>new entry in series is utter trash. >massive step back from every other game in the series

>new entry in series is utter trash
>massive step back from every other game in the series
>inferior in every respect with many things poorly designed
>games journalists, redditors, normies, and people that never played previous entries flock to new entry to say how great it is
>people who liked previous entries think new entry is bad

What is this phenomenon? I've seen it with several franchises now, pic related just being the most recent example.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    mald

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      16 million + flies clinging to shit isn't impressive

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >16 million + flies clinging to shit isn't impressive
        Neither is the flies or McDonalds popularity/food analogies, but here we are.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >haha it’s poop everyone is bugs something can’t be GOOD if it’s SHIT lol
        Do you ever get tired of yourself

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The more people buy it, the more the IQ statistic averages out.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but you’re not smart

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and the more people that shop at kroger, the more the iq stat averages out? or the more people that eat an icecream cone, or visit a museum. your point?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        maybe the flies know something about shit that we're missing out on

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. Something can only be good if no one buys it. Then you can lord over it as a hidden gem and fucking have a nice day in your parent's closet.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I would be impressed if I saw 16 million flies idk

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >b-but it sold well

      Yes? Is that not exactly what is said in the OP? Not sure what point you think you are making here.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literal NPC.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      got his ass.
      nightnight op

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fibby bibby

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Brittany Spears sold big too. But hey, Brittany is way more enjoyable than this.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm glad Ganker has come around on Elden Souls. It was weird seeing so many people pretend to like it.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But enough about Bloodborne

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >skyrim losing to og doom
      aint no fucking way in hell lmao who made this tourney

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Doom is a better game

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          modern doom yea
          not og

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        V seething over Elden Ring being good but getting upset over Skyrim being trash? That's how we know most people here are no different to redditors. Skyrim is a game for no life gays with rape fantasies.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >resident evil 4 almost wining
      my sides

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what retard made that chart
      you would have to compare every game with every other game, not just random pairs

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's better than 100% of the trash thats come out in the past 10 years.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    While Elden Ring isn't the best souls games, at least it's better than Bloodborne. Maybe better than DS2 as well.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    shazam lost
    ywnbaw

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shazam was objectively correct about every single problem in the game. Sales numbers don't magically invalidate that.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Elden Ring is good

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ds1/2 fags be like "where is muh grounded combat?!"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      where the fuck is it? It's not here

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      people liked artorias so now every boss has to be artorias on heroin with a phase 2 that launches AoE projectiles
      medium and fat rolling are not viable against this so now medium rolling is fast rolling and fat rolling is also fast rolling but only by the previous game standards
      don't forget to Press L2 to Awesome

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        More like Artorias on meth. It would actually be more acceptable if some of those spastic faggit bosses took an opioid now and again.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You’re dishonest as fuck

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    other examples:
    Turd In The Woods
    Skyrimjob
    Grand Turd Auto V
    Red Riding Dildo II: Electric garden gnome Boogaloo

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What is this phenomenon?
    You must be a kid or new to vidya. It's called "reaching a wider audience". They either make the next game in the franchise easier by taking away things that made it hard or adding things that make it way easier for everyone else. Look at all the shit in Elden Ring that isn't in the souls games: summoned AI companions, a 2:1 advantage over invaders, mounted combat, rune arcs, etc. The game is easier by far, so many more people played it than past games.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are talking like a manchild, OP was talking about how they lost quality and not about they added things for the casual. You missed the point.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they lost quality
        how?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they just cut corners at every possible moment
          >hitboxes worst than any of their previous games instead of taking time to design them
          >reusable bosses and even fucking asylum demon
          >armors/weapons from DS1 look better
          >no effort on balancing things so they just let everything be cheesable
          >same assets and animations from the past games, the new ones they created are all terrible animu shit
          >terrible level designed that just repeats itself and just put enemies in ambush to create difficulty instead of making good areas where the enemies movesets would be satisfying to dodge/learn/parry
          >terrible cringe lore
          >barebones online interaction

