they are a stupid weapon, especially when it's not real life actors thwaking them around but animators trying to make sense of it with no real life inspirations
case in point: double sided sword
although my main gripe is with the name >isn't a polearm, so why a glaive >glaive is already a tool of war, why the war- prefix
>Worf gets BTFO in 1 second thus proving how much of a worthless pussy he is
Those forehead ridges must be the most perfect masturbation tool for that guy to still be enlisted an on the bridge
This was the biggest issue with Next Gen's Worf that DS9 fixed.
Worf's supposed to be a huge badass that never loses right? So when they introduce a new bad guy, he immediately beats the shit out of Worf.
The issue is we never see Worf be a huge badass on screen, so after a few times this happens, Worf just looks like a big pussy that can't win unless against simulated fights in the holodeck.
>Best Star Trek episode in the entire franchise is within the first fricking 2 seasons with the Enterprise and that Romulan cruiser tracking each other like a sub movie
How they can put out kino like that and have 'le wacky gangster planet' the next week is fricking baffling. Star Trek is just a spastic franchise
romulans were not a gene roddenberry invention. in fact, much of the franchise's greatest hits were invented by someone else because gene couldn't wrap his mind around the concept that "conflict = fun."
tabletop rpg company fasa lost it's license with star trek because they kept proposing products that emphasized combat and gene constantly vetoed them. furthermore, when fasa first got the license, they asked the star trek people for info on the franchise to help flesh out the product line and the star trek people just shrugged and said, "i dunno; we made it up as we went along. you invent something." so they did.
granted, the man towards the end of his life was on so many painkillers that he couldn't think straight. however, execs were so paranoid and afraid that fans wouldn't tune in to watch star trek unless they thought that he had signed off on everything that they kept crediting him with doing everything until it was blatantly obvious that he had lost it.
Well honestly what's the difference between them? They both think they're the superior species of the galaxy. Gene Rodenberry couldn't come up with any significant difference between them except for what they look like
Introduced (relatively) late in the show, only well known for blowing Bajorans the frick out and factional genocide and political infighting is too complex to understand when compared with 'evil vulcans bad'
>bad marks on his record will never be promoted to captain >2 dead wives >son hates him >brainwashed his brother >failed ambassadorship duties >dominion war vet >house of martok shit, alexander shit, honor duty
WE WERE ROBBED OF A CAPTAIN WORF SHOW EVEN A BREVIT CAPTAIN WORF SHOW.
also klingon honor guard as another anon said
i should play that again at some point, it was fairly jank but also had a certain charm that all unreal engine games had back then
I love the irony of star trek, a show that pushed the boundaries and helped usher in our modern woke cultural movement became totally unacceptable by that same movement shortly after it rose to power and was pretty much canceled in it's original form.
Hoisted by it's own petard you could say.
That's just the standard purity spiral of any movement like that. Because the goal is power, influence and domination in the guise of striving for a permanent solution, goalposts must move when that solution is actually reached. Nothing will ever be enough because when the job is done all their influence disappears.
That's also why some feminists like Sarkeesian never actually cared if they managed to change anything or not. All that ever mattered to her is the ability to exert her power and to make people do what she wants, at the moment. What it leads to is irrelevant.
Star Trek was just the Hassan Piker of its day, it didn't really believe the crap it was spouting in each episode but it was pandering to hipsters with no life experience for cash.
star trek was canceled bc the ratings system at the time couldn't be parsed like it could today.
it wasn't overall popular but it was intensely popular with males 18-44 which is what advertisers usually salivate at.
there were mitigating factors depending upon who you talk to. sci-fi shows are more expensive than other shows of similar types and execs love to save money. also, gene was not known to be an easy guy to work with. less easy to work with = more easy to cancel the show and replace it iwth someone who knows the drill and gets in line.
in the end, it did as well as it could for it's time. had they known more readily that it was popular with the young guys, it would've lasted another 1-2 seasons b4 the # of episodes reached the point where execs would've pulled the plug anyway.
Bat'leths were obviously designed by someone with no concept of weaponry. Even if Klingons are way stronger that humans and could swing giant metal weapons around we'd struggle with they still wouldn't have made one that stupidly shaped.
That's fine if you apply the concepts of reasonable weaponry on weapons made for different types of aliens. The sangheili in Halo have different types of firearms because they have double-thumbed palms. It is still just a magnetic plasma accelerator like any sci-fi blaster, but its form factor is more suited for a specific humanoid alien as opposed to humans.
