why'd he do it?

why'd he do it?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its the same person retard lol

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they weren't always the same person retard

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        started as same then split and rejoined

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >english translation is the real lore
        no tard

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >lore was written by GRRM, an Englishman
          my moron?????

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If they were ever separate people, we have no timeline of when it happened specifically. The earliest mention of radagon is the war between the golden order and raya lucaria. Then they all made up, and radagon and rennala had 3 demigod children, meaning radagon must have been a god at that point.

        I personally am not convinced of the separate person theory, but it's all pretty unclear. I can't claim otherwise for certain

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they werent separate , and given that ancient dragon guys lore I assume the elden beast was always radagon and marika and possibly even created all the humans

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Then they all made up, and radagon and rennala had 3 demigod children, meaning radagon must have been a god at that point.
          I think they retroactively are given the demigod title after Radagon & Marika's marriage. Demigod doesn't necessarily mean half god, it can also mean a human who is raised to a god-like status, and I'd imagine you would qualify for that if your dad marries god.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Enea says the demigods are all Marika's direct offspring. I swear none of you people actually played the game

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Then they all made up, and radagon and rennala had 3 demigod children, meaning radagon must have been a god at that point.
              I think they retroactively are given the demigod title after Radagon & Marika's marriage. Demigod doesn't necessarily mean half god, it can also mean a human who is raised to a god-like status, and I'd imagine you would qualify for that if your dad marries god.

              u guys are still thinking too short term, and missing out the fact that dragonlord is waiting outside of time for elden beast to send him a text, the elden ring/ beast is marika/radagon or at least made them, and existed on the lands between before humans

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Enea is a continuity error that forgets that people don't know Radagon is Marika.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The intro cutscene also says the demigods are all Marika's children. It's not a continuity error, it's supposed to be a reveal that's right in front of your face but that most people gloss over because they don't have context for it and it doesn't seem important at the time

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Technically it says all Marika's children are demigods, not that all demigods are Marika's children

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Enea says they're all Marika's direct offspring

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The fact that they were the same person was a secret though, hence the whole autistic sidequest with the statue.
              I'm not even saying that Radagon and Marika weren't the same person at the time, just that the average citizen would not know it and that Ranni/Radahn wouldn't be called demigods in-universe until the marriage.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's literally stated in the game that they were raised to demigod status when radagon married Marika.
              And it's because Radagon BECAME Marika.
              Also Marika herself wasn't always a god.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and this matters why

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're mad other people "didn't play the game" while being a speedreader. Retard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm mad? I think it's hilarious a smelly virgin like you is spamming about the worst fromsoft lore ever created

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's interesting and you're a miserable contrarian cunt

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                shit eating retards like you should have been aborted

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You should have a nice day to spare yourself another day of being a joyless piece of shit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                cope chud lorefag
                you will always be pathetic

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                have a nice day worthless gay you add nothing to the world

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                cope chud lorefag

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                have a nice day worthless gay

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                cope chud lorefag

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I think they retroactively are given the demigod title after Radagon & Marika's marriage.
            Ranni and Radahn are both incredibly fucking powerful. We don't know how strong Rykard was before he fed himself to the god devouring serpent, but we do know that Ranni thought that he was capable of going head to head with Maliketh as long as he had a way to stave off destined death. They were not human.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The earliest mention is the war with the Giants where he was cursed with Red hair. I believe this war happened first as the First Church of Marika is found there in the Mountaintops. The Flame was the fledgling tree's biggest threat, then the Dragons, then Limgrave, THEN Radagon ascends from champion to Elden Lord with the conquest of Caria.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know why people believe this. Like, what would stop Marika from just becoming Radagon for a bit, not like anyone would know she was gone.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i'm pretty sure a lot of people in leyndell would notice if the queen went missing for a few months

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Morgott is famous for being the Veiled King, as almost nobody has ever met him directly.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yeah but that was after shit hit the fan

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Still, the ruling Monarch being unapproachable for most people and only ruling through proxies is extremely common in fiction and I think it wasn't unheard of in history.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hewg was terrified of Marika so it's logical to assume she wasn't the kindest, most present ruler

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it can split doesnt mean its not still the same thing, did you miss the part where both are an ayylmao ? same ayyylmao that made placidusax elden lord before there was even humans im assuming? you are thinking too small in terms of "oh its marika and its radagon, perfectly normal real humans"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't know why people believe this
          There is a line from a dialogue in which Marika is talking to Radagon and she say "You have yet to become a god, you have yet to become me".
          A lot of people took that as meaning that they became one later, but I heard that the original Japanese dialogue is more akin to her talking to a split personality and telling him that he's not the main personality, or something like that.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because Radagon is a wildly different personality who acts counter to Marika and even continues to take over to defend the Elden Beast after Marika has been imprisoned. It makes more sense that Radagon was either an entirely different person who fused with Marika, or was some kind of counter personality who she forcibly split off from and then recombined with later, than it is for both of them to have always occupied the same body and have done everything they did. Marika couldn't just disappear for the years it would take for Radagon to lead the war against Raya Lucaria, end it, and have several children with Rennala

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not that anon and yeah, I don't think they're the same literal person. I think it's more likely Radagon was some alternate personality split off from her or at least some sort of being willed by the Greater Will to counteract Marika. Also the game has a lot of conjoined imagery and twinned opposites so it's possible they could've been weird siblings too.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Marika couldn't just disappear for the years it would take for Radagon to lead the war against Raya Lucaria,
            Why not

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I suppose it could have happened, we just never hear about it, but we also hear about so little involving Marika that you can really only speculate

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm just saying it's certainly not the only example of a major ruler being out of sight for years. Few to anyone had actually seen Morgott for his entire reign as king of Leyendell, and Radagon spent the entirety of his tenure as elden lord sealed in the erdtree. It doesn't seem unreasonable that Marika couldn't have sequestered herself away and then snuck out the back door as radagon. Especially if a margit-esque doppelganger was left behind.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Marika is the original and then created Radagon. Everyone wondered who the fuck Radagon was and where he came from as well.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This. A lot of character are confused over Radagon's existence and why he's Marka's favorite despite literally coming out of nowhere. Even if he was a separate person from Marika, it's still heavily implied that he was closely tied to her from the very beginning.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This. A lot of character are confused over Radagon's existence and why he's Marka's favorite despite literally coming out of nowhere. Even if he was a separate person from Marika, it's still heavily implied that he was closely tied to her from the very beginning.

          So Marika is a futa?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            haha that would be so weird

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes they were. Why do you think Radagon's kids with Renalla are demigods?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is literally nothing in the game to suggest they were ever two seperate people. The game only ever hammers away saying they are the same person

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Radagon was married to Rennala in Liurnia at the same time as Marika was married to Godfrey in Leyndell, they were able to be in two different places at the same time. I don't think that makes them separate people but maybe it's a Doctor Manhattan sort of thing where she can project copies of herself

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but maybe it's a Doctor Manhattan sort of thing where she can project copies of herself
            they can literally do that. Both Godfrey AND Morgott do it

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bro, that's obviously what's going on. Marika split part of her consciousness into a separate entity while she still ruled in Lydnell. Why she originally did it is up to player interpretation (I believe she wanted to have one side of her free while the other completely dedicates herself to the greater will) but eventually it all came crashing down when Godwyn was killed. And I do think it's irony that her half that was dedicated to the greater will is the one that betrayed it, but that's all my conjecture. The only thing that is definitely set in stone is that they existed at the same time and are still part of the same being, just split.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          see

          >In Marika's own words. O Radagon, leal hound of the Golden Order. Thou'rt yet to become me. Thou'rt yet to become a god. Let us be shattered, both. Mine other self.

          What did she mean by this?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're confusing things up retard. They were ALWAYS the same body, but two different people. You make it sound like they could just split apart and go their separate ways, then rejoin. You got it fucking confused. Split doesn't mean apart, it means separate. I can split an apple but it's still the same apple, it isn't separate apples.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      selfcest is hot ngl

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Self fugg

      Spoilers faggio

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Going into an Elden Ring Thread on Ganker without expecting spoilers

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oui

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >thinking Fromsoft games have a plot beyond a vage excuse that wouldn't suffice even for a porn movie script
        The gameplay is ok, but the community for these games is so retarded, man.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're like God and Jesus Christ
      The same, but different

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Self fugg

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >hurrrr my husband left me I’m le insane now
    Lazy writing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >my husband who was actually an ayylmao chud who gave me weird magic egg

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She didn’t know ginger boy was Marika and the egg would’ve had no side effects on her since she had the great rune of the unborn, which is how we’re able to get reborn without becoming full retards

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that rune is other trannies rune though, since it matches milenias

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so how come all her retard children turn out wrong if she has the rune needed to do it properly?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Only works on herself

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Elden ring is more like
      >something bad happened long ago
      >everyone becomes insane and wants to kill the player

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >long ago

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you just described the entire dark souls trilogy too

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          At least Bloodborne and Dark Souls have an actual excuse for everyone being mad and attacking you

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So does Elden Ring

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It doesn't
              It never really explains why the ordinary enemies are fucked up hollows
              Plenty of people still have their sanity and the distinction between them and your average footsoldier is never made apparent
              There's no actual widespread curse in play making people into hyper aggressive insane beef jerky men as in Dark Souls, they just are

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It never really explains why the ordinary enemies are fucked up hollows
                Because they're immortal and they've been trapped in neverending wars for centuries unable to ever truly die

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Plenty of people still have their sanity and the distinction between them and your average footsoldier is never made apparent
                Nearly all of them are tarnished like you, they've been outside the Lands Between while shit hit the fan. There are only a handful of exceptions like Kenneth Haight and Seluvis

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It doesn't
              It never really explains why the ordinary enemies are fucked up hollows
              Plenty of people still have their sanity and the distinction between them and your average footsoldier is never made apparent
              There's no actual widespread curse in play making people into hyper aggressive insane beef jerky men as in Dark Souls, they just are

              I mean, canonically, Tarnished are basically like a black cat walking under a ladder while breaking a mirror. They're a tremendously bad omen and so generally you're attacked because everyone in the world hates you and wants you to leave ASAP.

              She's top wife material, imagine going with that buxom whore who goes off her rocker and destroys the world and its age of serene stability under the erdtree and golden order. What for? What the fuck made her decide to shatter the ring like that? What did she even mean by this?

              >What the fuck made her decide to shatter the ring like that?
              snapping the ROD in half basically made the GO shit the bed and panic. basically the GO was operating at the behest of the Erdtree, an alien parasite that feeds off of death.
              The reason the GO hates TTLiD is not because it "upsets the order" but because they represent a threat to the erdtrees because their "food source" is wandering around aboveground rather than being collected by warrior jars who are then smashed by erdtree avatars to feed the nascent erdtrees
              Basically Marika was tired of doing the GO's bidding and panicked after Ranni TK'd and DC'd Godwin and smashed the ring

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Apparently fromsoft is no longer able to make games that aren't dark souls. There is zero reason for ER world to look like zombie apocalypse populated with hollow peasants and hollow soldiers who all lost their minds, but they don't make anything else.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            At least Bloodborne and Dark Souls have an actual excuse for everyone being mad and attacking you

            you just described the entire dark souls trilogy too

            Elden ring is more like
            >something bad happened long ago
            >everyone becomes insane and wants to kill the player

            >So the game can happen...

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Those who live in death RIGHT FUCKING THERE

            The only reason people claim it's not that is because From Software shit the bed when it came to defining enemies as undead for the aux bonus.
            Only Skeletons, Death bird variation and spiritcaller snails count as undead. This is a game with enemies like Putrid Corpses, Wraiths and multiple ghosts, none of which count as undead.

            So the claim that the "Hollow" soldiers aren't a result of Living in Death being wrong based on aux bonuses can't be taken as fact, because the would be claiming the zombies aren't a result of deathblight.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >From Software shit the bed when it came to defining enemies as undead
              Because most of them aren't undead dumbass, they're functionally immortal because the literal concept of death is sealed away and they've been "dying" and being resurrected over and over in endless wars for centuries

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                [...]
                They're not resurrected, they're literally just undying and become walking mummies over time. Marika perverted the natural lifecycle the GW created when it planted the Crucible/Erdtree. All things are meant to life and die, and break and bend in old age.
                >Abandoning their birthplace after the Shattering, these undead beings are the pitiful product of unending life. They are most commonly found struggling to maintain balance while roaming the fields of The Lands Between. Surely they were in search of something once - but whatever it was has long been forgotten.

