Why did they go from fantastical Arabian fantasy with a goofy lead that was serious when it was important to CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES grimdark?

Why did they go from fantastical Arabian fantasy with a goofy lead that was serious when it was important to CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES grimdark?

What the fuck were they smoking that made them think "Yeah the audience will love this shift"?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"Yeah the audience will love this shift"?
    Well, the audience DID love that shift. Warrior Within is the wellknown and most loved entry of PoP.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do they insist on changing children's characters into this shit?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Well, the audience DID love that shift.
      Not initially. Back when it first came out it was relentlessly mocked for being edgy. Some even called it "Edgelord Within". It's beloved today, but that can probably be attributed to nostalgia. Sands of Time is considered the classic in the trilogy, not Warrior Within.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yea i didnt care for warrior within after beating sands of time.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Insomniac_doze

        Sot is just better I still like ww

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're a fucking idiot zoomer trying to revise history.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sorry you can't accept the truth you retarded millennial

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody used the term edgelord back then
        Emo sure

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Perfectly nailed it, emo was the equivalent of edgelord back in the days. Oh boy, those were different times indeed.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, first we thought emos were the worst thing that happened to mankind, then hipsters, then metrosexuals, and now we are here.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Incorrect.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Some even called it "Edgelord Within"
        Why would you lie about something so retarded?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Back when the internet didn't tell you what to think most guys loved Warrior Within including me. The combo system was extremely satisfying and changing the time was interesting. Also tits.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Back when the internet didn't tell you what to think most guys loved Warrior Within including me.

          This. I remember looking online and seeing it being mocked, but I didn't care about it. I thought it was awesome as fuck, and literally everyone of my friends with a PS played it and loved it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I remember looking online and seeing it being mocked
            The worst part is that detractors only complained about dumb shit. Like combo names, Shahdee being half naked or how the tone was edgy and different from SOT. I guess that's what happens when the actual gameplay is fucking perfect, you zero in on something irrelevant.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              shahdee was the equivalent of a big budget evony ad, barely in the game and only there to sell copies
              different from sot is an entirely valid criticism for a sequel, which is mainly where the edgy = bad comments come from
              acting like it's the epitome of gameplay when it released at the same time as ninja gaiden, dmc, gow, etc is just absurd
              I'm good with people saying they prefer ww over sot, but acting like a nonce you can fuck right off

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        holy shit the only other history revisionism that compares to this retard take is the lie of the holocaust (that didn't happen)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Now that I think about it, I rented Warrior Within even though I had never played Sands of Time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Warrior Within is the wellknown and most loved entry of PoP.
      What the fuck are you smoking?
      Sands of Time is the unanimously loved masterpiece, other 2 of the trilogy are divisive as fuck.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Warrior Within is the wellknown and most loved entry of PoP.
      I didn't even play the first

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Well, the audience DID love that shift.
      Not initially. Back when it first came out it was relentlessly mocked for being edgy. Some even called it "Edgelord Within". It's beloved today, but that can probably be attributed to nostalgia. Sands of Time is considered the classic in the trilogy, not Warrior Within.

      You're a fucking idiot zoomer trying to revise history.

      Sorry you can't accept the truth you retarded millennial

      >hurr everyone hated it
      >durr everyone loved it
      Actually, I think Ubisoft just managed to do what so many other garbage publishers TRY to do: dumped the franchise's original audience and got a new one. People who loved The Sands of Time hated Warrior Within. People who had no interest in The Sands of Time because it looked "gay" suddenly thought the series was awesome when they noticed Warrior Within had cleavage and cuss words.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >OP doesn't stand alone

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was the style at the time

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it obviously wasn't since no one bought it and it killed the franchise

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Eh, no. Assassin's Creed killed POP.
        Warrior Within led to The Two Thrones. Then the 2008 reboot. Then The Forgotten Sands in 2010.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Pop Kindred Blades looked great
          Too bad poos killed Pop SOT remake, would have loved remakes of the trilogy plus the Kindred Blade version of TT

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Two Thrones never happened!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        WW sold about as much as SOT and was immensly popular

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Two thrones was worse than WW. And by that point the sands trilogy was complete. I hated TT even more because they killed off kaileena

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Doomposters dont play games. When people ACTUALLY gave it a chance they realized it was superior to SoT

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The one that killed pop was Assassins Creed popularity and some backslash from POP2008

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Was the first Assassin's Creed any good anyway? My bootleg copy was crashing after you get the horse and have to leave somewhere which is basically the very beginning.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It was interesting at that time mostly because Altair has a really recognizable design, AC2 was when the ip became REALLY popular since it was a huge jump in quality compared to the first one

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No. It was really repetitive, and the combat was braindead. The series didn't get good until 2.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It was really repetitive, and the combat was braindead
              That's every AC anon. If anything, trying to make the games more varied is what resulted in us getting the RPG shit today. Because apparently the simple formula of stabbing people to death juts doesn't work anymore.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I like the 2008 one. It's fun.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was the best game in the series though. Also, Kaileena > Farah.

        Based anon retconning The Two Thrones out of existence.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nice zoomer revisionism, WW was extremely popular

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The game was so damn popular and successful it even got a fucking PSP port anon
        Two Thrones was the franchise killer, and well, the first Asscreed.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >According to Ubisoft, Prince of Persia: Warrior Within sold 1.9 million units worldwide in its debut month.[71] Warrior Within's PlayStation 2 version received a "Gold" sales award from the Entertainment and Leisure Software Publishers Association (ELSPA),[72] indicating sales of at least 200,000 copies in the United Kingdom.[73]
        2 million in its debut month.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Scenes you couldn't do today

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nier automata

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              bro that's no fair. That's cheating. Nips are cheating in general

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Japanese game, 6 years ago.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          she really didnt warrant this scene with how little she was in the actual game, in an early boss fight prone to soft lock.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >prone to soft lock
            How?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, she was hyped so much and then she just... dies at the very beginning. I barely even remember her boss fight.
            But I do remember the boss fight against Kaileena. Hoooly shit, was that a bitch to fight. I swear something in my copy was bugged, so my parry never worked on her. So I kept losing over and over again. This theme will be stuck in my head forever.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >prone to soft lock
              How?

              im not sure. I recall looking this up and the answer was legitimately buy a new copy. some discs just fucked up here. What i did was copied the disc to ps2 hard drive and somehow that bypassed it. it was weird.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, I also remember this fucking weird but where you can become a sandwraith prematurely if you saved at the wrong time and then you are essentially fucked and need to restart the game.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, I also remember this fucking weird but where you can become a sandwraith prematurely if you saved at the wrong time and then you are essentially fucked and need to restart the game.

                Oh, that may have been exclusive to the PS2 version. I played the PC version and the only thing out of the ordinary was the complete lack of OST and voices, and that was because it was a common thing among pirated copies for some reason at the time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Oh, that may have been exclusive to the PS2 version.
                Nope, the sandwraith thing was definately in the PC version. I got that in my GOG version.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                my copy might have been pirated now that i think about it. my ps2 collection was either or.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >complete lack of OST and voices, and that was because it was a common thing among pirated copies for some reason at the time.
                yeah, bandwidth and disc space were a precious commodity at the time, some people were still sitting on 56K modems. so game "rips" circulated a lot more than full disc dumps, where they had removed as much as they could to lower the file size while still keeping the game playable.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong. Warrior within was easily the best pop. It was decently challenging, the combat was a huge improvement from sands of time, it was edgy and back in the day being edgy was cool, it had one of the best vidya soundtracks of all time, it even had a nice story with good big titty goth waifu.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Kaailena
          >goth
          ???

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks to the internet any girl wearing black is now goth to these tards.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No it didnt, what killed PoP was a mix of Ass Creed becoming popular while doing the same gameplay but better, and the remake being dogshit.

        also Warrior Within is not fun, it has fuckloads of backtracking, sure its cool and the Dahaka chase sections are fun. but after the "ow the edge" treatment, it becomes pretty stale.

        Two Thrones dialed it back a bit and became more like the first one, even going as far as bringing back the vizier and Farah. the Dark prince was a fun alter ego, both in personality and combat. but he should've been fleshed out more, he just leaves without any fanfare near the end of the game, no boss fight or anything as far as i remember. A perfect mix of the first and second game. which only makes sense for the third sequel.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >what killed PoP was a mix of Ass Creed becoming popular while doing the same gameplay but better
          No, Ubisoft ran out of ideas and what was supposed to be PoP Assassins they turned into a new IP. There is no timeline where these two games coexist because they switched focus almost immediatly.

