It's over

It's over

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, even the Doom guy quit. It's over.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      He's not that important.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        What’s important is what he’s about to do.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I know this image is bait and I still took it. Man that burns me…

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        sarkeesian has a greater impact on video games than carmack ever did, and this isn't even a joke.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          You are a retard. Carmack made a game.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Sarkeesian's influence only extends as far as modern western left wing idpol (a cancer on sustainable grassroots profit). Time and moving between culture spheres will phase it out.

          Carmack's impact will always exist whenever and wherever videogames exist. In a thousand years, long after nature has taken care of the feminists, the things that he did will still be a part of the lineage of the work of the time, and people who study videogames will still know his name.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Sarkeesian's influence only extends as far as modern western left wing idpol
            Pretty sure more right wingers know Sarkeesian because they consumed media about how dumb she is/were exposed to that media or people talking about that media because of their social circles

            She wasn't really relevant at all before people started hating her and hasn't been relevant for anything since

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Doom was far more influential that anything Sharkeesian ever did. The doom engine was also released open source by carmack which also helped contribute to the development of the shooter genre in general. No one remembers what that bitch anita did other than grift, she’s practically forgotten. Ask someone if they know what Doom is and they’ll remember. Some people dont even know what the fuck “gamergate” was

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            knowing what annita did isn't the same as being effected by the results. if you subscribe to the idea that modern gaming is as it is because of gamergate, she had a much greater impact

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I dont think it had that big off an impact at all. The main flaws with the industry now are battlepasses and games as a service bullshit and that all started with horse armor dlc, if not earlier. The pozzed bullshit in modern games is part of a much bigger trend in global media that has all sorts of sociopolitical factors. The least of which is anita sucking dick for good reviews.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Gamergate was the vidya industry's first big sex scandal. Thats an accurate description isnt it? I have a friend who must have fried his brain consuming bread tuber bullshit about gamergate, because whenever I say that to him he says "well, acktually its a bit more complicated..." and then proceeds to describe gamergate as vidyas first big sex scandal. Its such a weirdly overdiscussed thing. People make it out to be more than it is.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >open Ganker for the first time in month
          >see this post
          >close Ganker

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The image that spawned an internet crusade.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous
  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >twitter screencap thread
    >Ganker filename

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I saw this article on the edge browser at work. We're literally just MSN now, edgy anime edition.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Do you think that discussing vidya news on Ganker shouldn't be allowed? I don't understand.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          He's probably under some sort of impression that he's "mAiNtAiNiNg ThE cUlTuRe" of an anonymous board of which your identity is not important, but instead the content of your posts.
          That is until the janitors decide to be cock smoking gays and ban you because you're a wrong thinker

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          He's probably under some sort of impression that he's "mAiNtAiNiNg ThE cUlTuRe" of an anonymous board of which your identity is not important, but instead the content of your posts.
          That is until the janitors decide to be cock smoking gays and ban you because you're a wrong thinker

          you're meant to take a screenshot of the actual news articles you lazy poofters

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        choose your fighter

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          the OG

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >wants to make a snarky comment about the state of the board
      >doesn't even know about the random filename function

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        what do you mean?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          lurk moar faggit

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          With GankerX you can enable an option that randomizes your filenames.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Never worked for me when I enabled it, I'll try one more time though

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      serial shitposters hide their filenames so you can't call them out in the archives.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    People had faith in it to begin with?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Believing in it wasn't really high investment and the return was really high for what it would bring.
      Basically one of the big ideas with metaverse was "private" ownership of virtual property.
      Which sounds really fucking stupid, but if it did happen to take off and we were in some nightmare universe, the return on believing in that shit would be pretty nice.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        They were essentially trying to capitalize on what Second Life and VRchat is doing and selling virtual houses and 3D Modeled porn and turning it into a meme token that people would use as currency between different types of media because it brought investors in.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I mean I understood the concept. People spent absurd amounts of money on TF2 hats back in the day. If the concept was extended and people thought that was useful outside of TF2, but the entire idea is fucking retarded and nobody would take it seriously unless we could all go into virtual areas like it's fucking SAO

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, a trillion dollar backed VR facebook could absolutely work. Zuckerberg just fucked it up big time

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Not until 10 trillion is spent to upgrade all internet relay stations and lay fiber optic cables across the world.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >You need 5gb fiberoptic to play an MMO
          Retard

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Welcome to the future, where games are the same shit but heavier

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            People aren't going to buy VR headsets to play Secondlife except for the few thousand freaks on VRchat. If they want mass adoption, they have to ether deliver something new and exciting or lock something necessary behind the use of their otherwise useless piece of shit. The problem with the former is that you're extremely limited by the realities of internet transfer speeds in most of the world.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I don’t think it’s possible to be that interesting until we get Ready Player One stuff with full immersion, body control and feeling. That can actually enslave the minds of people but this kind of tech is probably decades away.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            People really need to watch their firewall when playing a game or watching streams. Makes me laugh when families have 20mb/s download speeds and they think the reason their stream is buffering is because their internet isn't fast enough.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Americans are the primary demographic of this always online high bandwidth using MMO. (They advertised Walmart as a feature for fucks sake).
            >America has the worst average internet connection speeds of all 1st world nations.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >a trillion dollar backed VR facebook could absolutely work
        In Japan, Germany, and even parts of Africa...but not America. Entire metropolises with only two options for internet and lazy telecommunications companies capping bandwidth and data transfers.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It will never work because
        >US Internet infrastructure is garbage and will remain garbage forever because ISPs purposefully gimp services and muscle or competition
        >The coding complexity needed to even make an immersive online VR experience that actually lets you do more than the basic activities any online game with a social hub is far more work than any game developer would ever out in, regardless of the budget you handed them
        >Anyone smart and hard working enough to handle it is programming for far more meaningful shit like NASA

        The experience that would actually make people say "oh yeah, this is worth it" will never exist in our lifetimes, if ever at all.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >US Internet infrastructure is garbage and will remain garbage forever
          Surely at some point they will have to do some major overhaul of everything. They can't continue to live on 1999 infrastructure in 2050.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >he thinks america won't be south brazilica by 2050
            >he thinks the internet won't be a luxury along with clean running water
            >he thinks people will even know how to spell infrastructure, let alone understand the concept

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >south brazilica
              the fuck is south brazilica?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                the garden gnome's greatest design yet: the perfect mix of morons and mexicans that combined create a country with all the squalor, corruption, violence, low quality of life, racial mongrelization, and class disparity of both brazil and south africa

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                south brazil is actually the nice part

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I take offense in your comparison of US and south america, as a south american monkey, I'm proud of our ability to dehumanize, automatize and accelerate the bureaucratic system, and the fact every city in this god forsaken land has multiple flavors of internet providers, including 10k towns, already proves that US infrastructure is obsolete.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >They can't continue to live on 1999 infrastructure in 2050.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              sauce

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                PPPD-481

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                HOLY SHIT IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS ONE FOR SO LONG.
                All I remember about the girl was that she had huge bug eyes

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous
          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Fucking pooland has optic fibres and 5G internet. Meanwhile mutts still acrape by with Broadband datacaps.
            It's over.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            It's happening slowly
            My podunk town in Louisiana just started getting fiber optic a few years ago

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Second life and vr chat were huge
      Obviously everyone who's heard of them knows they can just play them for a better experience
      And I'd imagine a literal boomer ceo can't wrap his head around an mmo and thinks its a big zoom call

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Second life
        Second Life was never huge. It was an obsession with journalists/the proto blue checkmark crowd in that they found the idea of it being a huge thing narratively appealing.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      it was just playstation home, and we all saw what happened with that shit. fucking nothing.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Actually while playstation home was up it was pretty good

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      no one really. Only zuck. Seriously who even fucking liked it?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      some boomers literally never heard of a concept of a mmo before and its being pitched to these execs in companies like wow is the new sliced bread.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The people who said they believed in it only did it to get in on the grift.
      If I worked at Facebook and Mark Z told me about this project, I'd do everything I can to suck up to him and be a part of the project, because it's free and easy money. Imagine getting paid to do nothing.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        IMO a software developers wet dream is to get on a project that has an unlimited budget and timeframe and absolutely zero probability of ever going to production. There's zero stakes: just approve everything without testing, document nothing and write whatever spaghetti you like, it'll never come back to bite you in the ass since the thing will never leave internal tech demo stage.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Plus, even if a given Facebook project is a complete failure, the fact that you worked on ANY big Facebook project will always look good on your resume.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      people? no, unless you consider people those fags who write overexcited posts on social media for whatever new faggy reboot of old IP is announced (I have one, he's super cringe and, funny enough, a humongous metaverse shill for whatever reason, he doesn't even work for meta).
      corporation? you bet your fucking ass they fell for it. I work for a huge company (just saying, multibillion dollars one), and they are exploring how to take advantage of this shit. take advantage as if there actually was any substance to it. honestly I don't think that eventually something like metaverse couldn't become popular, but now it's just a literal meme that normies even struggle to differentiate from a normal videogame. literally the offer to the demand nobody ever fucking had.
      all this to say that this shit is here to stay for a long time. facebook is massively shinking because of instagram, and even the latter feels tiktotk's breath on its neck. so pushing this virtual reality shit is the way zuck came up with to try keeping the meta brand afloat

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Never underestimate just how easy it is to sell dumb tech ideas to clueless boomer investors.

      Literally start a company tomorrow claiming you can "triple the synergy of metaverse with complex fungible token relays based on crypto" and some boomer will be like "Oh fuck, this is it, the trillion dollar idea!"

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >A trillion dollar project by Facebook
      >wtf this will fail 100%
      Literally nobody could imagine how much of a colossal disaster this would be. Nobody. It's comical just how hard they have failed. I believe at least data catching algorithm has to be topnotch.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >People had faith in it to begin with?
      People are incredibly dumb. This site should have thought you this at least.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      No, but they need to pretend. Like any project involving billionaires.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      yeah boomers still had faith in big tech, but not anymore thanks to based zuckerberg fucking it up beyond anyone's wildest dreams

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I never believed from the get go. VR was a hard sell, fuck 3D TVs/monitors outright failed. People put plastic disks in their eyes or take a small chance at going blind via laser surgery just to not wear glasses. It's just something that's never going to be.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Normalfags did.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        No they didn't. I haven't met a single person who thought metaverse was a good idea.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Never underestimate just how easy it is to sell dumb tech ideas to clueless boomer investors.

