There are people still thinking Arthas wasn't in his right.

There are people still thinking Arthas wasn't in his right.

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      don't mind me lol i just found the pic funny

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What did he do?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing wrong.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Singlehandedly doomed his kingdom and handed it to the Scourge on a silver platter.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        That because Uther being a shit teacher and Jaina being a shit friend.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          No amount of teaching could overcome Arthas' nature as a brat who is quick to rush head first into things.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            If he's a brat no one would follow him. Clearly the soldiers thought otherwise. It's mentor's job to guide his pupils and Uther failed spectacularly and doubling so as a retainer.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >If he's a brat no one would follow him. Clearly the soldiers thought otherwise.
              Are you retarded? Soldiers don't choose who to follow.
              Arthas is royalty and a high ranking officer based on the fact that he's royalty.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Mutiny.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Arthas is royalty and a high ranking officer based on the fact that he's royalty.
                The entire dialogue at the start of culling disproves this, or at least shows that he doesn't outrank Uther.
                >Watch your tone with me boy, you may the prince but i'm still your superior as a paladin
                Uther literally tells him that strictly speaking, he is Arthas' superior.
                When Arthas ordered him to purge Stratholme (yes, he gave an order to a superior officer).
                >Damn it, Uther! As your future king, I order you to purge this city!
                Uther told him to fuck off, Arthas then pulled the "I'm the prince, therefore i'm your king one day" card.
                >Have I? Lord Uther, by my right of succession and the sovereignty of my crown, I hereby relieve you of your command and suspend your paladins from service.
                Arthas argues that because he will be one day the supreme commander, that Uther (and his men) should follow his command, despite being outranked by Uther.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Being a high ranking officer militarily by virtue of noble blood does not necessarily mean he gets to outrank uther as a paladin within their religious order. Military/government =/= religious knightly order. The king may have supreme command over everything but the prince may still be subject to his seniors in the scope of his duties as a paladin.
                He could maybe theoretically give people orders as the heir apparent, but cannot in his position of paladin. There isn't really a conflict there.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                All power is theoretical until applied. People there clearly

                One problem is that it was never clear how many people were infected in the first place. Another problem is that killing random civilians will just leave more corpses to be turned in to the Undead. In the cutscene after the mission they clearly show survivors burning bodies, meaning not everyone was infected, and Arthas didn't bother burning them to prevent them from being resurrected by necromancers. Also, the zombification only works if they ate the grain in the first place according to the game.

                One solution is just to escort as many people out of the city as possible and quarantining the ones they know to be infected. It would have been way easier too, considering Arthas would have the help from the rest of his men, Jaina and her forces, and Uther and his paladins.

                >One solution is just to escort as many people out of the city as possible and quarantining the ones they know to be infected. It would have been way easier too, considering Arthas would have the help from the rest of his men, Jaina and her forces, and Uther and his paladins.
                No time, Mal'Ganis had attacked, no means to determine if someone's infected, very high risk of the infected breaking free and attacking your army which is now compromised because they're in quarantine mode instead of combat mode

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Arthas managed to fight off Malganis with his splintered forces AND purged the city. With the help of everyone that left him, specifically Uther and all his paladins, stomping out Malganis would be a cake walk. With that in mind you can easily assign knights, priests, and paladins to escort groups of civilians out. Anyone that starts turning will just be killed on sight.

                It also avoids the issue of leaving behind unburned corpses that bolster the undead forces.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Brats aren't willing to sacrifice themselves. Brats don't risk their lives for the sake of others. Brats don't endure long sieges against massive hordes.
            Arthas had a lot of problems and flaws, but brattishness wasn't one of them. He didn't think too much of himself, he expected too much of himself, and he inevitably reached a breaking point.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        False.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        If he had done nothing there would have been an entire city of zombies ready to overrun Lordaeron so it's not like that would have been any better.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine thinking humanity stood a chance in the first place. Lordaeron was lost to the plague before anyone even knew it. Literally nobody in the entire kingdom could do jack shit about it. I don't know why people blame Arthas so much. At least he tried.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't know why people blame Arthas so much.
          Because he fucked absolutely everything up by refusing to listen to anyone in favor of constantly playing right into the hands of the giant demon that was leading him to getting frostmourne and becoming the avatar of the lich king? He also then PERSONALLY slays the king and, again, hands the kingdom to the Scourge on a silver platter.
          Arthas literally did everything wrong and Lordaeron falling is 100% on his stupidity.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            So you think that Lordaeron would've survived a zombie plague if Arthas had just been a good paladin? That all those people freely being turned into zombies would magically just stop being a problem?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Also fucked over the elves bigtime

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Reforged

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    at this point i just consider this topic revisionism. otherwise i have no idea why this still is relevant or ever was

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >young prince is going through a hard time
    >i know, being the wise old mentor that i am, i'll abandon him on his quest and i'll take his hot girlfriend with me

    uther was a chad
    before he died he should have told arthas what it was like to fuck jaina

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    STRAAAATHOOOOLME

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The cinematic was pretty good

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    My sides

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Those of you who have the will to save this land, follow me. The rest of you... get out of my sight
    Hmmmm

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You've just tossed a terrible salad, Arthas

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        *ding*

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe they could have stopped him if Jaina didn't take all untainted food and manpower and fucked off to another continent.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >basedboy developer shares his stupid opinion and now mental midgets think they have a point
    Arthas was right.
    Arthas did nothing wrong.
    Seethe cope and dilate.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I cannot get behind the "thought" process of someone who would not purge Stratholme. You've been indoctrinated by fucking shonen anime and marvel movies, things will not all magically go well if you only do the "right" (pussy) thing.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Bizarrely the I think the person who wrote it thinks the purge was wrong.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      because dispel disease is a spell that exists in-universe and even when the zombie plague hit in world of warcraft before WotLK even some amateurish priest or paladin in his early level 20s or so could dispel it effortlessly

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Actually, the disease became more and more resistant to dispels as the event progressed.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >wowbad headcanon
        Disease Cloud is undispellable.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        If dispelling the undead plague is so easy why didn't arthas and uther just heal the citizens right there?