          >also Warrior Within is not fun
          not surprising coming from someone who thinks jumping building to backstab people is the definition of fun

          >it has fuckloads of backtracking
          you always backtracked to different versions of the map in different timelines with puzzles and challenges, not that corridor combat from TT

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Got The Two Thrones after that
        Got Forgotten Sands after that
        Got a MOVIE after that (Gyllenhall wears the WW clothes in it too)
        Got rebooted after that
        Choke on a dick and die.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Got a MOVIE after that (Gyllenhall wears the WW clothes in it too)
          And it actually was a pretty decent movie.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We'll agree to disagree.
            Asspulled some brother that had to be added to Forgotten Sands, like 3 rewinds in the whole movie tops, 0 playful banter like in SoT.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >prince empties the sand tanks on the dagger
              >tries to fill them back up with actual sand
              Only part of that movie I remember.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              For a videogame movie? I'll fucking take it. At least the movie looked like the game and had the story 80% similar to the game.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it obviously wasn't since no one bought it and it killed the franchise

          Don't forget that the 2010s game uses the WW clothes too

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        AC killed the franchise
        The 2008 reboot was meant to increase interest in it but didn't quite work out. The fact forgotten sands was a thing was a surprise to everyone.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Zoomers will never be able to appreciate late 00's edge.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yejibros we're ready for war.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. Edgy music back then was hip and in, rather than sad boy gay music today zoomers listen to.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I remember reading in an interview the director was trying to make something his edgelord son would think is cool.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What the fuck were they smoking that made them think "Yeah the audience will love this shift"?

    I loved it back then as a kid and I still love it now. Eat a dick, OP.

    >Running away from the Dahaka with Godsmack playing the background

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      based and Dahaka pilled

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's so cool his horns create the shape of infinity, very interesting touch of character design

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Having a demon time janitor chase the MC for using the basic gameplay mechanic in the first game was a pretty genius idea.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The game was good. The dark imagery and heavy guitars were used tastefully within the game. The marketing and the cover art made the new style seem more obnoxious than it really was. I think there was also a cultural backlash against edgy shit around this time. Nu-metal fans were now about 18-19 years old, outgrowing it, and "serious" game journos had always hated anything that they perceived as adolescent, because they wanted their medium of specialization to be regarded a proper big boy grownup art form.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A shame though. Nu metal was the last time rock music was actually good, relevant and fun.
      Everything since that has been pop-punk first date girlfriend emo pish.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The game was good. The dark imagery and heavy guitars were used tastefully within the game. The marketing and the cover art made the new style seem more obnoxious than it really was. I think there was also a cultural backlash against edgy shit around this time. Nu-metal fans were now about 18-19 years old, outgrowing it, and "serious" game journos had always hated anything that they perceived as adolescent, because they wanted their medium of specialization to be regarded a proper big boy grownup art form.

        >always liked numetal and metalcore bands in high school
        >always had to larp and pretend that I liked boomer metal not to get harassed
        >still basically do to an extent
        >now bands I listened to back in high school are becoming the boomer-y shit
        I wish I could go back and tell my younger self not to hide his power level as much, and tell some of those other fags to fuck off. Then again, I think I'd just choke my younger self to death instead

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >nu metal
        >good

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          at least it was raw sounding and had an emotional impact
          not this current mall metal where every instrument sound has 10 layers of noise reduction

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Nu metal was the last time rock music was actually good, relevant and fun.
        this may be the shittiest take I've ever seen

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nu metal is too broad of a term since every metal / rock band at the time was labelled as such

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and they all sucked

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        are you high? I cant imagine someone who's into numetal yet wasn't into the death metal fad that followed

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah there was some edgy meme during that time but now you miss it. Funny hiw Jak did the same with Jak 2. I think people were chasing for the edgy audience by now

      And like they said it made sense that ww was darker, since Dahaka has been harassing Prince for years, it was actually nice to see characters actuslly facing consequences for playing with time powers

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hate how Jak went from a fun platformer in the first game to EDGY GTA CLONE for the second. Bleh.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        good example by anon, jak 2 was COMPLETELY inferior to 2 in artstyle, storytelling, just ... RELAXEDNESS and wymsical nature.

        Althoug h2 is technically superior, it felt like they slapped some GTA onto jack... it wasn't a bad game, but the original is VASTLY superior because it is what it is. And 2 tries to be something else and it is not entirely succesful to, not quite able to capture this.

        IT's still objectively a good game and an absolute testament of good coding and production values.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is literally nothing redeeming or interesting in Jak 2. Its like playing a PS1 FPS.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >judging a piece of media that was a product of its time with your retarded current day mindset
    You weren't there. You will never understand.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Except I did play it at the time you fucking retard.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was "thing" at that time and it made sense lore wise. Prince was a teenager who between SoT and WW went to war and was running from immortal beast that wanted to kill him.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would rather replay one of the edgy ones than sands of time to be honest at least they have decent combat

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What? WW was great. It actually made sense the prince got tortured by the Guardian of Time for messing up with the timeline
    It also had better battles and exploration, you didnt even play this game

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Arabian
    Its prince of PERSIA, not price of arabia

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a stereotype of Persia as viewed through Arab eyes, like Arabian Nights (which takes place in Persia). It's why the prince is probably a Sassanid yet everything is strangely Islamic in a pre-Islamic timeframe.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I always thought it was Zoroastrianism

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That was the religion of Persia at the time.
          And still is, once the fundies are deposed.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I doubt it's going to happen anytime soon

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It gets closer every day.
              Marg bar diktator!

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The mid 2000s was when Ubisoft was still making good games, but they were rapidly becoming the soulless corporation we know to this day by 2007

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >metal music starts

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This game had a hand in shaping my music tastes as a kid, still jam to some Godsmack today, good shit.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          For me it was this game and NFS Most Wanted, same kind of mid 2000 nu metal.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hands get sweaty
      Unironically, this game gave me more frights than most horror games I played at the time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dahaka made me shit myself as a kid

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >YTOOB TAHT ROF NOMIC MI YTOOWS YTIGGIWS

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When I was 10 - 11 I remember struggling and beating the game finally. But I remember finding out that it wasn't the true ending and it blew my fucking mind from watching the intro into two thrones. I remember I was so excited I couldn't sleep that night and I replayed the game after watching shitty 140p videos on YouTube that explained how to find the water sword. Warrior Within was such a fucking gem. Truly the peak of u*isoft.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone was chasing an edgy audience back then. Hell remember Shadow the Hedgehog and Dirge of Cerberus, pure edgeshit
    I miss those times where developers wanted to be provocative and shit on journalists over constantly bow their heads

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Primal
      Why?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Primal was when the goth/emo/rock girls were a thing (now they are told to be non binary or some shit)
        It was dark and beautiful at the same time

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >now they are told to be non binary or some shit
          Feels bad.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's because the standard for the girls who want to be special was to go goth emo whatever and that implied
          >no food so they were skinny
          >lot of make up
          And they looked like nice dolls. Nowadays they are told to get fat and look as masculine as possible. Before agressive make up = agressive strong girl

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Nowadays they are told to
            yeah i pull shit out my ass too

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I love Jennifer and Ruby from WETs designs
            I want edgy girls back

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Remember when Lara was going through an egdy phase? It was such an innocent time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wasn't the Angel of Darkness the worst Tomb Raider game?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's a... complex question. Like, on paper it's one of the best, with the strongest story and atmosphere and some interesting mechanics, but in reality the game just falls apart, because it's flat out unfinished. And I mean, KotOR 2 levels of unfinished.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was pretty fucking bad. Just unplayable shit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I bought on the winter Steam sale (£0.69) because I intend to try the new Restoration Project mod at some point. Maybe it will be playable shit now.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh i remember
                Good times

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                to be fair she was always a sociopathic murderer

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The tone of the story and atmosphere wasn't edgy at all. It wanted to be darker but it was really atmospheric and kind of melancholic. I remember when I played it for the first time when I was 14 and I ended up incredibly liking it despite all the flaws because the aesthetic, mood, and core ideas kept drawing me in. It's incredibly sad how much of it was rushed and released incomplete. When you search "Angel Of Darkness" on youtube you will find hundreds of videos about how much content was cut from the game including entire levels, fuck ton of important story cutscenes, Kurtis being a completely different character gameplay-wise with paranormal abilities, almost finished bosses, enemies, weapons, gameplay sections, mechanics, areas, characters, songs, etc, etc. Angel Of Darkness would have been incredible if they gave them at least one more year of development time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, I... respect AoD for what it was trying to do, and similalry to Dragon Age 2, you can feel there is a really good game beneath this whole nonsense trying to get out, but AoD is just not fun to play, even with all that goodwill. The mechanics are either buggy, broken or unfinished and at some point you realize you are playing it despite the gameplay being awful.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          To be honest, I only ever seen the ad in vidya magazines back in the day and was under impression that it's some fairy-tale-like fantasy game.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I have a lot of nostalgia for primal, really soulfull game. Fairy tale like isn't really what I called it, main girl is the gf of a rocker guy, saidguy get kidnapped by a big monsters and she get butchered
            She wakes up in a hospital, as a ghost in front of her corpse, and a gargoyle guy guides her to a paralel world where her bf might be. You then go through 4 differents realms, and take on the form of the demon living there.
            Combat system was really clunky, not really responsive. Cool soundtrack, amazing dynamics between protag and the gargoyle. The disc also had a lot of making off, having that on disc was really cool, not much different than what we now found online but it's just not the same

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I actually can't recall Primal, I guess it's because it was a PS2 exclusive and I was always a PC player. But I miss the 2000 goth girls that were both badass and cute.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh I forgot about Bloodrayne, I loved those too
                Also
                >more red and black
                Based

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I actually can't recall Primal, I guess it's because it was a PS2 exclusive and I was always a PC player. But I miss the 2000 goth girls that were both badass and cute.