                >No one could die for hundreds and hundreds of years
                >This is never brought up in the lore beyond justifying why the raisin men are hostile to you
                >Also just ignore the fact that you can kill the demigods
                They really weren't even fucking trying

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don't kill most of the demigods, the only ones that are confirmed dead are Radahn, Godrick, and Morgott, and Morgott only dies after you burn the erdtree and release the rune of death

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I thought zombies were just what happens when all of those guys that can't die start putrefying or rotting.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                elden ring is copy pasted assets, nothing makes sense

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >From Software shit the bed when it came to defining enemies as undead
                Because most of them aren't undead dumbass, they're functionally immortal because the literal concept of death is sealed away and they've been "dying" and being resurrected over and over in endless wars for centuries

                Unironically what is the difference between the skeletons and the zombies? What is the Deathblight then?
                Just admit that From basically took a billion year old code regarding the skeletons from prior games and lazily exported it, then assigned the aux to like two other things before forgetting about it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Deathblight comes from Godwyn's half-dead body infecting the erdtree's roots, preventing it from bringing people back to life properly. There are multiple avenues for death and rebirth in the game's world and all of them are fucked up which is why there are several different types of undeath
                >Just admit that nerp nerp nerp
                Shut up retard

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >There are several types of undeath
                There is no lore on that at all, this sounds like a cope to explain why litany of a proper death doesn't do bonus damage to Putrid Corpse.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >There is no lore on that at all
                Death was governed by the deathbirds and mariners before the age of the erdtree came along and put them out of a job, which is why they're kind of just aimlessly wandering around the world surrounded by undead skeletons overflowing out of the ground. The erdtree supplanted the previous rules of death by absorbing and "recycling" people's souls so they could be reborn, but now the erdtree is fucked up too from Godwyn's corpse poisoning it at the roots, and Marika sealed away the literal metaphysical concept of death itself fucking the system up even further. Every system by which things are supposed to be able to die is broken, which is why Melina wants you to burn the erdtree and then sends you to Farum Azula to release the rune of death
                >this sounds like a cope
                Shut up retard

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and then sends you to Farum Azula to release the rune of death
                Nah.
                She sends us there because it was a separate cut content ending once but then they merged it into one endgame and hoped you wouldn't notice, which is why we are randomly teleported there. They also cut a single line from Rune of Death cutscene talking about Erdtree burning in "black flame".
                In 1.0. she has a dialogue where she tells you she just wants you to burn the barbs blocking the ENTRANCE to the Erdtree as opposed to the entire tree in current game.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                She directly tells you "this world is in dire need of death indiscriminate," sets the magic tree that's keeping people immortal on fire, and then teleports you to the place where the physical embodiment of the concept of death is locked away so you can set it loose again. This isn't hard to parse, anon

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                knowing fromsoft that's probably more a coincidence than any actual attempt at a narrative

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You might be an idiot

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you are an idiot if you take fromsoft lore seriously

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no you CAN'T put A B and C together you HAVE to have a goldfish brain like me

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sorry I'm not retarded or schizophrenic so I don't pretend like fromsoft lore makes sense

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >here's the very clear through line that makes perfect sense
                >"uhhhh it's just a coincidence because I've decided fromsoft can't write anything coherent even when it makes me look like an illiterate retard"

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the lore is very clear if the walls whisper to you
                yeah I'm not about that

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >mash through all character dialogue, skip all cutscenes, and don't read any loredumps in item descriptions
                >"wtf this game has no story who even are these people"

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >implying there's meaningful character dialogue
                the walls whispering "lore" to you isn't the game having lore

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ummm it's all stupid anyway so I don't even need to pay attention :^)
                It's not the game's fault you're an illiterate baboon

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This. So much this. How can i know story in game without 8 hour long cutscenes

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                two cryptic sentences is not a story
                fromsoft "lore" is a joke

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ZANZIBART

                FORGIVE ME

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                twitter meme

                two cryptic sentences is not a story
                fromsoft "lore" is a joke

                twitter opinion

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I guess people on twitter are more intelligent than Ganker lore trannies

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm literally, not figurately, retarded
                You could have just said so, anon

                I'll give you an example of shitty, retarded lore and good lore from Elden Ring:
                Good lore that requires work and inference:
                >what the fuck are the warrior jars
                >why are the warrior jars full of dead people
                >why are there broken warrior jars all over the place near the erdtrees
                >why does every erdtree have an avatar
                >oh shit, the warrior jars collect dead people then go get smashed to feed the erdtree because it's a literal eldritch parasite that feeds off of peoples souls and energy, hence the "return to the roots" and why the GO is so pissed about the existence of TTLiD
                Shitty, retarded lore:
                >use retarded emote near a statue, literally has to be explained via tooltip
                >Marika is Radagon
                >why does this matter?
                >well, you see, the golden order looks for people who can be split into two different people... because uhhhh it just does. meanwhile because we split this person into two people they married each other but the male one fucked another person but then uhhhhh he went back and now he's the same person again but they're actually different
                >who gives a fuck, it's actually totally irrelevant

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >dipshit who gets his "lore" from Vaati videos thinks he gets to decide what's good and bad
                Go the fuck away holy shit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Vaati
                The amount of outright lies and bullshit this gay peddles and people believe is ridiculous.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's the reason so many people still parrot the "erdtree is le alien parasite" garbage

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Erdtree itself is not.
                But it glows gold because of the alien that is Elden Beast.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can't stand that plagiarizing gay, with his fake english accent.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>why does this matter?
                Because Goldmask is looking for the answer and it helps him have an epiphany that finishes his quest

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >epiphany that finishes his quest
                and that epiphany's name? Albert Einstein
                Yeah, the key to the secret goldmask ending is literally goldmask saying "lmao just stop giving a fuck" and removing ambition from the world

                >dipshit who gets his "lore" from Vaati videos thinks he gets to decide what's good and bad
                Go the fuck away holy shit

                your gay

                Fanboys cope about how the game is totally not horrendously unfinished because they can written ten paragraphs of 99% made-up horseshit to explain all the holes in the plot, but the fact remains that the most popular ending route remains Ranni's, which is coincidentally the only one that seems to involve characters with narrative and shit, and rave all about Radhan, whose lore is all completely explicit and most of which is presented in one of those straightforward cutscenes with narration they claim the game is higher-brow for eschewing.

                The reason Ranni has a bunch of dialogue and shit and you'd be forgiven for forgetting Melina exists despite having the obvious closed eye symmetry that's never explained is simple: they cut content like motherfuckers. Same reason the gate to Mohg's palace was in Milenia's backyard and that after you kill Mohg supposedly to get to Miquella, the plotline just ends and you don't even get his Rune from his corpse, if he's even dead at all, and also you never mention any of this to Malenia, who also fights you because randomly trying to murder you specifically is the only thing everyone in this continent seems to agree on.

                >they cut content like motherfuckers
                that's plain as daylight
                >Melina obviously has super secret plan
                >constant references to the gloam-eyed queen
                >no explanation as to why she needs to get to the erdtree and burn it
                >never explained, she just dies lmao

                >miquella left just fucking lying inside an egg, "SGO, TAK" just tells you "idk you should probably kill miquella or just leave him alone, whatever"

                >two fingers and three fingers of shabriri introduced
                >obviously related and opposing
                >never explained what the fuck they are, where they came from, or what they want

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah, the key to the secret goldmask ending is literally goldmask saying "lmao just stop giving a fuck" and removing ambition from the world
                You're mentally retarded and the other guy was right, you get your lore from Vaati because that's just a fucking lie vaati watching secondaries parrot

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Melina obviously has super secret plan
                No she doesn't
                >constant references to the gloam-eyed queen
                One(1) in one(1) ending that we don't even know is a reference or not
                >no explanation as to why she needs to get to the erdtree and burn it
                She's Marika's daughter and Marika wants her to reach the erdtree, she doesn't know she needs to burn it until you get there and she speaks to Marika herself
                >never explained, she just dies lmao
                She burns herself as kindling for the flame of ruin

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >She's Marika's daughter
                >keeps calling Marika her mother
                >says she's born from the Erdtree
                >literally referenced by one of the three butterflies alongside Malenia and Miquela
                >everyone just goes "WTF IS SHE???"
                I swear everyone's just purposely ignoring this for some reason.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because the only way chuds can keep shrieking "IT MAKES NO SENSE IT'S A CLUSTERFUCK UNFINISHED GAME CUT CONTENT CUT CONTENT" is by deliberately ignoring things the game plainly lays out right in front of your face

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >dude just dig through game files and cut content to understand the story lmao
                fromdrones are something else

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Everything I posted is literally in the game you goddamn troglodyte. The only "game file" in my post is the image I posted which only serves to reinforce what's already spelled out in the game.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                She says it directly to you in the game you drooling retard

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Elden ring is fun as fuck and I've sunk countless hours into it
                that said, the three endings are:
                >waifuism travel into the sunset
                >lmao destroy the world
                >Mass Effect 3 "press Y to change color palette" endings where you sit in a chair

                it's either unfinished or retardedly low-effort

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it was made almost entirely during coof
                so of course it's unfinished

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it was made almost entirely during coof
                so of course it's unfinished

                It's From milking these Bamco bucks and scratching that open world itch they always had. Simple.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Me, I'm searching for my purpose given to me by my mother inside the Erdtree long ago, for the reason that I yet live, burned and bodyless. >I was born at the foot of the Erdtree. Where mother gave me my purpose.
                >There is something I'd like to say. My purpose was given to me by my mother. But now, I act of my own volition.
                >I have set my heart upon the world that I would have. Regardless of my mother's designs.
                She literally says it in your face multiple times you mong. Also there's three obtainable butterflies in the game that references Marika's later offsprings. One references Miquella's cocooned state and the other references Malenia's eventual role as the goddess of rot. The third one references Melina's role as the kindling maiden.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the reason why nobody wants to believe that Melina is Marika's daughter is that it's a boring answer. who the fuck cares if Marika is Melina's mom? it's more interesting if she's something cool like the gloam eyed queen.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                could be both GEQ and sister to the twins

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >then teleports you
                she doesnt
                she dies and disappears before she can do that
                we are teleported there by game code, not by her
                just admit it makes zero sense retard

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes she does, just like she teleported us to the Roundtable Hold at the beginning of the game
                >just admit
                Shut up retard

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh yeah? Then who teleports us when we burn the tree using the frenzied flame?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Three Fingers presumably

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pretending that "Cut Content: The Character"'s anything is coherent or 'clearly in the game you're just a speedwatcher' is just fucking pathetic. The character who was with us explicitly so we'd bring her somewhere can now, after death, randomly teleport us to a place and back.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >i-it's cut content!!!
                How does it not make sense to you that the character who explicitly says "THIS WORLD NEEDS TO HAVE DEATH AGAIN," who teleported us to the hub at the beginning of the game, then teleports us to the location where the literal concept of death is locked away? Are you legitimately stupid?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they admitted this is a weakness on their own part

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Those who live in death RIGHT FUCKING THERE

            The only reason people claim it's not that is because From Software shit the bed when it came to defining enemies as undead for the aux bonus.
            Only Skeletons, Death bird variation and spiritcaller snails count as undead. This is a game with enemies like Putrid Corpses, Wraiths and multiple ghosts, none of which count as undead.

            So the claim that the "Hollow" soldiers aren't a result of Living in Death being wrong based on aux bonuses can't be taken as fact, because the would be claiming the zombies aren't a result of deathblight.

            >From Software shit the bed when it came to defining enemies as undead
            Because most of them aren't undead dumbass, they're functionally immortal because the literal concept of death is sealed away and they've been "dying" and being resurrected over and over in endless wars for centuries

            They're not resurrected, they're literally just undying and become walking mummies over time. Marika perverted the natural lifecycle the GW created when it planted the Crucible/Erdtree. All things are meant to life and die, and break and bend in old age.
            >Abandoning their birthplace after the Shattering, these undead beings are the pitiful product of unending life. They are most commonly found struggling to maintain balance while roaming the fields of The Lands Between. Surely they were in search of something once - but whatever it was has long been forgotten.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            aren't alot of the enemies just normal dudes who want to kill you?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Trying to Kill the Tarnished is the Land Between's main sport.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Women have literally killed themselves and their children over bad divorce. It's 100% realistic.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        men are far more likely to do that shit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Incredibly depressed and with major self esteem issues.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Women have literally killed themselves and their children over bad divorce. It's 100% realistic.

