redpill me on the x68000. been interested in getting into old jap computer gaming

redpill me on the x68000
been interested in getting into old jap computer gaming

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most of the games were ported to other platforms and it doesn't have exclusives like PC engine and other Japanese computers from that time.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was a development platform for a lot of arcade games so it has some excellent ports.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just get a 9800 instead of that overpriced meme machine

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's an X68000 mini coming if you'd rather go that route.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder if you can install OS 9 on the new one just like on the old one.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wasn't there a pc-98 or 88 mini? did it have input lag?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There was PC-8001 mini, even older model with really rudimentary games.
        All minis have input lag, they're emulation machines with really cheap hardware.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There was PC-8001 mini, even older model with really rudimentary games.
        All minis have input lag, they're emulation machines with really cheap hardware.

        HAL Laboratory new product: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUBYgtzqkpU

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Outside pokemon, GameFreak releases shitty games that no one gives a crap about.

          >Outside Kirby, HAL makes mini computers that, while they are exceptionally alien to anyone outside japan, they are still respecting their legacy.

          any more proof about how HAL is the superior 2nd partier in nintendo?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Sir Sakurai and late Nintendo president. Any more?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Game Freak full of incompetent when come to milking.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For me, the soul of the x68k resides in its doujin titles, mostly shmups ft. puzzle and fighting games, with the former showing off what the system was musically and graphically capable of. Picrel, Mahou Shooter Pucchin Purin, is my favorite so far.

      Unfortunately, none of these would realistically make it there, only Cho Ren Sha has a chance. Oh well, at least they could also toss Chobi Ren Sha in as an easter egg.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        one of the most powerful gaming systems of the 1980s, with a price to match. influenced the design of the CPS arcade system board. near identical hardware and functionality (x68000 has less sprites). only thing that came close to this was the amiga, but sadly amiga didn't support tiles.

        no thanks
        [...]
        > gaming
        i found most of the real soul was in the actual community releasing music/graphics/digital magazines. it really reminded me of the passion of amiga users except for some strange reason there were no scene-like demos, even though the machine is capable of some amazing effects.

        You guys got any place where I can download doujin and magazine floppies?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      =)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      one of the most powerful gaming systems of the 1980s, with a price to match. influenced the design of the CPS arcade system board. near identical hardware and functionality (x68000 has less sprites). only thing that came close to this was the amiga, but sadly amiga didn't support tiles.

      no thanks

      For me, the soul of the x68k resides in its doujin titles, mostly shmups ft. puzzle and fighting games, with the former showing off what the system was musically and graphically capable of. Picrel, Mahou Shooter Pucchin Purin, is my favorite so far.

      Unfortunately, none of these would realistically make it there, only Cho Ren Sha has a chance. Oh well, at least they could also toss Chobi Ren Sha in as an easter egg.

      > gaming
      i found most of the real soul was in the actual community releasing music/graphics/digital magazines. it really reminded me of the passion of amiga users except for some strange reason there were no scene-like demos, even though the machine is capable of some amazing effects.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Some of the later games did feel like playable demos, such as Angel Dive with its looping backgrounds and some enemies, or XX-Files R's name entry screen's rotating spheres that are there just to flex.

        [...]
        You guys got any place where I can download doujin and magazine floppies?

        https://archive.org/details/Sharp_X68000_Collection
        This has almost everything known. A notable exception I can think of is 2v2 Vs Memorial, a Tokimeki fighting game that plays like MvC.
        https://archive.org/details/2vs2-vs-memorial

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous
        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Some other doujin have been uploaded to nfg gaming's forums. Still missing some stuff hoarded by individuals : blue wings 1, death ephemara, exceed, buray force or guided ms to name a few.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            Are XM6's controls unresponsive to anyone else? I need it for those games the px68k core doesn't run.

            or Moon Soldier II

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Founded two YouTuber and gamefaq discussion about.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you read Japanese? If not, then don't bother.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Best versions of a lot of multi-plat. games are found nowhere else.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    better than fm towns, if nothing else

    the street fighter port is very overrated, it has sound issues. they didn't even bother optimizing SF2 new challengers, so you need a top end model or it runs like shit

    mostly arcade ports, but has a handful of console exclusives from pce, genesis and even snes

    has the best version of Ys 3

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >has the best version of Ys 3
      And if you don't like that version, Falcom's releasing a straight port of the PC-88 version for X68000 later this year.
      https://www.falcom.co.jp/games-data/ys3_x68000