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            worst than any of their previous games instead of taking time to design them
            dude the hitboxes couldn't be better, just the fact that you can actually jump to dodge through attacks unlike DS2 and DS3 where many attacks are gigantic blatant hitboxes you're forced to roll through.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Just go watch some videos about it since you missed the difference. If you can't notice it by playing I think you aren't going to understand by arguments and comparisons.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >DS2
              >where many attacks are gigantic blatant hitboxes you're forced to roll through.
              doesn't happen. nice make believe head canon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That webm shows the character still staggering despite not getting hit. Before you say it's intentional because "muh shockwaves" let me just say you're retarded and that makes no sense and also sucks from a gameplay perspective.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah that's intentional and you're an idiot

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's intentional for attacks that don't hit you to effect you as if they hit you
                Well good job admitting the devs of DS2 are literally retarded.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well it's a good thing it didn't effect you like it hit you otherwise you'd be spalt on the ground with 3/4's your health gone. So like I said you're an idiot.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why does it affect you at all? The weapon literally doesn't touch you so why have the player get staggered?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because he's a big guy. It gives weight to the enemies attacks.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It gives nonsense to an already nonsensical game, the weapon does not touch you, doesn't matter how big the dude is things that don't touch you shouldn't stagger you.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >muh real life physics in a video game
                Stop being autistic.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not about realism, what value does having attacks that don't hit you still effect you? How does that make the game better? It doesn't. It makes it far worse.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It gives the enemy more depth and is an ability unique to this enemy. How does it make the game worse? This is a completely fair and justifiable use of a shockwave and you're weirdly crying about it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ability unique to this enemy
                No, it's not, lots of enemies do this.
                >How does it make the game worse?
                Because it adds no value to the game and makes hitboxes functionally imprecise and it clashes with the visual information the game gives you as an aid to avoid attacks.

                It adds additional challenge because a big slow predictable enemy can still fuck you if you get caught in his aoe.

                >aoe
                I wouldn't even be mad if they at least gave the aoe a visual effect so you could see how big it is, but because there's no visual counterpart to the shockwave it just makes it seem like a janky hitbox.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Because it adds no value to the game
                why because you say so? It does add value to the game.
                >makes hitboxes functionally imprecise and it clashes with the visual information the game gives you as an aid to avoid attacks.
                No the hitbox is exactly precise and anybody with a brain can understand what's happening. It's not clashing with any visual information. Everything about this specific character's bulky design, lumbering movements, heavy hammer weapon, and slow powerful attack is conveying information before you even attack it. It shouldn't come as a surprise the player staggers if they're in close range of getting slammed, or if it catches them off guard they should immediately recognize in that moment what happened and learn to fight against it. If anyone is confused between being splattered on the ground and dying vs a little stagger animation they're fucking stupid.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why not include a visual element to match the hitbox like literally every other attack in the game? The fact that there isn't one makes it look like an accident not an intentional feature.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can see the weapon impacting, you can see a dust cloud when it impacts. There already are visual cues.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The weapon impacting the ground not the player you mean? And I didn't realise dust clouds could cause people to lose balance.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody thinks it looks like an accident except you because you're an idiot

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                are you trying to make the argument eg ancient dragons foot hitting you, without actually physically hitting you, is somehow not an accident or am i misunderstanding your conversation

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody is talking about the ancient dragon you schizo.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well you're talking about ds2 hitboxes right, ancient dragon is just the poster boy of the "uh it's the shockwave that's hitting you" cope

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No you goal post moving moron we're talking about this one specific enemy and one attack. It's exactly how you should do a shockwave. The ancient dragon would have benefited having a shockwave induced stagger just like that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No offence but when somebody says the hitboxes in ds2 are terrible they're not talking about your character having a rare stumbling animation

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But that's what we're talking about now

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no, you see infamously bad hitboxes are actually a good thing

                Every time I think Fromsimps can't get any stupider they outdo themselves

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It adds additional challenge because a big slow predictable enemy can still fuck you if you get caught in his aoe.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because you retard quit being fucking stupid.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In DS 2 some attacks have a tremor mechanic similar to monster hunter that affects a certain radius outside of the actual hitbox. If the player got hit by the tremor, the animation becomes different and movement is severely reduced. Iirc, the ogre can do this with his falling-on-his-back attack as well.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that's a tremor mechanic you absolute mongoloid retard