              Really good times

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Much better times.
                I actually got disappointed by F.A.K.K 2, I expected it to be more... edgy.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This game's gameplay was terrible (bad combat, and the gargoyle controls were clunky and its animations slow asf) but the atmosphere is fantastic. I love the 3rd world. It was for sure one of the best looking games of its time, specially on consoles

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            filtered. the combat had hidden stats and improved slowly as you played.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I loved ghosthunter but it got killed by re4 similar to how legend of dragoon had the bad luck of competing against ff7

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everyone was chasing an edgy audience back then. Hell remember Shadow the Hedgehog and Dirge of Cerberus, pure edgeshit
        I miss those times where developers wanted to be provocative and shit on journalists over constantly bow their heads

        https://i.imgur.com/GIMyZWq.jpg

        Why did they go from fantastical Arabian fantasy with a goofy lead that was serious when it was important to CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES grimdark?

        What the fuck were they smoking that made them think "Yeah the audience will love this shift"?

        pop tww, primal, ghosthunter and legend of dragoon in the same thread?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Add valkyrie profile and we might have a franchises that deserved to survive thread

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's easy to forget, but some people on Ganker do actually play video games from time to time

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Add valkyrie profile and we might have a franchises that deserved to survive thread

          and maybe pic related
          i miss it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I loved ghosthunter but it got killed by re4 similar to how legend of dragoon had the bad luck of competing against ff7

      Did many anons play Ghosthunter? I rarely see it being mentioned. I really loved that game but I wouldn't consider it edgy at all.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, not really. I seems that I missed out on a lot of interesting games due to being a PC only player.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there's edge, and god of war is just PURE METAL. The whole game is so INCREDIBLY over the top, with the first one being basically the funniest with kratos literally being a sadist, revelling in killing innocentpeople and having sex, spartha style hahaha.

      The whole game is just one big laugh a thon of stupid and the OVER THE TOP epic tracks just make it all the more pleasing. I think the series climaxed in the opening of GOW2 where the colossus fight is just so crazy and insane, even the greec chorus in the background is singing about the fight, it's just one big adrenalin fuelled crazy fight, love it! I really want to replay GOW 2 on pc with perfect resolution one day. I remember it was pretty damn hard on hardest difficulty.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I always wonder what old God of War fans think of the new ones. They basically shit on the style the game was, for better or for worse. I imagine most fans can appreciate callbacks and the kratos as a character, but its hard to even classify these new games as part of the same series even.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I played the original six games 3-5 times over each before Dad of War came out. You're right that they're basically completely different flavors of game with not only different goals but goals that are fundamentally at cross purposes. There are many ways in which the modern titles are actually held back by the mechanical precedent and story beats of the previous games, which makes the ways in which they have managed to handle Kratos well bittersweet rather than satisfying. The action RPG bloat of crafting, open world quest design, and modern Sony fetishization of close-camera dialogue occurring during gameplay actively spits in the simple and graceful combat of the original trilogy, and yet the legacy of the blades of chaos and the ways in which Kratos moves restrict what they want to do with an over-the-shoulder camera and combat based heavily on your companion.

          My feelings for them are complicated. They are good games, but they are not perfect games. I am not angry about their imperfections, but disagree with many fundamental decisions made and the priorities implicit behind those decisions. I nevertheless played and enjoyed them, I just enjoy the original trilogy more.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do you enjoy the PSP games and Ascension?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Speaking with the caveat that I played the portable games on PS3, I found them broadly to be unremarkable but fine. Chains of Olympus is short and pretty unmemorable, but Ghost of Sparta is honestly pretty decent. Ascension looks positively stunning, especially for a PS3 game, but they were definitely running low on ideas at that point so a lot of the focus is on cool setpieces and graphical marvels that aren't great to play but look nice. Phenomenal sense of scale if nothing else, which is honestly I think the single biggest thing the Dad of War games have lost with their obsession with close-in camera shots and a single pan. In a series whose entire ethos was based around the titanic scale of the myths with static cameras often zooming out until Kratos was an all but invisible speck on the screen, none of that bombastic weight or impact is utilized even when they're clearly trying to evoke it. Ragnarok itself feels more like a particularly hairy firefight in Uncharted rather than even something on the scale of a fight with a single demigod in 2 or 3.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The new games are fucking dogshit trash

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They're shit and not canon.
          As far as I'm concerned, Kratos crawled up to the edge of the cliff at the end of 3 and plummeted to his death. The end.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Other than the name of the playable character, the nuGoW games share virtually zero similarities with the OG games. They're also bad, but that's not even the point. They're just fundamentally not GoW, so it's hard to even compare them 1:1.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No they are objectively not 'bad'. Having a distaste for the change of direction does not make them bad.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >No they are objectively not 'bad'.
              >objectively
              Are you stupid?
              >Having a distaste for the change of direction does not make them bad.
              Oh yeah, you are stupid.
              Whether a game is "bad" is purely a matter of opinion, and thus, yes, his distaste for the game does make it bad, in the only way that badness can be measured, i.e., subjectively.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't like x therefore x bad
                I don't think you should be calling anyone stupid, Anon. Please don't reply to me with bait, thanks.

                Okay you pedantic fuck, nothing in the entire world is objectively bad then, but I personally didn't enjoy GoW 2018 so it's bad. The camera really sucks dick, all the enemies are damage sponges and the tacked on RPG mechanics are shit. And that's not even getting into the bad moviegame shit, like slowly carrying things while you walk down a hallway and WATCH CUTSCENE OF BOY THROWING CHAIN DOWN FOR 45 SECONDS TO CLIMB SMALL LEDGE

                Go ahead and give us your review of the new games and explain why they're bad.
                >The camera really sucks dick, all the enemies are damage sponges
                Both can apply to the old games equally. Arty environmental cameras are nice for screenshots but are dogshit for combat when you have to focus on a tiny fraction of it for the actual gameplay. And enemies on higher difficulties (you DO play on higher difficulties right?) are spongey.
                The RPG elements are absolute dogshit though, I don't think anyone disagrees with that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I think games can be objectively "good" and "bad"
                I don't think you should be calling anything bait, Anon. Please don't reply to me with stupidity, thanks.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I literally just gave a synopsis of why I think they're bad, which you then argued ackshually they aren't bad because the old games did it too sometimes.
                >Arty environmental cameras
                You know what the old games DIDN'T need? A fucking onscreen compass to tell you when an enemy is behind you because the camera is shoved so far up Kratos's ass that he takes up half the screen. You literally cannot defend that. It's bad design.
                The damage sponge argument is true for the old games but nobody's going to care when you complain the game's combat is tedious when you're playing on Nightmare Anal Rampage difficulty. Meanwhile in regular GoW 2018 it takes way too long to dispatch a single enemy. This on top of performance reasons is also why there are only ever 3-4 on the screen at a time, another reason why the game feels flaccid and lame.
                And again, the moviegame shit. The writing is so fucking limpwristed and the millennial reddit dwarves make me cringe. It's just not a good game.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Okay you pedantic fuck, nothing in the entire world is objectively bad then, but I personally didn't enjoy GoW 2018 so it's bad. The camera really sucks dick, all the enemies are damage sponges and the tacked on RPG mechanics are shit. And that's not even getting into the bad moviegame shit, like slowly carrying things while you walk down a hallway and WATCH CUTSCENE OF BOY THROWING CHAIN DOWN FOR 45 SECONDS TO CLIMB SMALL LEDGE

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I knew it was objectively fucking SHITE when I had to suffer 11 minutes of walking down a god damn mountain aaaall the way back while listening to retarded fucking writing and holding forward the whole time like a good fucking movie game slave.