I know it's in the service of showing off a sense of novelty for alien creatures but yeah sometimes it gets a bit silly when extremely humanoid aliens have incredibly un-ergonomic clothes or tools etc when their biomechanics would be basically the same as ours.
Star Trek Online has had them for over 12 years, they were in at release. They even added a bunch of shitty variants, on top of letting you get a replica Sword of Kahless.
They're not even particularly bad weapons even if melee naturally loses out to ranged
There's PvP in STO but you'd be an idiot to do it. The only real limitation on melee is availability of the weapons when you're levelling, at max level it's pretty much an issue of finding a model you like and upgrading it how you want it.
gene hated conflict and was always dragged, kicking and screaming, to put in more conflict. that's why the choreography always sucked bc no one invested in it.
also, fights are expensive to shoot and produce and 1960s tv was prudish. "the wild wild west" was a show that famously pushed the boundaries of violence (even having to defend itself in front of the us congress as a result) and it is outright prudish compared to today's tv.
I love how they never really use it in meaningful combat in the show. It's always against one another or for ceremonial reasons. Whenever they have to fight real opponents they use regular knives or guns.
Unless I'm completely misremembering the whole show.
The DS9 season 4 opener has Klingons board the station and at least one guy in every squad that beams has a bat'leth. Bashir even informs his medics that they need to expect a lot of broken bones and lacerations from people being chopped up and smacked about in brawls.
I feel like that was half the point, what else would a Klingon use other than a heavy, unwieldy and thoroughly impractical chunk of metal that breaks both your arms when you try to use it? You're not a proper Klingon if you haven't broken at least one bone today.
Vulcans were originally supposed to be israeli, spocks hand sign is a israeli blessing.
“It’s the shape of the letter Shin in Hebrew, which is the first letter in the word Shaddai, a word for God, and shalom, the word for peace. It came back to me years later when we made a “Star Trek” episode “Amok Time” when Spock returns to his home planet for the first time and we see him interact with Vulcans.”
>cardassians = english
You do realize the cardassians were the germans right? The bajorans were the israelites (in religious shit not money shit that's the ferengi.) but the cardassian occupation of bajor was all about the nazis pushing the french and israelites around. They've written about how Dukat was Hitler all over the place.
It's in Morrowind you dumb homosexual who doesn't play video games. Unless you are just a homosexual Trekkie who REQUIRES it to be THE EXACT homosexual WEAPON BECAUSE MUH WEAPONFU
I try to imagine in my head someone wielding this but nothing that's stilted and weird comes to mind.
Did the guy that designed this have no idea of melee combat?
They just put less moronic alternatives
cos it's dumb?
Warcraft's warglaives are pretty similar
they are a stupid weapon, especially when it's not real life actors thwaking them around but animators trying to make sense of it with no real life inspirations
case in point: double sided sword
although my main gripe is with the name
>isn't a polearm, so why a glaive
>glaive is already a tool of war, why the war- prefix
Mek'leth are superior
I always found it funny that the prop was usually so tiny so when Michael Dorn as Worf, 6'3'', was using one it looked like he was using a toothpick.
>Is Literally not in ANY Vidya Game
Guild Wars 2
bat'leths are super fricking gay and uncool, just like ridgeheads
Because that shit is moronic you cant maneuver shit with that.
How the frick do you even use that
Very carefully
>it's a Worf episode
>Worf gets BTFO in 1 second thus proving how much of a worthless pussy he is
Those forehead ridges must be the most perfect masturbation tool for that guy to still be enlisted an on the bridge
This was the biggest issue with Next Gen's Worf that DS9 fixed.
Worf's supposed to be a huge badass that never loses right? So when they introduce a new bad guy, he immediately beats the shit out of Worf.
The issue is we never see Worf be a huge badass on screen, so after a few times this happens, Worf just looks like a big pussy that can't win unless against simulated fights in the holodeck.
Michael Dorn had it in his DS9 contract that Worf was never going to be the b***h of the show again
I'm glad for it, Worf being a wimp that never won anything fricking sucked.
DS9>TNG honestly.
>DS9>TNG honestly.
Fricking this. DS9 rules. It took Worf and Obrien and put them in a better show.
>ragghh
>gets thrown like a full garbage bag
>pew pew
>t-they u-uh, adapted
>raghhh
>gets thrown like a full garbage bag
>osha doesn't exist in the future
pretty sure Osha was wiped out during the gene wars.
Those blue barrels have NO HONOR.
>it's a Deanna's mum episode
>it's a Worf episode
>in DS9
good stuff
Worth every gold pressed bar.
