybe something like a UT singleplayer. If not that at least the multiplayer will be populated by something other than slavs for a while and that will be nice.
captcha:kGAYS
I'd be cool with a bit tournament campaign too. Just something to do when offline.
There is an oldDoom mod that does that. Hunter's moon or something like that.
Quake II is peak 90s, literally everyone played it. Based game.
P.S. I did play Q1 but it was not as powerful.
Q1>Q2
Your opinion is WRONG. I will not elaborate further.
Yes, I don't know if people liked it that much at release but it has aged like a fine wine.
Crazy what some weapon, movement, ai, level design tweaks can do to improve a game.
Play the original you'll get bored before finishing the first sequence of levels.
I did play it like a year back and I still loved it.
Its fine. Mostly just makes me want to play Doom 2016 instead.
it's exceptionally shit you subhuman assbirth.
even at release people hated it and it divided the video game "journalism" landscape with half of them giving that piece of shit 6 and 7/10s and the others being proto- corporate bootlickers and brand prostitute $hills.
a 7 isn't even bad, you're just an american b***h
Cope boomer chud, ywnbaw.
>This is what zoomies unironically believe
Everybody loved Quake II back in the day, if you had Windows 98 installed you had Q2 too.
Turning your foes into gibs was fricking fun in Quake 2.
I don't give a flying frick about Quake. I just hope that Ion Fury Aftershock comes out next month.
I'm confident they will give a release date at Realms Deep.
Yeah I always liked it even as a kid. I get why you wouldn't be thrilled going from Quake 1 to 2 though considering it got rid of the best part of 1 (the atmospehere)
I grew up on Quake 2 and it sucks ass. It's soooo boring (once you ignore the music).
Also this
Even the music gets boring after listening to the same 10 tracks. At least with Quake 1 its ambient.
>it got rid of the best part of 1
These guys?
I'm playing both remasters at the same time and while I like the fluidity of the original quake, I also think that it's an extremely overrated game.
Those guys aren't even the most annoying enemies in the game. I went through all the expansions and stuff a few months back and holy hell I fricking hate fiends on the higher difficulties
Kill Q2 Black folk