ok so what the fuck are the depths? hyrule from 10.000 years ago? whats with all the weird hominid statues? and the hylian knights spirits all over the place?
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ok so what the fuck are the depths? hyrule from 10.000 years ago? whats with all the weird hominid statues? and the hylian knights spirits all over the place?
>MATPAT WE NEED YOU
they thought how could they do a sequel with the least effort possible so they copied the whole overworld and expanded it vertically. It's underground. That's the lore.
why the fuck are there modern objects like cars and rockets scattered around this pre industrial world? Why isn't everyone losing their fucking mind when they see Link making fucking killer robots while everyone else fights with sticks? Why didn't anyone know about this tech in BOTW?
Because in BotW they unearthed a bunch of ancient killer robots and giant mech creatures for the chosen heroes to pilot. It's common tech in the setting.
yes but those mechs weren't created on the fly out of dirt and thin air by a little twink mute. Also why are these ancient artifacts just lying around, why didn't the big houses/kingdoms/civilizations send someone to pick them up for their own security?
Because Zelda is babies first fantasy setting and you're not supposed to think too hard about any of it. The devs put as much thought into the lore as your average LN isekai writer does.
Really makes you think, what are really the strengths of Zelda titles?
fun (a foreign concept to you)
>a foreign concept to you
Okay, so I suppose you know what fun is. Then can you be a darling and define fun for me. I'll wait for your words of wisdom.
Pissing off console warriors like you
You'd LOVE Zelda on Playstation
It would give you a leg up on game quality arguments because of review scores
why do you assume that all the people are the same as you?
There's no way a genuine question would be asked concerning Zelda's strengths as a game franchise
It's pure console war bullshit
>muh projection
If you have to pull that out, you know I'm right
get out of this thread you passive aggressive, sidestepping pussy of a man.
>sidestepping
No, I'm directly addressing you, you internet pussy.
solid linear progression adventure games with fairly memorable characters consisting of encountering square hole puzzles and the challenge being how far away the square hole peg is located
In BOTW the ancient technology belonged to the Sheikah who still dabble in science, but forsook the ancient advanced technology. The kingdom did find their old tech and tried to use it but Calamity Ganon hacked it and destroyed everything. The advanced technology in TOTK is from the Zonai and nobody knows anything about them.
how very convenient.
The big house/kingdoms/civilizations can't use them.
>Because Zelda is babies first fantasy setting
No, that's fairy tales through Disney animated movies. Stop being salty.
>Link has been gone "for some time" between going in to the Depths with Zelda and reappearing
Has to be quite some time if some kids in Hateno don't recognize Link
And Zonai tech can reverse time on virtually anything. Not a good argument for saying Sheikah > Zonai.
>And Zonai tech can reverse time on virtually anything.
Only movement. And you're even told in game that it's only movement
Yes the Master Sword going back 10000 years was just movement too I bet
>yes but those mechs weren't created on the fly out of dirt and thin air by a little twink mute.
that's just zelda logic, same reason no one bats an eye when you enter their house uninvited and smash all their pottery
>why didn't the big houses/kingdoms/civilizations send someone to pick them up for their own security?
They literally are, see Goron City and Tarrey Town.
It reminds me of the Dark World in LTTP with the way it resembles to overworld map.
>lore discussion
I'm playing the first few hours in Japanese and there's a lot of informational nuggets that aren't present in the translation, especially when you talk to Robbie, Purah, Josha and the Lookout Point NPCs
>Shiekah tech begun to disappear leading Purah to develop the Purah Pad
>The Zonai tech was uncovered in the caverns left by the Sheikah tech
>Zonai Shrines appeared with the Upheaval
>Link has been gone "for some time" between going in to the Depths with Zelda and reappearing
post proof
All but the second point (which I may have missed) are mentioned in the Spanish localization.
The English localization of BotW also had a lot of missing and botched details (such as Ganon being unable to abandon his current form due to all the accumulated hatred from reincarnating so many times) that were intact in every other language.
I gathered the last one when doing to the dye shop and seeing the weirdo's kid go from toddler to preteen. I'm guessing the amount of time Link's been gone is the 6 years from the last game.
wat happen to sheikah tech
It's explained that Sheikah tech is still around but the Zonai tech is a bit more advanced so Link is using that now.
The Purah Pad and the Lookout Towers still use Sheikah technology, but Zonai engineering is miles beyond what Purah could do.
Purah REVERSED AGING with Sheikah tech
How the fuc?
>Zonai tech is a bit more advanced
But this is only proclaimed in the game. Is the Zonai technology really more advanced or even more useful than Sheikah tech? It's massively hindered by their batter consumption to the point of making it useless for anything actually functional and helpful, and these machines deal is sometimes even lesser than literally gluing a rock on a stick.
Yeah guardians didn't need no battery to perform
Zonai seem to be more in touch with nature so their tech is more advanced, but is more for doing simple things and so it doesn't need much power. It's also more magical like the shrines aren't just underground anymore, they're portals to a completely different space.
flubber is pretty strong man.