        She’s the queen, head of the academy, and lead armies from the front lines, she should have a stronger will than this

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >should
          lel

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          chadagon was just that charming

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Being left for another woman is a kidney punch many women, no matter how strong, just can't recover from.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Renalla wasn't completely mindbroken until Ranni died, she was depressed but didn't turn into the Rune of Rebirth schizo locked in the library with her creations we see in the game until Ranni "died"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          women

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      More like "woman moment".

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Marika was never insane
      She disrupted the Golden Order after Godwyn

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Miyazaki is incapable of writing grief that doesn't result in people becoming catatonically depressed or genocidal because he's a fucking hack.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sieglinde

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It wasn’t that, no?
      That was rough but I believe the tipping point was her believing Ranni died. I can imagine losing your beloved daughter would take a toll on you as a mother.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah more like

      >every child dead
      >we are in war
      >hogwarts is shit now
      >and my husband left me

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >my husband left me
      >one of my sons is a zombie
      >the other one is into vore
      >my daughter killed herself
      Rennala had a hard life

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can’t beat the cock.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >implying you wouldn't do the same if your waifu left
      Bet you'd kys instead of making weird slug kids all day.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rennala is kind of a nerd.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      a cute nerd

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kat from gravity rush looks different than i remember

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aren't they the same person?

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    marika's tits indeed

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you could fuck yourself, you would

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nah

      if they ever clone me im getting rid of that clone asap

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's literally why sexual reproduction exists. You're not that much different from your gf if you think a bit.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why you taking shit from Facebook third worlder?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what are you babbling about now?

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    for the greater good

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd leave Rennala for just about any girl in a heartbeat. Worst girl by far.
    >ugly as fuck
    >weird ass proportions
    >most pathetic character in the setting
    >a fucking retard

    I only wish I could've killed her proper.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't bully Ranni's retarded mom

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon is
      >ugly as fuck
      Blind
      >weird ass proportions
      And stupid
      >most pathetic character in the setting
      And heartless to a MILF in desperate need of protection and comfort
      >a fucking retard
      You're signing your posts now?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >most pathetic character in the setting
      Renalla was so strong in her prime that Marika had to resort to seducing and psyoping her because she couldn't conquer Liurnia in a direct fight. This is the person who was able to genocide multiple factions backed by Outer Gods like the Fire Giants and Gloam Eyed Queen, but Renalla completely wrecked Marika in 2 separate wars

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >that Marika had to resort to seducing and psyoping her because she couldn't conquer Liurnia in a direct fight.
        Unless Ranni's dream fight version of Renalla was an absolute joke compared to the real deal, it's ludicrous that Leyendell couldn't conquer Raya Lucaria. No, the more likely explanation is that Radagon saw the opportunity to become more powerful by joining and learning from the academy, which also gave him the opportunity to subvert it at almost no cost.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Unless Ranni's dream fight version of Renalla was an absolute joke compared to the real deal

          The fact that everything in the game is perfectly killable by a random dickhead who's clearly weaker than everyone else is one of the most irreconcilable aspects of the game. All other Souls games rely on you being this grunt who has some special talent (usually, immortality) that allows them to overcome insurmountable enemies through sheer grit, but Elden Ring goes to far in building up its threats only to have them all fall to the same asshole, up to an including Gideon's A MAN CANNOT KILL A GOD followed up by a man killing said God by stabbing it a bunch of times like it was one of those random forest bears. It isn't even clear if your character is supposed to be able to revive of it's just a gameplay thing.

          Sekiro was written around the same time as Elden Ring and that game made it clear Wolf was pretty damn good at his job already, so him also being able to revive makes him a match for his toughest enemies, which are almost all also just pretty good human fighters with the occasional superpower. Here the difference in power is ridiculous.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Godfrey is literally just a random dude like the PC is and he’s established as one of the strongest in the lore. The story dies establish that gigachad humans can compete with Demicucks and ayylmaos in power level

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Godfrey was married to Marika and fathered her first three children, he's not just some random dude

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well he's just a human, a very strong, very tall human, but a human.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well, so are you, Tarnished. And you're killing demi-gods.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There’s nothing special about him, he married Marika because he was the strongest but there’s no reason for his strength beyond him just being a Chad.
                He has no golden lineage, no outer god bullshit, no Magic bullshit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He was so strong that he needed to fuse with the spirit of a lion god to keep his destructive bloodlust in check, he's clearly exceptional in some way beyond just being the chad to end all chads

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The golden lineage came out of his dick. Its his lineage.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Wolf was pretty damn good at his job already, so him also being able to revive makes him a match for his toughest enemies
            also Wolf is canonically unable to do literally anything meaningful until he collects the IB. without Rivers of Blood (lol), Wolf wouldn't have been able to even remotely do anything to DoH, Headless Ape, or Genichiro.

            I'm assuming the Runes are supposed to be that "thing" that sets the Tarnished apart, but it's pretty meaningless when you're supposed to believe that +10 vitality makes you able to kill a god

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Wolf wouldn't have been able to even remotely do anything to DoH, Headless Ape, or Genichiro
              He also wouldn't have been able to kill the revived Isshin, since he was literally reborn as an immortal undead during the final boss.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >All other Souls games rely on you being this grunt who has some special talent (usually, immortality) that allows them to overcome insurmountable enemies through sheer grit
            that's the exact same situation as the Tarnished, all of them get brought back from dying. Eventually once they prove themselves major fuckups they lose their ability to see grace again, which is why most of the NPCs you encounter stay dead when you kill them.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >all of them get brought back from dying
              If not for the intro cinematic, there wouldn't be a single goddamn thing in the game even vaguely hinting at the Tarnished being undead. The only things in the game are "ye dead, who still live" and the shots of Gideon in his tomb and PoopoMuncher getting hanged. Then the game starts and this is never brought up again, much less any mention of how this ties up with the other type of undead that is bad, unlike your type of undead, which is good.

              They did the undead protagonist thing at the start because this is Dark Souls 4, but then completely forgot about it during the rest of the game.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm fairly certain it's a belief/faith thing. Rodericka wasn't a fuckup, she had a clear ability to see the spirit world, but she got spooked hard and lost all self esteem. BLACKGUARD BIG BOGART never had any faith at all in himself, and as such, could never see the Graces from the start. Watching your crime buddy get tied to a chair and buttraped into soulessness would also have done it to him.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My question is: EHAT THE FUCK DOES IT MEAN THAT DEATH IS SEALED??? There is absolutely nothing in the entire game that makes it seem like death being sealed has an actual effect. We don't see anything that would make us think death doesn't work.
            >Stab somebody
            He dies
            >stab demigod
            >he dies
            So where the fuck is the reason for sealed death? Grace is the thing that revives us and its working even after death is released. bros in the thread, just admit it doesn't make any sense

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              To me it feels like Destined Death was only meant to be the 'kills things super fucking hard' part of Death, not the entirety of it. You need it to burn down the entire Erdtree and the Black Flame used to be able to one shot Gods, and sealing it made it a lot harder to kill Gods/Demigods (and maybe stopped them dying from Old Age). Hence why you're still able to kill Demigods and bosses without it.
              Except then woops everyone's Hollow and immortal (please ignore the fact that the worldbuilding as a whole does not take into account that everyone is immortal). Except for all those people Dung Eater murdered.

              A FINE DARK SOUL TO YOU

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              lorelet...
              After death every soul goes back to the Erdtree where it brings everyone back eventually in an endless cycle of death and rebirth. Thats why Erdtree burial is so important in the lands between. Souls were stuck in this state making everyone mad and violent af.
              Destined Death is the release of that cycle, that is why everyone is so afraid of it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Unless Ranni's dream fight version of Renalla was an absolute joke compared to the real deal
          that should be obvious, Ranni is a shell of herself in doll form and creating an illusion. Renalla's personal knights were strong enough to match Marika's champions, those being classified as people like Ragadon or Godfrey

          >Weapon of knights sworn to Carian royalty.
          >These knights' swords could serve as catalysts, letting them wield sorcerous battle skills. Despite numbering fewer than twenty, this power made them a match for even the champions of gold in battle.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don’t forget that, like Horah Loux, Renalla is 100% human.
        It’s fucking hilarious how two amongst some of the strongest people in the setting, are not demigods. They have zero divine power, and are just mortals who were badass enough to bang Marika.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's almost like all gods you see in game aren't actuall gods and just powerfull retards who communicated with actuall gods

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i can fix her

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Would they? Marika probably spent a lot of time in that tree.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did we all forget all at the same time that the Lands Between are Mad Max for the game of becoming Elden Lord

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There is not a SINGLE Tarnished doing the slightest fucking thing towards that goal other than you. Even Gideon won't get off his ass.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Vyke ane Bernahl both tried to become elden lord, Vyke was corrupted by the Three Fingers and Bernahl forsook the throne after realizing he'd have to sacrifice his maiden

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There were two that did shit before (You) arrived.
        >Vyke got very close to the throne before going to the 3 fingers
        >Bernahl probably got to the Forge of the Giants with his maiden to burn the Erdtree, but since she wasn't the kindling maiden, her death did nothing and his journey was paused until you came along

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Bernahl probably got to the Forge of the Giants with his maiden to burn the Erdtree
          Which would have necessitated beating fucking Morgott to open the way. All these backstory nonsense attempts completely rely on assuming these guys who've right there since the Shattering inexplicably took a long weekend off blocking their paths and shit so these other random assholes could theoretically do thing they obviously couldn't have.

          See Bernahl got to the Forge because Morgott and the Fire Giant went to the Bahamas on vacation that week. Also he even got to Altus in the first place by taking the long we round either through Volcano manor or the mine cave but not killing anything because the monsters haunting these places left him along since he was such a swell guy.

          Vyke got closest than anybody to being the Elden Lord by defeating two members of the Golden Lineage, Gilfroiding of the Golden Nipple, and Bob, and also got all the way to the forge because Morgott was off visiting Comicon at the time.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Solaire beat every boss in Dark Souls 1 and got all the way to Gwyn to help you fight him

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nah, he specifically moves from place to place after you clear the path for him, vyke and bernhal's backstory don't make sense because every roadblock (most notably morgott, who willingly camps in front of stormveil castle to weed out the shitters) is still in place.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he specifically moves from place to place after you clear the path for him
                He got to Anor Londo and Izalith before you, he's already sitting at the bonfires when you show up in both places and he got to the Kiln early enough to have put his summon sign down for you

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                IIRC he doesn't move to anal london until you rest on the first bonfire, not that there's any boss blocking the way. On izalith i don't remember if you can get to the bonfire he spawns in without killing the centipede or ass demon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's already sitting there before you light both bonfires

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                For a long time it was a popular theory that Solaire is basically another main character in an alternate world, going through the same trials and victories you are. Because different worlds and times are all coming together at the end of the age of fire, just like he says early on, the different potential worlds are coming together, mixing, allowing for the meeting of otherwise impossible cooperation. Hence why you can call other undead, other players, despite the fact that you can't ALL have gotten as strong, fought the same bosses, etc. Under that theory most of the other people you meet are all potential chosen undead who could have had X or Y adventure, and Solare's basically the only other person who could have made it all the way to the end, and even then only with the intervention of a friend from another world.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not even a theory really, it's directly confirmed by Solaire and originally Oscar was going to be another "chosen undead" that was sort of like your Gary Oak and he'd make it to the end of the game trying to do the opposite of whatever you were trying to do

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The alternate worlds thing never made sense from a worldbuilding perspective and seems at odds with the setting
                It’s not elaborated upon much and seems for an in-universe way to explain multiplayer

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's 2-3 unaccounted great runes that you cannot obtain.
                >Miquella's. It isn't attached to his body, as Mohg only has his own rune in his possession.
                >Ranni's. It's on the moon, good luck getting that one in the dlc.
                >Godwyn's? He died before the shattering, but some dumb fuck probably brought a rune fragment to his corpse before losing it.
                And it's only the 2 fingers that block you specifically from entering the capital, not anything else. Morgott is the one that blocks the path to the forge, but considering that one of the Haslow brothers was known to be at the mountaintop before Morgott dies, it stands to reason that there was another path there at some point.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            uuuhhhh time is convoluted in the lands between

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There were two that did shit before (You) arrived.
            >Vyke got very close to the throne before going to the 3 fingers
            >Bernahl probably got to the Forge of the Giants with his maiden to burn the Erdtree, but since she wasn't the kindling maiden, her death did nothing and his journey was paused until you came along

            Is the game actually running off the souls concept of every tarnished being from a different time? Because it does sort of seem like that, like From really structured the story around "Yeah Vyke did beat all the demigods but then fell to Frenzied Flame in his time line so he invades your world".