              An absolute insult towards the player.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly don’t understand how assassins creed stole PoP audience, for me PoP always had far better combat and a more fun gameplay

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I honestly don’t understand how assassins creed
      PoP trilogy sold a combined 8 million copies and Assassin's Creed 1 did that *at launch*

      OG AC was the Sands of Time devs, btw.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sands of Time sold 14 million copies worldwide.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          go find me the NPD data from 2003. I'll wait.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you retarded? What does combined series sales have to do with the first few months of the first game in the very same series?

            https://www.ign.com/articles/2014/02/03/house-of-dreams-the-ubisoft-montreal-story?page=2
            >2014
            About Sands of Time
            >Ubisoft sold more than 14 million copies.
            About Prince of Persia series sales
            >(Assassin’s Creed) Its 60 million sales more than triple that of Prince of Persia. It has become an industry titan.
            Only SOT sold good.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >What does combined series sales have to do with the first few months of the first game in the very same series?
              you want to compare lifetime sales to year 1 sales to try and prove a point and yet you just wound up blowing your own ass wide open by proving my point for me since 60million > 14 million.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you illiterate?
                >PoP trilogy sold a combined 8 million copies
                >Sands of Time sold 14 million copies worldwide.
                Where in the flying fuck did you imply anything about POP anything in 1 year?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                60 million > 14 million you unusable hole.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >make false claim of POP series combined selling 8 million copies
                >correct the wrong claim, as Sands of Time sold 14 million copies
                >moving some unknown goal post for god knows what reason
                Meds, now. I don't give a flying fuck about AssCreed sales, I care about you being objectively wrong about Prince of Persia sales.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but the whole point thats being made is that the PoP sales not being as high to AC sales is why it died. Your being a child that just has to be right on a moot point.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not that guy but anon I really need you to calm your autism and go look at the beginning of the reply chain again
                >PoP trilogy sold a combined 8 millions
                >no, SoT alone sold 14 million
                No one mentioned first year, neither you nor the anon replying to you
                Then you started autisming about first year, an argument that nobody but you was having
                Yes anon, 60mil is more than 14 mil. But the reply chain you're autisming about was an anon correcting that SoT alone sold 14mil, so PoP trilogy can't have sold only 8mil
                Open the window and breathe in some fresh air, your brain is clearly not getting enough oxygen to think clearly

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but the whole point thats being made is that the PoP sales not being as high to AC sales is why it died. Your being a child that just has to be right on a moot point.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Two Thrones was god tier.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like all 3 and the different tone each had, the added mechanics of the chain in TT was a good addition

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For anyone wondering
    SoT - 2.4 million
    WW- 1.9 million
    The sequel technically sold worse, but sold enough to continue the series. What's funny is how this was the beginning of the brown and bloom era, with all of the life and color sucked of the series and the Prince changed into a completely different character. But people cheered on those changes, because fuck consistency, am I right?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People didn't get WW point. WW was the mc's punishment
      TT got all the colour back but it was an inferior game
      Fans just love to complain too much and internet made that worse

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >TT got all the colour back but it was an inferior game
        TT missed the point of SoT. Farah was made into a worse character and in an attempt to distance itself from WW it severed, any interesting plot point or character from it was cut. The Dark Prince himself, while entertaining, is wasted potential and nothing at all to what WW showed of him. The biggest problem is that SoT was originally meant to be a standalone game. The story was done and over. But since it made money, Ubisoft wanted more. This resulted in Warrior Within being made, but Ubisoft expressed how they wanted a broader audience, which eventually alienated John Mechner and resulted in him leaving Ubisoft for good.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was the 2000's. Nu-metal grimcore edge was the style at the time. I kinda want it back, honestly. Although IMO SoT>WW.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      way too many words, whole joke could have been improve with the first panel having a mute girl, the 3rd panel with just the guy saying' I'm smoldering with generic rage' and the woman thinking in panel 3 'They gave me metal underpants.'

      The whole thing just feels like some fat faglord trying to garner for virtue signalling chubgirl pussy when it's a legitimately stupid thing that he's correct to point out.

      all in all: good potential, very weak execution by failed writing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You just know whoever drew this thought he was being clever. Bikini armor is cool gay, that's why devs do it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean "I smoulder with generic rage" was a good joke on itself.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No idea, but that was amazing. Everybody liked this game.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just realize I own the Trilogy collection on PS3, did they relicense the fucking Godsmack music?

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I remember being hyped as fuck for The Two Thrones. As a kid it seemed cool as fuck to me having a dark side of the prince to wreck enemies with. Trailers also leaned heavily into this being a centerpiece of the game.

    Still disappointed how they implemented that fucking time limit and made you race through the level. Everything the prince suddenly changed into the dark prince I was just thinking 'man, not this shit again'. They took the thing that made me buy it and turned it into something I hated.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dark Prince was based
      They really should remake the third game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When I first heard about this mechanic I thought it was going to be like a Sands of Time version of Devil Trigger. I wanted Two Thrones to be a really fun action game. Some of the things it did were amazing, but I feel like there were too many setpieces for how short it felt.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Still disappointed how they implemented that fucking time limit and made you race through the level
      >Everything the prince suddenly changed into the dark prince I was just thinking 'man, not this shit again'
      I know it's a meme answer but in this case it's unironically "terrible on purpose". You should dread turning into the dark prince.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I spend weeks, WEEKS, trying to unlock that fucking Water Sword, only so I can see the sex scene between the Prince and Kaileena. I was still disappointed.
    I felt the same in TR 3 where I grinded for all the secret and all I got was a crappy cut level instead of naked Lara.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Not posting the full version

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its always the ugly/less endowed women

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They're not ugly though. But they probably don't have curves or big ass/tits

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            As I said, less endowed

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Not posting the full version

          They're not ugly though. But they probably don't have curves or big ass/tits

          the girl on the stand probably looks WAYYYYY better as the girl on the catwalk is just really fat as you can tell from her blobby ass.

          In the rest of the world, thing girls are considered attractive. In the US and africa, fat chicks are OK.

          But murriblurbs will probably think this is 'sexy' because they are also fucking fatlards.

          The girl is just mortified by how disgustingly revealing this cheap whorish outfit looks, sorry.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I thought you were going to post the twirl and not some incel shit

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the twirl

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            got dayum

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I miss fapping to her so much bros

                >Not posting the full version

                >hating on Warrior Within

                begone

                I miss when games catered to the male gaze unironically

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The male gaze is a meme. Hot girls LOVE being watched. Its like complaining "omg women stares at me too much!"

                Only trannies and ugly women say male gaze is a crime (notice how suddenly lesbian gaze doesnt exist) and even the trannies who can afford to operate themselves the very first thing they do is upload pics of their fake tits and tons of make up
                They obviously hate competition

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Its only a meme inso much that the male gaze is considered negative while the female gaze is considered to be something to aspire to, but thats just typical modern culture trying to hate and get rid of anything masculine. Theres nothing wrong as a male wanting to see bountiful women.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If the indie developers weren't much more of a gay than the average AAA developer we could have a real revolution with games with sexy women.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hell they dont even need to be coomer, remember they can be beautiful without autistically covering every skin
                The Forspoken bitch is one of the ugliest designs I have ever seen

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT I ASK

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That game was actually good, and it's hurt by being compared to other PoP. The 1v1 fights are one of the best ones the series has to offer, the magic is fucking SPECTACULAR as magic should be, and the gameplay is ridiculously fun. Flowing from one point to another in this game is some next level fun.

                They kinda messed up with the open structure, because from what I recall 3 of the 4 magics don't require anything but the basic parkour to get, so there is no pacing to getting more power. This could use a bit more structure, but it's still a good entry to the series, much better that Forgotten Sands.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The music carried it pretty hard, solid game but that OST and vibe was enough for me to beat it twice.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well, the male gaze wasn't bad up until females realized that internet allows them to weaponize it, with all that Me Too and shit and the society at large was too slow to stop it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Well, the male gaze wasn't bad
                It's bad for insecure women that get jealous of other women

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This. Those complaining are ALWAYS ugly and flatties, if they had huge boobs, nice face and curves they would spam photos of themselves all day

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This. Those complaining are ALWAYS ugly and flatties,
                And then they hunt for some naive celeb so they can falsely accuse him of rape and swindle him out of that sweet, sweet cash.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's because those celebs aren't smart. If you become famous the very first thing you must do is claim yourself non binary or something.
                I honestly never trust those blizzards AAAAH THAT VIRGIN NERD RAPED ME IN A ROOM I VOLUNTARILY ENTERED 10 YEARS AGO AAAAAH
                Also, ALWAYS record your interactions with other people

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The ugly culture is just destructive. You see ugly girls embracing the nb culture instead of just improving themselves
                I remember this girl who used to be fat in her 13s, glasses brackets and everything, she used to feel like shit
                Went to an Endocrinologist and gave her some pills and special diet, lost TONS og weight, those pills also altered her hormones so she got lucky and her huges became big, her tooth were fixed, and she started using new clothes, use contatcs lenses, new haircuts, experimentimg witj make up.....and woala, she became a gorgeous woman

                You would be surprised how much the nb cult hurts insecure girls who just want to be special the easiest way because stacies make them feel bad, instead of aspiring to become stacies themselves

                And chuds obviously want women to be ugly since they obviously cant ever compete against them, they will always be a monstuosity

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The funny part is that they only show up in like 10-15% of the whole game

              • 2 weeks ago
                Insomniac_doze

                This chick picked the perfect character with such an ass

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's just no way she can wipe properly.
                I bet she stinks

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                imagine not taking a quick bottom shower after you shit....
                I bet (you) stink lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Perfect

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Better times

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >gif
            Good enough, thank you

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >not some incel shit
          Glad to finally meet the roastie ie from the clip.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I loved it when it came out
    I wish we had more games like this especially today

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What the fuck were they smoking that made them think "Yeah the audience will love this shift"?