Doesn't some Mortal Kombat character have one of these?
Its a cool fantasy design, but maqn does it suck in reality.
No grip on it that lets you transfer force properly.
And it "breaks" your wrists
Romulans ended up being more honorable than the Klingons. Really makes you think.
Of course, the modern Star Trek had to portray the Federation as le evil white men. The Romulans were just misunderstood minorities all along.
Because Bat'leths are stupid impractical weapons intended for ceremonial slap fights and not "real" combat
It is in Klingon Honour Guard.
Renekton from League of Legends
Renektons is reversed
That way it makes a bit more sense but still not working for human usage
Only the most popular videogame in the world uses it
Pokemon has batlehs?
>Best Star Trek episode in the entire franchise is within the first fricking 2 seasons with the Enterprise and that Romulan cruiser tracking each other like a sub movie
How they can put out kino like that and have 'le wacky gangster planet' the next week is fricking baffling. Star Trek is just a spastic franchise
>casts his wife as some overbearing c**t that everyone has to tiptoe around
romulans were not a gene roddenberry invention. in fact, much of the franchise's greatest hits were invented by someone else because gene couldn't wrap his mind around the concept that "conflict = fun."
tabletop rpg company fasa lost it's license with star trek because they kept proposing products that emphasized combat and gene constantly vetoed them. furthermore, when fasa first got the license, they asked the star trek people for info on the franchise to help flesh out the product line and the star trek people just shrugged and said, "i dunno; we made it up as we went along. you invent something." so they did.
granted, the man towards the end of his life was on so many painkillers that he couldn't think straight. however, execs were so paranoid and afraid that fans wouldn't tune in to watch star trek unless they thought that he had signed off on everything that they kept crediting him with doing everything until it was blatantly obvious that he had lost it.
One character in vindictus literally uses the exact weapon
Are you sure about that?
I played the demo of Klingon Honor Guard in the late 90's. That's the most powerful weapon in the entire demo.
Why do normies remember the Romulans as the Star Trek villains but not the superior Cardassians?
Well honestly what's the difference between them? They both think they're the superior species of the galaxy. Gene Rodenberry couldn't come up with any significant difference between them except for what they look like
Basically the Romulans are sneakier but the Cardassians are more ruthless.
Introduced (relatively) late in the show, only well known for blowing Bajorans the frick out and factional genocide and political infighting is too complex to understand when compared with 'evil vulcans bad'
Morrowind
>bad marks on his record will never be promoted to captain
>2 dead wives
>son hates him
>brainwashed his brother
>failed ambassadorship duties
>dominion war vet
>house of martok shit, alexander shit, honor duty
WE WERE ROBBED OF A CAPTAIN WORF SHOW EVEN A BREVIT CAPTAIN WORF SHOW.
elite force 2
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also klingon honor guard as another anon said
i should play that again at some point, it was fairly jank but also had a certain charm that all unreal engine games had back then
I love the irony of star trek, a show that pushed the boundaries and helped usher in our modern woke cultural movement became totally unacceptable by that same movement shortly after it rose to power and was pretty much canceled in it's original form.
Hoisted by it's own petard you could say.
That's just the standard purity spiral of any movement like that. Because the goal is power, influence and domination in the guise of striving for a permanent solution, goalposts must move when that solution is actually reached. Nothing will ever be enough because when the job is done all their influence disappears.
That's also why some feminists like Sarkeesian never actually cared if they managed to change anything or not. All that ever mattered to her is the ability to exert her power and to make people do what she wants, at the moment. What it leads to is irrelevant.
Star Trek was just the Hassan Piker of its day, it didn't really believe the crap it was spouting in each episode but it was pandering to hipsters with no life experience for cash.
star trek was canceled bc the ratings system at the time couldn't be parsed like it could today.
it wasn't overall popular but it was intensely popular with males 18-44 which is what advertisers usually salivate at.
there were mitigating factors depending upon who you talk to. sci-fi shows are more expensive than other shows of similar types and execs love to save money. also, gene was not known to be an easy guy to work with. less easy to work with = more easy to cancel the show and replace it iwth someone who knows the drill and gets in line.
in the end, it did as well as it could for it's time. had they known more readily that it was popular with the young guys, it would've lasted another 1-2 seasons b4 the # of episodes reached the point where execs would've pulled the plug anyway.
Bat'leths were obviously designed by someone with no concept of weaponry. Even if Klingons are way stronger that humans and could swing giant metal weapons around we'd struggle with they still wouldn't have made one that stupidly shaped.