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >her death did nothing
          where do you think all the ash in Leyendell comes from that is there prior to you also burning the tree? Berahl did the same thing but joined Rykard instead of finishing the task
          >Worn by Bernahl the Recusant.
          >Beasts are drawn to champions, and to lords. And this armor befits a champion worthy of becoming a lord. And that is what Bernahl was.
          >Until his maiden threw herself into the fire.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jerking off is easier

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    marika is sexo

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Marika needs to go and stay go.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She also has disaster pussy and keeps popping out malformed retards.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and keeps popping out malformed retards.
        To be fair it kept popping out both malformeds and retards, but no malformed retard.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Explain Godwyn

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Might be a fishman

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well, why isn't it mentioned anywhere then?
            The whole becoming a fish thing he has going on is both a reference to some traditional japanese monster shit and a mistake because he's actually turning into a basilisk, so conjecturally it's much more likely it's just a side effect of his cancer

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Greater Will / Elden Beast / Two Fingers told him to. I think he was perfectly happy with Rennala and would have stayed if he could.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    she'll make you her replacement husband

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Me: "Yes, ma'am. I am not worthy of this honor. But I will do all I can to make you forget what's his name."

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She's top wife material, imagine going with that buxom whore who goes off her rocker and destroys the world and its age of serene stability under the erdtree and golden order. What for? What the fuck made her decide to shatter the ring like that? What did she even mean by this?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She's just your average woman. Bad bitch behavior

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Elden Ring story and Lore is a shitty clusterfuck because they just lazily did Dark Souls world again and forgot to fill in important details that made that world cohesive and actually interesting.

    Seriously, so many things lack crucial information or are even contradictory. And this is not just some obscure lore elements, but actual main fucking story. Seriously.

    If you ask lorefags or Vaati fanboys ANY of these questions, you will always get like 10 completely different, often contradictory answers, each delivered to you with 100% certainty and telling you to git gud because you didn't get Miyazaki's brilliant storytelling made from reading shitty random item descriptions:
    >Why did Marika shatter the Elden Ring?
    >What is Destined Death/Rune of Death? How are they different? If death went wrong and no one dies, how do we kill fellow Tarnished, Demigods, bosses etc.
    >Who was Torrent's former master and why Torrent chose us?
    >Who is Melina, why she disappears for 90% of the game explaining fuck all about anything and then appears again to kill herself, again, with no explanation?
    >Why are we teleported to Farum Azula out of blue? Why we need Rune of Death? Why and how are we teleported back to Leyndell?

    I won't even mention shit like bad worldbuilding. Apparently Lands Between is a home to countless mines, caves, dungeons, catacombs but no cities (only one), villages, fields to make food or even fucking ports for ships to arrive.

    This is more than just typical Dark Souls ambigous storytelling. This is a clearly rushed and rewritten game. Not to mention there was ZERO reason to be obscure. DaS was obscure because it was the theme of the game and it's story. Demon Souls was straightforward, so was Bloodborne and ESPECIALLY Sekiro, so WHY Elden Ring isn't? When it's clearly based on worldbuilding by GRRM with way more epic, heroic fantasy with politics, families, dynasties playing IMPORTANT role?

    It's such a fucking mess.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most important part though, is that we aren't meant to CARE at all about Lands Between.
      >Other lands seem to be doing alright aside from Reeds.
      >We are dropped randomly and expected to just go into the world and kill shit for no reason.
      >Only later we are taken to Roundtable and told about restoring Elden Ring and becoming an Elden Lord but WHY would i want to do that? Grace casted me away in the first place so maybe i don't want to listen to it anymore? And before you say "you do whatever you want" then there is no point for the story to exist in the first place.

      What happens if we just fuck off? We don't know. Like, actually do not know. Every answer is just headcanon like "world/physics/laws will fuck up" but nothing actually confirms that. EVERY other From game gave us a reason to do shit:
      >DeS
      Demon's will fuck up humanity if we don't do something.
      >DaS
      Age of Fire is ending and Age of Dark is coming. Also Oscar saves you at the start and tells you about prophecy, making you indebted to him.
      >Sekiro
      You are shinobi serving a young lord. You help him because he saved your life, because he is an innocent and because your adoptive father told you to.
      >BB
      You are trapped in a nightmare and have to survive.

      But NOTHING in ER motivates us to do fucking ANYTHING. It's like they forgot to do the most basic of basics because they were too trapped in copying shit redditors want from a Souls game like shonen anime bosses/Artorias on crack, item descriptions and other garbage.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Okay, but what's your tax policy?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Souls
      >neo-Berserk
      >Drive for life empowers humans, there doesn't need to be an explanation
      >People prevail and endure despite the overwhelming odds that they're at the mercy of things far beyond their control and the universe destroys everything in cycles of cleansing
      >attempting to secure the power of the gods unwittingly enslaves you and disrupts the balance of everything

      Bloodborne
      >People seek out esoteric methods to understand the universe and gain its power, unwittingly staring into the abyss which stares into them
      >what we may consider gods may just as easily be interstellar refuse that washes up on our shores, far beyond understanding
      >insight into the machinations of the universe begets only madness

      Sekiro
      >synthesis of some of the best works of fiction
      >heavily inspired by Blade of the Immortal's story, where immortality upsets the balance of the universe and is actually a burden
      >hesitation means death
      >nearly every enemy has either been tainted and perverted by immortality or tainted by the desire to obtain immortality
      >you must heal the world by accepting mortality and returning a power humanity was not meant to have

      Elden Rangs
      >lmao demigods fucking each other
      >have to clean up the result of a bunch of assholes squabbling over family shit
      >entire purpose is just because some bitch was upset about an alien tree giving her unlimited power
      >thanks for accepting my quest, now wait for the story to progress then return to an area you already cleared at this specific time so you can give me a bag of rocks or whatever and I'll die
      >unironically the best endings are either waifuism or "press X to destroy the world" because every other ending is just a ME3-style "choose your color grade" ending

      what went so wrong?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bloodborne's lore is a rushed piece of shit.
      >but it's SUPPOSED to not make sense bro... lovecraft......
      the fucking of cope.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the old blood drives you crazy and turns you into a monster
        >shit gets really bad every full moon (because werewolves, later you learn that the moon is an alien who descends every couple years to find a successor)
        >every citizen drinks it like if it were water, both because they find it tasty and because it can heal wounds and illnesses
        >also, the church technically shoves it down your throat, so you literally can't help but drink it
        >you are john bloodborne, who went to yharnam for said cure
        >you get to experience everything first hand
        >you also get roped into the alien shit by a crippled old man who NAKADASHIs a living doll
        >slowly you learn that the old blood doesn't turn you into a werewolf, but an alien
        >it was aliens all along, and they came from underground
        It's actually pretty straight forward, everyone but oedon is elaborated upon in the game itself.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Blonde hair
    >Big tits
    >Big ass

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why did SHE do it?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You have to be specific, anon. She's done so many things...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Killed Godwyn
      He was a glowing shill for the Golden Order. He was in the way and needed to die for the next part two parts to happen
      >Killed herself
      The main reason is that letting her body die helps her escape her intended destiny. As a bonus, she now also gets to pretend that she’s Renna (avoiding the consequences of her previous identity), and it turns out that dolls are actually pretty hard to kill.
      >Started the Shattering
      Basically every single person who opposed her went off and murdered each other. Furthermore, the war absolutely trashed the strength/stability of the Golden Order (her main enemy). The resulting chaos of the Shattering gave her room to set her plans in motion which would have otherwise been impossible.
      >Marry’s the tarnished
      You’re her little rare-sort
      >All of the above
      Ranni, just like Marika, fucking seethes over the fact that God exists, and tries to tell her what to do. She is an advocate of free will, although it’s apparent that there’s no lengths she won’t go to, with zero concern for the amount of misery and suffering that will result from her actions.

      So tl;dr she’s a psycho who had a woman moment, and then girlboss’d her way to victory. The bright side is that despite all of this, she seems to genuinely have some feelings for you.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >She is an advocate of free will, although it’s apparent that there’s no lengths she won’t go to
        She follows the Dark Moon, an unknown entity of space whose moon eye thing kind of resembles the Astel's center eye.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Correct, but from what we can tell, it’s not actually telling her what to do.
          She connects with some weird space entity that is helping her, but it’s not controlling her

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't buy that the Dark Moon is an Outer God. I think it's more of a symbolic thing that indicates the overall lack of God influence.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >anime and meme artist from twitter that tried to pretend to be a white girl when HE was a fat mexican

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      QRD?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The artist of OP's art is called Tina Fate and he's one of those guys that draws nothing but flavor of the month anime girls doing memes for upvotes on twitter. If I remember correctly he pretended to be a girl until he was doxxed.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Just like my favourite mangaka Fujimoto!

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How good was Radagon cock that Rennala immediately became mind broken when she lost it?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would think that was obvious, anon. The question is its own answer.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She's a alpha widow who got dumped for a hourglass big tits big ass 10/10 blonde goddess and knows that everything after Radagon will be a downgrade of the highest level so she accepts her fate and goes full depressed female volcel.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Blondly white girls are goddesses.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >thou seek rebirth?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't find Rennala attractive, but you just know she probably had some fat tits and thighs. It's just her face is kind of uggo, not sure how old she is, but she looked easily in her 40's. I guess if you're into MILF's.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >there is cut dialogue of Godfrey talking to Marika that he wants to hug her again
    so was he a simp or did they really love each other?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      more like log cutter
      as in my asshole

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Source

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because he was a truly devout tried and true Faithbro. He only married Rennala to win the Carians over to the Golden Order, even refurbished his wedding sword into a Golden Order one. He only merged (back) with Marika because he genuinely believes in the Golden Order's cause, even if it meant overriding Marika for her woman moment.

    People who think he genuinely loved Rennala are coping Rennalafags. Fanartists who draw Marika/Radagon still pining for Rennala are the same. Radagon only ever cared about one thing, and that's his faith in the Greater Will over everything else.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He wasn't a true faithbro. He was a bitch that was forever mad about being a ginger.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because being ginger meant you are tied to the giants. He's basically Loki/Thor rolled into one.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >forever mad about being a ginger
        Why else do you think he was overcompensating by taking over the GO and Marika?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >forever mad about being a ginger.
        as he should be gingers caused most of the serious problems in the game

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I too would fuck me(female) if I happened to look like that.
    >two of his kids are the product of selfsect

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's her/she

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Radagon just used Rennala for his/Marika's gain, I don't believe he ever truly loved her, and just wanted to gain power/information from Raya Lucaria and the Carian family.

    Radagon was a dog of the Golden Order, it's why he went out of his way to try and repair the Elden Ring, Marika wanted nothing to do with the Golden Order anymore, so in a way she had betrayed the Greater Will, Radagon was punished by association even though he still served the Greater Will and wanted the Elden Ring repaired.

    We really know nothing about Radagon's origin though, as others have said, Marika probably just created Radagon or willed him into existence, maybe the Greater Will did it? Either way he was clearly just a servant of the Greater Will/Golden Order.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't believe he ever truly loved her
      He gave her the Great Rune of the Unborn (rebirth).

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And it's why she's retarded. He was playing the long game.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          She's retarded because she took the break up too hard.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >We really know nothing about Radagon's origin though, as others have said, Marika probably just created Radagon or willed him into existence, maybe the Greater Will did it?
      It seems to be more likely that he was brought into existence out of sheer cognitive dissonance. Marika is the golden goddess and incarnate avatar of the erdtree, but she hates the erd tree and the elden ring? It makes no sense, and she knows it doesn't. Radagon rectifies exists not only to calcify order before it can decay further, but to bring logic to Marika's existence.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It would make more sense if the Greater Will created Radagon to keep Marika on a leash, or as a backup plan if Marika didn't work out. We know nothing about the Greater Will except that it's a god-like entity but it has no form or history that we know of, it wouldn't be out of the question that the Greater Will can just literally DO anything, of course it apparently couldn't stop us from slaying the Elden Beast and dismantling the Golden Order.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Greater Will doesn't like to micromanage, despite what the gay fingers pretend. If anyone interfered, it was probably the Elden Beast itself, its influence growing inside of her as she continued to hate and scheme against it.