    >Ganker's average age is so hardcoded to be 17 regardless of what year it is the average Ganker user now has no functional memory of the turn of the century or what pop culture was like back then

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When did the pop-culture drop the goth edge for good? I want to say around 2008-2010, when Twilight killed the goth and Nolan's Batman made everything "realistic".

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        early 2010's probably

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I would pin the general transition around late '00s too, maybe starting around 2007.
        >consolidation of internet and birth of modern social media/Web 2.0
        >hip-hop/R&B and pop replacing rock as the dominant music genre in pop culture

        I don't remember who said it, but it was something along the lines of, "if rock bands just want to grumble and stare at their feet all day, then rappers will be happy to be the new rock stars"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We need a culture shift, ASAP. This current pink gay shit is getting boring.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >We need a culture shift, ASAP.
            Go on then, take over all of academia and the media

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >culture shift

            Man fuck you hipsters, you guys'll jerk off Ryan Gosling and his Drive jacket and synthwave and future funk but then Harry Styles starts doing it and the Weeknd and K-pop girl groups start putting out synthwave/city pop influenced-albums and all of a sudden you're too cool for what's cool and being mad about the polyester garden gnome or whatever retarded stupid buzzword you're trying to push this week because now normal people like it instead of being some niche secret club shit.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >why don't you guys like it when phony corporate gays and plastic bugs start doing a shitty imitation of the things you like
              Gee, I wonder.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was the era of piss filter supremacy. Everything was beige brown and yellow at the time

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >hating on Warrior Within

    begone

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      see

      >According to Ubisoft, Prince of Persia: Warrior Within sold 1.9 million units worldwide in its debut month.[71] Warrior Within's PlayStation 2 version received a "Gold" sales award from the Entertainment and Leisure Software Publishers Association (ELSPA),[72] indicating sales of at least 200,000 copies in the United Kingdom.[73]
      2 million in its debut month.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The scene that made a generation of assmen

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What the fuck were they smoking that made them think "Yeah the audience will love this shift"?
    Were you actually around for the 00s? It was the edgy grimdark era.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The best era

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I remember when they decided to give Bionicle guns.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They always had guns, bro. I remember having the ninja looking red guy with the gear organs and flame themed disk launcher as a kid.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know anything about Bionicles but i remember having that blue & white guy as a birthday gift

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That set went hard ngl.IIRC if you had them all you couldn download a pdf on Legos website that had instructions to combine them all into a mega bionicle

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Man the world REALLY ended in 2012, it's like we are in some kind of hell/farm

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >that attack where the prince literally does capoeira while holding the swords
      Damn Kill Bill really stole some moves from him

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you beat the villain by ignoring him

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unless you are gunning for that good ending.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I was actually thinking of pic related

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I loved that shit

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >to CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
    cause stuff like CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES was popular at the time

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    toggaf a si PO

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hates chronomancy
      >his horns are in the form of a Mobius strip.
      I KNEEL.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zoomers dont understand what its like to have lived in the era when edgy shit like this was cool. Everyone loved WW when it came out because of it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, the normies were making fun of it, and of the era in general, but the kids loved that shit.
      It was a much better era than this plastic, gay one we are currently living in.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Everyone loved WW when it came out because of it.
      Lol no they didn't. Everyone shit on it and made fun of it at the time.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Everyone shit on it
        maybe you gay friends

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Listen zoomie your youtube PoP retrospective may have told you thats the case but I was around at this time and the game was beloved.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who's everyone? Me and my friends loved it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was very popular for the time and the weakest part of SoT was the combat. They went all the way with advertising the combat in this game. What the fuck are you guys talking about?
        PSM was the biggest PlayStation Mag at the time and gave it a 10/10.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I got that game on Christmas and was so hyped to play it. I wasn't disappointed.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        emphasis on

        Listen zoomie your youtube PoP retrospective may have told you thats the case but I was around at this time and the game was beloved.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Listen zoomie your youtube PoP retrospective may have told you thats the case but I was around at this time and the game was beloved.

          I'm not a zoomie. I'm probably older than everyone else in this thread.

          I remember the backlash towards WW like it was yesterday. People were pissed about the sudden swerve into edgelord stuff and to say otherwise is just trying to rewrite history.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Zoomers weren't alive and taking all this in during their childhood in the early 2000s
      So, Gankerasectomy, are we moving the generation a few years forward again? Man, it feels like it was yesterday when everyone said the gen started in 96 or 97.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I miss fapping to her so much bros

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zoomers: omg I had edgy emo buttrock

    Also zoomers: wow this shit slams

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Kaileena dies
    >Prince doesn't give a fuck
    TT was so weird

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I got lost at this part (no reason to timetravel to garden present if you want to get to the throne room) but other than that fucking great game

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't remember it being so "edgy" aside from the music, for me it was comfy and atmospheric, I loved how the game looked

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Exploration and puzzles were good too

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, there was blood, swearing, tiddies (as much as they could get away with anyway) and prince was a ponce.
      Granted, a lot of it first took root in the Sands of Time, so it wasn't that much out of nowhere.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >metal is populr
    >rap is losing popularity every year

    >they still push hiphop in media and vidya
    What gives? Don’t these companies care about making money?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      rap=/=hip hop

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ass. Creed did more damage to it then anything else.
    I think they went to fast on a reboot as well. They could've waited. Still it was a time that Ubisoft actually wanted to make good games.

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't care. The gameplay was still fun. I wish I could play this on my xbox but they didn't make WW backwards compatible.

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Warrior Within is my favorite game in the series.

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    never played the sands of time but i adored warrior within back in the day.
    also it had shahdee ass within the first minutes of the game.
    should go back and play those games and see if they hold up.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sot not so much
      Also
      THE FUCKING ELEVATOR

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The elevator is where boys become men and princes become kings.

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mustve beat this game a dozen times as a kid until I realized there was a true ending.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TT>WW>SoT

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WW or SoT being better is up to the player since they're both pretty good but thinking TT is better than either of them is a fabricated opinion that no real person holds

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Zoomie watches a YT retrospective
    >Reviewers "research" is basically scouring reddit and going on Metacritic which is missing most publications from the time.
    >"Yeah, Warrior Within was very hated at its time!"

    Shit, I watched a video just to see how predictable it was and the first thing the guy complained about was that WW didn't have quips like SoT. Any review on this game today is done by some Marvel-eating slopboy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I thought it was strange of people to blatantly lie with no reason. That explains it, thanks.

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Media starts with an idea that continually gets bogged down and misconstrued by market research and or meta commentary by businessmen who don't understand what they are in charge of

    Many such cases

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Insomniac_doze

    I like it personally, it was edgy sure but it was a great game.

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It makes sense if you consider the story. The prince's life went completely down the shitter after the first game. In SoT he was a sheltered, innocent prince. In WW he had lost nearly everything.

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is now the time for this franchise to be revived?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Under modern Ubisoft?
      Nah let me keep my fond memories.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No. We've seen what happens with nostalgic IPs throughout the years. Just hold onto the nice, childhood/teenage memories.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Haven't they tried to revive it like twice already? And hell, the Sands of Time trilogy was revival itself, too.
      I don't think PoP is getting any more revivals.
      At worst you'll get a monkeys paw and get an open-world action-RPG like nu-AssCreed.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If they'd stick to the original gameplay and tone (either SoT or WW), gladly. But nowadays Ubisoft pales in comparison to what it used to be during that gen. At the time they were a guarantee of quality. Between PoP, Rayman 3 and BG&E they were serious top dogs when it came to AAA action adventures.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We need a decade minimum. If I don't get

      >According to Ubisoft, Prince of Persia: Warrior Within sold 1.9 million units worldwide in its debut month.[71] Warrior Within's PlayStation 2 version received a "Gold" sales award from the Entertainment and Leisure Software Publishers Association (ELSPA),[72] indicating sales of at least 200,000 copies in the United Kingdom.[73]
      2 million in its debut month.

      female ass shot or godsmack level of hype music with it, its already DOA
      neither of which will happen in this current day and age.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only if the development is handled by a completely different team and Ubisoft is only in charge of handing out the budget and nothing else.
      We all know if PoP was revived, they'd just make it "Not Assassins Creed".