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >just the fact that you can actually jump to dodge through attacks
              that's because jumping gives you intangibility on the lower half of your body it has nothing to do with hitboxes being good

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >hitboxes worst than any of their previous games instead of taking time to design them
            objectively wrong, ER has the best hitboxes in the series
            >reusable bosses and even fucking asylum demon
            ER has a much larger list of enemies than any From game before it, and a much larger list of enemies than any open world game
            from DS1 look better
            by what metric? the design? the graphics? personally I think most armor set are really well designed although I wish the colours were more saturated
            >no effort on balancing things so they just let everything be cheesable
            cheese was always in the series and you haven't substantiated why ER isn't balanced
            >same assets and animations from the past games, the new ones they created are all terrible animu shit
            how is it a "massive step back" from prior entries if they are the same as prior entries? you are not making any sense. and the new ones are very good and they fit perfectly the sort of power levels at play that the game tries to convey.
            >terrible level designed that just repeats itself and just put enemies in ambush to create difficulty instead of making good areas where the enemies movesets would be satisfying to dodge/learn/parry
            that isn't true at all and it describes some of the prior entries more than it describes ER, since in many of the previous games the challenge doesn't come as much from the enemy's moveset but from the fact that you fight the enemies on narrow corridors and the like. ER has some of the best designed levels in the whole series, Stormveil and Leyndell mog the entirety of Ds3 and Ds2 by themselves.
            >terrible cringe lore
            a matter of personal taste again
            >barebones online interaction
            what?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              apply yourself before posting

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                apply yourself to the nearest mental asylum, mongoloid.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >zoomie humor
                go back

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Adding things for casuals is part of losing or lowering the quality of the game, retard

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Only if you take yourself as the base costumer of how a game should designed, casual pandering is not a sure way to lessen the quality of a game, its only often done like that.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i disagree considering how much of the toolset is optional. it's only as casual as you want it to be.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The thing is that they added toolkits instead of bettering the game. For example you don't need to make a good feint like the Dancer boss uses if you gave every player a free chance to heal (summons) and ranged attacks (arts)

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              considering i have essentially been playing the same combat for a decade with from soft games, i dont think "bettering the game" has been too high in their focus beyond their more experimental side titles like BB or Sekiro. they know what works, what people expect and it has obviously paid off

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Of course it paid off, all the people the other games alienated got a free get out of jail card and had all the backing of the original costumer base. It was a genius market decision and the only people that got hurt were the ones that truly liked the effort and polish from did sometimes. Of course they were blind to not see how little fucks fromsoft actually gives to maintaining quality (lost izalith, DS2 base game, and etc)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>2:1 advantage over invaders
      >Try to invade in DS3
      >Get ganked every time by the host's 3 sentinels

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It really sucks because this rewards the worst behavior
        >as a player you are taught at the beginning with the npc finger invasion that you should just gang up the invader
        >as a invader you get taught that you are going to get gang raped as soon as you enter so you better use the most cheezable strategies to win

        After a few months it all devolves in only the most annoying pricks being invaders and all the hosts being dickheads that will use cheese and cheats to kill the invader and feel its justified.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oh fuck off, hore combat is only logical if you have a fucking horse and the game itself is 100x harder then old souls games like DeS even if you used shit like summons for every boss.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've played every Souls game and enjoyed Elden Ring

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can still enjoy something and recognise faults with it. the problem i have with elden ring is that it has far too much potential to be a brilliant game but it's obvious a lot of focus were spent on things such as the open world instead of the stuff that make souls game actually brilliant.
      ignoring the low hanging fruit of the sheer amount of reused enemies/mini bosses/regular enemies as mini bosses, the core narrative of the game just kind of sucks. if you take all the legacy dungeons out and stitch them together, you have a game far shorter than any other souls games. you are left with an empty world that doesn't reward you for exploring with actual content and it's clear that you are meant to be poking around to pad out your gametime by going through copy pasted tombs and caves trying to find smithing stones or another ash of war instead of having a fine tuned journey through the game.
      the biggest joke about the game is that they release it with missing features and unfinished questlines. they were somehow super rushed finishing this game despite a prolonged dev cycle. they made a good game sure but will it ever be held in the same light as bloodborne or das1? absolutely not