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Live stream on October 4th
        shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tqNnQsJh0

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Falcom
        >releasing a port of Ys 3
        >on X68K

        What is this time machine wizardry?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Holy shit, nice.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good stuff.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >has the best version of Ys 3
      That's the Turbografx CD

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >That's the Turbografx CD
        >worse graphics
        >godawful scrolling and annoying voices

        the music is good though

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          >annoying voices
          What the hell happened with the English voice acting in 3? 1&2 English VA was fine.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            They spent big on professionals for books 1 and 2. Probably spent about 5 bucks on 3.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well, it has castlevania and uh... I guess some porn majhong or something.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Like all of these Japanese-only pre-Windows PCs it's pretty cool but not worth trying to nip up the real hardware anymore. Shit's mega expensive in today's reseller market, and the majority of the OEM components in them are guaranteed to need replacement or maintenance.
    Emulators and MISTER have already hit cycle accuracy and the entire library's been dumped for the x68000 (you can even run the original OS and pretend you're using it for non-game shit), so you should check that out first before trying to commit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait what? Last I checked the Mister core is unfinished.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        same, iirc it can play popular stuff like the castlevania games, but is otherwise bug ridden with issues

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Zuiki

      BTW, here's a great vid for you if you're interested in seeing the delicious insides of the X68000.

      been meaning to sell my x68000 set for a while now but locals are more into amiga

      ill probably do $300 if anyone is interested [s]pasokon#8971[/s]

      Hmmmm

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >and the entire library's been dumped for the x68000
      No fucking way an entire library was ever dumped for any notable personal computer system, I bet there's doujin games only ever sold on comiket that faded into such obscurity nobody on the internet knows they exist

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ok

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cho_Ren_Sha_68K

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's available on PC.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes its ported to windows 10 and free
        check it out its great

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes its ported to windows 10 and free
        check it out its great

        I honestly prefer the emulated X68k version over the windows port, it runs at 55fps and has slowdown when there's too much shit on screen, making it much more manageable (and, for me, more enjoyable) to play

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the games arent worth it, most of them are on multiple floppy disks

    fucking fatal fury special is on 9 disks...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      do you not have the attention span to do a one-time install with multiple disks?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >9 disks
      Cart chad here.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The game you chose there is worth setting up an emulator; it's fantastic. I'm sure you already know, but it also got a PlayStation port. It's supposedly vastly inferior to the X68000 original according to at least one anon on here, but I frankly can't tell much of a difference and appreciate the arranged mode it includes.
    I've mostly played arcade ports which all play very well and have great graphics and music. It must be a truly impressive machine in person.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >X68K
      >Dragon Quest IV

      WHAT THE FUCK?!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most Dragon Quest games have been ported everywhere.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Does the X68K version have any substantial difference from the Famicom version? There is no info about it anywhere except one youtube video in which monsters appear glitchy but that may just be the emulator

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Music is quite different, that's about all I notice from a quick youtube vid

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://kyokugen.info/dq4/
            Going by this explaining the differences with the PS1, DS and mobile versions and not mentioning the X86000 I can only assume it is identical to the famicom version. Wonderswan JRPG ports run at 75 hz and you can get through them faster so maybe the X86000 version runs a little slower than the famicom.

            https://kyokugen.info/dq4/

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know anything about it, but it's probably inferior to the Famicom/NES version.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most Dragon Quest games have been ported everywhere.

        Does the X68K version have any substantial difference from the Famicom version? There is no info about it anywhere except one youtube video in which monsters appear glitchy but that may just be the emulator

        Look like Nintendo didn’t purchased right to Dragon Quest and SMT series.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Radiochan

          I don't know anything about it, but it's probably inferior to the Famicom/NES version.

          Does the X68K version have any substantial difference from the Famicom version? There is no info about it anywhere except one youtube video in which monsters appear glitchy but that may just be the emulator

          >X68K
          >Dragon Quest IV

          WHAT THE FUCK?!