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally a different time. Many series went full edge at the time. While it was forced at the time, in retrospect it feels pretty genuine. It's a power fantasy, might as well go hard on it. Plus WW was a really good game despite the tonal shift, and the OST was bangers. Listening to it now thanks to this thread and it bangs.

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I fucking love fantasy settings based on anything that isn't european or tolkien because it always ends up being so much more whimsical and unknown because it hasn't been done to death yet. I wonder why devs just don't do fantasy based on other cultures anymore.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because it's appropriation bro.

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >millennials pretending that everyone loved it universally and only recently people turned on generic mid 00s edgy phase

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who are you quoting?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I liked the edgelord aesthetic back when I was the target audience and I still like it now. Also, Millennials are in their 30s now, the term you're looking for is zoomer.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The oldest zoomers at the time were 7, you fucking retard.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Try 4, zoomies grew up in the 360 / PS3 era.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So you're implying 4 years old filled with nostalgia pretend they were the target audience or something?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair, back in the day everybody was making fun of the edgy phase popculture, not realizing how bad the popculture will get in 10-15 years.
      How do you like your plastic popculture, huh?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Whats wrong with it? Velma is a fantastic show with diverse characters.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ...
          (You)

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ok.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >back in the day everybody was making fun of the edgy phase popcultur
        Most critica did, but these games still sold well if done properly, as people my age were the perfect target audience for edgy games in which you played as a hardass.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      These comics were the typical contrarian always trying to please a woman
      >I totally don't fap to hot girls I'm a nice guy please have sex with me
      Reality is normal women avoid those since nice guys are usually incels and they go for the chads. Hell Xena, Charmed, Buffy etc had a lot of female audience

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, I liked it.

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I remember watching some making of videos for warrior within and wasn't the creative director some kind of like gobsmack fan or something

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh it was the artistic director
      https://archive.org/details/Prince_of_Persia_2_Art_Direction_Movie

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Could you imagine a male that looks like that working in this industry today? How are they all so numale these days?

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what's the lore behind Shahdee and Kaileena? How did they come to be?
    What's the deal with the architecture and fashion sense of the island of time anyway? iirc the time period is 500BC and then you go back a couple more centuries into the past in WW
    sumerian monolithic zigguratpunk or something?
    also
    >red bladedancer > shahdee > elika > kaileena > farah > razia

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Some say that Shahdee was created in the Empress' own image. Like everything else on the island, she exists to serve the Empress of Time. But, unlike the rest of the Sand Creatures, she enjoys a small degree of autonomy, functioning as the Empress' second in command. Nevertheless, the Empress is not the kindest of masters, and Shahdee has suffered years of terrible abuse at her hands. Over time, she has come to hate her maker, secretly devising ways to either escape the island or kill the Empress. She's just waiting for the right opportunity to present itself."
      —Official Booklet description[1]

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the Empress is not the kindest of masters, and Shahdee has suffered years of terrible abuse at her hands
        Hot.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Interesting stuff, thanks

        Kaileena is the Empress of the Sand, she was the one responsible for creating the hourglass from the first game. I don't remember why though or if the game ever explains her motivations besides ensuring the Prince don't fuck with the timeline.

        So I take it Kaileena's a perpetual immortal sorta creature who always existed?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >So I take it Kaileena's a perpetual immortal sorta creature who always existed?
          NTA, but IIRC that was the case. That's why Dahaka was after her, she was a walking time anomaly and Dahaka can't have this.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kaileena is the Empress of the Sand, she was the one responsible for creating the hourglass from the first game. I don't remember why though or if the game ever explains her motivations besides ensuring the Prince don't fuck with the timeline.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think the empress couldn't leave the past time for whatever reason, so need Shadee to operate in the present

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I recently finished Darksiders 2 and i started craving for prince of persia-like wall running, jumping platforming and puzzles. Do they make games like that anymore?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, because people prefer to praise snoy movies or nintendo braindead gameplay these days

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, the best you'll get is nu-Tomb Raider and that shit sucks. Unless there is some indie game that I'm missing.
      story-driven platformers are a thing of the past. Bland sandbox is now the new rage that can't seem to fucking die.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's Darksiders 3... but I don't think it was as good as OG or 2.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw Darksiders 3 fell for le souls meme
      Haha.....
      Also I wanted more Darksiders, not a cheap spin off

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      maybe AC2 and Brotherhood

      I don't think newer games have much parkour shit.
      >tfw remember the flop that Brink was

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tomb Raider LAU trilogy, fucking Marc Ecko's Getting Up, Overgrowth, and Castlevania Lords of Shadow
      Emulate the Wii Forgotten Sands if you haven't already

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Forgotten Sands is so dumb, they fucked up the combat system and the story is nothing but retconned random stuff. I only played to scratch the PoP itch.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Blue Fire and I-Ninja too, heavy on the platforming

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I-Ninja
          yooo

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I-Ninja
          yooo

          >i-ninja
          goddamn, that game was my shit. even weirder knowing that Don Bluth helped with this game

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wait, darksiders 2 is similar to pop games in that regard? i'm really aching for some pop-like platforming

        [...]
        i guess i'll play darksiders 1 and 2 now

        [...]
        >Emulate the Wii Forgotten Sands if you haven't already
        extremely based, that game is top tier and very underrated

        I've had Forgotten Sands in my Steam library for years and haven't played it. Why the Wii version though?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Why the Wii version though
          anon, it's a different game, not the same as the pc/xbox360/ps3 version
          it has some unique mechanics never seen in other pop games (e.g. you have the ability to put on a thing you can hang onto on any part of the wall that you want), its level design is arguably among the best in the series
          there's also some very neat bonus content e.g. a short platforming segment done in the style of the first two pop games
          don't miss out on the game

          There's the 1st Tomb Raider reboot trilogy (Tomb Raider Anniversary, Legend & Underworld) , but only the first game is actually good. the second is mediocre and the third is straight up bad. There's nuRaider as well but they're all terrible.

          can i play TLU before playing the original trilogy?

          I played 2 before 1 and prefer the sequel's faster combat and fluid wall running and jumping. 1 is more like zelda

          i like to play games in a chronological order

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >can i play TLU before playing the original trilogy?
            Yeah there's not continuity or anything. I'd still recommend playing the originals however. The platforming has aged remarkably well.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >can i play TLU before playing the original trilogy?
            Well, it's the conclusion of the TRL-TRA-TRU trilogy, so a lot of context will be gone, but you can figure it all out by yourself, it's not like the game is super story-heavy.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anniversary, Legend and Underworld are a trilogy. Underworld continues Anniversary and legend stories, though those games are short and pretty enjoyable

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wait, darksiders 2 is similar to pop games in that regard? i'm really aching for some pop-like platforming

      >tfw Darksiders 3 fell for le souls meme
      Haha.....
      Also I wanted more Darksiders, not a cheap spin off

      i guess i'll play darksiders 1 and 2 now

      Tomb Raider LAU trilogy, fucking Marc Ecko's Getting Up, Overgrowth, and Castlevania Lords of Shadow
      Emulate the Wii Forgotten Sands if you haven't already

      >Emulate the Wii Forgotten Sands if you haven't already
      extremely based, that game is top tier and very underrated

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I played 2 before 1 and prefer the sequel's faster combat and fluid wall running and jumping. 1 is more like zelda

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's the 1st Tomb Raider reboot trilogy (Tomb Raider Anniversary, Legend & Underworld) , but only the first game is actually good. the second is mediocre and the third is straight up bad. There's nuRaider as well but they're all terrible.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The problem with games like Darksiders, Alice Madness Returns, Soul Reaver, PoP and other action games is that they don't have controversy behind. They are usually multiplatform games so no free marketing from the console war schizos
      Like, you can find 50 threads complaining about nuGOW and zero about Evil West or Gungrave
      These games need to be exclusive to one of the 3 consoles if they want to get attention

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically Jedi Fallen order.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Guys... Imagine this. A soulslike, but with platforming and wallrunning abilities. Holy shit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The only thing it has in common with dark souls is the first four letters of the name. 3 is where they went full moron on that front.