If you design alien weapons using correct "concepts of weaponry" you'll just end up with weapons that look like they were made by humans.
That's fine if you apply the concepts of reasonable weaponry on weapons made for different types of aliens. The sangheili in Halo have different types of firearms because they have double-thumbed palms. It is still just a magnetic plasma accelerator like any sci-fi blaster, but its form factor is more suited for a specific humanoid alien as opposed to humans.
I know it's in the service of showing off a sense of novelty for alien creatures but yeah sometimes it gets a bit silly when extremely humanoid aliens have incredibly un-ergonomic clothes or tools etc when their biomechanics would be basically the same as ours.
Star Trek Online has had them for over 12 years, they were in at release. They even added a bunch of shitty variants, on top of letting you get a replica Sword of Kahless.
They're not even particularly bad weapons even if melee naturally loses out to ranged
even in pve?
There's PvP in STO but you'd be an idiot to do it. The only real limitation on melee is availability of the weapons when you're levelling, at max level it's pretty much an issue of finding a model you like and upgrading it how you want it.
That looks like he's about to use that like a sickle to gather the wheat around him.
because trek's fight choreography is shit
its funny and campy and i love the dumb double hammer fist but objectively speaking its shit
gene hated conflict and was always dragged, kicking and screaming, to put in more conflict. that's why the choreography always sucked bc no one invested in it.
also, fights are expensive to shoot and produce and 1960s tv was prudish. "the wild wild west" was a show that famously pushed the boundaries of violence (even having to defend itself in front of the us congress as a result) and it is outright prudish compared to today's tv.
because it looks like garbage while also making no sense
your life doesn't make sense either and you are here
I love how they never really use it in meaningful combat in the show. It's always against one another or for ceremonial reasons. Whenever they have to fight real opponents they use regular knives or guns.
Unless I'm completely misremembering the whole show.
The DS9 season 4 opener has Klingons board the station and at least one guy in every squad that beams has a bat'leth. Bashir even informs his medics that they need to expect a lot of broken bones and lacerations from people being chopped up and smacked about in brawls.
he was telling a story to his friends in a restaurant about what happened the night before and was immediately hired
>Its a Dukat episode
superb acting. could he be a voice actor or would he be typecasted day 1?
>Dukat's character was driven entirely by Marc Alaimo's refusal to play him as a generic villain
Wasn't that Damar, the actor only took the role on the basis that it would be expanded.
Always thought he looked like Bob Saget or that shitface from 6th day, and I didn't like it.
Wait are these chuuni weapons actually real?
I feel like that was half the point, what else would a Klingon use other than a heavy, unwieldy and thoroughly impractical chunk of metal that breaks both your arms when you try to use it? You're not a proper Klingon if you haven't broken at least one bone today.
It's in one of Elite Force games, you duel a Klingon on some kind of pirate bar station using it.
Shadman already debunked the viability of those.
Romulans = Chinese
Klingons = Black people
Ferengi = israelites
cardassians = english
bjoran = irish
All wrong.
Vulcans were originally supposed to be israeli, spocks hand sign is a israeli blessing.
“It’s the shape of the letter Shin in Hebrew, which is the first letter in the word Shaddai, a word for God, and shalom, the word for peace. It came back to me years later when we made a “Star Trek” episode “Amok Time” when Spock returns to his home planet for the first time and we see him interact with Vulcans.”
>cardassians = english
You do realize the cardassians were the germans right? The bajorans were the israelites (in religious shit not money shit that's the ferengi.) but the cardassian occupation of bajor was all about the nazis pushing the french and israelites around. They've written about how Dukat was Hitler all over the place.
>Cardassian Union
>not Soviet era Russian
>>not Soviet era Russian
A thing can be two things.
It's in Morrowind you dumb homosexual who doesn't play video games. Unless you are just a homosexual Trekkie who REQUIRES it to be THE EXACT homosexual WEAPON BECAUSE MUH WEAPONFU
Frick off.
I'm surprised that with the gazillion moronic weapons it has, Warframe lacks some kind of Batl'eth.
I try to imagine in my head someone wielding this but nothing that's stilted and weird comes to mind.
Did the guy that designed this have no idea of melee combat?
The guy who designed it was an expert martial artist
>martial arts
So someone with no idea of melee combat, what I said.
They don't adapt to being stabbed
>its a guaranteed kino episode
ok zoomer
DS9 was a success because it wasn't Paramount's idea in the first place.
>WC3/WoW
>GW2
>LoL
>STO
>Is Literally not in ANY Vidya Game