          >Unless Ranni's dream fight version of Renalla was an absolute joke compared to the real deal

          The fact that everything in the game is perfectly killable by a random dickhead who's clearly weaker than everyone else is one of the most irreconcilable aspects of the game. All other Souls games rely on you being this grunt who has some special talent (usually, immortality) that allows them to overcome insurmountable enemies through sheer grit, but Elden Ring goes to far in building up its threats only to have them all fall to the same asshole, up to an including Gideon's A MAN CANNOT KILL A GOD followed up by a man killing said God by stabbing it a bunch of times like it was one of those random forest bears. It isn't even clear if your character is supposed to be able to revive of it's just a gameplay thing.

          Sekiro was written around the same time as Elden Ring and that game made it clear Wolf was pretty damn good at his job already, so him also being able to revive makes him a match for his toughest enemies, which are almost all also just pretty good human fighters with the occasional superpower. Here the difference in power is ridiculous.

          >up to an including Gideon's A MAN CANNOT KILL A GOD
          The point of that speech is that Gideon is an idiot and a salty loser who was trying to rationalize some newbie being the grace given chosen champion and not him.

          >Unless Ranni's dream fight version of Renalla was an absolute joke compared to the real deal
          that should be obvious, Ranni is a shell of herself in doll form and creating an illusion. Renalla's personal knights were strong enough to match Marika's champions, those being classified as people like Ragadon or Godfrey

          >Weapon of knights sworn to Carian royalty.
          >These knights' swords could serve as catalysts, letting them wield sorcerous battle skills. Despite numbering fewer than twenty, this power made them a match for even the champions of gold in battle.

          Ranni can just fucking kill you in one hit without being able to do anything. I find it hard to believe that she couldn't have made dream Renalla tougher if she wanted to. The more likely explanation is that this is just how strong she actually was, which makes sense, she was ultimately only human.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anybody pretending anything relating to Melina isn't grievously unfinished is such a hopeless coping fanboy that there's no point in even addressing them. Just laugh at them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >grievously unfinished
      There's nothing implying that Melina had a bigger role. She's just the waifu of choice for the Frenzied Flame route. No more no less.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The fact that her backstory makes no sense and is also totally contradictory is a byproduct of tons of shit being cut from the final product.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Effortlessly mogs every single demicuck
    Feels good being a Tarnishedchad

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >just now realize Godfrey's axe used to be double sided and one side has broken off from too many chad moments in the badlands
      It's the little things.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ITT : we pretend Elden ring had a story

    I love this meme!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The turtle pope basically lore dumps this one to you. Even retarded normies know Radagon left Rennala for Marika.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >paying attention to the flavor dialogues

        Nerd.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Manga/PS1 Motoko is never coming back.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >why yes, I have tiktok zoomer level attention span, how could you tell?

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the origin of portraying Marika as an amazonic bombshell?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So that she can get creampied by Godfrey and then herself to make god babies

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When people actually looked at her model though it's obviously been exaggerated over time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Radagon is Ganker, she is Radagon, etc.

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Radagon and Marika are easily the weakest part of the game's lore. There's simply too big of a chunk completely left out.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can agree with that. We're talking 1,000 years of in-game history at the absolute least and Marika's life is a gigantic black hole. We barely know anything about Radagon, so it's not even worth theorizing when he "manifested" or whether he was a normal guy that fused with her.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why do they look all Hades'd up here?

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so these two were made through weird self replication or something?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i like her scars being covered by gold. that's a neat design change.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It also doesn't contradict lore since you can just imagine the rot pushing them out over time as she deteriorated.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >design change
        it's canon in her actual game model. She has gold sewn into her remaining arm and fingers to save them from the rot, you can see her fingers are almost completely healthy because of it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh yeah! I forgot about that. It's so tarnished and dirty. I thought it was smudges.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're basically gendered opposites of Marika and Radagon (the blonde boy is more feminine, red-haired girl is more masculine).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, that's why they're both so powerful. They're near perfect copies of the only actual god in the setting. If Malenia wasn't cursed with the rot she'd be invincible.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Malenia literally becomes god (of rot) and still killed by a man with stick
        Miquella got assfucked by his retarded omen brother

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They're near perfect copies of the only actual god in the setting
        when will retards learn "god" and "demigod" mean nothing and are just titles? Marika was just a literal who Numen with potential when she was chosen, Two Fingers just look for people with potential to select

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    manshoulders ruin it

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >realize this game has side quest
    >what the fuck am I doing
    >return to murderhoboing and looting their gear

    I just entered the academy and realized I just broke in, murdered the guard dog and now gonna whack a hag to loot her stick that I can't use since I'm a Intlet and Arclet

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I just entered the academy and realized I just broke in, murdered the guard dog and now gonna whack a hag to loot her stick
      yeah because god told you to

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Is the only boss to show the player respect
    > Doesn’t have any retarded schizo lore surrounding him
    > Has a based Tomboy chadess for a daughter instead of scheming demishits
    > Mogs every other boss in power level
    What went so right with him?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >daughter
      I would say grand grand grand...granddaughter

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I liked the part where he reveals his other name and it has precisely zero fucking impact because it hasn't come up again since the intro cinematic.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        *erection in my pants while I hold a megaphone up* HOARAH LOUX CHIEFTAIN OF THE BADLANDS

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that was kinda lame but on second thought it is indeed a cool reveal. It's also ironic that gideon dies claiming no tarnished can become lord... only for Godfrey to be a fightfag tarnished.
        it's probably to show you that indeed, you can become the next elden lord

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It's also ironic that gideon dies claiming no tarnished can become lord... only for Godfrey to be a fightfag tarnished.
          >it's probably to show you that indeed, you can become the next elden lord
          I never really thought about that but you're right

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He’s mentioned in the Champion set item description

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're telling me Godfrey could solo Radahn or Melania? Kek, I'm not so sure about that. Godfrey was incredibly overhyped for a simple warrior class barbarian with no special powers or abilities.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Radhan literally looked up to Godfrey out of admiration. So yes.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Godfrey slayed all of the Golden Order's enemies and then came back stronger to brandish the Elden Ring, so probably. The demigods are trifling things

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >a simple warrior class barbarian with no special pow- ACK
        >gets thrown twenty feet in the air and slamdunked

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Is the only boss to show the player respect
      Rykard, Maliketh, Mohg

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Maliketh
        He calls you a dumbass though.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what went wrong that I don't even remember this fight? fromsoft and ending a game. boss after boss after boss with no real lore, no real other content... yeah, after Crumbling Azula the game pretty much dies.
      Not even going to go into the actual ending "cinematics".

      disclaimer: Elden Ring is my favorite game ever and I started gaming in 90s. It's just that the ending is very very shit compared to the rest of the game.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For me it was Godfrey's own grace pointing towards the player in the cutscene as his next objective

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I thought godfrey didn't have grace

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He's tarnished like you, grace was given back to him along with all the other tarnished

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            why was grace given back to him
            also doesn't that mean he's been afk for 5000 years doing nothing despite his grace working

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because Marika gave it back to all the tarnished to call them back to the Lands Between in hopes that one of them would be strong enough to kill the Elden Beast

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so godfrey's grace has been working this whole time, given to him by his girlfriend, and he's been afk for 5000 years until the day you showed up instead of saving his girlfriend?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He was dead, everyone mentioned in the opening cutscene is tarnished and were dead for an indeterminate amount of time until Marika gave grace back to them which brought them back to life. The intro shows him dead and strung up on a tree

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so he revived at the same time as you or earlier, went afk until you beat the game, then showed up and tried to kill you for trying to save his girlfriend, something he should want to happen?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He wanted to become elden lord too, thats why you fight him.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so why didn't he become elden lore while you were in farum azula

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He got lost

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                did you even play the game? the thorns were blocking the way until you killed maliketh, and even if they werent what does that accomplish if you would just fight him as elden lord

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So that means godfrey, this supposedly infinitely honorable warrior saw the thorns and said "fuck it, I bet a human will open it for me, then when he opens it I'll try to kill him"

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                maybe he was revived only after you started burning the erdtree

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so the guy wakes up, sees the door opened and then waited to try and kill the guy that opened it instead of going in an saving his girlfriend, the whole reason he was revived

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah
                that's probably what a honorable warrior king would do
                or at least a caricature of one

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's holding his son's body when you find him retard, he was mourning him so of course he didn't just toss him aside and sprint for the tree

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So you're saying the motherfucker literally arrived as soon as you were about to go in? What the fuck has he been doing the whole game? Shitting?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fuck if I know, but he makes it sound like he just got there

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The intro cutscene implies that he was revived before you as Horah Loux. His journey probably involved him getting Sarosh to get on his back again, only for him to tear him in half.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Until the Endtree started burning, there was no way in. The Endtree burning was visible all over the Lands Between. When Godfrey saw that, then he knew it was time to go home.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Finishing Farum Azula and unsealing Destined Death is what opens up the Erdtree anon. He basically waited for you to arrive to decide who gets to go in.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The mantle of thorns prevented anyone from entering the erdtree, no one could get in until you burned it and he's presumably just showed up when you meet him and is preoccupied with his son's corpse

                so why didn't he do it himself
                it's HIS motherfucking girlfriend in there

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Burning the Erdtree and unsealing Death was only possible due to Melina an heroing herself. Also Godfrey was maidenless.

                right one of the strongest beings in the world is maidenless, but some scrawny beef jerky human isn't.... because a horse liked him

                To be fair, Melina went out of her way for (You) when she didn't have to.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Godfrey was maidenless.

                right finger maidens would obviously not be attracted to the strongest tarnished in the world, they'd go after a beef jerkey human

                right one of the strongest beings in the world is maidenless, but some scrawny beef jerky human isn't.... because a horse liked him

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also why was morgott guarding a door that nobody could open?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >that nobody could open?
                No one else knew that besides him.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's heavily inferred he had justarrived there late considering he was mourning Morgott who was guarding the Erdtree the whole time.

                Until the Endtree started burning, there was no way in. The Endtree burning was visible all over the Lands Between. When Godfrey saw that, then he knew it was time to go home.

                This. I imagine that the reason why he wouldn't even storm the capital is because he probably knew Morgott and co. are still defending it, else he'd have to face his own children.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The mantle of thorns prevented anyone from entering the erdtree, no one could get in until you burned it and he's presumably just showed up when you meet him and is preoccupied with his son's corpse

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                so why didn't he do it himself
                it's HIS motherfucking girlfriend in there

                He was figuring out how to noclip past Gideon, it took some time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He says he's returned to have an audience with her, and fights you to decide which of you is worthy of becoming her consort. He's a warrior lord after all
                >tarnished warrior, thy strength befits a crown

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >for trying to save his girlfriend
                Considering how you're both trying to be Elden Lord in most endings, you're basically stealing his role and gf.

                you'd think somebody with such a strong honor system they'd beat the game themselves to save their girlfriend that revived them long before a scrawny human showed up to do it themselves

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's maidenless so he couldn't have burned the tree himself

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                right one of the strongest beings in the world is maidenless, but some scrawny beef jerky human isn't.... because a horse liked him

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Finger maidens are in short supply, you can't just grab some random woman and chuck her into the kiln

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                right finger maidens would obviously not be attracted to the strongest tarnished in the world, they'd go after a beef jerkey human

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon. There is ONE Kindling Maiden in the world. Only she and Frenzied Flame can burn the Erdtree. Was she accompanying Godfrey? Or you, the Tarnished?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah actually I never really thought about that but Bernahl tried to burn the tree with his maiden and it didn't work, it seems like only Melina and the pissfire can do it

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >for trying to save his girlfriend
                Considering how you're both trying to be Elden Lord in most endings, you're basically stealing his role and gf.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              he was killed

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remember that part where you meet Kenneth and he acts like it would be reasonable for someone not-Tarnished to come along and save him like there's still something resembling a functional society instead of the entirety of the Lands Between being a barren monster, infested shithole? I thought his deal would turn out to be that he was insane or delusional, but nope, just completely disjointed worldbuilding.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Remember when you, a mortal, come to Malenia, Mohg, Renalla (literally gods) and they all just want to fucking kill you just because why not

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's like it's a video game or something

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The fact that you can't just fucking tell malenia that you found Miquella is just so, so obviously the result of chopped content that it's not even funny. Especially since cut lines make it clear there was a whole plan for a plot there.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like the part where Ranni never acknowledges the fact that I went to smack her retarded mom even if I'm carrying her Rune with me, and also Melina says absolutely fucking nothing for like 60 hours of gameplay even though she's supposed to be right there with me at all times, including when I'm hanging out with Doll Ranni.