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What the fuck were they smoking that made them think "Yeah the audience will love this shift"?
    The sales

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You try getting chased by the guardian of time for seven years with barely any sleep and keep your composure

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so the PoP story is just a loop?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ubisoft really is dumb, with such timeline you can basically reboot the entire series at any point.
        They could make one using the good parts about WW and improve upon the formula, to this day I haven't seen any game with a combo system that is fun like it without going all the way into DMC or Bayonetta

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          When you wrote reboot, i suddenly remembered that this exist. I don't think it had that fun platforming and puzzles. Looks good though

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            2008 was fine, imo, but could have been a whole lot less casualized.
            Don't know why they switched the Prince's voice for Nolan North, though.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because it's not the same character, baka-kun.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            CARPETS THIS THICK

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              i really liked that line. i think they gave him a unique animation just to show how thick the carpets were

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I really don't understand what is so hard about making a Prince of Persia or why they go to such lengths instead of sticking to a tested formula. This approach worked for so many of Ubisoft games like Far Cry and Assassins Creed who had little variation in gameplay over the years and yet they spawned dozen of them, while with PoP they seem to go crazy every entry in the franchise instead of treating it the same.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Forgotten Sands still happened in the final timeline
        It must've been confusing for the alternate timeline prince who had no experience from SoT.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So was Kindred Blades supposed to take place in the WW bad ending timeline or is that a reference to it being cancelled?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      More or less. It's mostly about Prince trying to do the Legacy of Kain thing and figure out how to fix the mess he caused without Farah dying and causes Dahaka to spawn, which causes the events of WW, which leads to TT and so on.
      Speaking of which, I miss Legacy of Kain.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Speaking of which, I miss Legacy of Kain.
        You will sing a different tune once the new game comes out.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The new game is not going to happen in a million years.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Crystal Dynamics got the rights back and already made a public poll in regards of LoK. Surely there's some shit brewing in there.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think there is much you can do with LoK at this point. Amy Hennig has been cancelled by Neil Druckmann for not being woke enough, 90% of LoK actors are either dead or retired (I think only Simon Templeman is still in business) and there is no point continuing the story from 20 years ago.
              So I assume a soulless reboot that everybody will hate, because that's one nostalgic IP that hasn't been murdered yet.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's like retards forgot about the leaked Dead Sun gameplay that looked like generic adventure game #9131239, then forgot about Nosgoth, then forgot about Blood Omen 2, then forgot Amy Hennig isn't even working on CD.
          They WILL fuck it up, even if it is a piss easy 1:1 remaster, they WILL fuck it up.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes but I always thought by the end of TT he had looped back and corrected the timeline where all the bad shit wont happen again.

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why did they go from fantastical Arabian fantasy with a goofy lead that was serious when it was important to CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES grimdark?
    God of War

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Warrior Within > Sands of Time

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We should get a new Prince game that brings back the shadow prince.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >No Vegeta hair
      SOULLESS

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shocked to see my thread lasted so long but it's nice to have PoP thread occasionally I guess.

    Going to boot up 2008 again after I finish up with Two Thrones.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hell yea

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I also remember playing this at the time and enjoying it a lot played it before Uncharted too so Nolan North wasn't Drake for me yet and still think it was overhated.

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really need to replay the trilogy at some point.
    Last time I've played it... 5 years ago?

  68. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why did they go from fantastical Arabian fantasy with a goofy lead that was serious when it was important to CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES grimdark?
    Grand Theft Auto III was successful.
    VERY successful. And people wanted that pie.
    Tale as old as time.

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Despite obviously being a product of its time, Warrior Within was ridiculously kino. I have a tremendous respect for sequels that are willing to go for a different style and tone for the sequels yet make it work like T2, Aliens, RE4 etc; it keeps things interesting and fresh. Sands of Time was incredible but I'm glad they didn't try to chase that dragon again. This was the textbook grittier, darker middle chapter but the Prince being always chased by the ever oppressive Dahaka justified the shift in tone for me. There's some "ow the edge" 2000's to it all but I'd say it works 95% of the time.

    Two Thrones was also good, but it just didn't leave much of an impact like Sands and Warrior did; both those games felt like they had their own distinct personalities, while TT felt kind of like a compromise.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Despite obviously being a product of its time, Warrior Within was ridiculously kino.
      All of the games in the trilogy were kino. The story and its delivery were pretty much on par with the likes of Legacy of Kain. I think it was the time where Ubisoft still cared.

  70. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that's just how it was at the time. you had to be there.

  71. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What the fuck happened to the SoT remaster?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably one of the 3 cancelled ubisoft games
      Shouldnt have given it to poos for le diversity points

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They specifically mentioned unannounced and PoP wasn't one of them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's still happening, but after the first trailer nobody is hyped for it anymore.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cucked by diversity quotas
      A shame, pop trilogy could look really beautiful

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It got massively negative reviews on the trailer, Ubisoft had some mobile game studio in India do the remaster.
      Now it's in development hell

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It wasnt even mobile studio anon that pajeet studio never made any games but only multiplayer dlc and some shit to just fucking dance lol. What the actual fuck was Ubi thinking by giving them remake of one of their most beloved IP.

  72. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When I was young playing the sand of times for the first time, I would imagine my self playing the game in front of thousands of people while I had commentators talk about me playing the game, every time I failed or succeeded. Now come a few years later the current gaming world is being dominated by snot noses streamers who bitch and moan about every game they play till they get devs to bend the kneee. Now I wish I went back in time and stop my self from ever having that thought. I manifested streamers into existence at that moment.

  73. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >scandily-clad female characters
      What.
      Dude, that shit started with SoT. Heavy metal started with Sot, Brooding started with SoT. WW just pushed it towards a logical conclusion.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Dude, that shit started with SoT.
        Look up the Harem enemy and the Harem Guard from SoT

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't have to. I remember the Harem level pretty well. And the Prison level as well, with that bopping pseudo-metal sountrack.

  74. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm glad this never came out

  75. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i don't know. WW ruined the series. it had poor level and gameplay. It was a technical nightmare. Story sucked too.

  76. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Banging

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably the best combat theme in the game. Too bad at this point you are swarmed with the most obnoxious enemies.

  77. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Warrior Within is a piece of art and the best game in the entire series with an incredible atmosphere and style. It takes me back to amazing times when creators had actual creative freedom to create what they wanted and put all their heart and soul into it instead of being forced to be slaves to all the corporate higher-ups.

  78. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pure edge kino.

  79. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >audience will love this shift

    And that's literally what happened, retard

  80. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This board unironically loved Bomberman Act Zero and Bionic Commando 2009.

  81. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So, where did the Dark Prince in TT come from? IIRC this was supposed to be his WW persona made manifest, but even in WW he wasn't THIS edgy. Or is it "his WW persona on the sand crack"?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I thought that was just the Prince fighting off the "corrupted by sands" shit that affects all the normies who get turned into monsters.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >is it "his WW persona on the sand crack"?
      Yes, the corruption is exacerbating his already existing negative traits.

  82. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >No option to save Shahdee and get alt ending with her
    You had one job Ubisoft

  83. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now that Ubisoft isn't churning out a new Assassins Creed game every year, maybe they can make a new Prince of Persia?
    They could even make it in the AC universe, it would fit nicely.
    I'd prefer if it wasn't open world, more a straight forward jumping puzzler like the original games.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, they'll gonna turn it into a soulless, diverse, open world AC reskin. Give it a few years, so that the cancerous trends die down.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pop is not like AC, it needs to have actual level design, more platform, puzzles, and better action.
      Pop games are unironically from a ps2 era

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not even sure if they will survive long enough to make it.
      What games did they released this year? The Mario game and Roller Champions?

  84. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    9/11 and the war in the middle east fucked the whole world over, and we had to suffer with a decade of edginess.

  85. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    unpopular opinion: two thrones is best in series. best platforming, best combat plus some stealth, best boss fights.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like all of them

  86. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Yuri Lowenthal voices goofy Prince
    >Robin Atkin Downes voices edgy Prince
    Why did they do this?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yuri had enough edgelords on his plate with Sasuke.

  87. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The artwork looked good but Farah is censored.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can't dare to imagine them remaking WW

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Literally sims tier.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's probably all those women in the studio ever seen.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I am almost sure that they have removed the sex scene as well.
        Also, for some reason, they decided to switch those awesome prerendered cutscenes into the in-game cutscenes and ho, boy do they look like utter shit.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Seriously garden gnomes and trannies need to fuck off

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can't dare to imagine them remaking WW

      Pushing for the literal diversity team, mostly Indian girls even, sent out this supposed remake to development hell, remember that the latest news on this project is that Ubisoft restructured the developers team and has delayed the game to an indefinite date.