      Literally start a company tomorrow claiming you can "triple the synergy of metaverse with complex fungible token relays based on crypto" and some boomer will be like "Oh fuck, this is it, the trillion dollar idea!"

      >People had faith in it to begin with?
      People are incredibly dumb. This site should have thought you this at least.

      not boomers, teens too. i am honestly amazed it never picked up.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Corporate execs are beyond retarded and will buy into any "next big thing" if you make a sufficiently pretty presentation about it.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's part of

      Corporate execs are beyond retarded and will buy into any "next big thing" if you make a sufficiently pretty presentation about it.

      but also after shit like smartphones and how companies like Nokia literally died because they refused to buy into the meme or Bitcoin or AI, everyone will more easily buy into anything potentially new.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They had billions of dollars and John Carmack. There was plenty of reason to expect that Facebook would be able to set its bullshit bureaucratic corporate culture aside for a moment and just let the adults in the room actually get shit done. Instead they let sociopathic diversity hires fuck everything up and sidelined all the actual engineering talent in the company.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Apparently there are a lot of retards that did.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      No one really cared, its just the constant shilling and forced overhyping.
      Its like Brie Larson no one likes it but for some reason it keeps getting shoved in our screens.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think it will get that big but it'll definitely have its niche

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >66% of professionals are retarded
      That seems low

      I know that "enthusiasts" (basically pic related) were wowed by the backing of Oculus and Carmack, and investors were fucking salivating at the idea of owning digital real estate in ready player one land, but anyone with any real understanding of either game/software marketing or development should understand that it's been fucking pixie dust from the start.

      I'm all for innovators chipping away at the many many MANY unsolved challenges of VR, but the vision being presented by Meta is just fucking stupid.

      You could have literal magic tech that is weightless and zero latency and you wouldn't see people adopting it for the shit meta wants because people generally can't or don't want to shut off their senses for extended periods of time. Ask a hundred people how they'd rather work and 99 will prefer in a room in their home on a monitor over in a fucking virtual office. Ask a hundred people how they'd rather shop and you'll get the same numbers.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I dunno, I think ditching our physical offices and moving our business onto a platform wholly owned by facebook would be a great idea for us. What could go wrong?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Jucika is perfect in every way.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Zucc watched Ready Player One and decided he wanted to be the villain from that

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Meta collapsing is the first domino of the global economic collapse. Get ready lads.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      what happens then?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >2 more weeks

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >First domino
      No, the first domino was the global workforce being forced to take 2 years off work because of some flu that only kills octogenarians and over or those with other severe health problems, destroying productivity.

      Skyrocketing Inflation, Labour shortages despite engaging in mass layoffs, governments printing money constantly.
      The dominos have already been falling for quite a while now.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty accurate. Who would have thought turning everything off for two years would fuck everything up? Yet another case of our lives being ruined by boomers

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I'm still seething that they did it. Took a fucking lot away from us and expect us to still trust them. The one positive is through forced proximity, I'm now much closer to my family.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            If your local hospitals and general healthcare system collapsed, I think you'd be singing a different tune

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I would have loved a 2 year vacation what the fuck are you talking about

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      So I won't even have a comfy VR world to retreat to during the Great Depression

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        What do you think the truck loads fentanyl coming is for? There is your Government compassion.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      its an interesting thought that since the economy was astroturfed and based on perpetual growth, its suddenly fucked because consumer electronics and tech has reached a point that further improvement is unnecessary and impossible without drastic and invasive changes like VR or brain chips. the economy died because we reached a plateau

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Irrelevant social media site filled with advertisements and data collection the first domino
      Lmaooooooooo

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >one of the biggest companies in the world
        >irrelevant
        get fucked zoomzoom

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The garden gnomes won't let any big corporation from Silicon Valley fail, they're too useful for them.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    For something to be over it would have had to actually started in the first place.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody even knows what the fuck it is still. VR Chat but for corporations?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >VR Chat but for corporations?

      Basically yeah, the whole idea was stupid.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      wfh was supposed to sell this but now corpos are desperately trying to get people in the office

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >corpos are desperately trying to get people in the office
        hell no I'm never going back

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >articles saying how working from home ruined productivity
        >most companies posted improved productivity
        >articles saying it will cost companies millions
        >most companies made money by not renewing their leases and not having an office
        I am so confused

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Everything everyone is making turns to shit. Investors are getting angry about that.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Everything everyone is making turns to shit.
            Boeing airplanes were falling out of the sky before covid started. Things are turning to shit because of the overreliance on temporary contractors because companies don't want to have real employees lower than the C-Suite anymore.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              This,this is why 343 can’t do shit,contractors.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            That has nothing to do with working from home and everything to do with ESG ideology being pushed and stifling creativity.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              At my company all my direct managers are women or black and in a weird way I have all the power because they literally do whatever I suggest because they are obviously diversity middle management. Can you imagine how hard I work knowing that I will maybe (probably not) be promoted because I'm white?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I hate it, anon. Its like that everywhere and I hate it. It doesnt end until we start our own company. Lets open a game studio and make a maximo ghosts to glory clone that sells a million copies. You do the programming and I'll do the fun stuff.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          'most companies' don't engage in esoteric tax accounting like a corporation

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Being a tyrant is no fun without grunts to scream at.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          The only ones forcing the "work from home is bad" meme is management whose jobs are irrelevant with working from home

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Bosses won't believe employees can be more productive left alone than being watched over their shoulders no matter much proof they're given.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          wfh means real estate garden gnomes make less money. it also damages psychopaths who enjoy their job in management because it lets them control people. plenty of reason why there's an astroturfing campaign against wfh despite every study and all of the data saying it's a good thing

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          politicans get their power from taxes and bribes, big urban centers have lots of taxes and ways to bribe, waggies moving out to the country deprieves the politicans of taxes and bribes. politicans and their friendly news media liars gaslight everyone into a false reality to recover this money and power.

          the 'elite', is not a coherent group. its different factions, all with different spheres of influence and pools of wealth. the cityfags who went all in on their favorite urban center got fucked in the ass by waggies retreating to the woods. now they want the waggies back in their wage caggies so all the city-centric businesses and services can get their moneyback.

          also a large portion of current profitability is literally fake. its created from blackrock loans, government covid stimmies, and other assorted richfag gibs.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          If work from home takes off, it basically will mean the complete destruction of the concept of a corporate office, and if you don't have a corporate office, how can you come off as big and important? >:(

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I work for a bank and they're happy with the wfh scheme. It was cheaper giving everyone a laptop to work from their homes than paying rent for office spaces.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            That's how I lost my local branch

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          if everyone works fine from their own home there's a lot of middle management with nothing to do anymore and no reason to keep employed

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          boomers hate work-from-home because your job isn't legitimate unless you're miserable

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >at least my work makes a difference!
            >it's a bullshit job with nothing produced in the end
            Always funny

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      VR chat but you CONSOOM while playing

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      VR Chat but even worse looking and more rules.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The metaverse is SUPPOSED TO BE the word we use to describe the blending of real life and the digital world.
      As you might have noticed, we’re not very deep into that. Everyone owns a smart phone, sure, but we’re not all walking around with AR glasses yet (because they all suck)

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        There needs to be some level of integrating technology into the nervous system for the digital and analog world to blend. People are fast realizing that "VR" doesnt amount to much more than strapping a monitor to your face. Real VR will involve plugging a cpu into your spinal column.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      TL;DR, "metaverse" is a fancy name for just interconnecting VR content all in one big hub, and you can viably spend the majority of your life in it. Real stuff, virtual stuff, etc.

      >everything is connected to each other, all within VR
      >go to theater, opens movie app seamlessly, sit next to friends
      >go to grocery store, buy stuff there, all gets mailed to your IRL house
      >go to VR race track, opens a Meta racing game seamlessly
      >drop by your workplace, seamlessly opens your company's VR desktop/cubicle/whatever, whatever your IRL job has designated as "VR doable", like accounting or meetings
      >go to a local venue, pay real money for a virtual ticket for a "real" concert hosted by real musicians/singers/whatever
      >spend real money on a virtual version of a real car made by a real car manufacturer so you can get to things in your virtual town faster
      >get into virtual car accidents, buy repairs, pay tickets? (Probably not...?)
      >grope someone without consent and be locked away in VR for a length of time, maybe even have to pay a real fine?
      >go to shooting range, opens shooting range app owned by a Meta partner company
      >buy upgrades for your virtual house with real money
      >name-brand furniture costs more
      etc.

      Horizon Worlds and Facebooks "Metaverse" aren't the same thing.

      When you see these headlines about "FACEBOOK SPENT 40 TRILLION DOLLARS ON THE METAVERSE" they haven't spent all that money making Horizon.

      Horizon Worlds is supposed to eventually be the backbone of the Metaverse, though it's got zero reasons to be called that so far, and it seems like such a dead project it probably never will.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        remove the shooting range and replace it with faggy pong and pacman knock offs and youve got it down to a tee

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >and you can viably spend the majority of your life in it
        Have you ever actually used VR? Most people would barely survive half an hour without puking their guts out.
        Even if Metaverse actually got made it'd drop dead as a business the moment someone manages to succesfully sue for ruining their eyesight by spending 14 hours a day in VR.
        A metaverse that you can only use occasionally in your own home in under two hour bursts twice a day at most is worth jack fucking shit.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          see

          Problem is, most of what it wants to do is already done by VR Chat, Rec Room, and maybe FreelandVR if that ever comes out.
          If they want to lean heavily on the "hub for many services, all stitched together seamlessly into a whole new reality" thing, that's certainly new, but unless they release another Quest, one that weighs less, is more comfortable, has a better battery life and is still cheap (haha no), nobody's going to want to spend 8+ hours a day in VR, let alone normalfags that put the headset on one time and get nauseous after five minutes.

          (me)
          I meant "viable" as in it would make most of the other things you do redundant, so you can "live" in this "world".