        Or the bit where I joined the Volcano Manor to rebel against the fate that nobody was doing anything to force me against and Gideon never seems to find out I'm butchering his buddies but it's okay because it's all dudes that you never once meet outside of said missions.

        Or the bit where you freed Shit Eater for absolutely no reason your character could've been aware of at the time other than this being the only way to interact with him that isn't just killing him so fuck it, you press the button.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean he IS completely delusional, it's just that no one thought it was necessary to put anything in the script that details that it's actually a joke and shouldn't be taken seriously
      >oh yeah now that the world has ended and the balance of every element in the universe is askew, what I really need right now is some rando who will come sit in my fucking decrepit castle filled with monkeys

      Malenia literally becomes god (of rot) and still killed by a man with stick
      Miquella got assfucked by his retarded omen brother

      >Miquella got assfucked by his retarded omen brother
      >be in contact with eldritch god of tainted blood that gives you insane powers on top of demigod status
      >get killed by me, a random dude that accidentally into your underground palace somersaulting around, smacking you with a stick

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >that details that it's actually a joke and shouldn't be taken seriously
        I thought that was when you realized what the demi-humans actually were when you come back to his castle.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Malenia (god tier swordsman who fucked pride Radahn) challenges you, a man with a stick to fight as soon as he sees you
        >Uses power of rot and literally becomes a goddes mid fight
        >Attacks you with flowers, that can nuke whole continent with rot, multiple times
        >Still loses

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair, you're always just slightly out of time to see some last vestige of a functioning civilization. Like Castle Mourne was a functioning place until very recently.
      >But the soldiers all all pasty
      Those guys might be fucked up but they're still functional people. If they had shouted repetitive lines like the Huntsmens in BB you'd be clapping and saying "great world building".

      Which reminds me, Albinauric males actually do have speaking lines like "No no" and "Get away from me".

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maleniasissies it's over... Radahn won...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What the fuck is wrong with Maleniafags to vote for the worst From Software boss as the best in Elden Ring?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Maleniafags
        You answered your own question.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Malenia is the best boss that Fromsoft has made. There are so many viable ways to deal with her. It just filters people who spam dodge button instead of trying to come up with a strategy.

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that Elden Ring was designed to have a bunch of cool looking shit first and story second. It's like if you went on deviantart and pulled the 20 best fantasy artworks and then tried to come up with a story to pull them all together.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      unironically the involvement of GRRM ruined it
      introducing "royal family squabbles and backstabbing" into the story didn't make that mundane shit interesting, it just made the rest of the story feel mundane.
      unironically it would have been more interesting to chase the Rune of Death and have that function like the Immortal Blade, where you can actually perma-kill shit
      It impacts the story because the Erdtree and GO sustain themselves by feeding off of the energy of making humanity constantly wage war, reviving them, and keeping the cycle of war going. By using the RoD, you upset the GO's cycle by perma-killing the people who were supposed to be feeding it energy via warfare. No need to introduce "well see the queen was upset because her consort fucked another girl and then they all got upset."

      >all of them get brought back from dying
      If not for the intro cinematic, there wouldn't be a single goddamn thing in the game even vaguely hinting at the Tarnished being undead. The only things in the game are "ye dead, who still live" and the shots of Gideon in his tomb and PoopoMuncher getting hanged. Then the game starts and this is never brought up again, much less any mention of how this ties up with the other type of undead that is bad, unlike your type of undead, which is good.

      They did the undead protagonist thing at the start because this is Dark Souls 4, but then completely forgot about it during the rest of the game.

      deepest lore is that you were somebody that was banished by Marika from the Lands Between (the interstice) as a 500IQ move to give her footsoldiers when she confused the GO by shattering the elden ring

      >mash through all character dialogue, skip all cutscenes, and don't read any loredumps in item descriptions
      >"wtf this game has no story who even are these people"

      >no you don't understand, if you go back to the Sacred Forest and use the "Scratching Balls" gesture at exactly 3:00 AM in front of the second from the left statue AFTER killing Zanzibart but BEFORE killing the Myrmidon of Loss, you'll get the "Mound of Exalted Earwigs Chalice" that you can take to the Roundtable Hold and Zarnubius will tell you that he's paraplegic now

      >Malenia (god tier swordsman who fucked pride Radahn) challenges you, a man with a stick to fight as soon as he sees you
      >Uses power of rot and literally becomes a goddes mid fight
      >Attacks you with flowers, that can nuke whole continent with rot, multiple times
      >Still loses

      >Scarlet Rot can drive you insane and basically is hyper-leprosy that turns you into a husk doomed to wander Caelid for eternity
      >get scarlet rot
      >oops my HP is going down
      >eat a literal random fungus you found on the ground
      >ok im cool now

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm literally, not figurately, retarded
        You could have just said so, anon

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Rot can drive you insane and basically is hyper-leprosy that turns you into a husk doomed to wander Caelid for eternity
        >>get scarlet rot
        >>oops my HP is going down
        >>eat a literal random fungus you found on the ground
        >>ok im cool now
        The player tarnished is special and sees the guidance of grace when all or at least most of the others have lost sight of it. Rogier gets blighted once and fucking dies, but we can walk it off. Same deal with scarlet rot

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        GRRM's involvement is literally why the game is still being talked about. This whole thread literally exists because of people discussing why Rennala's husband left her for his chick half.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > unironically the involvement of GRRM ruined it
        introducing "royal family squabbles and backstabbing" into the story didn't make that mundane shit interesting, it just made the rest of the story feel mundane.
        The royal family squabbling is literally the only part of the story people still give a shit about lmao. The rest of the lore is just a bunch of vague underdeveloped concepts that conflict with each other.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's like if you went on deviantart and pulled the 20 best fantasy artworks and then tried to come up with a story to pull them all together.
      /tg/ does this regularly and with far more skill than Elden Stink

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe if Rennala took her clown hat off, she would look more attractive

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine paying a girl to cosplay as Marika or 2B then take a shit on your chest.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So why did Godfrey and the rest of the tarnished get their grace taken away? When they left did they have some weird tarnished only society?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >When they left did they have some weird tarnished only society
      Yes. That's where the "Warrior" class is from and where Godfrey and Nepheli hail from.
      >A twinblade wielding warrior from a nomadic tribe.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Grace would have killed them. Removing it saved them and granted them a will of their own.
      Godfrey was a hero of old who completed his mission; the immediate next step for the guidance of gold was to just go and die and be eaten by the Erdtree.

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    imagine needing to read 500 forum posts to understand a game's story and then thinking that game was good

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Radagon would make for a good protagonist in a theoretical narrative driven side-stpry.

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >In Marika's own words. O Radagon, leal hound of the Golden Order. Thou'rt yet to become me. Thou'rt yet to become a god. Let us be shattered, both. Mine other self.

    What did she mean by this?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That Radagon was his own being but eventually fused with Marika. Its pretty obvious.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Marika isn't a real being, she's a mimic tear

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That Radagon was his own being but eventually fused with Marika. Its pretty obvious.

      Marika is talking to her schizo alternate personality as they fight over control of her body.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's not a wrong way to interpret it either.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Oh Radagon, you blind fuckin idiot. You're good but you ain't no Marika, you ain't no god. I'll go down but we are going down together"

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Marika already crumbling
    coomer meme gay literally didn't even play the game

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't the Tarnished just leave the Land Between? The Land of Reeds can't be that far and it doesn't have moronmen pulling strings behind the scene.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's shipwrecks all around Lands between

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes and? Just build more boats. There's still plenty of lumber remaining.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They literally did leave the Lands Between, following Godfrey. At least that's what the orginal batch of Tarnished did.
      Everyone who became Tarnished after that is the bunch of idiots chosen by the Greater Will.

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it so hard to believe that Radagon and Marika were separate people but basically shared the same "soul" or being the same "person" in a cosmic sense making up one half of a whole?

    A lot of Japanese media have done that shit both old and new, from Nier's Devola and Popola up to modern anime like Jujutsu Kaisen. It's really nothing new for them.

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no clue OP, i don't know why TINAFATE CATFISHED A LESBIAN MINOR

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fanboys cope about how the game is totally not horrendously unfinished because they can written ten paragraphs of 99% made-up horseshit to explain all the holes in the plot, but the fact remains that the most popular ending route remains Ranni's, which is coincidentally the only one that seems to involve characters with narrative and shit, and rave all about Radhan, whose lore is all completely explicit and most of which is presented in one of those straightforward cutscenes with narration they claim the game is higher-brow for eschewing.

    The reason Ranni has a bunch of dialogue and shit and you'd be forgiven for forgetting Melina exists despite having the obvious closed eye symmetry that's never explained is simple: they cut content like motherfuckers. Same reason the gate to Mohg's palace was in Milenia's backyard and that after you kill Mohg supposedly to get to Miquella, the plotline just ends and you don't even get his Rune from his corpse, if he's even dead at all, and also you never mention any of this to Malenia, who also fights you because randomly trying to murder you specifically is the only thing everyone in this continent seems to agree on.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Same reason the gate to Mohg's palace was in Milenia's backyard
      Mohg used it to kidnap Miquella from the Haligtree, doofus

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How fucking convenient that nobody ever noticed that, right?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The tiny little portal arch hidden away in a corner of the secret pathway to a tree that hardly anyone even knew existed? Yeah crazy that no one stumbled across it I know

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > but the fact remains that the most popular ending route remains Ranni's, which is coincidentally the only one that seems to involve characters with narrative and shit,
    It’s also coincidently the one where you get to become consort to a cute girl. I somehow thinks that may have more to do with it…

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I somehow thinks that may have more to do with it…
      Anon is delusional. Allowing you to actually marry Ranni is definitively the main reason why it's picked so many times. I still remember when other waifufags kept trying to justify their choices in pursuing the other girls whether or not they liked their respective questlines.

      Hell, most Melinafags have switched to the Frenzied Flame ending because it turns her into a yandere that will forever chase you to the ends of the earth.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I did the Frenzied Flame because I honestly believe this world deserves to die.
        And the cool visuals.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean that's fair, but you'd be surprised how many Melinafags switched over to the Frenzied Flame ending over time because it gave her more content and personality in trying to stop you and because you end up saving her from killing herself.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ranni being From's most explicit waifu to date certainly helps things, but I think it matters a lot that she has the only major questline where you constantly visit locations, talk to characters and develop a bond with both them and her before it's over. I think it's one of the reasons people love her but nobody gives a rat fuck about Anri from DS3 despite you marrying her too, her questline seems like the only one where From allowed themselves to stop being so beholden to their paltry, piecemeal quest structure and actually let you fucking talk to someone and learn who they are and what they want

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If Sekiro is any indication, it's probably far less of a design choice than just the fact that the game was clearly rushed as hell. ER feels like they did all the locations and scenery first, and then had to scrape together the actual present-time events while racing the deadlines.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Miquella stinks of this
            you kill Mohg, who says unequivocally that Miquella is sleeping and metamorphosing
            then you just leave him there
            and Gideon leaves you with "idk, we should probably do something about him, maybe kill him? or uhhhhh just leave him
            and the game ends, with Miquella just sitting underground in a spider egg with his hand hanging out

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He's probably going to be the focus of the dlc, he's by far the most interesting demigod and he's the one we know the least about aside from maybe Godwyn

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I hope so. I want his fucking twinblades. Both of them.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              miquella is obvious dlc bait

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm guessing miquella's cocoon will be the entry point of the dlc. Some kind of dream/time/memory thing again, as fromsoftware loves to do.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I like how Gideon's message when you report Malenia's death assumes you haven't found Miquella yet, but it's way easier to get to and kill Mohg first.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He's obviously meant to be the focus of a DLC, but whether that's because they ran out of time to do anything else or if that was always the plan is hard to say. It's wishful thinking but I hope the DLC answers a lot of questions the base game poses instead of going off on some bizarre new tangent that also doesn't get explored thoroughly

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yup, lore trannies trying to pass off nothing as deepest lore

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Marika is good trans representation. Thank you japan

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      By good, as in it's an impossible standard that portrays a chad and a bombshell of a god/goddess instead of an ugly chud, then yeah. Thank you Japan.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >manipulative, backstabbing piece of shit that lords over people and ends up completely undermining and destroying her own society in her blind rage and hubris
      You're right

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >two lgbt characters
      >one goes totally nuts and causes the event that moves the game
      >the other is a literal underground-dwelling pervert that somehow commits both pedophilia and incest because he believes that fucking his kid brother will make him a queen

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hey hey hey, there are three. Marika the schizo chud, Mohg the boywife connoisseur, and the coprophile who wants to rape spirituality itself.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >and the coprophile who wants to rape spirituality itself
          at least dung eater has a similar explanation to the reason why the Headless reaches into your literal asshole in Sekiro

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You know how they set up the thing with the Frenzied Flame people possessing corpses like Shabriri possessing Yura and Hyetta having the exact same model and voice as that chick that dies in Limgrave? But then they did fuck-all with the idea with Hyetta and just left that girl's corpse where it was so they're just perfect dopplegangers for no reason?

