>You are a cipher, forming bonds, leeching the life of others, siphoning their will and dominating them.

>You are a cipher, forming bonds, leeching the life of others, siphoning their will and dominating them.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When Traya gives you the opportunity to kill all your companions for an xp boost before fighting her.
    Just beat the game another time last night and I already want to roll another character.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you stop to free your friends at Traya's Academy, you can kill them all for xp instead.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Your friends are in there? Even on Easy with a dw build that tore through Assassins it was such a goddamn slog I tried to get through it as quickly as possible

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that only happens in restored content iirc
      without restored content trayus academy is just like 2 hours of rooms full of enemies

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kotor 2 is a rushed and unfinished mod of Kotor 1 filled with pretentious writing that a certain fanbase rabidly and devoutly claims is the pinnacle of video games.

        Also Taris > Peragus II. Peragus II was SHIT. SHIT.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >hurr durr i dont understand the game therefore its le pretentious
          ok gay

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            i understand the game. avellone is a sperg who wants to critique the binary star wars morality system so he wrote a story where the evil characters treat you better than the good characters. this is subversive and interesting please clap.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >the evil characters treat you better
              Name one

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sion hate-simps for female exile

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                kreia
                inb4 hurr durr keria isn't evil

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Kreia spends the whole game lecturing and critcising you and if you kill the Masters she flat out calls you a failure

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What about Sion hating your guts because you're something he could never be? What about Darth Nihilus wanting to destroy everything because he has completely been overtaken by the power of the Dark Side and is thus a bottomless pit that needs to continually feed with no autonomy present? What about a lot of other NPCs in the game who dislike you and treat you like shit for being a part of the Mandalorian wars?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I understand the game perfectly well since I'm incapable of thinking for myself and get all my opinions from a Mongolian basketweaving BBS
              Why don't you just write that to begin with next time?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Peragus was better the first few times through, Taris is better after because it just oozes nostalgia for me tbh

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            taris is kino
            I can only understand not liking some of the sewer parts

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Paraguay was unironically the best and most compelling part of the entire kotor series.

          Anyone who disagrees is either an ADHD zoomer or a homosexual or both.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's one of the best written intros to a game I've ever seen.
            fuckin HK droids man

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Everyone always shits on Peragus when the real annoying bottleneck of KOTOR 2 early game was and always has been Telos, it's fucking ass and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              The only bad part of Telos is the surface and even it isn't that long, Citadel Station is fun and if you know what you're doing it's pretty quick. You can get through both in half and hour each.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Telos
              Eh at least it has several interesting questlines and ways to proceed. Getting your own pet stripper was cool.
              Also, I remember that going Dark Side with the Ithorians was kino

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Horrible opinions.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          no

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          yes

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            no

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Kotor 2 is just a more enjoyable game in every way save for the loot system.
          I beat Kotor 1 twice in 04 then again in 10. Never felt the need to play it again.
          I play Kotor II every Christmas season.
          Better atmosphere, better characters. Better gameplay

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What's wrong with the loot? NTA, but that's one of my favourite things about Kotor2

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The loot system is a massive improvement, you can end up getting powerful gear by the end of Telos (sometimes on Peragus if you're particularly lucky) which can kickstart a playthrough, or you can end up with odd gear that forces you to use different equipment than you normally would. At the same time the inclusion of the crafting and upgrade system and the increased power and damage of feats and equipment across the board means you're never stuck requiring one particular bit of gear like the first game.

            If you do need specific equipment for your build it's almost always very easy to savescum for it if you know what you're doing

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I play KotOR II every Christmas season
            Based and same, there's just something about it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I used to play these games every year but now I give it a few years in between so it's somewhat fresh again
            I really don't think I'll ever get sick of them

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >with pretentious writing that a certain fanbase rabidly and devoutly claims is the pinnacle of video games.
          Filtered

          Besides, it brought gameplay refinements and had deeper interactions with your companions compared to KOTOR I. You don't have to be so butthurt about it being better.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the good ending is fucked.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >good ending
        evil "the best ending"