        I'm sure they just forgot it was an option.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >le in-game mechanics vs world mechanics
        why didn't they just resurrect everyone?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The plague of undeath is a highest tier disease that is undispellable. The entirety of the Forsaken toiling for decades could not find a way to undo it, only duplicate the formula or improve on it in some situations. If you get infected with it, it's straight to hell with you after you die, no ifs and buts about it. Out of all the retcons WoW had suffered , that one thing had remained a constant. The plague of undeath was incurable.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >If you get infected with it, it's straight to hell with you after you die,
          Except if you ask a holy wind chime really nicely

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      One problem is that it was never clear how many people were infected in the first place. Another problem is that killing random civilians will just leave more corpses to be turned in to the Undead. In the cutscene after the mission they clearly show survivors burning bodies, meaning not everyone was infected, and Arthas didn't bother burning them to prevent them from being resurrected by necromancers. Also, the zombification only works if they ate the grain in the first place according to the game.

      One solution is just to escort as many people out of the city as possible and quarantining the ones they know to be infected. It would have been way easier too, considering Arthas would have the help from the rest of his men, Jaina and her forces, and Uther and his paladins.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >We must kill everyone with the coof to prove there isn't a coof

    Anon, Arthas had about the brain power of the fucking Chinese government

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      retard

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      wtf i love chinks now

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Glad you could bake it.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    He was in the right up to the moment he picked up Frostmourne. He didn't even need the sword, as it's entirely possible to wipe Mal'Ganis' base out with nothing but mortar teams and knights.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >it's entirely possible to wipe Mal'Ganis' base out with nothing but mortar teams and knights.
      And you can kill Archimonde with a bunch of goblin land mines. Gameplay isn't always consistent with plot.

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    everyone is captain handsight when talking about this topic
    >of course we know what happens after, it is so obious what the correct choice is

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      purging stratholme was the objectively correct decision but at the same time murdering a bunch of helpless peasants clearly started his descent into madness and made him much easier to corrupt

      it's not really hindsight because arthas already had experience with undead in hearthglen and knew how dangerous they were

      Yeah sure but give me some ways to, you know, not letting undead overrun the entire fucking region.
      Without killing them of course.
      I don't even remember if they did have a cure after Arthas became the Lick King.

      there's still no cure, in wow the forsaken have been researching cures for years and have come up short every time

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah sure but give me some ways to, you know, not letting undead overrun the entire fucking region.
    Without killing them of course.
    I don't even remember if they did have a cure after Arthas became the Lick King.

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Ding!

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's done!

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Every Arthas apologist has to first pretend there's absolutely no in between with "kill literally everyone in this city" and "lie down and let the scourge devour my cock and then the entire world."

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      There isn't. You either kill them before they turn or you have to deal with an entire city's worth of undead in addition to already existing opposition led by Mal'Ganis and his necromancers. The forces of Lordaeron were already badly outnumbered and they had no way of establishing a meaningful quarantine or exclusion zone that wouldn't be violated by a couple of ghouls and abominations immediately, spreading the plague everywhere further. If anything, that would have the job of the Scourge easier.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Is this the part where you headcanon an easy alternative within Arthas' means and knowledge? People try this every thread, and there's too many holes in every one.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The entire city was infected. The entire city must be purged.

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Glad I could make it, Arthas.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Quickly my warriors! These monsters have destroyed our ships, and robbed you of your way home! Slay them all in the name of Lordaeron!

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        ah yes, the gulf of dragonblight incident

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone deserves what's coming, holy shit

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Arthas was out of line.

    He should have waited for an official CDC response.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Have you considered making a sacrifice for the greater good?

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Americans are mentally ill

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Glad you could bake it Uther.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I watch my tone with you boy

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    RoC was fine, TFT ruined everything

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      ROC has an absolutely better campaign but FT rounded out the game itself while continuing what it established in a respectable manner.
      >Arthas part Human
      simple, but escalates into undeniable Kino
      >Thrall goes to Kalimdor
      Quite good. nice feeling of discovery and journey. probably the second best campaign by virtue of being methodic and atmospheric
      >Arthas part Undead; featuring the Burning Legion
      metal. ties some gameplay elements of the other 2 campaigns together but places more emphasis on larger scenarios with fewer sub-quests
      >Night Elves
      ties all story and gameplay beats together, is incredible. evokes many different feelings and moods while expanding upon everything before it and then some.

      >Maiev and Malfurion / Tyrande: globetrotters
      kino. extremely mysterious too.
      >Kael'Thas, Illidain, the Naga, and the Draenei
      Kino, has some slow points though; ignore that this was obviously supposed to be a 5th faction for WC4 what with the united races
      >Sylvanas
      just alright. nothing really stands out.
      >Bonus: Thrall part 3
      Is good but it makes me feel bad every time

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Childhood is believing Uther is right
    Aduthood is realizing Uther is clinically retarded

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