Plus, it beats having to use a Sheikah slate to lift heavy objects. Having your arm do the work is easier and more intuitive.
Why did you ruin /tlzg/¿
Fuck off saucy
>totk lore
is that genuinely how a 2023 nintendo game looks?
I would clean that place harder than Adolf Hitler
So is King Rauru's light thing supposed to be the true origin of the light force or something?
Origin of the triforce
What is even the point of talking about "the lore" when fucking ayy lmaos are introduced 5 minutes into the game and never mentioned again. Clearly the devs themselves don't give a single fuck.
It's a shame that there's not more ruins and interesting things down there. Its mostly just empty. At the very least we could have gotten a couple of towns of some kind. Disappointment.
I've come across a few interesting things like a kohga boss battle and some huge statue that wanted me to worship it
There is no plot in zelda games. It's always le bad ganon returns and """"""""""""""""""legendary""""""""""""" zelda always gets trapped somehow. Retarded fucking shit, soulless.
>giving a fuck about Zelda "lore" after SS, Hyrule Historia, BoTW and now this.
ToTK is Nintendo's indirect way of telling you to stop caring about this shit, they literally made the founding queen of Hyrule a goat-fucker for christ's sake.
>all games
>huge gap
>kingdom is restored in TotK
>Ganondorf is sealed
>10k later ancient hero seal calamity
>10k later Link fails and it put in shrine
>100 years, Link kills Calamity
>5 years, events of TotK.
Alternatively, you can say no games before 5he Kingdom being founded.
Nintendo doesn't care, so neither should others.
>those fucking WoW 2004 graphics
>in 2023
how can Nintendicksuckers live with themselves?
Your seethe sustains me
>zelda lore
BAD GUY WANTS TO TAKE OVER KINGDOM AND LINK SAVES THE WORLD
that's it. that's the whole lore of every zelda game
it's literally children's game, lore isn't that deep
>BotW supports "everything happened"
>TotK supports "the kingdom was founded by a goal but it contradicts Ganondorfs origins"
End of the timeline or retcon, this is the new timefag meta
>early reports are all saying sales are massively under the estimates
Oh no no no no no no, tendiebros, did we get too cocky?
I'm not that far into the game, but are Koume and Kotake expanded upon or even mentioned?
No
>Japanese version has basically no inconsistencies
>NoA fucked the lore again and just ignores everything
I hate them so much bros.
>no proof
>no foreskin
Switch your language to Japanese and you'll notice all the voiced cutscenes are completely different.
Yeah, they sound worse somehow.
Who cares about lore in a Zelda game?
The Japanese BotW was vastly different too. Honestly the translations added more questionable content than anything else
>American translation sees a young Zora girl fall in love with an older Hylian guy in a strange quest with pedophilic undertones
>Japanese version is about the young Zora looking for a friend
She was older than him.
Link was groomed by Mipha as a child but no one gives a shit.
>She was older than him.
She was still a child in Zora culture.
>Link was groomed by Mipha as a child but no one gives a shit.
Mipha was much older than the Zora child.
Why are you defending pedophilia?
>an adult grooming a child is okay if the child is a boy
Why are you defending pedophilia?
Different life stages in the culture, pedo. Accept it, groomer.
>100 year old fish women molesting 7 year old boys is okay because japan
>Mature fish woman catches feels for mature Hylian
>This is not okay
>Immature fish girl catches feels for middle age Hylian
>This is okay
Lmao?
>mature Hylian
He was 7 when she met and began grooming him
Did you even play the game?
>Trained him but didn't catch feels until 10-15 years later
Did YOU play the game?
That's called grooming retard I should know
So it's the same issue as the child zora grooming?
Both are wrong.
Mipha is a pedophile.
>Why are you defending pedophilia
Oh the irony
>Why are you defending pedophilia?
Because adult-child sex, when done carefully and responsibly, is harmless and can even be beneficial to the child?
The girl was specifically referred to as a child as far as Zora's go.
>culture that sexually matures at age 40 or whatever and lives in to multiple centuries
>Versus a culture that matures at age 18 and lives until 70s
Rmmt.
So it's okay to fuck a 3 year old dog?
If you want to fuck a non civilised creature just because it's mature, that's your fucked up fetish bro
Concession accepted
Okay dogfucker
>Heh I won the argument by admitting I fuck dogs and want to fuck children
>I sure showed that anon
Look at the seethe
I won
Would it have been better to send Link to the past instead of Zelda?
A link to the past???
Where did everyone go?
Skyward sword doomed the series with evil ganon vs hero link will happen forever and ever. Only good timeline is the WW route where Ganon seems to be finally fucking dead and new villians can come about
This argument makes no sense because BoTW and ToTK is another soft reboot to make everything from the start again knowing how nintendo cant make a simple reincarnation lore.
Also, they can always make stories without ganon or the traditional format, like majora.
But for this to happen you would need to have the zelda devs being creative and not just using ganon to get sales.