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    vrook was a virgin

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah that's an epic fail

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >be Vrook
      >figure out how to use force to coom hands free whenever you want
      >always cooming, all the time
      >never have to deal with w*men
      >have to wear diaper to catch coom so it doesn't show on your robes
      >develop prostate problems due to near-constant ejaculation
      >go to Jedi urologist
      >tells you that you need to dial it back
      >didn't hear the doctor because too busy cooming again
      >doctor has to clean it off the wall

      Sounds pretty based ngl

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's a part of being in the order. Revan and Darth Vader just broke the rules because muh reasons.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Order is against attachements. Nothing about one night stands.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      vrook was gay

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ok whatever die old gay

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dominates him to my will

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      OH N-

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are a few frames of damage numbers. Just highlights the importance of crit immunity.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >not stealth chugging every stim and shielding from the menu just before it starts combat
      Imagine being this bad at the game.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >stealth chugging every stim and shielding from the menu

        I really hate that the game just seems to except you to cheese like this, but it's a massive problem with D&D combat (and truth be told really most RPG systems generally) that you have hundreds of different possible buffs you can cast but 99% of the time just doing the default attack is more beneficial since buffs usually take a combat round

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          something i really hate is how your buffs still countdown during cutscenes, meaining it's always beneficial to skip pre/mid battle dialog
          you can even cheese this by casting valor then rushing through the dialog to pass skillchecks

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      literally how, I went full INT melee build and never had any issues

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Even cheesing the game I've found that if you go to Dantooine first, he's fucking unstoppable.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          He's a character imported from KOTOR 1, of course he's gonna retain the choices and build he has from there with extra buffs added on

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Vrook is absolutely busted because he’s a pure Strength build that uses the Ataru Lightsaber form. Unless you have high Strength or Wisdom, or you can get some good Sneak Criticals in on him, you practically have to cheese Vrook with explosives. I feel he’s by far the hardest boss in the game.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Vrook is probably the only truly hard boss in all of K2

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I always run to the right and chug stims and place mines
      anticlimactic but I never managed to kill him normaly

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, Vrook is unbalanced as fuck compared to other Jedi Masters

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Damn I had no idea Vrook was that strong need to do a dark side playthrough soon

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I KNEW I COULDN'T HAVE BEEN THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT HE WAS WAY STRONGER THAN ALL THE OTHER JEDI MASTERS
      I mine spammed to beat him, not gonna lie

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It isn't wise to upset a Wuncler

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        hoooooly shit how did i never catch this

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          took me forever to realize that too

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any dark side tips for a kotor 1 impossible difficulty playthrough?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know what Impossible Difficulty entails but it's just barely possible to play Hard Difficulty as a dark side force user so I'd recommend going all in on melee (or ranged if that's viable)

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it's just barely possible to play Hard Difficulty as a dark side force user
        Why?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You can completely BTFO regular enemies easily but Malak is extremely resistant to force powers and all the best +WIS gear is locked to the light side. If you go all in on being a force user and use Valor + Plague you can just barely land force powers on Malak ~40% of the time. I imagine Impossible difficulty would make him even more resistant.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Right. I forgot I always spam stims + force speed on Malak. Reminds me that grenades are almost completely useless in the 2nd game because all of the old grenades still have the same saving throw numbers but all of the enemies have way higher stats so they'll never roll their effects starting pretty early in the game.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Item DCs are fucked in general in Kotor2. The grey Exile crystal gives a Force Resist bonus which does literally nothing because every single enemy in the game has a high enough natural score to overcome it on a roll of 1.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I actually made a mod to "fix" this (every 2 points in Demolitions adds +1 to all grenade DCs) but I have the GOG version so I have no idea where to upload it.

              Item DCs are fucked in general in Kotor2. The grey Exile crystal gives a Force Resist bonus which does literally nothing because every single enemy in the game has a high enough natural score to overcome it on a roll of 1.