          Also, I personally have lower back issues that prevent me from playing VR for more than a couple hours. The biggest hurdle for Meta is to come up with a headset that weighs a lot less than the others, has a higher res and FoV to help against eye strain, and has a bigger battery so people aren't tied down by cables as often.
          ...while also being really affordable, somehow.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >go to grocery store, buy stuff there, all gets mailed to your IRL house
        This should be the obvious nail in the coffin for "real world" VR integration
        You go to the VR Walmart, spend your time walking up and down the VR aisles picking up VR boxes and putting them in your VR cart
        Then, when you're done, you have spent 45 minutes shopping and don't have groceries for another few days
        You'd be better served by going to an actual Walmart (more time spent but groceries today) or using the website's 20 year old e-commerce interface (less time spent but groceries later)
        You'd have to be way ahead of the curve to make a VR shopping experience worth anything
        Like, VR Blockbuster presented by Steam, where you can play demos of the games with the publishers resting easy that you can't pirate the game through your headset
        Of course, doing so makes it way too techy for grandma and thus makes it a terrible market proposition

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      secondlife without all the fetish stuff

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Faceberg metaverse was never going to work. But at least it torpedoed the company.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    aka people Facebook paid off. Come on Zucc, we know your tactics.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    This is the most astroturfed shit ever and I don't understand why. Like some power at be wants us to absolutely hate facebook's fucking SECOND LIFE knock off. Who gives a shit.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Mainstream media certainly hyped it up a lot back when it was announced. Bloomberg, WSJ what have you, they were really into this shit.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The problem is that if it became successful all of us will be zucked into a datamining corposcape full of ads

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >all of us will be zucked into a datamining corposcape full of ads
        Literally just don't use it like what the fuck are you retarded? There was never a chance that this was even going to come close to working, and Zuck has outed himself as a retard who just got lucky when he made Facebook.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I do. Facebook fucking killed Oculus.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        At this point I just hope facebook goes under. At least then, people could start hacking the oculus runtime on PC to run without login and to not require 50 million fucking registry entries just to function. They made it so needlessly complicated.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Horizon Worlds and Facebooks "Metaverse" aren't the same thing.

      When you see these headlines about "FACEBOOK SPENT 40 TRILLION DOLLARS ON THE METAVERSE" they haven't spent all that money making Horizon.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        What else comprises metaverse then?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          It's basically a term for a gigantic conglomeration of different advertising companies. Which may or may not be accessible through Horizon.

          Thinks like Fortnite, Smash, Marvel vs DC, crossover episodes are all also "metaverses" in their own way as they are a unification of otherwise separate fictional universes.

          So this 60 billion dollars isn't just going to Horizon, it's also going to developing VR technology, shilling technology, and making deals with other companies.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Smash?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          'Metaverse' used to be a term for social sims like Worlds.com, Second Life, VRChat, Neos etc before Zuckerberg co-opted it for his own tomfoolery.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        theyve made some legitimately cool tech. they just havent done anything with it. if literally any other vr company was releasing promotions like this people would be jerking them off

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          That's because other companies have consumer goodwill

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          What us the purpose of this?
          Remaking Boewulf?
          Making motion tracked CG custscenes look even more soulless?
          Nobody even uses their Webcam for calls at my office. I'm going to wager usage of a 3d scan avatar of yourself would somehow be lower.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >What us the purpose of this?
            >I'm going to wager usage of a 3d scan avatar of yourself would somehow be lower.
            You just have to scan yourself one time and you'll have your avatar for VR forever. I could see it being pretty neat for meetings and things like that. Imagine giving a company-wide presentation in something like VR Chat where everyone looks realistic, but you're all at home instead of having to physically go to the meeting at your job.

            It's definitely going to become the future at some point in time when it's easily accessible, cheap and free of bugs/glitches/etc.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think you are understanding me anon.
              I know like 2 weirdos with their picture on outlook. Nobody is going to tune into VR when they only ever turn on their webcam if some faggy manager makes them.
              The company wide presentation will go as follows.
              The person presenting will have a slide deck open sharing their screen. And a webcam on about 20% of the time. Everyone else will be muted scrolling tik tok or playing games.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Nobody is going to tune into VR when they only ever turn on their webcam if some faggy manager makes them.
                The beauty of this thing is that it's just an avatar. You can look like a complete slob in reality just sitting in your pyjamas with puke all over your face after having a hangover, but your avatar will look pristine. It's basically just like a vtuber avatar.

                >Everyone else will be muted scrolling tik tok or playing games.
                Maybe for larger company-wide meetings, but that was just one example. You could also use this for things like D&D sessions, you could use it as a realtor showing off homes to clients in VR, you could use it as buddies watching a movie together in a VR cinema, online dating, etc. etc.

                It just needs to be cheap, easy to install, easy to use, and then I could see it becoming very mainstream if some gigantic company like Google/Facebook/Apple/whatever utilized it. Eventually it will probably just be an app on your phone and then you put on a $100 super lightweight glasses like Google Glass that connects to your phone and you'll basically have full access to VR chat rooms on the fly ala something like Discord for VR.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                google glass was a complete failure because they tech wasn't and will not be at a level to make it completely hidden for a good while. I think they were still using like 8nm chips then, we're at 4 right now, 3nm theoretically by end of year (though not ready for production in a mass scale yet). We'd need 2, or 1 to make glasses that can properly overlay and house info they'd need. Otherwise you get things that just look like fucking BCGs, like all those audio driver-laden "smart glasses", lmao.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Sure, but it will happen eventually though. It's not a question of it, it's a question of when. VR and AR is only just getting started. It will be fucking mental in 15-20 years from now.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                No, it's not a question of when, the chips will get there, but the question is will glasses get to a point where they're wearable like that? Will people WANT to wear fucking annoying glasses? The answer is a resounding fucking no. The entire lasik and contacts industry exists because they're fucking annoying to put on your face.

                I'd put more money in neuralink and neuralink divergent tech being the way forward (IF all that shit is to progress at all, of course), rather than HMD or external wearables. Just because I think more people would genuinely rather jam something in their fucking skull than wear shit. Also people have been saying VR and AR have "just been getting started" since the god damned 80s, the shit flops every time cause the tech will never be there to match up with the promises and idealized fantasy we've been fed for just as long.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >The answer is a resounding fucking no. The entire lasik and contacts industry exists because they're fucking annoying to put on your face.
                That's because there's not really any upsides to just normal glasses though.

                I'm 99% sure that in 2050 tons of people in first world countries will basically be experiencing AR like this daily - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJg02ivYzSs

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I don't want all that crazy looking shit in my eyes while I cross a street or look for my goddamn Golden Grahams in the store.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Why have an avatar of yourself? Most people look like shit and don't want to be reminded of it. None of that shit would work because many things you listed are better in person or the VR element would add useless horseshit to it.
                >DnD sesh
                Being your character would be supperior than being you by a country mile, and if your already in VR just go full ham in a VR RPG.
                >realtor
                No one with half a brain is buy a house that they do not tour in person.
                >VR cinema
                This would be an abyssmal downgrade to going to the movies in person. Just rent a movie and be in a discord call together at that point.
                >online dating
                VR would add nothing to this. The only people this would work for already are up to that shit and are fucking (literally) in VRchat already.
                The only thing VR will ever be good for is games tha have a motion tracking control scheme.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Being your character would be supperior than being you by a country mile, and if your already in VR just go full ham in a VR RPG.
                Sure, but some people would still prefer to do normal D&D as themselves, rather than playing an actual D&D video game.

                >No one with half a brain is buy a house that they do not tour in person.
                Of course not, but you could get the initial tour online and then save a recording of everything, so you can go over all the houses you have looked at over and over again. Then when you narrow it down to which ones you'd want, you obviously go look in person.

                >This would be an abyssmal downgrade to going to the movies in person.
                No shit. It's an alternative for people who either can't or won't go in person. People who live too far apart, people who are sick, people who may have public anxiety, etc.

                >VR would add nothing to this
                You're trying to tell me that people on something like Tinder wouldn't want to go on a virtual date if the VR was extremely realistic with super accurate body tracking and they could do it instantly by just pressing a button on the app, placing their phone on a table and then putting on a pair of lightweight glasses? Hell, this could even extend to people just want to talk, like distant family members/friends/whatever. It would be like FaceTime 2.0.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >DnD as themselves
                fair enough I'll give you that.
                >virtual house tour
                Doesn't really add much that pictures or video wouldn't already do. A 3d enviroment of a real space to navigate would require specialized equipment and/or software to create. I don't think it would add much over simpler means to be worth it.
                >movies
                I don't know, it seems to specific to be viable. Plus cinemas and video cameras have a bad histroy. But the idea of a fully 3D movie to be watched in VR where you can freely look about might be a niche for that. Or something like Hardcore Henry in VR would be cool.
                >VR dating
                If it was technically advanced to the point you say then sure. Doing that in public would make you look like a loon though.
                I see where you're going with these, but some stuff hinges upon technology that may not come to fruition or even if it does may just not be widely adopted. A lot of people do not like VR or get sick when using it. More realistic than holograms and flying cars for sure, but still firmly in the Fi part of SciFi even with recent deveoplements.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >"y-yeah but": The Post.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >some people
                >initial tour
                >an alternative
                These are not the words you want to hear about the potential consumerbase for a literal trillion dollar project.
                >Would people on Tinder want [headcanon].
                We'll have permanent AI companions as a flat out superior alternative to traditional dating/relationships long LONG before we have perfectly accurate 3D hologram models of people with fucking touch feedback via bodyscan.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                These strike me as solutions in search of a problem nobody will use any of this once the novelty wears off.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >nobody will use any of this once the novelty wears off
                People said the same thing about smartphones in the beginning.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                What world do you live in where there wasnt a technological arms race to miniaturize computers to fit in your pocket?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I live in the world where the vast majority of people said that their Nokia 3310 were enough and that they didn't want to carry about phones that were any more "bulky". I specifically remember tons of people making of the Sony Ericsson P900, saying that smartphones like that would never catch on because there was no real need for them.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >I specifically remember tons of people making of the Sony Ericsson P900, saying that smartphones like that would never catch on because there was no real need for them.
                Ah, so you live in a world where the ericcson and the blackberry werent the hottest sellers at the time that defined the mobile market and created a demand for further miniaturization and streamlining.
                A world divorced from reality, in other words. Or some kind of third world slum where people couldnt access/afford thoee things.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >blackberry werent the hottest sellers at the time
                They weren't at the time when I was talking about. Sony Ericsson P900 is from 2003 and I also mentioned Nokia 3310, which should have been another clue about the timeframe I was talking about. Blackberry was popping into mainstream around 2007-2008.