          Doujin port

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That the case

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Nintendo’s co-teammates

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The main thing the X68000 had going for it were arcade accurate ports of arcade games. Also Cho Ren Sha 68k.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You'll learn more surfing Japanese twitter than you will anything you read here. With deepl and twitter auto-translate you have all the tools you need.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Star Wars: Attack on the Death Star is another great title, with shockingly good digitized voice clips from the movie.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The thing ran at 55hz so if you don't know what that means and you're trying to emulate it, you're going to have games running at the wrong speed/jerky scrolling etc.

    There's about half a dozen good games on it that are original, the rest are arcade ports and homebrew rubbish.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish they would manufacture new tower cases that could take modern components.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Radiochan

    If you want real hardware it's horribly expensive. Via emulation I've found that I enjoy FM Towns ports more.
    That being said it's a great machine full of fantastic games, and some games natively support SNES and MD controllers, if you have the adapters for them (or are just emulating)

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    X68000 music is on another level. Having a dedicated drum kit to add on FM synthesized music, especially on real hardware, sounds absolutely incredible.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Having a dedicated drum kit to add on FM synthesized music, especially on real hardware, sounds absolutely incredible.
      Kinda wish GBA slightly use ym3438 and N64 with latest FM synth arcade technology.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yamaha's chips weren't cheap enough. nintendo are notorious for using the most cost effective methods possible.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >yamaha's chips weren't cheap enough
          It is that really?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Low cost method is some bullshit I ever heard.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >weren’t cheap enough
          For example, SNES using 68k cpu result 200 dollar price tag. Another one was GameCube mini disc cost than PS2/Xbox offers.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >playing castlevania with mt32 music
    what a great machine

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For me, arranger and CM64

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sovl system

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its by far the best japanese computer for gaming, plenty of arcade ports or multiplats that even improved the original experience. And the main reason why the platform is still remembered is the music, the music is out of this world

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zuiki

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wtf i thought the mini thing was just a joke

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        one of the most powerful gaming systems of the 1980s, with a price to match. influenced the design of the CPS arcade system board. near identical hardware and functionality (x68000 has less sprites). only thing that came close to this was the amiga, but sadly amiga didn't support tiles.

        no thanks
        [...]
        > gaming
        i found most of the real soul was in the actual community releasing music/graphics/digital magazines. it really reminded me of the passion of amiga users except for some strange reason there were no scene-like demos, even though the machine is capable of some amazing effects.

        Gonna buy it soon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      LETS GO!!!

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Been confirmed. Amiga gay lost.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God I want this thing so bad. I hope it comes with Genocide 2, that game is so cool.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also new port like western point and click adventure, CPS1.5, Konami arcade and original games.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        its a pretty cool game, but I'd say it takes a bit too much influence from Mad Stalker, esp the 3rd stage (iirc) looks so much like stage 1 of Mad Stalker

        really, that companies best game was mr mosquito, hahahaha

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >its a pretty cool game, but I'd say it takes a bit too much influence from Mad Stalker
          It's the other way around actually lol.
          Genocide 2: 1991
          Mad Stalker: 1994

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            how crazy, i never realized!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What chip does this run on?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        so far, all that has been shown is just teases, but actually X68000 emulation is not that hard, im sure a CPU of the level of the NESmini would be enough for any game on the system.

        now granted if they were to integrate a way to choose music type (FM, XG, GS, GMIDI), that might require a bit more juice, probably something on the level of the PSCMini.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Man, its kind of a bummer everything these days is the same ARM produced by a handful chinese fabs

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    but, you don't read Japanese, Anon-kun...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are very effective ways to use machine translation to play the games now.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How does this play on the mister? Heard someone say not so good elsewhere here

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BTW, here's a great vid for you if you're interested in seeing the delicious insides of the X68000.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    been meaning to sell my x68000 set for a while now but locals are more into amiga

    ill probably do $300 if anyone is interested [s]pasokon#8971[/s]

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So what about public domain?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hate how badly I want to impulsively spend $300 on this, but then I would also have to collect games.
      I'm not gonna buy this, but how hard is it to play backups of games on one of these things?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but then I would also have to collect games
        Can't you just stick all of the pirated games on a hard drive?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, duh. It's a computer.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Only poorfags ask such silly questions.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's more of a question of convenience, it's an obscure 80s PC exclusive to Japan and only way to get games "legit" is auctions through a proxy, with 1 month wait to get them delivered.
            This sucks whether you can afford it or not.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You sound poor in mind and spirit.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Pathetic

              Gay

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Play 100 hours of X68k games on an emulator and if you still think it's worth $300 then buy it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's precisely why I won't buy it; I know I won't use it enough. I've just always thought it was a very handsome computer.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that damn thing is so fucking beautiful

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Gay

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      I'll buy it. You stateside or EU/UK?