              The worst example of this is weapon upgrades, basically all the upgrades that give Stun or Slow chance are worthless for the reason you stated. I think there's a Lightsaber crystal that has a knockdown DC of 10 or something when you can't even make a Lightsaber until around level 12. They really needed to scale these things based on stats or something, it's like the game was balanced around kotor 1's leveling system.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You could probably just slap it on modDB or the steam workshop.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >it's like the game was balanced around kotor 1's leveling system.
                It might have been. I had the game's official strategy guide and I remember many, many sections that seemed to imply that the game's loot wasn't randomized at all. It also made certain fights seem way harder or easier than they actually were. I have a feeling a lot of the leveling and loot stuff was changed last minute.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I actually made a mod to "fix" this (every 2 points in Demolitions adds +1 to all grenade DCs) but I have the GOG version so I have no idea where to upload it.
                you can still upload mods to a game you didnt own on steam workshop i think but otherwise you could upload it to deadlystream thats where most of the mods for kotor are hosted.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a shame Mark Griskey never got to write anything close to K2's soundtrack ever again

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How did a vidya composer manage to make a soundtrack that sounds more authentically Star Wars than the actual sequel trilogy did?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Mark Griskey is a classically trained composer, and a longtime Star Wars and John Williams fan. Go figure As for ST, pretty sure Williams didn't care much.
        Although I have to admit I have a soft spot for K1 soundtrack; it's kinda un-Star Warsy at times, but that's what makes it so cool.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        he cared
        you can even see him in some youtube comments for the kotor 2 ost talking about recording and composing and stuff

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Williams reportedly had no fucking clue what the themes were supposed to be for, and neither did the directors. The themes aren't meant to fit anything but the most generic of concepts, because nobody knew what the music was supposed to reflect.
        He just sent them out and they crowbarred them in, because disney never gave a shit about the music, only having the name John Williams attached to it.

        Contrast it to the OT and PT, where Lucas had a finished product to go over with Williams, so they could make it as appropriate as possible.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is really obvious when you listen to Rise of Skywalker's soundtrack as its own thing. It sounds like it belongs in a completely different movie.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the best track in the whole OST
      really hits hard when you meet the masters for the last time

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      God i love that track

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dammit time for another run any goods builds that will provide a new experience

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Full unarmed crew with bao-dur and handmaiden

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sentinel blaster build is extremely flexible. The basics are
        >you can safely dump STR so you get 14 in all other categories
        >put points into CON until 18 then all in DEX
        >get close combat feats before they disappear with prestige class
        >dark side has better synergy so marauder or assassin
        >master two weapon fighting, precise shot, etc.
        >works with or without armor, plan powers accordingly
        End goal is two heavily modified blasters but early game you have to take whatever you can get. This build benifits more than most from actually paying attention to the workbench and creating/using mods. You get a ton of skill points and with security and computer usage you can put whoever you want in your party comfortably. The even stat spread into charisma and wisdom gives you decent force power usage which is probably best used with support abilities lie speed and valor or utility like Insanity if going Assassin, you don't need damage that's where your blasters come in.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the ending cutscene where you fly away in the Ebon Hawk into unknown space to chase after Revan with this somber tune playing in the background
      Unbelievably kino, still moves me almost 20 years later

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Vrook, you're in kotor 1, it's not your time to die yet.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Race: Human
    >Sex: Male
    >Class: Jedi Guardian
    >Alignment: Light
    >Saber color: Blue
    >Saber number: One
    >Party: Redeemed Atton. Astromech Droid
    There is no gaming. Only the force

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Race: Twilek (Red)
      >Sex: Female
      >Class: Jedi Sentinel
      >Alignment: Dark
      >Saber color: Red
      >Saber number: Two
      >Party: HK-47, Hanharr
      There is no gaming. Only the COOM

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      /I mis kyle katarn and jedi outcast...
      I wish I could play something with jedi knight gameplay and mechanics, but as kyle katarn or obiwan.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a way to go dark side and still have Kreia be proud of you?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Kreia
      >Proud

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        she respects you if you say you'll use the blind slut to find her master if I recall

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        she's genuinely thankful if Lightside Exile fulfills her fantasy of offering her a last minute redemption

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        well she did say that she wouldve killed the galaxy to preserve the exile.
        if that wasnt pride then idk what is