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But the average player the game is aiming for isn't going to explore all the caves and see how many copy pasted enemies and layout there are. If they do they will be accompanied by a friend so they won't even care. Its designed to be a fast food item that you consume fast and don't think too much about it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          despite reused enemies, i was actually shocked with how many of the dungeons were unique, conceptually, despite shared tile sets. There are plenty of straight forward ones, but I still remember exploring the unique ones with illusory walls, double bosses, etc months after release

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I really wished I could see the game that way, I remember things differently like that waterfall cave looking so amazing and ominous just to have a normal enemy as the boss doing less damage than a wolf.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Games mean different things for different people and the zoomies have too much disposable income from their parents so everything is great for them.
    Those gays don't even like the game that much and will forget it in a few years but they sure love defending it on twitter and other social media just because its the only social interaction that they think its okay to insult someone.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    proofs?

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Tendies still malding over 6 months later
    Impressive

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a good game, deal with it.
    I've been playing these games since DeS released and Elden Ring is probably my third favorite in the series behind Bloodborne and DaS1.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I've been playing these games since DeS released
      woah we've got a gaming expert here

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Canon wise Is the hunter more powerful than Malenia?

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sterilized garbage aimed at wider appeal. It's basically Skyrim, except it also has the reputation of FromSoft behind it so normalfags can pat themselves on the back for being LE HARDCORE.
    This is the only right answer. You cannot dispute this. Do not even try.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      your'r wrong

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ass Effect is also garbage, so it's not a surprise someone like you would say that.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          youre right, ass effect IS garbage but elden ring is good

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It called nostalgia chasing. It occurs when you have nothing going on in your life and you desperately clinge to the good old days, hoping to relive them. It blinds you to awesome new stuff, very sad, many such cases.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Elden Ring ostensibly has everything a Dark Souls fan SHOULS want in a game. It has tons of weapons all with different attack styles and skills, it has tons of customizable power choices you can equip and swap, it has a lot of gear to fashion with, it has a big open world to explore, it has obscure lore and environmental storytelling to chew through, it has lots of bosses to fight, and it has some decently challenging encounters in it.

    And yet, somehow none of that stuff actually elevates it. It never really comes together in a full harmony, it's like a band where every musician is pretty good on their own but they're all playing slightly different tempos and melodies so the whole song just sounds really harsh and tedious to get through and you don't really want to sit through it more than once. Even without the online component, DS1, 3, and yes even 2, and especially Bloodborne, are all tighter, more coherent and focused and thus enjoyable experiences that people are happy to replay.

    And the funny part is, no one actually defends the game. 100% of the posts saying "lol i liek Elden Ring despite all that, I still play it all day I've replayed it 100 times" are just shitposts being contrarian for replies.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ER is a masterpiece and anyone that says otherwise is a jaded contrarian that wants to feel unique and intellectual, or one of the unfortunate many who was mindbroken by the difficulty and is desperately coping now that the "input reading" myth is completely debunked

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's a masterpiece because you are dumb or bad if you don't like
      that's not really how logic or arguments work. if you think something is a masterpiece you must actually bother to explain why

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if you think something is a masterpiece you must actually bother to explain why
        No I don't. If you insist though, it's a masterpiece because it's the best From game, better than your favourite game, and better than any Nintendo/Sony/Microshaft exclusive.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        zoomies are so used to be called wrong that they just ignore anything that goes against their "logic" and feel like they are right

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only thing i love about this game are the visuals and the sense of scale. Everything else about it is merely adequate.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    man I thought the shazam discord would have closed down by now but it turns out they just decided to lay low instead