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did any x68000 games have netplay?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      pls respond

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the best PC emulator for it and can I setup it to output at original resolutions and refresh rates to my CRT?
    I have a mister but X68000 core on it is currently fucked, can do original refresh but resolution is wrong, sound is shit and half the games don't work

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      xm6 pro-68k so far played every game I threw at it

      and it runs on literal toasters

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The handle.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    X68000 Mini confirmed

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      biggest scam

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based

      biggest scam

      Cringe

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Z
      New CPS2-style Hyper DBZ port?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      hopefully we get info about it tomorrow or later today.

      also...

      >Releases in October 8th.

      better that info be REALLY good, cuz regularly a mini console takes 9 months to a full year from announcement to release, all the miniconsoles have been like that.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Same month when Bayonetta 3 debut.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Oh yeah…

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The TGS is open now, but actually there wasnt anything related to the Z except a proto model for display. no trailer, no gamelist, no features, no nothing.

        and just discovered the October 8 date is not the release date, but the preorders opening. so Bayonetta is not gonna mog it.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I really wish companies would put in a bit of effort and make some clone chip asics or something. I really dont see the point of these things when you could just grab a raspi and a case

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Of all the big name Japanese meme computers (PC-98, MSX, X68000) X68000 is probably the one least worth getting. Extremely high price (I could buy multiple 98s and MSXs for the price of one), and while it has a lot of great games, most of them are arcade games you can already play a million different ways now. Granted, they are amazing ports, but are they worth spending at minimum 1500 (closer to and above 2k if you buy on ebay)? If you want to get into older Japanese computers, I'd suggest the MSX primarily for being the cheapest (~200-300$), with a great library, plenty of games you don't need to know Japanese for, and being the easiest to get up and running (comparatively). If you can speak JP and are willing to deal with something more complex than I'd suggest an early PC9821, but that'd require its own discussion.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >minimum $1500

      been meaning to sell my x68000 set for a while now but locals are more into amiga

      ill probably do $300 if anyone is interested [s]pasokon#8971[/s]

      >$300

      whats going on here

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I refuse to believe that dude is actually selling for 300. Go on eBay and Yahoo auctions and look at real prices for these things. Once you figure in a keyboard, mouse, and a compatible monitor/upscaler 1500 is a bargain.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          schizo

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            ?

  33. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone out there trying to run X68000 stuff on Retroarch: for the past few years, this core (PK68) has been broken and will not work. If you download a nightly build, however, it works fine. If you're launching your games and you get a blank screen and then nothing, this is the bug fixed by using a nightly build of PK68.

  34. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
  35. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The keyboard

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >25 year-old monitor has better contrast than my modern IPS panel.
    Why do we evolve backwards?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      If you're talking about the LCD in the picture it most certainly doesn't have better contrast than anything.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Better than my IPS LG 850b.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          How could you tell? You're looking at a photo of it through your IPS monitor.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            The difference between the black bezels and the black area.

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Compared to the NEC machines, It's a little easier to get into if you're an EOP and has pretty good arcade ports for it's time. It's also built for smooth scrolling from the get-go which is also a big plus for action games.
    It also has a few good originals like pic related

  38. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Any recommended doujin soft? Preferably with some nice graphics.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Sailor Moon or abandon Metroid remake.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >abandon Metroid remake
        can't find any info on this one

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          It forgotten fan project

  39. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Where are all the favorite game posts?! I need my lists of games to play.

  40. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Any way to switch sound processor for the retroarch core? Too lazy to set up the standalone emulator and ht looks like the xf keys are not supported In RA

  41. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    All i want is a translation of the X68000 Port of Mechwarrior 1, it is the best port of all 3 and endorsed by tatsunoko and studio nue.

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