                >Or some kind of third world slum where people couldnt access/afford thoee things.
                I'm from Denmark.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The P900 was a relatively successful phone for the time.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The P900 was a success, you dumb mongoloid. and when future iterations cut down on its size, its popularity exploded. It wasnt
                >It's just a trend, it'll pass
                it was
                >it's good, but needs to get better

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Every single person I showed it to back then said that it was too big, it was too confusing, it was too annoying, the stylus was stupid, etc. and that they would rather just keep their 3310/3100, or some people said that they were way more into Nokia 6600(which was INSANELY popular at the time) because it looked better and was more user-friendly.

                It might have been a success from a technological standpoint, but it wasn't a phone that the masses adopted. It was too early for them.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Unfortunately for you, your cute little anecdote about your boomer parents being technologically illiterate doesnt change the fact that the P900 was a success and later iterations that addressed its flaws made it massively popular.
                >It was too early for them
                Nice cope but doesnt apply since there was a both an active demand for and an arms race to miniaturize computers, even back then. As opposed to VR or metaverse shit you're desperately trying to parallel.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >the P900 was a success
                I never denied that it was a success. It just wasn't nearly as successful as other phones around the same time. In 2003-2005 Sony Ericsson sold a total of 73.7 million phones, and that includes T68i, T610, T600, T310, T300, T230, Z800, W800, K700, P900, P800, etc.

                Meanwhile a single phone like Nokia 6600 sold 150 million in just 2003. The following year a single phone like Motorola RAZR sold 130 million. That's what's considered massively successful and popular.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >It just wasn't nearly as successful as other phones
                Put those goalposts back retard.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I wrote "It might have been a success from a technological standpoint, but it wasn't a phone that the masses adopted. It was too early for them."

                Where did I move any goalposts?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >it wasn't a phone that the masses adopted.
                youalso wrote
                >I specifically remember tons of people making of the Sony Ericsson P900, saying that smartphones like that would never catch on because there was no real need for them.
                And you've done my job of proving both of those statements wrong for me with those ericcson smartphone sales, and your earlier admission that Blackberry became mainstream in 07-08.
                Trying to argue "W-well, it was successful, but not as successful as others!" is a goalpost shift simply because my point that there was a both an active demand for and an arms race to miniaturize computers, even back then remains unrefuted.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >And you've done my job of proving both of those statements wrong for me with those ericcson smartphone sales
                I'm sorry to tell you, but Sony Ericsson never took off. They were always at the bottom or 2nd to bottom, even though they were more technologically advanced. Like I said from the beginning, the masses just weren't ready for smartphones back then.

                >simply because my point that there was a both an active demand for and an arms race to miniaturize computers
                You specifically wrote "so you live in a world where the ericcson and the blackberry werent the hottest sellers at the time that defined the mobile market" and "The P900 was a success, you dumb mongoloid. and when future iterations cut down on its size, its popularity exploded". Looks like you are the one moving your goalposts now.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                What happened in 08 that killed Erricson? It seemed to be riding the boom with everyone else even though it wasn't as big....oh wasn't it the recession?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >but Sony Ericsson never took off.
                >screencap shows ericsson's market share doubling in just 5 years and standing next to samsung and nokia, only losing steam in 2008 for reasons that had nothing to do with the ericcson itself
                You seem oddly fixated on shooting yourself im the foot. Or maybe you're so desperate for a gotcha that you didnt think it through properly

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >and standing next to samsung and nokia
                2002 - Nokia 35.8% - Samsung 9.8% - Sony Ericsson 5.5%
                2003 - Nokia 34.7% - Samsung 10.5% - Sony Ericsson 5.1%
                2004 - Nokia 30.7% - Samsung 12.6% - Sony Ericsson 6.2%
                2005 - Nokia 32.5% - Samsung 12.7% - Sony Ericsson 6.3%
                2006 - Nokia 34.8% - Samsung 11.8% - Sony Ericsson 7.4%
                2007 - Nokia 37.8% - Samsung 13.4% - Sony Ericsson 8.8%
                2008 - Nokia 38.6% - Samsung 16.3% - Sony Ericsson 7.6%
                2009 - Nokia 36.4% - Samsung 19.5% - Sony Ericsson 4.5%
                2010 - Nokia 28.9% - Samsung 17.6% - Sony Ericsson 2.6%

                In what fucking world is this Sony Ericsson "standing next to Samsung and Nokia"? Sony Ericsson is consistently either the lowest % or second lowest % except for 2010 where it was 5th due to ZTE, HTC, Huawei etc. entering the market.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                plz dont remind

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I dont think you're pretending.
                Take a closer look at the 2006 and 2007 numbers retard

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Take a closer look at the 2006 and 2007 numbers retard
                What about them? You think 7.4% and 8.8% market share are good numbers? Also, keep in mind that 8.8% is their absolute highest ever and it declines every year after until they basically stop existing.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >What about them? You think their market share doubling in 4-5 years are good numbers?
                You dont?
                >and it declines every year after until they basically stop existing
                Due to reasons that bave nothing to do with the ericcson itself, as I mentioned earlier.
                There's also the pointthat Ericcson's smartphone model was catching on with Nokia, Motorola, Huawei and the others, and that Blackberry came in at 2008 but at this point, it doesnt matter that much anymore since your "nobody cared it was too early!" argument is already in pieces

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                They started at 5.5%. Their peak was 8.8%. In what fucking world is this double to you? At this point you're just being pathetic. That growth is 3.3%. They are still 2.2% off from being double.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >They started at 23 million sales. Their peak was 100 million ales. In what fucking world is this double to you?
                Fair point, more like 4.4 times. And seaking of pathetic, you're not even arguing about smartphones anymore in favor of nitpicking

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >UHMMM ACKSHUALLY, NOW I WILL COUNT THE NUMBER OF SALES EVEN THOUGH WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MARKET SHARE % THE ENTIRE TIME
                And you're the one talking about nitpicking? Pathetic.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The market share thing was a cope you brought up little retard, I've been focused on sales numbers since

                >it wasn't a phone that the masses adopted.
                youalso wrote
                >I specifically remember tons of people making of the Sony Ericsson P900, saying that smartphones like that would never catch on because there was no real need for them.
                And you've done my job of proving both of those statements wrong for me with those ericcson smartphone sales, and your earlier admission that Blackberry became mainstream in 07-08.
                Trying to argue "W-well, it was successful, but not as successful as others!" is a goalpost shift simply because my point that there was a both an active demand for and an arms race to miniaturize computers, even back then remains unrefuted.

                because y'know, sales numbers are more indicative of the demand that you claimed was non-existent
                You dont need to try so hard to save face, we're all anonymous here.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >sales numbers are more indicative of the demand
                No, market share % is when we are directly comparing them to what's popular or not.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >comparing them to what's popular or not.
                Another goalpost shift on your end, as I called out earlier
                >Trying to argue "W-well, it was successful, but not as successful as others!" is a goalpost shift simply because my point that there was a both an active demand for and an arms race to miniaturize computers, even back then remains unrefuted.
                And just so you know, you've basically given up on refuting that point or pretending people didnt care about smarphones by now.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Another goalpost shift on your end, as I called out earlier
                You are just a dishonest moron. This entire time the point has been about whether or not Sony Ericsson phones were popular or not. You even tried to claim that both Blackberry and Sony Ericsson were "the hottest sellers at the time" when it was the exact opposite. They were both the lowest.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >This entire time the point has been about whether or not Sony Ericsson phones were popular or not
                >saying that smartphones like that would never catch on because there was no real need for them.
                L M A O
                It's a good thing I can just scroll up to see where the argument started. You should do the same, you've embarrassed yourself enough already
                >They were both the lowest.
                By the market share ratio metric which is pretty meaningless since this whole discussion has been about demand and how smartphones were 'too early

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You are a dishonest moron. My whole point the entire time was that Sony Ericsson's smartphones were too early for mass adoption, which is 100% backed up by their low market share %. I never personally said anything about how smartphones would never catch on, but this is just you being dishonest again, I guess.

                You're just a retard who saw me write that OTHER people said they didn't see a need for smartphones and thus Sony Ericsson's smartphones never really caught on back then, but then convinced yourself that it was my opinion.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Sony Ericsson's smartphones were too early for mass adoption, which is 100% backed up by their low market share %
                But 0% backed by their actual sales ballooning and by the fact that smartphone design bled into the other winning companies leading to the popularity of smartphones themselves skyrocketing
                At this point, you're just desperate because you know by now your little "Durr people said that about smartphones too!" parallelism doesnt apply to VR. They didnt, never did.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                5.5% market share starting. 8.8% market share at the peak. This is among ALL the phones that Sony Ericsson had available. So the Sony Ericsson smartphones were probably like 1% market share at very very best, if we're being incredibly generous. They were not popular. They were not adopted by the masses. P900 released in 2003. It took until ~2010 for smartphones to become mainstream. Blackberry had 21 million subs in 2008, which would be 1.72% market share.

                Anything else you're confused about?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >23 million sales starting. 101 million sales at the peak. This is among ALL the phones that Sony Ericsson had available. So the Sony Ericsson smartphones were probably like 1% market share at very very best, if we're being incredibly generous. They were not popular. They were not adopted by the masses.
                lmao
                >It took until ~2010 for smartphones to become mainstream.
                As a finishing blow, I'll just leave this here
                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_6600
                Sorry buddy, but the whole "Smarphones were too early!" is just wrong.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Nokia 6600
                Wasn't a real smartphone. A real smartphone has touch screen, just like the P900, which is why in one of my initial posts I specifically wrote that other people found the P900 confusing and annoying. I even mentioned the Nokia 6600 several times in this thread as one of the best selling phones at the time and in direct comparison to the P900 because it was 100x easier for people to use since it wasn't a real smartphone like the ones we were talking about, see here

                Every single person I showed it to back then said that it was too big, it was too confusing, it was too annoying, the stylus was stupid, etc. and that they would rather just keep their 3310/3100, or some people said that they were way more into Nokia 6600(which was INSANELY popular at the time) because it looked better and was more user-friendly.