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ER is generally outstanding apart from Mountain, Consecrated Snowfield, any catacomb dungeon and whenever something is reused. In the end it feels quite disappoint because Mountain and the snowfield area are back to back after an already massive slog, there are dungeons fucking everywhere and they feel so samey and so many enemy types are reused. Was it really that hard to differentiate the basic soldier types? Having them throw different things was a joke, they should have had different weapon types or something.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >invadertrannies still mad because FROM hates them
    Git gud, filtered, mad cuz bad

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    npcs were better in dark souls 1
    world design was better in dark souls 1
    boss design was better in dark souls 1
    parrying and then swapping to hornet ring for a riposte still took more skill than rivers of blood spam
    elden is just straight a downgrade, eat shit
    yes, you

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    step back from every other game in the series
    in every respect with many things poorly designed

    I would ask why you would settle with bait this bad, but
    >73 posts
    Yeah, this is Ganker alright, just biting bait for the fun of it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Elden Ring is a good game, but I hope the next Souls game goes back to the classic "linear" game design instead of open world. The levels in ER look pretty but it has too much copy and paste design instead of the hand tailored encounters in previous games. ER has mobs of enemies in the open world who serve no purpose but to act as filler, where as other games would reward you for fighting tough optional enemies.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wouldn't mind another open world, perhaps just not as expansive.
        Smaller biomes with bigger legacy dungeons, less trashmobs and less tombs/graves/tunnels and whatnot.
        Reward exploration with better stuff than runes.
        I enjoyed exploring the world, I didn't enjoy HAVING to explore the world.

        One of the aspect I dislike the most about the entries is the "read the guide or you'll miss stuff". In the earlier entries it's far more forgivable because the exploration isn't as time consuming. The world doesn't feel small but progressing through it doesn't feel like a chore.
        Sekiro is my favorite in that aspect: you explore the world through every encounter, not because you're looking for runes/souls or crafting materials, or because there might be a hidden npc somewhere for some quests, but because you adapt your route to enemies and level design. It feels like playing.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Elden Ring is amazing and is better than any other Souls game (Exluding Sekiro because it's an uncontested masterpiece)

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tons of optional content
    >fuck-tons of build variety because you can swap out ashes of war on most weapons
    >plenty of ways to cheese the entire game for low level runs
    >made balance changes just to fuck with sweaty pvp gays
    >overworld boss fights have rewards
    >all those cool faith and int weapons
    Nah. This game is amazing even if mountaintops of the giants and consecrated snowfield are complete dogshit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >tons of optional content
      that are copypasted assets from the last cave/village/tomg you were in
      >fuck-tons of build variety because you can swap out ashes of war on most weapons
      but they all look like shit and play like shit too unless you think air katanas and projectiles are cool
      >made balance changes just to fuck with sweaty pvp gays
      They cut content from online interactions you think that is good
      >overworld boss fights have rewards
      this is the norm of open world games
      >all those cool faith and int weapons
      ah like the stupid looking blue knife and the weapons that are dipped in petrol

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >All ashes of war suck
        >All int weapons look stupid so you won't use them
        >All faith weapons look stupid so you won't use them
        Ok so what build were you running with? Or planning to run with?
        ER is definitely more of a sandbox experience than other soulsborne titles, at one point if you're not having fun with the combat you should think about switching your combat tools.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >at one point if you're not having fun with the combat you should think about switching your combat tools.
          that'd maybe be true if this fundamentally changed the gameplay but it doesn't

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I went with a templar-like build longsword and shield with a rapier, mace and flail with some faith spells and the initial talisman. You are right about changing the tools, some ranged options made the game enjoyable since the ranged enemies and positioning are sometimes a chore to get pass. The more I used the ranged options the less fun I had since I didn't have to learn anything and just spam at the back with the occasional healing.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Elden Ring is simply a passable game. I was impressed with it on a technical level, but as you play more it becomes less fun and enjoyable. I don't plan on replaying it, especially after playing Nioh. I think Elden Ring is tighter than its previous entries, the problem is just that you're never really on the same level of speed, as in the anticipation to reaction ratio isn't really in a good spot.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    stop pretending op

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This game is so vastly over hated on this board its insane. It's not the best but come on it was still a cool game to play through. It's not beating Bloodborne, Sekiro, Demon's Souls, or Dark Souls 1, but I think its a cool game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not OP, but I hate it because it's open world garbage. I'm sick of open world garbage. I'm sick of series being raped by this meme and becoming worse because of it. If FromSoftware makes another Soulslike that isn't open world garbage now, I'll reel back on my hatred a bit, but this never happens. Once the open world garbage takes in, it sells like hotcakes and it's all open world garbage from that point forward.