    Also remember how Pebbles got a random addition to his quest line where he shows up in a place he has no fucking connection to and gives you a thing to return to Tanith, but just says "I do not need that thing" and that was the end to the quest, and then later they did another addition to his quest that is definitely not them just scraping whatever that was supposed to lend to and instead reusing all the code and locations from the beginning of his quest to just call it quits?

    I don't get why anybody says this game is unfinished.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who's Pebbles

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *Patches. I have no idea why I wrote Pebbles.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They should have removed Irina's corpse and I'm sure that was an oversight, but it the concept wasn't "for no reason" and they did do something important with it: establish that Shabriri is a fucking liar.

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"TARNISHED, WHY DO YOU SEEK THE RUNE OF DEATH?"

    I dunno mang, this chick who lit herself on fire vaguely hinted at it being necessary before dying and also I just showed up here outta nowhere and had no fucking clue that you had it. Frankly, if you had just been like "sup,dude, wat up?" I wouldn't have had the foggiest fucking reason we needed to fight at all.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You need to unseal the rune of death because the erdtree is unharmed by the flames of ruin until you do.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Also, how do I get down from here? And how did you get here to begin with? You're supposed to be the same as Blaidd and he can't teleport wherever he wants either."

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >vaguely hinted at it being necessary
      >"This world is in dire need of death" is vague

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I got here by burning myself though?

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just because too many people are retarded for the existing lore, it doesn't mean the game isn't unfinished. 2 things can be true at the same thing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only unfinished parts are a handful of sidequests that don't have anything to do with the main plot like Tanith, and people keep acting like that means the entire plot of the game is an unfinished mess when it's by far the most complete and clear-cut of any of these games

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >people keep acting like that means the entire plot of the game is an unfinished mess when it's by far the most complete and clear-cut of any of these games
        are you fucking kidding me?
        Bloodborne:
        >solid resolution where it's revealed that in fact the moon presence was controlling everything and the reason the Hunter's Dream exists is because a bunch of quack scientists started transfusing people with eldritch god blood, thus allowing them to see a bizarro realm inhabited by eldritch abominations
        Sekiro:
        >Dragons heritage came from the west, once you uncover all of the necessary steps to access the divine realm, you can learn that you actually have a way to return the dragon's heritage where it came from and balance the forces of life and death again. The Mortal Blades were created as a way to sever immortality should DH ever fall into the hands of someone unprepared to deal with it, but had to be wielded by someone who was immortal so that those unaware of its power could never use it.

        I'll give you Dark Souls since between 2 and 3 it stopped making sense to anyone that wasn't obsessively searching out lore

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wasn't including Sekiro because it's different enough from the rest of them that I don't really consider it part of the "series," but acting like Bloodborne doesn't have tons of cryptic unexplained or poorly explained shit in it is just disingenuous

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Radagon isn't even real, he's a shizo manifestation Marika was cursed with after fighting the fire giants. That's why he has the red hair, mark of the fire giants, that both he and Marika despise. Marika is the "main personality". He's basically Doppio from Jojo.

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How long does it take them to make a fucking DLC anyway
    We're approaching the anniversary of the original launch date before the delay to March and still have basically nothing to go off of besides datamined files that suggest a DLC is in the making

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Took them one year for Artorias of the Abyss, and that's when they didn't really want to make a DLC.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why is Ranni sitting on a CRX?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Melina offers you an accord
        Ranni offers you a CRX
        Choose wisely, tarnished

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i choose huglady

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      2025

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The obvious difference between the game just very plainly laying some things out for you in cinematic and dialogues while leaving extremely important stuff (including just giving supposedly major characters any screentime) to be, ehem, "gleamed" from choppy bits of scattered shit is probably the most hilarious example of why deep lore fanboys claiming these are deliberate design choices are delusional.

    One of my favorite examples if how the singing vulture enemy things actually have coherent lyrics and all. Then a pivotal lore fact relating to the central figure of the setting is delivered via a fucking tooltip located several meters away from the completely useless statue that supposedly held the actual secret. Acting like this was anything but the devs hurriedly stringing together whatever they could at the last minute and that they totally meant it to be like this from the start is just the highest of cope.

    Most quests were literally unfinished on release for fucks' sake. Not broken or bugged, the fucking content wasn't even in the game. For months there were these obviously conHispanicuous, closed structures and that ghost lamenting why the gates wouldn't open for him, and the answer to that mystery ended up being "this was the cut coliseum content we couldn't get ready for release."

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Then a pivotal lore fact relating to the central figure of the setting is delivered via a fucking tooltip located several meters away from the completely useless statue that supposedly held the actual secret.
      Turtle Pope tells you that the statue of Radagon in Leyndell harbors a secret, and when you find Corhyn and Goldmask in Leyndell Corhyn tells you that Goldmask's autism discovered Radagon's name in whatever he's doing and it brought him to a standstill. It's not just random happenstance or impossible to figure out

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What a shock, a fanboy that likes to claim people don't pay attention can't even read plain English.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What a shock, a pearl clutching discord chud is making mountains out of molehills to frame the entire game as directionless gobbeldymoron

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cope harder, your head still so far up your arse you can't even read properly.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I can read just fine, you're just spouting bullshit so most of it isn't worth addressing

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Just because you can't make sense of it, doesn't mean it's unfinished. That's just poor literacy on your part.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Turtle Pope tells you that the statue of Radagon in Leyndell harbors a secret, and when you find Corhyn and Goldmask in Leyndell Corhyn tells you that Goldmask's autism discovered Radagon's name in whatever he's doing and it brought him to a standstill
        yeah, the path to uncovering lore reads like a fucking Holders story
        >on the fifth night of the second week of the year on a bloodmoon, travel to the nearest bus station and ask the attendant if he knows of a place you can stay the night. He will respond "I have, but only for those who seek the Old Truth." He will open a door for you, you must enter it backwards. If you hear someone whisper "so sad that Steve Jobs died of Ligma" DO NOT respond to them. You will bump into an archaic double door. Peer through the mail slot, and someone will hand you an airplane bottle of Maker's Mark. Drink half of it, then pour the rest on the ground, whispering "for those who have not yet learned to see" in French. If done correctly, a trapdoor will open for you, and you will fall for so long that you go unconscious. When you awake, there will be seven Shiba Inu's standing near you. One will hold a scroll. Pick up this scroll, but don't read it. Exit the room that you're in and walk up a set of stairs, only using the steps that correspond to prime numbers. When you open the door at the top, you'll notice that the scroll has turned into a McDouble. Eat exactly half of it. The half that remains is the "Holder of the End"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >a character tells you a statue of a major character holds a secret
          >in the area the statue is in, two characters you've met before mention that major character's name stopping their progress
          >find statue of major character, a message directly in front of it says the name of a spell that you can buy from the characters just mentioned
          >said spell's description says it dispels all illusions and trickery
          >cast spell that reveals illusions in front of statue that you were told hides a secret in order to reveal the secret
          It's a bit of a thread but it's nowhere near as complicated as you're pretending it is

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What the fuck does that have to do with the thing you quoted?

        >Turtle Pope tells you that the statue of Radagon in Leyndell harbors a secret

        Yes, that's the point, you moron. Turn out the statue DOESN'T hold a secret, because the secret is instead spelled out by a random tooltip close to it. Which is so obviously not the way the game presents fucking everything else that it was clearly not how that was meant to go, but it was so obviously the result of rushed development that they probably hacked that together in rush instead of doing whatever they originally meant to do with the actual statue.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You cast a spell that dispels illusions in front of a statue of Radagon, and that statue physically transforms into a statue of Marika. The opening cutscene shows Marika smashing the elden ring and then immediately after it shows Radagon in the same position in the same spot trying to repair it. You see Marika transform into Radagon in the final boss fight. Melina quotes Marika to you, calling Radagon "mine other self." The developer message is there to spell it out for braindead slackjawed retards like you who couldn't put two and two together even after all of that

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Player tooltip. Cope.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Dismissive handwave. Cope.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you deliberately missing the point?

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't imagine why anybody would think Elden Ring is unfinished. From has such a spotless record of totally never delivering unfinished shit with reams of stuff obviously chopped together at the last minute.

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    What did he mean by this bros?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      for me, the Fire Emblem thread was above this one
      maybe he clicked the wrong OP

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Regarding the Pope Turtle-Radagon-Goldmask questline, I don't get why people would want lore drops explained outright without your own investment or input in actually pursuing these quests and lorebits. It makes the world feel more authentic in actually forcing you to engage with it in pursuing this knowledge instead of just being spoonfed to you on a silver platter in some obligatory cutscene.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The fanboy is pretending that the game wasn't rushed as hell and deliberately missing the fact that "random player message spelling out vital setting details in plain language" was clearly not a result of deliberate planning. Everything else is diversion.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      well there's no existing lore in the game in the first place, so that's kind of a problem

  68. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does Radagon get shit on for marrying Marika, but no one cares that Marika ditched Brofrey for Radagon?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because it was apart of their long term plan to defeat their ultimate tree god
      radagon just simply got tired of rennala

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As far as everyone else knows Radagon left his wife for Marika for basically no reason, meanwhile Marika calls the shots and laid out the Elden Lord scheme as a challenge to Godfrey/Hoarah Loux and the rest. It's also stated a fair number of times Radagon and Rennala's marriage was a very happy one until he left, and he's apparently still attached enough to her that he reforged the Moonlight Greatsword wedding gift from her into the Elden Ring themed greatsword.

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >man there must be some deep lore as to why there's Radagon's red wolf in raya lu-
    SYKE
    THATS ANOTHER CHANGED CONTENT LMAO

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's not even all
      >most characters have different VAs in the Network Test - 4 months before release
      >scarlet rot didn't even fucking exist then
      >1.0 rot lake has completely different enemies, unique types of Ancestor Followers that are absent from the current game
      and more
      they probably quickly changed shit like 2-3 months before game released and this is how we got this culsterfuck

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The fact that a game nominally about becoming king to supposedly unfuck the setting doesn't have a single plotline about doing anything about the red supercancer is another stone leftover mess.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          None of them fix deathblight either, the world is fucked in every scenario

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you were willing to give the game way more credit than it deserves, you could argue that restoring the Rune of Death should fix that one. Although a better presented story would have actually addressed that detail at least once.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It wouldn't fix it because Godwyn's body is still alive, it's his soul that's dead and his half-alive body is still poisoning the erdtree and spreading around the world through its roots

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                was gonna say it can be handwaved by claining unsealing death enforces the natural order and causes godwyn to die a true death but then I remembered ranni's still alive so fuck the lore

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're both only half dead and it's as a result of artificial fuckery with the laws of reality so it's unclear what would happen to them

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Radagon's pet wolf is left in Rennala's care
      That's changed content that actually makes more sense though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >my fire spewing chalicehead warpriest pet can't be this cute

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >she kept the dog in the divorce

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You just know.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Now you made it all weird and I'm uncomfortable.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why that pet wolf is also a regular enemy in underground river areas, liurnia, consecrated snowfield and a boss in hero's grave?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because more than one of them exist and Radagon tamed one?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            so basically you will just keep making headcanon to fill in retarded gaps and justify every single thing, huh

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What "retarded gaps" are left by there being big dog enemies in the game

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Are you implying it's strange that more than 1 dog of a breed exists?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The problem is that all of the other dogs share the same model which has some garden gnomeelry that implies the dog was owned by Renala and Radagon.