                It might have been a success from a technological standpoint, but it wasn't a phone that the masses adopted. It was too early for them.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Because you wrote it off as Boomers Poopooing its necessity but it sounds like was simply a company with smaller market since even its more standard models still were dwarfed by the bigger competition.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Did they though? A Smartphone makes sense because it's just building on a phone.
                >Oh you have a lesser laptop that doubles as your phone
                It's convenient.
                VR is adding a gimmick onto things that have clearly more convenient avenues, its only appeal is a clunky gimmick. You're saying it's the smartphone when it's definitely more akin to a 3D tv.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Did they though?
                Yes. Smartphones didn't really become fully mainstream until like 2010, and smartphones existed for a long time prior to that. See

                I live in the world where the vast majority of people said that their Nokia 3310 were enough and that they didn't want to carry about phones that were any more "bulky". I specifically remember tons of people making of the Sony Ericsson P900, saying that smartphones like that would never catch on because there was no real need for them.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I live in a world where it's the exact opposite though, every tiny increase of phone tech was always the hottest shit. Buying mp3s, slow ass internet, folding your ipod into a phone. I'm not buying it really. Like I can get reluctance for a cell phones in their infancy but "making your phone into a single gadget rather than carry around 2 different things? Never will catch on" seems like the most retarded bet and nothing like "very awkwardly centralize everything to this headgear when it's already far simpler to just face time"

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Smartphones try from the late 90s to become mainstream, succeeded by 2010 (probably sooner you're just a gay but I'll use your number)
                >VR has been trying over and over since the 80s, possibly sooner. STILL a clunky niche hobby piece. It's 2023.
                Yeah bro totally comparable.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody did dude. Palm Pilots were already a thing. Blackberries basically took over the corporate world as soon as they turned the corner. The use case for an internet connected computer in your pocket and heavily in demand.
                Also see survivorship bias.
                People also said that about 99% of the shit to come out of the dot com bubble and turned out to be right.
                Some people being wrong about 1 technology that turned out to be successful. Does not mean every idea will be.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                They also said it about 3D Tvs, Theranos and Moviepass.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Theranos
                Who the fuck ever said that about Theranos? I'll give you the other ones, but this one is just wrong. 99.99% of people didn't even know about Theranos until news broke about the scam shit.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >People said the same thing about smartphones.
                Complete morons or contrarians maybe. Everyone else saw that thing Jobs was holding and said "That looks significantly better than my shit ass blackberry".

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >You just have to scan yourself one time and you'll have your avatar for VR forever
              >blahblah company has relased metaverse avatar:HD! all you got to do is scan yourself again for a newer, better avatar! pay up at your local scanning station!
              >vidyagame company has a new mechanic that requires another scan, better pay that scanning fee again, anon

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Have to pay the bodyscan fee if you lose or gain weight
                >Have to pay the bodyscan fee if you get taller
                >Have to pay the bodyscan fee if you age significantly
                >Have to pay the bodyscan fee if you lose a limb
                >Have to pay the bodyscan fee every time you want to update your haircut

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                This deserves to be presented in front of investors in a manner that would make you believe that the speaker is explaining how to cure cancer! Get the inspired hand signals out!

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Bread and circuses are what holds this empire of gay and lies together. A "second life" that billions take part in daily is the ultimate circus, letting you do whatever you like in the virtual world while the ruling class destroys your real world.
      >but why is it lame?
      Because the current "elite" are out of touch, tasteless, dumb, and have no real skills beyond nepotism and moneychanging. They sincerely thought Metaverse would be appealing because they're retarded.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        actual retard

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          actual actual retard

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        truth

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You don’t have to give a shit to want to see a corporation fail, the last time I even thought about the meta verse was when it was first announced.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Both google and apple hate facebook and they pounced as soon as zucc slipped

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's big linden pulling all the strings

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yes they’re called investors and they’re not happy about their stocks plummeting as a result of Mets burning money in a dead-end product.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Like some power at be wants us to absolutely hate facebook's fucking SECOND LIFE knock off
      That power is called "common sense".

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >hey put your whole business on our platform
        >no

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Probably money laundering

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    get zucked

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The only "people" who honestly believed they'd ever deliver was out of touch corpo boomers. The funny part is that they still think it's gonna take off

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They're desperate, they smell the second life money printer and figure "YO WE COULD DO THAT AND MAKE EVEN MORE CASH!".
      What they fail to realize is that most people don't want to live in a facebook owned digital world, and the people that DO want some sort of digital world already have what they want with the ability to digitally fuck other people over the internet.
      There's NO realistic userbase for the metaverse.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >they
      Judging by the plummeting stocks and countless facebook employees complaining online, zucc is the only one who still believes it's gonna be a thing.

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care even if it was good, they want Metaverse to be the second "internet" entirely controlled by Facebook, fuck off

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >55% of games industry professionals said the metaverse will succeed
    metachads rise up

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Only 45%? Is a large share just unsure?

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't it kinda alarming that 55% believe it will?

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >The promises of tech execs and crypto evangelists
    I'm sensing a pattern here

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    That still seems a little too small. Don't these people remember Playstation Home? Having to have a 3D avatar to do everything is more of an impediment than immersive. Having many options trumps having many restrictions.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Playstation Home was cool

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Only if you love Sony. I found it embarrassing.

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Only 45%?

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I pretty sure it delivers on its promise, it's the worst spyware know to man.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      What the fuck I'd immediately burn it.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What the fuck is the "promise?" It's supposed to be like VRChat, right?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Read Snowcrash, that's the promise. But Facebook would never publish an open protocol that anyone can plug into and work with.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        thank you for introducing me to this book anon, I'm buying it right now. Not the person you were replying to btw

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >buying a 40 year old book
          with actual money what the fuck is wrong with you

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >protagonist named "Hiro Protagonist"
        No thanks

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          its fine anon. nobody knew what hiro meant back then, weeb levels were extremely low in the popular culture. other than the cringy name of the mc, its a good book. Hiro is basically a bitcoin millionare that lives like a hobo irl, but online he's a gigachad with the hottest nfts and coolest virtual home.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      There's no promise. It always was a scam to soak up government/investor money and inflate the size of the company.

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw i work on this shit as a dev and am probably going to be laid off soon

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      sabotage it
      do it

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        how exactly you sabotage a dumpster fire

        by throwing water on it?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Make it spread to other dumpsters and nearby buildings.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            That would be facilitating a dumpster fire.
            If left to it's own devices, that's what it would naturally do.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          sabotage it
          do it

          FULLY MODEL Zuck's model

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Don't worry, over 30k people are going to lose their jobs in the next 3 months across the entire industry.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        What makes you say that?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Well, Microsoft just layed off 10k people, so it's already 1/3 there.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Google just announced 12k

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      nah you're gonna die a day later in a massive plane crash that noone could figure out how it started

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Just get out now, update your resume and do some interviews elsewhere

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Transition your 3d skills into making hentai clips on pixiv fanbox

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      In the off chance this isn't bait, make some sort of reference to the holocaust so it can at least be real in the Zuckerborg.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically just move to VRChat, or second life

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Hey anon, how autistic was Carmack? Always wanted to meet him

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You think the big names work with lowly grunts? You think Kojimbo has ever even looked a 3D modeler in the eyes? You think David Cage even knows what an "animation rig" is? Do you think Miyamoto even enters the same buildings as his underlings?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Write a book anon
      Throw everyone under the bus and live on royalties bucks

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        This.
        Contact an editor if you don't feel like you can do it by yourself, they will get you a co-author.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Anon there's only one way to save Meta and you know what is.
      Be the hero meta needs.
      Unleash the hot naked furry and anime waifu avatars.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      At least you will be laid off before you can be replaced by AI

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's ok anon, just tell your pals here the inside scoop before you leave. We can all become rich millionaires if we all short Meta.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      What exactly did you do at that job?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      get revenge by leaking the source code

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      why is the gpu utilization only 5%? is it true that everyone on the team are webdevs and people barely know how graphics programming works? also, release the furry avatars and people will come

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Learn to build gay

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Add dicky before you leave.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Do nothing cuz you know you will be laid off soon.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Don't you get a juicy severance or something when that happens

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I would say, jump ship, but, every ship is burning right now, my recommendation, make VR porn games using a custom build of Neo/J-Chat, sell as a SaaS.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Steal as much data as you can get away with and sell it to another tech company, or do what

      Write a book anon
      Throw everyone under the bus and live on royalties bucks

      said and write a book.

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Laughs in Amish

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    And what is Meta's premise, even?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      faceberg realized that they dont have control over hardware like apple and google does with iphone and android and therefore they are slowly getting cucked out of everyone's personal data. So they wanted to create an entirely new industry that they would have ownership/monopoly over and if people used it, then they could monopolize your personal data like apple does on ios.

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >45%
    Thats it god damn facebook must be sending out some large checks still

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I might just be a contrarian here but anyone who thinks this is fucking stupid. These comments will age poorly. What they’re saying is like someone in the 1980s saying a cellphone will never be able to high quality photos, stream any music album in real time, play live tv, or allow you to talk with 32 different people at the same time over video.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      *to take high quality photos

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >These comments will age poorly. What they’re saying is like someone in the 1980s saying a cellphone will never be able to high quality photos,
      this is survivorship bias. Most business ideas and future predictions are incredibly dumb and wrong. You just dont remember them.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Ok Zuck. This shit is stupid. Nobody wants it. We just want games to go back to being fun and affordable for everyone. Not this closed platform proprietary garbage.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, Zucko's fantasy for the Metaverse is basically in the same bin as FTL travel or reliable nuclear fusion. Tech might be possible in our reality, might not. Gonna take a few centuries to see.

  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw faceberg is gonna die in my lifetime

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      He can afford way more heart and blood transplants than you. Zucc will outlive you.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Why would an ayy need a heart transplant?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      i don’t really have a seething hatred for facebook which is quite unfortunate because there are corporations that I hate far more than facebook that I would love to see go up in flames like facebook is right now

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah no shit.