      I also hate it, because, like every other about to release or newly released open world garbage game, people go "THIS ONE IS FINALLY THE GOOD ONE", and it ends up having the exact same flaws that every other open world garbage game does.

      This genre is such a fucking bloatfest.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know OP, maybe it will go away when shitposters like you stops spending their time trying to force a narrative on a website that is known to host mostly contrarians

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seethe chud

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>new entry in series is utter gold
    step forward from every other game in the series
    in every respect with many things well designed
    journalists, redditors, normies, and people that never played previous entries flock to new entry to say how great it is
    who liked previous entries think new entry is good

    Ftfy

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You just designed Sekiro tho

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What is this phenomenon?
    The Ubisoft Effect. An established franchise scraps everything that made it unique and becomes yet another AssCreed or Far Cry clone in a sea of them, bringing in a massive new normalfag fanbase who preorders immediately when they hear the words "open world" while crowding out the actual fans who liked the previous games. Many such cases!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how much of a zoomer do you have to be to not know that zelda has been essentialy an open world game since the very beginning?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Exhibit A of the ignorant newfags who ruined our fanbase with BOTW.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if you mean me with this then just to let you know i've been playing zelda before most of Ganker was even bor

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            born*

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the most egregious example of this is BotW, Zelda is fucking ruined now.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yup, this and skyrim. These three games sold loads and are receiving rapturous praise but I just don’t care for any. They’re just so empty.

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >new entry in series is utter trash
    Nope.
    >massive step back from every other game in the series
    Wrong.
    >inferior in every respect with many things poorly designed
    Absolutely not.
    >games journalists, redditors, normies, and people that never played previous entries flock to new entry to say how great it is
    That's because it is.
    >people who liked previous entries think new entry is bad
    Objectively wrong.

    OP is, as always, a fag.

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The open world adds nothing and you start seeing repetitive architecture, dungeons and bosses two areas in. It's one of the most spread thin games I've ever seen but it gets a free pass like all FromSoft games because le git gud people tying their entire personalities to it again.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    who liked previous entries think new entry is bad
    most ds fans liked elden ring
    i can't believe people still think ds is some kind of secret club

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, and it's sad how the discord trannies have made it impossible to criticize now. In the end fighting so hard against them during that period has backfired hard since Elden Ring is a truly massive disappointment. I knew it was looking bad in the network test when webms people posted showed a game that played exactly the same as Dark Souls 3 instead of taking some risks like Bloodborne and Sekiro. The writing was on the wall then. The worst part? Now that it got 16 million sales we are never getting a Bloodborne or Sekiro ever again, From will never take a risk ever again.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think our standards for games are way too high at this point.
    I got the god of war reboot for free on ps+ and played it for 2 hours, it was 80% cutscenes and while the combat can be fun it's too sparse in between all the walking and talking. Assassin's creed is also boring in the same vein.

    I was dissilusioned with ER but having a taste of the other action games out there put me into perspective how even then it's still massively superior in gameplay.
    I just hoped Fromsoft had built up ER more like bloodborne in terms of combat, and finally brought back trick weapons since DS3 and sekiro skipped them over.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I was dissilusioned with ER but having a taste of the other action games out there put me into perspective how even then it's still massively superior in gameplay.
      >uses fucking god of my wife's son as a comparison
      fromdrones truly are something else

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        recommend me an action game released in the past 4 years that you consider good then