            If they made a model without the garden gnomeelry, it wouldn't be a problem, but they didn't and just reused the model.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's that every single dog uses the same magic and animations, they aren't unique at all

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The snowfield and the tree are a shelter for refugees and absolutely, positively not just a cheap excuse to populate them with reused enemies because the deadlines were getting tight at the time.

          Just like how the Skeletal Star Bullshit Mosquito that supposedly fucked up the eternal cities and is clearly supposed to be unique has a random identical cousin just chilling in a random mine.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The snowfield and the tree are a shelter for refugees
            That is literally their defined purpose in the game and the enemies you find there are explicitly described as persecuted untermensch so I don't know why you're being smarmy about it

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              wow fromsoft literally created lore to reuse assets

              I'm impressed

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Every developer in the world reuses assets

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                every developer creates lore as an excuse to copy paste enemies?

                I'm impressed

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, almost none of them do which is why it's nice when one actually does for a change

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                fromsoft is so based because they're lazy as fuck but they make excuses for it

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you capable of seething any harder or is this you topped out

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm seething? I'm jsut happy there's finally a dev that can admit they're lazy as fuck and people still gargle their balls

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, but they at least don't write bullshit ""lore"" to justify the reuse. Most either don't draw any attention to it or it's just part of the game design

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would you rather they not give an in universe reason for it? Seems silly to me

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If they do it's bad, if they don't it's bad. No, the problem isn't between the keyboard and the chair, why do you ask?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If it's bad either way then quit bitching about it

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because you draw attention to blatant reuse and if that reuse isn't satisfactory, it becomes a bigger negative than if you hadn't written faggy lore to explain it.

                It's like an 80s Action flick foreshadowing or explaining why a car exploded after a crash.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm happy to know that you decide for us all what is and isn't satisfactory

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I guess those unexplained Night Cavalry Ringwraith ripoffs are also Untermensch

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Miquella and Malenia were part of the Golden Order and they have lordsworn under their command that presumably followed them to the Haligtree when they forsook the GO

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Your obsessive whiteknighting for a company with a long and storied history of not finishing thing in time is noted.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ya blew it champ

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your obsession with shitting on that company for every teeny tiny little thing as though each one is some colossal fuckup that will surely tank the studio this time is noted

  70. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Marika will never be a woman.

  71. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want a dlc of Caelid before it was fucked.
    I also want a dlc of the Lands Between being super fucked by Madness and Scarlet Rot.

  72. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want more lore on the Unalloyed Gold.
    Did everyone just use gold alloys the entire time since gold itself was scarse?
    Is the Haligtree planted over a giant gold deposit or some shit?

  73. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Actually it's not the issue of content reuse.
    It's WHICH content is re-used.

    I'm fine with caves having bears, wolves etc. and enemies that make sense.

    But when you have a shitty cave with a fucking Fallingstar Beast that has no business being there, i start to raise my eyebrows.

    Hell, fucking Skyrim caves are more immersive and lore accurate than Elden Shit where it's arcadey piece of gamified content with grace at the start and convenient teleport at the end to take you back after you are done with "Piece of Content (TM)" as approved by some suit exec.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Todd is the master of open world, Fromsoft has the closed level design nailed.

  74. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like how Malenia has a move to disengage in order to preserve her posture, except that since in this game bosses recover posture so slowly (do they even recover it at all?) that it doesn't make any difference and she has way better ways to stop your attacks anyway. Not to mention the consequence of a posture break is just a critical hit with milquetoast damage that's lower than a Bleeding proc.

    Because she definitely isn't a sloppily reused asset swap of another katana-wielding lady from a different game starring a guy with an artificial arm against whom posture-preserving disengages actually made any fucking sense. FromSoft never cuts content and chops it up together later, that's just crazy talk.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Malenia in the game was actually toned down from how they initially designer her. She originally had two different waterfowl dances and she could also block your attacks (there are youtube videos showing it), I assume there are leftover animations from that

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They clearly forgot what game they were making and went full Jap design

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She clearly had to be nerfed since she was obviously intended for Wolf to fight, and Wolf actually has counters to her crap. And even then they were sloppy with it. For instance, there's the fact that she can cancel out of a stagger, which is bullshit in Elden Ring, but would be fine in Sekiro since Wolf can also cancel out of attacks to deflect. Waterfowl was obviously just a souped up One Mind you were intended to deflect, none of this "dodge towards the camera then away from it" bullshit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Her old AI is much more in line with a Sekiro boss than an Elden Ring or Dark Souls boss, yeah. There's videos of the 1.0 version of the game that showcase all her old behavior, and even in the final game the description for "Waterfowl Dance" makes more sense with the now-unused one than it does with the used one.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah the other one was called Malenia's Blade or something like that and she did it along the ground instead of leaping through the air

  75. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >get destroyed by malenia on NG+6, have to try for almost an hour to beat her
    >fast forward to me doing a normal playthrough rushing to the bosses
    >easily beat her first try at lvl 85
    Moments when you realized you gotted gud

  76. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >he came to these lands at the head of a great golden host
    what does this mean

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's just Ye Olde Speak for "he came here to liurnia at the head of the golden order's army."

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ahh maybe. I was reading it like he came to the lands between as a whole

  77. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The total number of demigods is another thing the game barely touches on. Judging by info from gideon, enia, bernahl, vyke, etc. there were a bunch of demigods out there we don't know, with great runes of their own. Also, each walking mausoleum houses a "soulless demigod", apparently one of many to die on the same night as godwyn. And apparently in the same way, soul but not body. Which also connects to the mausoleum knights, and the eclipse ritual that miquella apparently tried to bring about for godwyn. Jesus christ, that's a lot

    There really is a lot of confusing and vague stuff in this game but I love it all

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Many of them had children that we don't hear about, we know Godrick is a descendant of Godwyn and Rykard had god knows how many mutant snake bastard children so I'd imagine several of the others also had kids and those kids had kids and most of them just weren't very important

  78. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Quick reminder that the game was originally about the great runes. Not just "rune of godrick" bullshit we had
    >the rune decay for malenia
    >rune of abundance for miquella
    >rune of connection for godrick
    >miquella quest with miquella credited 5 months before release
    >the ability to channel the runes power
    Well, for some reason they decided to not use the fucking thing the very game was named after

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bit more than they could chew
      >covid fucking every dev out there
      >their first open world game
      it's a miracle it actually works

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The fact that there's no in-game reason to actually gather all the runes is another obvious dead end. Lorefags can fanwank all they want about "you're securing your future rule from challengers!" or whether, but it's an obvious mechanic they dropped.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Seriously I thought the game would be about collecting the runes but you can just rush to Leyndell and collect only Morgott's if you want lol

        How the fuck do you even make the elden ring like that

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          YOU KIL LTHE SPACE ALIEN
          IT'S THE BESY GAM EVEER MADE SHUDDAFUKUP

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can't get into Leyndell without getting two other shards first, you didn't play the game

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can't enter the capital without 2 great runes iirc, unless you use some kind of exploit. Maybe activating the elevator on the divine tower, or something. Through normal play, any player should have at least 3 great runes when beating the game

            Ok I actually didn't know that, still dumb the runes aren't a requirement to make the elden ring and instead they put a wall in your way for no reason.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Technically you can enter Leyndell through the teleporter trap in the Weeping Peninsula, but you can't actually reach the capital proper with it.
              In lore the reason you need 2 great runes to explore the capital is because the Two Fingers itself is blocking the two ways into the actual city, as it wants you to 'prove yourself worthy' before you can reach the throne.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You get transported there via a trapped chest. Get an invader to raise the lift for you.
            The "barrier" is just that, a flimsey door at the service entrance.
            Golden Godfrey can be your first boss if you want.
            Looks like you didn't play the game enough.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can't enter the capital without 2 great runes iirc, unless you use some kind of exploit. Maybe activating the elevator on the divine tower, or something. Through normal play, any player should have at least 3 great runes when beating the game

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its just crazy that they couldn't even be bothered to actually give some flavor text to the runes like "this is the rune of decay, it controls the cycle of decay that affects all things" ot something like that. Especially considering that was the original plan for the runes. There is literally nothing to the runes. They are just some random pieces for the elden ring. Except for the rune of the unborn and the rune of the death. THOSE do something. For some reason. Well, originally it was planned that you could channel all the runes through your blade.

  79. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly I always got the vibe that he never had a choice. Radagon seems to have been fond of his first wife, he still kept the sword Rennala gave him which is her version of a wedding ring, but he's also defined by his dogmatic loyalty to the Golden Order. When Marika started pushing back on the Greater Will, Radagon was called back to keep an eye on her because he's their loyal dog and he'll do anything they ask no question.

  80. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Marika is a dirty homewrecker.

  81. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My ex gf once wore my clothes, even my ballcap which i used to wear often and started to speak like me as a goof. I never had been harder. I fucked her there and then. The more she spoke like me and moaned the hotter it was.

  82. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've always had the opinion his "love" was just an act. He worked his way into her heart, made Renala love him so deeply, and left her so brutally, just to destroy Caria. He'd lost 2 wars against her and couldn't win through force, so he won through charm. Truly devious. I think Radagon is legit the biggest Golden Order simp willing to do anything at the behest of his God. Marika saw the damage of the Greater Will preying upon the people of Earth and the Lands and sacrifices everything to free all life from the grasp of the Gods. In the end she succeeded and it was left to us to write a new order. In her eyes, nothing could be worse than being a slave to the divine. In Radagon's nothing could be better.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      extremely based take but the queer folk at fanfiction co will not like it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's why I prefer Radagon.

      If Marika and Radagon are the same person then why does Radagion oppose us at the end of the game and try to fix the ring? If Radagon is a different form of Marika or created by her, why did she do that?

      Even if the theory that they were the same person is as literal as it sounds, split-personalities aren't exactly new in fiction, anon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not even the poopoo peepee ending?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thats just returning chimerism to the world as it was when the Crucible was dominant. Its just filtered through the Narrator's lens as a "curse". The Knot talismans say Omenhood was once considered a blessing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if melina really is some part of marika's psyche then she at the very least puts it above the yellow flame

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this is the bluepilled lorelet take, you're correct about Radagon being a GO simp though

  83. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If Marika and Radagon are the same person then why does Radagion oppose us at the end of the game and try to fix the ring? If Radagon is a different form of Marika or created by her, why did she do that?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're physically and maybe spiritually the same/connected, but Radagon still exists as an entity distinct from Marika, one who still adheres firmly to the Golden Order and wants to defend it at all costs. We don't know why she did it, but if you figure he was created by Marika, she likely split the aspect of herself that was willing to adhere to the GO off to do it's own thing so she could focus on subverting the GO and setting up her plan to fuck over the Greater Will

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >she likely split the aspect of herself that was willing to adhere to the GO off to do it's own thing so she could focus on subverting the GO and setting up her plan to fuck over the Greater Will
        Yeah, this is how I've always taken it and why the Greater Will beckoned Radagon to return and fuse with her.

  84. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Carians were uberchads that made everyone their bitch until Rennala jobbed to Radagon's dick
    Fuck the golden order, moonchads rise up.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >got into a stalemate in a conflict with the local town guards
      ayy lmao

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >got into a stalemate in a conflict with the local town guards
      ayy lmao

      Radagon is my favorite but I'll admit this shit always made me laugh.

  85. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why doesn’t Ranni tell her mom that she’s alive and married before she leaves with you?
    Why can’t you take Rennala with you?

  86. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Radagon never cared about Rennala, and only wanted access to sorcery and to sabotage a potential threat. His icon even says that he only did it because he felt incomplete, the prospector mask says he stamped down on sorcerers, and the telescope even says that carian astrology was withering into nothing under his reign.
    The rune of the unborn might be a mistranslation, it might mean a rune of "a" unborn god, as in singular.

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