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >wanting Kreia's approval
      Way to miss the point of the game's story

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just do what she asks and recruit all the Masters.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you kill any of the masters you fail her completely and utterly.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does anything different happen if you only kill some of the masters and spare others?
    I always either kill them or spare them all.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      when you meet the remaining masters on dantooine they accuse you of killing the other and attack, the the regular dark side ending plays out
      no idea why they don't suspect you of killing vash

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      sparing two and killing one or doing anything but saving everyone leads to dark side shit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      basically the same as ds

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >year of our lord 2022
    >they still haven't done a pew pew run

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    what did obsidian have against the jedi? they made them out of character

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Did you even watch the prequels

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, and I don't see them trying to kill you after saving them

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't see them trying to kill you after saving them

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >is evil because... he saw the future

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Anakin? Yes, that's his entire fall to the Dark Side.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              He wanted to join a Fallen Jedi (Dooku) and kill his comrades just to save his own skin. This included Jedi and clones he had a disdain for. Since his superior constantly mentions the future is in motion he wasn't able to see the force being restored to balance and Luke.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well you're balding!

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stinky femcel.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do you think she ever got her handmaidens to service her pussy while she thought of the Exile haha

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jedi have no such feelings yes

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They call her mistress and all live in seclusion so I don't doubt it. Atris is probably a pretty angry lover so it's a good thing the handmaidens are athletic tomboys.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Absolutely. Especially since dialogue implies she was in love with you even as a female Exile, she was just more repressed about it. Plus, living alone with all those identical-looking sisters for years? It would be impossible not to.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        She absolutely rode handmaiden face nightly while seething over Jedi Jesus abandoning her. Hell, when you get your old lightsaber back you should make sure it hasn't pickled. Those Sith Holocrons probably recorded days of footage by the time you first show up.

        If you romance Brienna, Kreia also gets to feel the pleasure of cumming inside her own daughter through your force-bond.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder the Exile jobbed to some random sith and died as a mindless Revan fangirl.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I refuse to acknowledge "Bioware's seethe made manifest as an MMO" as anything other than them throwing a hissy fit over KOTOR 2.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Star wars canon is retarded and confusing so who cares when it's full of fan-fiction-tier garbage.

      I refuse to acknowledge "Bioware's seethe made manifest as an MMO" as anything other than them throwing a hissy fit over KOTOR 2.

      I don't doubt that they were seething, but I think it was less malice and more them legit being just terrible writers that made the midwits over at obsidian look like accomplished authors

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was a combination of both. I'm sure even with the best of intentions Bioware would've fucked it up with sheer incompetence, but the main reason it's as bad as it is is because the ""author"" in question was and still is eternally seething about Obsidian doing a better job of writing his own characters than he could. The 'Exile' might as well be a completely different character since the author was too stupid to understand everything about her unique situation and powers, all the companions from II and most of those from I get completely forgotten about, Revan goes from being a supposed strategic genius and Force prodigy (which is established in I) to acting like a complete idiot, because the guy was so desperate to ruin everything from II he didn't care about destroying his own characters at the same time. Revan is an even more beloved character in the fanbase than the Exile, so killing him off in a completely retarded fashion all so that (you) could selfinsert as the guy who fixes everything in the upcoming MMO was not a popular decision, to put it lightly.

        It's a tremendous shame considering how well II understood and respected the first game and how II went as far as establishing a perfect psetup for a third game. Anyone with the slightest bit of sense or professionalism would've handled it better, hell your average KorOR II fan from back then would've handled it better.

        tl;dr Drew deserves to get spat on for as long as he lives for being responsible for that book

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >your average KorOR II fan from back then
          Shut up, Tsig

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'd lick Tsig's pussy ngl

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You'll lick Freedon Nadd's taint and thank him for it