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I could accept the mechanical and design issues (present in every From game in one form or another) if I actually liked the world, but ER's setting doesn't pull me in at all.
    Going down the Siofra well for the first time blew my mind, until I found that the majority of it was just a big fields with the same enemy type. Nokron was cool, but seemed too video gamey in parts.
    Seeing the giant insectoid skull alien in the subterranean river/ ruins was cool, but there's not much else to see or do down there. Maybe taken as a whole, where Nokron, Siofra the Lake of Rot and the area with the waterfall that takes you to Deeproot are all part of the same general "zone", it would be interesting, but things seem too disconnected and shallow.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It sucks because it's gender neutral and respects women. That's why you don't get pulled in. It's a soullessly crafted fantasy world.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      discovering the lake of rot is the one thing that completely pulled me out of the game

      when you have giant underground areas like that it's a perfect opportunity to go crazy with concepts and hazard so I was excited to see what I could find at the bottom of the world

      woops it's a poison swamp, bravo mitsubishi

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think ER has the same baseline level of quality as every From Soulsborne game since DeS has had (meaning that it's still a good game above 90% of the dogshit we're getting from any other dev/publisher nowadays) but it's still very flawed
    It's ultimately a big open world DS3.5, I really wish things like the Sekiro parry or the BB rally/quickstep could've been properly brought forward and implemented (no rally being locked behind an endgame boss, requiring a consumable item, and generally being dogshit doesn't count) instead of falling back on so many of the older systems, especially considering how much faster they've been trying to make things without properly compensating the player because of this insane rat race mentality for keeping things "challenging" except it's being half-assed as evidenced by the multitude of buffs and changes in patches

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fromcuck drones embarrassing themselves in yet another thread
    KEK everytime

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Posts a WEBM from a pre-release version.

      Desperate

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What I don't get is that shit like Cyberpunk and Mass Effect Andromeda get torn apart for being buggy and glitchy yet every god damn Souls games launches like this but it's still the greatest game of all time. The amount of times in ER that bosses just flat out stopped attacking me and had enemies just running into walls was laughable. I notice Japanese games in general get a lot more slack cut to them, almost like that Beethoven analogy about women composers being like dogs standing on their hind legs where the attempt to be like real people is commendable.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they're called fromdrones for a reason anon

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >unironically editing namco and fromsoft into this dystopian presentation by apple
        kek

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's 100% applicable and demonstrably true.

          For instance, I have never seen any other fanbase, anywhere, ever, go through the mental gymnastics to try to argue that a single player game missing such a basic function as a pause button is actually acceptable. You will only ever see this weird delusional religious devotion to a consumer product with Fromdones.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            unironically false statement

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I've seen Fromdrones defend unintended bugs and glitches as features and try to justify their place in the mythos.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >missing such a basic function as a pause button
            lmfao no way that is your example

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >baby upset he can't cheese the game with pause healing like in most casul shit games

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I notice Japanese games in general get a lot more slack cut to them
      Only nu-FromSoft, Nintendo and Capcom get any slack (because they're so westernized). All other Japanese studios get treated way harsher than even the worst western studios.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dude, bring up ANY shitty Japanese game on here and you'll get legions of people saying that you just "didn't get it" and gloss over their glaring flaws as "quirks".

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Cyberpunk and Mass Effect Andromeda get torn apart for being buggy and glitchy yet every god damn Souls games launches like this but it's still the greatest game of all time.
      >I notice Japanese games in general get a lot more slack cut to them

      It's unironically leftists and trannies doing it because From isn't white. It's literally the exact same thing how some African kid nails a bucket to a couple of planks and gets several media stories about being a "revolutionary inventor".

      People are not exaggerating when they call Fromfags a an e-cult, they are literally exactly that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Cool clock, Ahmed

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes
        Remember when these damn chuds and leftists shat on glorious Mass Effect Andromeda, while Ganker tried to defend it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          chuds and leftists supported Andromeda, Ganker overwhelmingly hated it.
          They also heavily support Elden Ring, Ganker has a mixed opinion of it leaning toward the positive.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >They also heavily support Elden Ring
            rebbitchudCirclejerk and other leftist gaymer places hate elden ring and fromsoftare

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone have the image comparing Hayao and Hidetaka Miyazaki on their respective works? It called Hayao an auteur, and Hidetaka a hack, and compared pictures of their respective works. For example it showed the Elden Beast next to the Forest Spirit, along with other such similarities.