    Why would I want the meta verse and have banned for saying moron
    when I can go to vrchat and say whatever I want?

  29. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The metaverse could EASILY deliver. All they have to do is just make Second Life 2.0 with full AAA backing. The tech is there, server infrastructure is there, the blueprint is there. The problem is that these companies don't actually want that. They want a safespace hugbox where they can advertise 24/7 to everyone for money and nothing else.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >The tech is there
      Maybe if it was entirely localized to individual urban centers or extremely developed, IT conscious countries like Japan or Singapore, but the connections available to most people in the world aren't anywhere near powerful enough to deliver realistic physics calculations or light rendering, much less anything near a VR simulation and anything less is just creating a less convenient Facebook.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        giga-cities are part of the WEF agenda, the eu is already pushing this shit. And every so often you can find news articles of dipshit billionares promising to build ghost cities in the desert to be 1000% green, sustainable, meme bullshit like theyare playing simcity.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah.
      This is pretty much the reason why it'll fail.
      You can have a good virtual social time over on so many other places with FUN in mind like Garry's mod or tower unite... Club penguin, habbo hotel, any MMO... Anyone that's familiar with games can sense the malicious intent behind the metaverse.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Second Life 2.0
      quite out of the scope intended for metaverse.
      first of all, second life is a relic of an old way to intend the internet when smartphones didn't exist, when it was this far west you went to to fully disconnect from your every day life and pretend to be anything you wanted. nowadays this is something only weirdos would do; I mean even back then it was pretty weird doing it, but there was a much stronger divide between being on the internet and the rest of your day.
      the web has been going in a very uniformed direction for at least the past 10 years, and it'll get worse sooner than better. so at some point unless you bother enough to set up fake accounts just to troll, any log in you do anywhere will be traceable to your actual IRL persona.
      because of this, metaverse is intended to become the most sanitized and corporate virtual reality ever. don't think of it as the new second life because the similarities are very superficial, it's more of a bastard child of SL and playstation home.

      tl;dr metaverse is intended to be a gargantuan shopping mall/office, with some minigames thrown in there. that's literally it

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        But how did it cost a 30 billions then? Because of the headset?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Zuck bought up every rival VR company he could. Hhardware, software and supply chains. He hired over 10,000 engineers to stop other companies getting them. Most of Meta's cost is to secure a monopoly.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            So you could shop in Walmart in VR?
            Amazing.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              He bought another VR lens manufacturing company this week. He already bought like 5 of them just to stop other companies getting lenses. If you want to become a millionaire, just start a lens company and wait for Zuck to buy you.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >All they have to do is just make Second Life 2.0 with full AAA backing
      Thats already second life though. IBM managers took courses for how to manage meetings in second life.

  30. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >game industry professionals
    So garden gnomes looking to invest tax payer dollars they laundered?

  31. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I dunno, people seem to like the vrchat

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      yeah they like vrchat because they can have sex and groom kids, not go to fucking walmart

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        That's why people stick to Facebook

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You can't go to walmart in vrchat?
        I know you can go to a mcdonalds there

  32. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    How do I profit from this?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      BUY THE DIP

  33. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Zucc wanted this garbage to be Oz from Summer Wars (link related, its seriously the exact thing Zucc wanted, minus the anime) or The Oasis from Ready Player 1, but both of those are only concepts that work either in retard fantasy like anime, or severe dystopian climates where people are ACTUALLY owned by mega corporations AND the technology is available.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >people are ACTUALLY owned by mega corporations
      >implying that isn't the case already

  34. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Of course because we are now talking about the Metaverse Infinite, NFT 2.0 and Web4.
    Who the fuck thinks about the original Metaverse any longer?

  35. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Idk, the metaverse never had a future in the first place, it was like vr chat but made by corporations to make it feel "new"

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's a trap.
    I ain't goin in that mafucka...

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Lowercase "metaverse"
    >Literally every fucking MMO
    >Multiplayer environments (Before intentionally sabotaging them)
    >What they actually fucking mean is Metaverse TM (R) (C) (Cola)
    >Even VRChat with alienating its own userbase for nft gays after the craze died still has people
    >FUCKING SECOND LIFE
    I want every journalist to immediately get explosive diarrhea.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >VRChat with alienating its own userbase for nft gays
      I thought the big VRChat drama was them introducing awful anti-cheat?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The anti-cheat is healthy because hacking in that game just means making other people offline.
        Sorry you got duped by a ddoser

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >>Even VRChat with alienating its own userbase for nft gays after the craze died
        When did VRChat have nft shit?

        It didn't, the previous anon is some kind of schizo.
        Also.

        >awful anti-cheat
        Boohoo cry about it, game is better than ever now. Scripters were the most obnoxious gays to be around.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >>Even VRChat with alienating its own userbase for nft gays after the craze died
      When did VRChat have nft shit?

  38. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    even if this is a massive failure, which it probably will be, I'm still glad that there's two rich nerds (zuck and gaben) out there funding vr tech

  39. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It has literally nothing to do with video games though.

  40. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    right concept
    wrong time
    we don't have the tech yet
    just wait

  41. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine if they had competent devs instead of diversity hires.

  42. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I still don’t understand what they are trying to do. They always talk about metaverse as if VRChat does not exist.

    And VRChat survives solely on degeneracy and role play which Meta will never allow so why would anyone ever use it instead.

  43. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    This shit will not take off for at least 30 years.
    We simply don’t have the technology or even if we did it would be too expensive for the masses.
    Zucc is finished.

  44. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >new york office spaces are a ghost town
    >what do we do, should we uses these empty spaces in a new way?
    >FUCK NO! tell everyone they must come back to work
    I just don't understand it, these high rises are begging office workers to come back instead of trying to court new business ventures, a bad an idea but at least better then what they are doing is like floors of internet cafes etc, or a high rise with every floor being a different resteraunt, but no fuck that just keep trying to rent it as office space

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Starve the beast

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      converting them to something else would cost money, and even if it didn't it doesn't matter because office space is more profitable

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        it costs them nothing actually it costs the company moving in money, which they have to pay anyway

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Why do the subhuman elite of New York City have such utter contempt for their slaves to be at home and more productive rather than at work and ritualistically humiliated

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        why the fuck are you singling out new york? its the subhuman elite everywhere that are doin it

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          While technically true, it's most true in new york.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I sorta understand it in a bigger picture sort of view. If office workers aren't coming into the city/ downtown then it means other kinds of businesses start to suffer and that can effect minimum wage workers.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        damn that sucks guess they'll have to massively slash rental rates to get people to come back

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >they opened up a new cafe on the 26th floor of that building, wanna go there?
      How does that sound?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty dope actually

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Coffee with a nice view instead of being at the smelly street level where a hobo is flashing you through the window
        sounds great. clearly you've never been to new york

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I mean they already have several massive malls that do exactly that, there's tons of rooftop bars. Like I'm sure it's simplistic to say "just make everything a retail store" since competition would be insane but yeah it's not really as much of a turn off as you think

        >go to grocery store, buy stuff there, all gets mailed to your IRL house
        This should be the obvious nail in the coffin for "real world" VR integration
        You go to the VR Walmart, spend your time walking up and down the VR aisles picking up VR boxes and putting them in your VR cart
        Then, when you're done, you have spent 45 minutes shopping and don't have groceries for another few days
        You'd be better served by going to an actual Walmart (more time spent but groceries today) or using the website's 20 year old e-commerce interface (less time spent but groceries later)
        You'd have to be way ahead of the curve to make a VR shopping experience worth anything
        Like, VR Blockbuster presented by Steam, where you can play demos of the games with the publishers resting easy that you can't pirate the game through your headset
        Of course, doing so makes it way too techy for grandma and thus makes it a terrible market proposition

        I imagined it's more just the Internet Historian/Jon Tron bit, the VR store is just amazon but with less convenience and an annoying video of some bitch talking at you. It's the issue with most these VR ideas, it's just "take something that's already works, and add the inconvenience of putting a Sensory Deprivation Helmet on"

        https://i.imgur.com/9RUSMKy.png

        It's over

        Oh I totally misread that headline, I thought 45% now thought that it was a better idea and was wondering "what has changed?"

  45. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Because the meta verse had huge competition from a free program called VR chat.

    If you've been to both you realize just how SOULLESS it is compared to VRchat. It's so... Corporate. I can't can't describe it. It feels sterile, like you can't do anything out of the ordinary because it would be too "weird".

    I remember going to Venues and seing normal people talk about life, watching UFC, Skrillex, some Katy parry stuff.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It’s a VRChat for normies, the problem is - normies would rather go to a bar and communicate IRL

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Not even that. You can get banned for getting too close to people and making them feel "uncomfortable" in VR chat.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      fucking legendary
      riot cops get fucking owned by the mudmancer

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Who was in the wrong here?

  46. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If they can somehow manage to stall for 2 more GPU generations then they will be golden. The average PC currently uses a 2600x CPU + GTX 1060 GPU which isn't even close to running the Metaverse.

  47. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I hope vr returns to expensive hmds for enthusiasts, facebooks mobile baby vr is the biggest hamper on the technology, (not to mention all the normalfags infesting in vr now) headsets couldve been so much lighter,better res if the focus was on the visuals instead of craming a phone chip in such a small space

  48. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >majority still believe it will deliver
    >took this long for another 10% to wake up
    retards will still feed their delusions for years to come.

  49. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    So they want me to go to work, socialise, and basically everything I do in my life except in a virtual world? While my body sits lifeless in a pod with a VR thing strapped to my head? Isnt this the exact same plot as the Matrix?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Isnt this the exact same plot as the Matrix?
      Nah, we were batteries in that one. This universe we're being used to generate profit rather than power

  50. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Why can't they just bring PlayStation home and port it to PC? It would do gangbusters and function much more of a "metaverse" than this piece of junk.

  51. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What kind of game developers? Obviously the blockchain tagged "your rhino hat will be transferable to all of your games!" hypothetical is all sorts of retarded especially for big companies that want to sell the rhino hat repeatedly. Cross-platform ownership is so frowned upon even GOG stopped handing out the duplicate copies for accounts linked with Steam.