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, maybe apart from that guy, I agree.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Female Exile is a war criminal.
          >A hardned veteran who realized in order to end the Mandalorian wars. They had to commit a near genocide
          >The backlash through the force was so intense they lose their connection for a time
          >Can RP them as not regretting it, being remorseful, or justifying it to everyone around them
          >Be mildy interested when they're mentioned in TOR
          >Have a small interest in how they'd play around with the above ideas
          >Fast forward to me doing the quest
          >She just talks about how cool Revan is
          >MFW
          I was never a mass effect fan, but watching Bioware fuck this up made me feel for them. I understand now.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The backlash through the force was so intense they lose their connection for a time
            The Exile cut themselves off

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Because the only other options were to die or go completely insane.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nihilus isn't insane he's just a hungry boy

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Perfectly sane

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Being turned into an insatiable void in the Force wouldn't turn Zayne Carrick insane, anon

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Being turned into an insatiable void in the Force wouldn't turn Zayne Carrick insane, anon
                kek explain this one

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                There's a theory that the protagonist of the Old Republic comic book series eventually became Darth Nihilus. I don't buy it, personally.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Zayne's Carrick power was basically being an idiot savant with luck powers iirc, nihillus had a wholly different powerset

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >final story arc, for no good reason, puts him into the Republic Navy in a position that would absolutely get him sent to Malachor in Revan's purge of Navy and Jedi who wont play ball
                >his power of good and bad luck swinging back and forth would cancel itself out catastrophically in allowing him to survive the Mass Shadow Generator but becoming something he would absolutely despise being
                >with no formal training and still being a young man he wouldn't have had the experience or the willpower to forcibly cut himself off from the Force to survive like Exile did

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Only it's also established in KOTOR 2 that Nihilus was a "normal" Sith before becoming the hungry boy.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Being turned into an insatiable void in the Force wouldn't turn Zayne Carrick insane, anon
                kek explain this one

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Nihilus isn't insane
                [unintelligble whispering]

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Nihilus isn't insa-

                *randomly force chokes you*

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's the most disappointing thing about it all. The two games were great and the setting itself had so much potential, especially with the more nuanced writing and deeper introspection of the second game; there was so much opportunity to explore either where the games left off or new stories in a similar way to the first two. Instead, we were robbed of a sequel in favour of an MMO that couldn't get even the most basic things right. If it wasn't so disappointing it would be almost impressive how badly such an established developer could fuck up a project with so much effort and money poured into it, at a time where even an adequate Star Wars MMO would've been a powerhouse.

            If it makes you feel any better, the author who fucked everything up for KotOR is the same one who worked on the first game wrote the original outline for the ME trilogy that MEfags are always clamouring about, so I doubt it would've ended up any better even as intended. If there's one thing it reinforced to me, it's how much of an absolute fluke the first KotOR was from Bioware.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing made after ~2010 is canon.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i will never learn about meetra surik

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It sucks knowing we'll never get a true KOTOR 3 and that even if we did it'd be heavily watered down and filtered by Disney's corporate higher-ups and the absolute scum that are investors and shareholders.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      At least they canned the remake

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        From what I've seen the remake seems to be going in the VTMB 2 direction, I,E actual vaporware that will never come out

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think Kotor 3 would have been disappointing.

      Kotor 2 sets up a lot of intrigue but paying that off would be hard and it's easy to see how they could have fucked up revan's character or forgot to have real themes in their game about stopping the big bad sith empire.

      Also if it had been greenlit it would have been developed at the transition between console generations which means learning new technology (although honestly I'd be happy with a Kotor 3 made in the Odyssey engine since I think the kotor games still look quite nice).

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I think the kotor games still look quite nice
        Personally I don't mind, but it'd look like hot garbage by 2006-2007 standards.
        An AAA studio would be mocked for releasing something like that.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who was in the right here?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Obi-wan, he found out Anakin.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Anakin I admit that I, personally, have failed you, personally
      ><Screeching about a conspiracy that the Jedi want to take over the Republic>
      Christ George you almost let them have a moment

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They’re both right to some extent. That’s the point. The Jedi failed Anakin and we’re corrupt, but Anakin was also clearly delusional.