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Game has awful framerate issues
    >absolutely ruined online
    >removed Covenants, the most you can do is LARP that you belong to a faction
    >Zero scenario design, constantly throws lazy hallways of mooks at you
    >Reskinned dungeons out the ass
    >horrible skinner box design
    >Enemy reuse is so bad the tutorial enemies arbitrarily appear in the super secret forbidden area
    >"IT WUZ UUUUUUH THE ANSHUN DEMON FROM DA MOON....!" plot done to death in eastern media
    What went so wrong with Bloodborne? pic unrelated

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I definitely do feel like some of the magic of the smaller games was lost. Dark Souls seems so quaint by comparison, and I honestly don’t know if I really truly think the open world is any better. I always really enjoyed the smaller scale of it.

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    who liked previous entries think new entry is bad
    no they don't only a select few autists on Ganker do. you just got filtered hard.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >not liking something=you got filtered

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes quite litteraly.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So everyone got filtered by Big Rigs then?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that's the reply i get when i criticize DeS for locking upgrades behind world tendency autism or other shit. so yes, you got filtered i guess.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In the case of Elden Ring, it's usually true.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So me complaining about all of the copy paste means I'm bad at the game?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yes

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How is it that I can guarantee that you're a fucking DS2 apologist? B team trash makes Elden ring look like the Mona Lisa compared to the second grade efforts of the B team. And 3 sucked also but not as bad.

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fromdrones can't refute this

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cope, japs don't care about nigs

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When will heckin fromchuds stop with their gatekeeping

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there are already a bunch of summons to use + magic. hell summons can even beat most bosses all by themselves, how bad can you be?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >summons can beat most bosses
        For the sake of argument. The only powerful summons locked behind some lategame content or aids bosses. Night maiden mist + rot breath is more efficient way of refusing to play the game.
        >B-but muh wolves
        They suck.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some people just need to be gatekept from exiting their mother's womb, there is no other way.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Souls games gives you tons of ways to play the game rather than a easier difficult to play. Just use summons, magic, or coop if you having a hard time.
      But if you dont wanna play that way and the game is still too hard, just know going on twitter to complain about being a scrub isnt an answer to your problem.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Difficulty modes are almost always poorly implemented and require extra dev time. The game’s got one difficulty and balance is still all over the place.

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That literally every new fighting game

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >new entry in series is utter trash
    >massive step back from every other game in the series
    >inferior in every respect with many things poorly designed
    >games journalists, redditors, normies, and people that never played previous entries flock to new entry to say how great it is
    >people who liked previous entries think new entry is bad
    Retard, backwards idiot Ganker contrarian, that's the phenomenon.
    I have 1k+ hours in BB and ER easily has the second best combat mechanics (which are the meat of the games) in all FROM ARPGs due to jumping, higher importance of R2s and WAs not being just meme gimmicks.
    That sole reason is already enough for me to elevate it above DaS3, 2 and 1 where pressing R2 outside of one-and-a-half dedicated weapons is literally gimping yourself.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty bad take honestly.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty good take honestly.

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fast, teach me some fun PvE build to play

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Spam WA build. Don't forget they nerfed pebble and SoNaF.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah this is how you play the game unfortunately. Mash lion’s claw or something. Try to play legit and you’ll hate it. Fucking spaz bosses with shitloads of health.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Get the falling star beast jaw, stunlock every boss (except Millenia) to death with the weapon art.
      Powerstance knight greatswords.
      Powerstance oracle longhorns.
      Powerstance vulgar millitia sawblades.
      Rotten avatar tree staff.
      Any big weapon you want with waves of darkness.
      Any collossal sword with vyke's lightning.

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a massive improvement in terms of gameplay mechanics. Jumping, movement, ability to switch weapon arts with ashes, yes even crafting.
    There might be issues with balancing and some of the content, but it has probably the best gameplay out of all the souls games.

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