  52. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Feels good to see Zuck spiral
    Gates is next

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Gates already secured his bag and got out the game a long time ago anon.
      Musk is probably next. Ofc they are all so rich none of this matters

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Musk is next
        Completely agree. I don't give a shit about his politics, he just seems prone to stubbornly investing in stuff that hemorrhages money. "Too big to fail" is a real thing but there's a limit.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Tesla reached a market cap higher than all the big automobile manufacturers combined selling less cars than any of them at lower margins. They are all ramping up electric manufacturing alone to surpass Tesla.
          It's crazy that he convinced people a car company is the next apple.

  53. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    How was this managed so damn poorly?
    the product is shit, so all these millions un budget probably went on marketing but any tech person can tell it is trash, and the only people who would be impressed and consider it revolutionary are old people who wouldn't get VR sets in the first place

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
  54. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Just imagine. With all those corporations throwing aways their VR headsets, our market will be overflooded with oculuses and I'll finally get one cheap dedicated for porn.

  55. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >garden gnome
    >highly censored online experience
    >globohomo

    of course it won't, even with VRchudchat it still has a wide level of freedom, until someone chud pedo reports you for harrassment.

  56. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds like their management is pure hell.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      writes like a fag
      good luck getting a job typing that one out

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >good luck getting a job
        Goddamn you must be a retarded moronic zoomer to not know who John Carmack is. That dude could get literally any tech job on the planet that he wanted.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >John Carmack
        You DO know who that is, right?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        lovely bait

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        actually got me. good bait

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >good luck getting a job
        Goddamn you must be a retarded moronic zoomer to not know who John Carmack is. That dude could get literally any tech job on the planet that he wanted.

        >John Carmack
        You DO know who that is, right?

        lovely bait

        John Carmack put down his cat because "She was a net negative on my life"
        https://plasmabeamgames.wordpress.com/2021/10/08/mitzi-the-cat/

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Killing cats in Metadoom when?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Masters of Doom tells us that Mitzi was ill-tempered and known to pee on things, but for years Carmack endured her behaviour.
          I can see where he's coming from, one of my cats went senile and peed on the floor almost daily. I didn't put him down until the day he died but I can't say I didn't consider it pretty much daily.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >I didn't put him down until the day he died
            wat

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Din din din din din!
        Retard alert!

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I agree, Carmack does write like a fag. No wonder Romero bullied his bitch ass.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Romero bullied his bitch ass
          Now tell me who got fired for being a lazy moron

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >but really, it is the more personal pain of seeing a 5% GPU utilization number in production. I am offended by it.
      based

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Tech sector is now in the process of pretty much trimming a bunch of fat
      It doesn't matter how many people you have at a company, when a bunch of them are dead weight that cannot even contribute to a project, which seems to be what Carmack is implying.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >carmack learns how hard the churn of a major company goes
      same bullshit at my fintech job. Wish they'd stop hiring dumb fucking pajeets. Only 1 in 100 are any good

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Diversity hires are saturated in crab bucket mentality. When they see actual talent and drive among their peers, they know they have to sabotage it to lower demands and expectations on themselves.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      His talent is better used anywhere else.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I hope he creates an AI strong enough to destroy humanity

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >5% GPU utilization number in production, I am offended by it
      Heh, what a nerd

  57. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Part of this shit is that "metaverse" gays talk about how cool it will be to get item A in X game, and then proceed to use it in Y game and Z game.
    Thing is, time spent in game X is viewed by the suits of game Y and Z as lost user hours, so why the fuck would they make item A any good in their game? Instead they can make people who spent that time in their game earn item B and C that dabs on item A users. This only hurts metaverse fags, as they'll have to stick with a game if they want to stay equal with the other players, and metaverse games will only make basic attempts to integrate shit from other games into theirs.

  58. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Did anyone expect it to? VR was tried and failed about 4 separate times over the last 10 years. It wasn't going to, and will never pan out until we get something LIKE the quest 2, but lighter, cheaper ($400 is still enormous investment for most people), and more portable. At least for the "metaverse" that facebook seems to be banking on. For gaming, we just need GAMES. We need devs to actually release fucking video games. A token port, and one major release every 2 years is not sustainable anad is why the sales peak, and then crash right the fuck down. People stop using their headsets right away cause they feel burned that the only shit worth playing is boneworks, H3, and beat saber, everything else is meant to be a one and done.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The move to standalone was a mistake. And they over promise. But I do think it is cool and we will eventually some cool uses now that psvr2 exists with passavle hardware and will drive money to more advanced vr games after the pcvr market basically died.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        See my thought is, the lack of support sony offered to PSVR, they basically marketed at launch and the first round of stuff, but after ac7 and re7 came out, I don't remember ever hearing about PSVR again, in fact I frankly thought it was killed off, but no, they still make it and everything.
        I wish there was a fair comparison to make but the vita was doomed from the start with the PSP being the most pirate-friendly platform to ever exist outside of the PC, cause it also suffered from lack of marketing.
        I'm wary of the PSVR2. Hopeful, but wary. Certainly not buying one at launch. Maybe this christmas if they get a decent sale. Or maybe I'll just find one on craigslist a week after launch from some pussy who gets motion sick.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Thing is ps4 was really weak and trying to run vr on it was pushing it imo.
          It could barely run 900p 30fps so VR was out of the question. Ps5 is much more capable.

  59. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >survey of game industry professionals

  60. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I hate facebook for killing myspace, they tried the same thing with the metaverse killing VR chat but people don't want a sanitized experience anymore

  61. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    dat bro lookin' kinda sus tho

  62. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    ONLY 45%?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      55% is probably
      >I dunno

  63. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    the metaverse will flop before star citizen flops

  64. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The concept of a metaverse as Zucc envisioned it was never going to happen. The idea of everything you consoom being part of a big interconnected online marketplace between rival companies is unbelievably retarded if you understand corporate mindsets at all.

    Consider pic related along with the other dead Monolith games like AVP 2. We know their rights are split between three companies. People have approached those three companies trying to work out a compromise to publish them again and each one said "we aren't sharing, get the other two to sell their rights or fuck off". They would unironically rather make no money than share it with their competitors.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      There's a difference between a metaverse and the metaverse. Obviously Zucc wanted Facebook to be THE metaverse, an "official" online mall like Second Life or VRChat where companies would open up shops for them to sell digital items for avatars to walk around with.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Psi-Ops is trapped in IP limbo, on top of being lightning in a bottle.
      it hurts.

  65. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I wish I could see that plastic autism android Zuck in person and just tell him in person no one wants to look like a fucking educational game in VR space.

    Your primary audience wants to be robots, furries, and big titty waifus.

  66. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The real metaverse will be creator-driven, like VR Chat. Not corpo-driven. It will become corpo-driven after normal people do all the hard and creative work.

  67. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    me in the metaverse

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I swear, the dude INTENTIONALLY tries to look like a fucking robot.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        He's a garden variety gnomish psychopath that isn't very good at hiding his lack of emotions

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This dude seriously ordered a toaster that day to pretend he eats toast like the humans.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >See human I also eat toast just like you nyam nyam

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Who the fuck just eats toast without putting something on it

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        one toast sandwich, comin' right up

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          God I hate Britain

  68. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Zuck has the biggest titanic in existence and won’t admit it. He’s going to down with his ship.

  69. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    All I wanted was some more VR games
    Why couldn't he just pour some of his infinite money into making some FUCKING VR GAMES

  70. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >borrow the term from some faggy sci-fi novel
    >change the iconic name of your parent company to shortened faggy term, and sink billions into VR division
    >inspire millions of crypto grifters to generate shitcoins based on metaverse hype at the height of the last crypto bubble
    >all the while, not understanding the social dynamics of nearly 25 years of MMORPGs
    >not knowing stuff like VR chat, project entropia and second life have been around for a while
    i hope those involved who knew it was a sham from the get-go got to enrich themselves and left the retards holding the bag.

  71. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Facebook went about it the wrong way
    Fortnite is unironically going to lead this shit watch

  72. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >I've been thinking of getting a VR headset for my birthday. What's a good setup and what are some good games?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      did you intend to quote that

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        No I fucked up because I'm and ijit.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Quest 2 is best overall option
      https://uploadvr.com/best-oculus-quest-games/

  73. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    They shilled this so fucking hard. It was so obvious when the media bucks ran out.

  74. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Both of those numbers are embarrassingly high for "professionals"

  75. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Where is all the money going? Haven't they supposedly invested billions? While results look like some indie project.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      All the money went into making the fancy VR goggles, which you can currently use to do nothing interesting

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The VR googles were already there the moment they bought oculus. Advancements haven't been multi billion dollar per year like since then. Just look at the software. Why aren't they able to produce some decent looking software with all the money they are invest?

  76. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >the metaverse will never deliver on its promise
    Enter Japan in a couple years where it'll be the same thing but with hot anime bitches instead of this Steve Urkel lookin motherfucker and robot friends. itll make billions

  77. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Every time I talk shit about the meta verse to my sisters husband he goes “that’s what they said about the internet too and look what happened there.”

  78. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Of course it won't. Their "metaverse" is just another VR chat clone, but more locked down and corporate
    It's the difference between creating world wide web and creating facebook. It's not a "verse" but just yet another app

  79. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >games industry professionals
    Why should I care about a bunch of gays' opinion?

  80. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Zuck better sells Oculus to Valve.

  81. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Here I am thinking how to spend less time looking at screens and actually enjoy real life and this guy wants to strap a display to my head. Lmao at this delusional garden gnome.

  82. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Taking financial tip from a fcuking cartoon
    lmao, dont these people realize that presentation is all that matter?

  83. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    it was over as soon as it began

  84. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >metaverse
    Meanwhile, MMOs exist where people just hang out.

  85. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I still dont know what metaverse is or what it was expected to deliver because the more I read about it, the more it sounds like picrel

  86. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    could you imagine a future where you work from home, but you need to keep a VR headset on your head for 8 hours and interact in virtual meetings
    every day

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      this isn't going to happen for at least a couple decades because no fucking company in the world is willing at the moment to shill out money for a vr set to all its employees (on top of a laptop and whatever they might get already)
      more realistically within ten years they might have some sets in the office to use for workshops and remote reunions (true words I've heard from the people exploring these options)

  87. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I haven't touched my Quest 2 in a year since I bought it and used it for 2 days. DLsite japs have abandoned VR completely for almost half a year. Westerners are just shitty partialism trash and furfag model posers. Hardware sucked cock too, fresnel lenses are dog shit blurry trash outside of small focal center, god rays are bad, all VR games suck. It's a car sickness simulator. If smut isn't going to carry it nothing will. I will never buy into faceborg-tier hype again.