      That's the most disappointing thing about it all. The two games were great and the setting itself had so much potential, especially with the more nuanced writing and deeper introspection of the second game; there was so much opportunity to explore either where the games left off or new stories in a similar way to the first two. Instead, we were robbed of a sequel in favour of an MMO that couldn't get even the most basic things right. If it wasn't so disappointing it would be almost impressive how badly such an established developer could fuck up a project with so much effort and money poured into it, at a time where even an adequate Star Wars MMO would've been a powerhouse.

      If it makes you feel any better, the author who fucked everything up for KotOR is the same one who worked on the first game wrote the original outline for the ME trilogy that MEfags are always clamouring about, so I doubt it would've ended up any better even as intended. If there's one thing it reinforced to me, it's how much of an absolute fluke the first KotOR was from Bioware.

      BioWare were always hacks. It’s amazing it took this long for people to start to realise it.

      KOTOR 1 proved that they have a level of understanding of Star Wars on par with Disney, since they managed to imitate all the bells and whistles of the franchise, but not the heart and soul of it that was present in both the OT and PT.

      KOTOR 1 is basically an exercise in ripping off the OT and combining it with Bioware game cliches. KOTOR 2 is more thematically accurate to what Star Wars is at its core as described by George Lucas and his movies.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh, I agree, but I was still surprised at what a sudden decline there was. I was expecting them to at least try and build on the previous games. They had the perfect opportunity since Obsidian had already done most of the heavy lifting for them.

        Imagine my surprise when their next original game was just KotOR with the serial numbers filed off and worse in every way, and then they were announced to be the ones developing a Star Wars MMO.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    George was high by the end of writing RotS.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >that is your own masterpiece!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like saying this when I get big enough to found an empire an CK2.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Real gamers go dark side while also fully supporting the republic and manipulating people's opinion of you via the power of supporting democracy and "justice"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love democracy

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Turn KOTOR, your most acclaimed and well known series of RPG into a WoW clone
    >go on to make Dragon Age, which plays like an offline mmo
    what was the logic here?

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bioware is… LE BAD: the thread

    Cry more.
    Their MMO is the only one that has two genders still. Based.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    daily reminder that no matter how good of a writer avelonne seems to be he still can’t text a female to save his life

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is so bizarre considering how true to life and generally well written the women of kotor 2 are

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        what is bizarre about a drunk man being incapable of getting laid with text messages

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i just assume that someone that seems to have an ok understanding of women and writes ok would be able to talk to them without sounding like a total cringelord
          but if youre really drunk then whatever

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i just assume that someone that seems to have an ok understanding of women and writes ok would be able to talk to them without sounding like a total cringelord
          but if youre really drunk then whatever

          What would Kriea say about Avellone’s horny texts?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            He was using his powers to get what he wanted and was thus compensated for it, so she would approve, if thinking him a bit tasteless.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have never once done a light side playthrough.

    Being a goody two shoes is boring and you get way more EXP and rewards for being Dark Side.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      See that's me in Kotor 1
      Lightside in Kotor 2 is actually very rewarding.
      It's the only game where you can directly challenge and even prove your master(Kreia) wrong. I also love turning all the followers into Jedi.
      my canon playthrough is a male space jesus exile watchman. A Han Solo greaser type with some subtle Obi Wan elements

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you aren't a goody two shoes as lightside
        light side exile can be disillusioned, cynical and in constant disagreement with the jedi order

        BUT

        the major difference between dark and light side is that light side exile, despite everything, despite knowing the cost, still chooses to do the right thing, not because someone tells them to but because they want to

        And Kreia is secretly proud of you for it

        Truth be told, part of the reason I like Dark Side is that you get more lightsaber duels than in a Light Side Run (Assuming you kill the Masters). I love killing the Masters, because the idea of the Exile travelling the galaxy to track down and assassinate the council is kino.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you aren't a goody two shoes as lightside
      light side exile can be disillusioned, cynical and in constant disagreement with the jedi order

      BUT

      the major difference between dark and light side is that light side exile, despite everything, despite knowing the cost, still chooses to do the right thing, not because someone tells them to but because they want to

      And Kreia is secretly proud of you for it

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Handmaiden or Mira?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Both

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