      That was before the most recent news that Ubisoft as a whole is facing major downturns, who knows if this remake won’t be actually cancelled any day now.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ubisoft restructured the developers team
        In other words, Ubisoft kicked the pajeets out.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We are seeing the consequences of diversity hiring. Even Neil Druckmann is begging elden ring fans since he is losing part of his team and people are getting tired or blackrock shit.
        You get money from your holocaustale, shut the fuck up already, life has been fucking shit

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm a spanishcuck so I know how these parasites will end like gipsies, aka past family smart, sons and so on too degenerated and spoiled brats to achieve shit. We are seeing Druckman's face knowing he is talentless and he is there for being a garden gnome

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Pushing for the literal diversity team, mostly Indian
        It was a mobile studio in India

  88. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >some rich sand moron prince has the poster from PoP2 enshrined somewhere in his mansion
    imagine being a sand moron with virtually no culture other than fighting over which imaginary friend you think is real with other sand morons lmfao

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      still more culture than amerimutts

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        who said anything about america, other than you?

  89. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What the fuck were they smoking that made them think "Yeah the audience will love this shift"?
    They were right

  90. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean I still like Ubisoft

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You might want to see a doctor. As soon as possible.

  91. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it was kino*

    *i havent played it in 15 years

  92. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nu Metal was insanely popular in the early aughts. I swear to God, Warrior Within was has a fucking Godsmack track in it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Warrior Within was has a fucking Godsmack track in it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You could have told me that Bodies by Drowning Pool was in the game and I would have believed you.

  93. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fantastical Arabian fantasy
    have a nice day. It is PERSIAN not Arabian.
    Also, Warrior Within is the best PoP game.
    If you don't like the OST, have some authentic Persian music:

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've never played Two Thrones because they retconned the fuck out of Warrior Within. Imagine not having respect for the peak of your franchise.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Kindred blades
        what could've been

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In the Sands of Time the Prince of Persia is set within India and Arabia. Additionally, you should know that people will conflate Middle-Eastern aesthetic and designs with Arabian culture, especially when they use Arabian themes since the first DOS game.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and Arabia.
        You are retarded and a liar.

  94. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Arabian

  95. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Dahaka wants to kill the prince for messing with the timeline
    >if Dahaka killed him before the empress fight, sands would never be created, causing a time paradox
    >for some reason prince thinks stopping the creation of the sands of time would make him free from Dahaka (and it works)
    >Dahaka kills either the prince or the sand wraith and lets the other one go
    >the sand wraith dies the first time around, but next time it's the prince
    I know it's a time travel story so confusing logic is expected but still.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think in that ending, the Prince created an infinite loop where the Dhaka kills one version of him forever.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are either 2 or 3 different Dahaka's on the Island of Time during the game. Because there are ultimately 3 princes.

      I think in that ending, the Prince created an infinite loop where the Dhaka kills one version of him forever.

      Pretty fucked up

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think its more about fate, then time travel.
      Everythings pre-destined; except when you use the sands of time to change your fate.

      If you dont kill kaleena, someone else would. Since the sands of time existed in the future, the dahaka can be sure that it's pre-destined and he doesnt need to worry about it.

      But it kind of implies, that the dahaka has nothing else to do then kill an infinte number of princes over and over again.

      Its doesnt make that much sense...
      But it was GRIMDARK and COOL.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I miss Chinese Batman's wild adventures so much it's unreal

  96. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the sands of time is a timeless masterpiece almost on par with disney like magic. The sequels are utterly forgettable and uninteresting both visually, storywise, the whole look and feel is completely inferior and feels like they went from superior storytelling with a wymsical tale which is narratively CORRECT, and turned full LINKING PARK EMOOO

    I never cared for any of the combat mecahncis because games like that neverh ave any meaningful combat to begin with.

    It's like kingdoms of amalure, its' fun, visually pleasing, ti's FINE.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shut up you underaged moron. The first game was fucking lame, short, tedious, and boring as fuck. Warrior Within had way better gameplay, puzzles, exploration, level design, enemies, combat system, incredible music, way more interesting art style that fitted a darker aesthetic, more mature story that was about Prince facing the consequences of his actions instead of being a fantasy Disney romcom, and amazing atmosphere.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Buzzwords the argument.

  97. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What about the pre SOT games?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      first 'mocap' game ever

      a timepiece in its own right, and definitely pushed gaming forward. as one of thse iconic games of years gone.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No that would be Karateka (same creator)

  98. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shahdee is a miracle of the universe

  99. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are the gog versions of this trilogy good? Do they work with modern controllers (i.e. xbone or series x) out of box? Sands of Time was one of my favorite and most replayed games on my PS2 and I never played either of the sequels.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  100. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Still haven't finished Sands of Time

    I bought the trilogy on Steam, was planning on playing through it all, I started Sands of Time, but I'm only like halfway through it, I gotta go back and finish it at some point. I have so many fucking games in my backlog that I need to finish, it's insane, some I barely started/touched.

  101. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I fucking love this shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  102. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This thread makes me wanna replay the games, but god I dont wanna fucking deal with UPlay.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      RPCS3 anon

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're on Steam and don't require Uplay.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Really? Cause I remember buying forgotten sands way back in the day and being completely unable to even open the game BECAUSE of Uplay.
        are the original 3 different?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The original three and 08, yes, but I can't speak for Forgotten Sands.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are on steam and gog

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The PC ports are shit. Just emulate

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        PC ports are definitive versions at 4K 60FPS.

        This thread makes me wanna replay the games, but god I dont wanna fucking deal with UPlay.

        Pirate the GoG versions and install the fix, low IQ trash.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only Forgotten Sands uses Uplay, the others don't because they came out before then

  103. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Any recommended order? I want to try out the series

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1 2 3 4 5 anon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SoT-WW-TT

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Release order, really. Sands of time, Warrior within and then Two thrones. 08 is an optional playing choice

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Forgotten Sands was overhated. PoP 2008 was cool.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Skip the first

  104. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pop 2008 is a legit masterpiece on the same level as the other 3 and im tired of pretending its not.

  105. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I only like the original 3 Turban prince games, ever since Ubisoft got their hands on it, it just became unchallenging and boring

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The ubisoft games were all made by the turban prince creator, so they have his blessing

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I know, still think he just sold out

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          then he wouldve just sold the ip to them in the first place

  106. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was such a bizarre shift for the franchise.
    It's not just the edgier tone, it's also the fact that it feels like a complete non-sequitur in every regard. It's like it starts in medias res, except certain things are simply never explained.

  107. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think the story of The Sands of Time is better than Warrior Within, but the gameplay in WW is better than in SoT.
    Also, anyone else played WW first and then TSoT? Didn't know that the sequel was actually a sequel back then, kek.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Grumpy Persian guy and a boring prostitute are claiming a tower for 5 hours
      truly amazing story

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >doesnt like listening to Yuri Lowenthal talk about keeping women in line
        To each his own

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you activate all traps in the palace yourself
        That was cool.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well, I played as a kid ten years ago, and I think it was okey.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I played them as a kid ten years ago*
          Sorry for broken english.

  108. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Any guide on how to get the PS3 DLC for PoP 2008? I know that you have to somehow integrate it through multimann on your PS3 or some shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think you are honestly better off watching it on youtube.

  109. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >impaling by spikes is le goofi funni
    it was always grimdark retard

  110. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WW and everything past it is cringe as fuck.

  111. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no fun allowed

  112. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish we still got edgekino like WW again.

  113. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WW and everything past it is cringe as fuck

  114. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This game is basically what everyone wanted Strangers of paradise to be

  115. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i like TTT

  116. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Godsmack is the shit, you're a low test beta cuck pussy. If you had 1/4 of my testosterone you'd be fucking like a beast all night long.

  117. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hope that the next asscreed do some justice

  118. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the small children who grew up in the era of grimdark brown 'n' bloom shit are now posting their shitty opinions on Ganker
    Oh dear

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ok grandpa

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Afraid of dying old man?

  119. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do these games play well on PC? I vaguely remember trying to play SoT on steam a while back and something was fucked up about it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. SoT has really some fucking annoying camera behaviour the original console versions did too but not as bad particularly in fights but otherwise the GOG versions which I plowed through are fine.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      playable but all three have a laundry list of bullshit to fix, check pcgamingwiki

  120. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Best PoP. Acquire taste. Oh wait, sorry, I didn't know it's terminal. Get your meds. They're not much but it helps.

  121. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Not liking the most based entry
    IMAGINE just IMAGINE actually loving one with its "Oh stab the enemy on the floor or it'll get back up!"

  122. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Early to mid 00s saw a heavy edge market. It sort of ended in the late 00s and early 10s.

  123. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >hating on THE WARRIOR WITHIN of all of things
    Just nuke this place already, I hate it so much but I can't stop from visiting Ganker daily

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