  88. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Ok NEET anon here. I have the trillion dollar idea that saves the MV.
    Make a mod that allows you torture Zuckerberg in the most gruesome ways imagineable. Have him record 1000 different cries of pain and agony.
    Everyone loves the metaverse.

  89. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I hope every garden gnome, moron and shitskin fuck off to zuckerbergs metaverse and stay there forever tbh

  90. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Those avatar designs look so uncanny. Looks like something out of a horror movie.

  91. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >bros with no legs
    This shit is worse than second life...
    Not even esteban wants to be part of this mess.

  92. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    what promise?

  93. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Metaverse? Oh absolutely.
    >Quest 2? Not likely
    >VR in general, not on your fucking life.

    Everyone know meta was doa long ago. But Quest 2 is, by far, the hottest VR headset on the market. It's easily going to be for 2-3yrs. Yes, other headsets have better hardware, but Quest 2 has a ton of amazing 3rd party shit you can attach to it. And you can easily use Steam with it.

    And as for VR in general. the main complaint people have is lack of quality content (which I absolutely agree with). The thing that's driving me insane is why haven't anyone, besides that Resident Evil game, figured out that there's a TON of old IP that you can easily convert into VR. Every major game company should be releasing dev kits to easily convert any game they have to VR to programmers.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      People can’t even decide what they want out of VR. I’m cool with just a headset and ye olde controller like RE7, but everyone else wants either a direct brain interface (pipedream) or they keep moving the bar because just one more piece of equipment will cross that line from awkwardly flailing around in a room to deep dive VR.

  94. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Problem is it looks bad and is boring. The company seems rudderless with thousands of people doing nothing. Have clear goals in mind and for God's sake, make it fun to use. Have sex, violence, gambling and all other fun things that people actually want to do instead of boring meeting spaces and shopping.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Problem is, most of what it wants to do is already done by VR Chat, Rec Room, and maybe FreelandVR if that ever comes out.
      If they want to lean heavily on the "hub for many services, all stitched together seamlessly into a whole new reality" thing, that's certainly new, but unless they release another Quest, one that weighs less, is more comfortable, has a better battery life and is still cheap (haha no), nobody's going to want to spend 8+ hours a day in VR, let alone normalfags that put the headset on one time and get nauseous after five minutes.

  95. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t know how you can spend more than a week participating in online meetings and take away from that “yeah let’s make this process more complicated, more committal and more expensive“.
    Just a totally retarded angle missing the target market completely. The entire sales pitch to the professional world is dead on arrival. Pros want simple, functional and interconnected. Metaverse is the opposite of all that.

  96. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I hate these avatars

    Why do these people think we want to look like pixar characters? kids these days want anime and big titty cat milfs

  97. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I can't wait to see zuck give up and go back to his toxic ad platform with his tail between his lizard legs. He's been absolute poison for the VR industry and Facebook can fuck off.

  98. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >sell stupid ideas to clueless investors who are braindead sheep and/or don't know the industry
    >engage in a number of practices that ensure that you don't hire the best
    >don't deal with corporate bloat
    >treat customers like money cows who exist to just stand in a pen and go along with whatever you push on them
    >in addition to what you do with your own company, also march lockstep with people who will gladly make the average person live in squalor if it'll strengthen their control and stroke their egos
    >surprised when it all comes crashing down
    Corporate America collapsing is bringing some tough times, but I do feel schadenfreude watching our wannabe overlords devolve into infighting and backtracking as the money dries up, sometimes being thrown out with nothing but the shirts on their backs and a horrible reputation.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      BTW, a good number of those overlords aren't rich, but they enjoy(ed) disproportionate influence over the decisions of major companies. Games journalists would be a good example, as would modern comic book writers. They don't get a golden parachute.

      It's an odd thing about the current dynamic, where corporations are trying to find some fantasy formula that allows them to lord over the economy forever with low value interchangeable employees who can be replaced at a moment's notice (like woke writers) and authoritarian laws that allow them to litigate would-be competitors out of existence.

  99. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    where's the sweet baby ray's simulator

  100. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    metaverse for gaming will be like WoW but not on shards etc
    do you guys even know how lame metaverse is? its just a big, fast server, metaverse itself is not the threat, its applications are

  101. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    People don't like wearing headsets, they don't now and never will. Even google glasses didn't take off. People hardly even tolerate wearing 3D googles.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Even google glasses didn't take off
      Google Glass did not take off because people were mad about having a camera pointed at them. Despite the fact they had cellphones pointed at them. On top of that the functionality was so limited that it made them almost less useful the the item it was paired with.
      Until it gets "cool" its not going to be a thing.

  102. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    should have asked the Coomer industry professionals

  103. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Metaverse was a buzzword used to drive people into crypto frauds. Plus, VRChat, ChilloutVR and even Second Life surpass Meta, as the latter wants to be a whole universe inside its app but is too vague to deliver anything in return.

  104. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Metaverse value proposition is simply nonexistent. There is little to nothing to be gained from moving corporate and production environments into such a virtual space. In fact in most cases, it’s a detriment, and that’s without even taking the unwieldy goggle-head into account.
    It’s only appeal is novelty, which is why stuff like VRChat is successful - it’s for entertainment and games. But you can’t reposition a giant company like Facebook to glorified video games, so the Zuck tried to sell everyone this asinine idea of “a virtual space for everything”.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Smelly

  105. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    it literally is
    t. vr shill

  106. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    They define metaverse as a virtual space where you can be with others, basically VRChat but with corporations and brands on it. They want it to go beyond virtual games and stuff.
    I don't think the idea will dissapear or just stop being pushed, if it's not the Zuck, then someone else will take over, it's just the next step of us being virtualized.
    I kinda liked the TGS VR stuff they do, I played around a bit laste year in there and completed all the missions, it was fun.

  107. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    the fact that 67 percent believed in it last year tells me everything i need to know about all the people in the games industry

  108. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    because all of the industry would have to work together against its short term profits and greed to build it and that's never gonna happen. instead of metaverse these motherfuckers will just build their own walled gardens.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >instead of metaverse these motherfuckers will just build their own walled gardens.
      Yeah the world would be a better place if we just submitted to a Zuck monopoly
      We need to stop putting down honest job creators

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        nope, you got me wrong. I was talking about metaverse based on video games not dumb social networks. I see it as a place that would unite all parts of industry including the big 3 platform holders and their IPs. monetization would happen inside the metaverse but everyone participating would be able to buy everything they want and use it everywhere they want, including real life.

  109. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >He actually fucking WON

  110. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's a zoom/teams competitor. The entire metaverse thing is an attempt to solve the WFH question of how do you ensure someone's actually pay attention in a meeting when they're not there. It is all about recapturing "lost" productivity, as if most users would be productive if focused.

  111. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    GIMME THE
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  112. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The metaverse as a concept is absolutely going to happen
    It would be a fucking nightmare if it was Zuckerfuck at the head of it though, I believe the general public has a responsibility to not let that happen
    It should have been Carmack

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Sadly Carmack did some crazy mental gymnastics to justify why Facebook is a Good Thing (tm). He posted the logic on his twitter account shortly after being hired, in a vague attempt to ease his conscience. Pathetic really.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >The metaverse as a concept is absolutely going to happen
      You're assuming a lot about the economic future that you really, really shouldn't.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Conventional economies as far as humans are concerned aren't even going to exist in 30 years

  113. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >try to insert yourself as a middleman
    >parasite who does nothing and skims money
    >zuckerberg
    >gnomish for sugar mountain
    this really makes me think

  114. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I don't even get this thing. Even if it turned out perfectly, I still think it would be just kind of dumb and not revolutionary at all.
    It's why I don't really feel that bad for Carmack. I understand how incompetent facebook must be, but it's just dumb idea dude.

  115. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
  116. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Only 45%?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Like someone else said, there's always going to be a portion that says "I don't know", which isn't really a strong vote of confidence, either.

  117. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The boomers working on the metaverse have no idea vr chat exists.

  118. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Carmack is a hack and the only person at ID software to go anywhere with their life is christian

  119. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    best thing about this picture is, the ingame graphics cant even match that absolute horrible comercial shot

  120. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Bullshit.

    Everyone I know and my colleagues in the vidya industry thinks the metaverse is a flop.

  121. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >game industry professionals
    so it's the opinion of a bunch of nerds. why don't they survey the chad industry professionals???

  122. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >worse Second Life
    >you can't even have sex in it

  123. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    All these recent cancerous stuff like nft, the metaverse, ai, crypto stuff, none of it is ever actually gonna work.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      ai is already succeeding

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        No, it's a meme

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          NTA, all I really know is of several lawsuits, shit like gutting copyright, and artists shitting on it, but is there anything more concrete? I recall seeing some joblistings trying to get designers who are comfortable with AI.
          Unless anon is talking about its success, I've seen some pretty good cherry picks that don't have the real massive issues that you usually see so I'm not sure if it's actually progressing.
          Though who knows it could pull an Autodriving and all the "just give it a few years" are just blowing smoke.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            AI on an industry level is mostly being used to optimize original shit to a very fine degree and sift through massive amounts of data. AI art, VA synth, and that kind of thing are legal minefields.

  124. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The fact that they advertised legs as a new feature of sorts, should be telling alone.

    It's also baffling in a sense how this multi billion dollar company cannot make something even as visually appealing as VR chat

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's not baffling. Zucc hires thousands of random retards and just throws money at them hoping they can somehow produce his extremely convoluted concept of THE METAVERSE. When he hires actually competent people like Carmack they actively push against his retarded ideas.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >just throws money at them
        he doesn't
        the people working on this project had to pay zucc to work for him, they are working for free

  125. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >pajeets and bots chat it up: the thread

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Cute anime girl

  126. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >gets a lucky shot 20 years ago
    why do people even follow him?

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