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Think Morrowind gave me a lasting dislike of Nords, they are all dicks/bullies/bandits ingame
Except for the guy drinking in that Vivec bar who gives you the sidequest with the ship burial cave
There is no side quest. He tells you a story gives you a key and calls it a day. Do you know how many people tell you stories in Morrowind? There is a decent chance you won't even notice receiving the key.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Ennbjof%27s_Nord_Burial
moron
UESP.
Quests with one stage?
They just don't give a frick do they? It also is exactly what I posted. He tells you a story and gives you a key. That is your " quest" according to UESP.
A question. Did you play Morrowind or do you get everything from a wiki? If you are a wiki guy get a better one than UESP.
Which Wiki would you recommend he replace UESP with?
A wiki with standards. Even before the AE attempted to fix all the lore frick ups UESP considered them canon. They simply do not give a frick and consider whatever is remotely connected to TES as canon.
oops
should have read fix all the creation club lore frick ups.
Can you give an example of such a wiki?
Basically any not uesp should be fine.
this homie uses the fandom wiki
I know a fan of uesp is not laughing at anyone.
You share a wikisite with the Cory in the house fanbase LMAO
The only two other TES wikis are Kirkbride's wife website that has literal fanfiction and the horrible fandom one whose editors regularly add their own headcanons to things
Wait Kirkbride isn't gay???????
He groomed his beard when she was an undersge fangirl on the official Bethesda lore forum.
how does she look?
According to the fan nerds from the old official forums she is cute. MK would have her send lewd cosplay pics to his cult.
He is a straight up pimp.
Headcanon? That is the biggest peoblem with uesp . They have no standards.
UESP always leaves sources for literally everything they write and indicate whenever that something comes from something out of game. The Fandom editors often put fan theories in like Thalmor towers shit at one point.
The fan wiki clearly marks out of game sources with (oog). Uesp mixes them with valid sources in an attempt to validate them. I don't want to hear complaints about fan theories when uesp considers cc stuff canon
Your wiki has zero standards. I win.
And UESP marks out of game sources with [UOL]
>fan theories when uesp considers cc stuff canon
As bad as CC is, at least it's something that's actually in the game and approved by Bethesda instead of assumptions or fan theories some redditors made up
If it is bad and clearly wrong don't consider it canon. Uesp gives no fricks.
Even trainwiz doesn't say they are canon and he says a lot of dumb shit.
>get a better one than UESP.
n'wah detected, opinion disregarded
Is there a branch of UESP that removes all the garbage from ESO and Creation Club?
>garbage from ESO
You know, fair point. That shit is annoying and I consider it non-canon, but no it doesn't seem so. Even the imperial-library site has full on TESO stuff. But if you want info pertaining to a specific game, like say Morrowind, UESP is the best. Much better than that wikia shit.
>That shit is annoying and I consider it non-canon
Based. I'll never acknowledge ESO shit. Really glad the Tamriel Rebuilt guys don't either.
The Tamriel rbuilt guys are doing their own headcanon and don't care if tbe games contradict them . They have nothing to do with each other.
They have the same issue as the MMO. They have a lot to add and most of it will be crap.
Tamriel Rebuilt is generally just made from Morrowind-era lore, so it makes sense that it wouldn't consider anything that came afterward. And thank frick for that.
It is good they openly admit it isn't trying to be lore correct and they are doing their own thing.
I admit that I haven't gone over it in much detail, but does it contradict any existing lore? From Morrowind, I mean, everything afterward is non-canon anyway.
I truly don't know anything about TR other than what gets shilled here. From what I understand they aren't changing anything to match lore from later games.
It would be impossible even as slow as Bethesda has been.
They are just doing their vision lore be damned.
Nah from what i've read, while sticking to the Pre-Oblivion setting, TR still structures the lore in a way that the next games' events can happen, like their argonian lore is pretty fricking different from canon but still specifically written in a way that still let's shit like them doing well in the Oblivion crisis or invading Morrowind can happen
They shouldn't even bother. It would be hard to keep up with the actual TES games and impossible to keep up with the MMO.
If they go with a wishy washy "Ya never know" thing it will suck. Just do what they want. It is just a mod .
So long as its internally consistent with itself, that's what matters.
You going to not change SSE to match ESO lore now?
Considered it but decided I'd rather have SSE exist with its lore as it was, as a piece of history. I will be adding some call-forwards to Wheels of Lull at least.
ESO is the one thing that they 100% disregard completely afaik
ESO makes no fricking sense even in post-Morrowind lore
He was a good friend
It's just fricking banter, anon.
Nords are just the human version of Imgas anon. They haven't done anything of note since the 3bd era. Their heroes and "true nords" are long since gone and live in mud huts. Its over for them anon
All they can do now is be racists and drink shit mead
>Seen any elves? Hahahahahaha!
I dun get it
You have to be very high INT to understand Nord humor
They're in Morrowind. 90% of the country is Dunmer aka elves
It makes sense when the female Nord says it, she just ironically asks if you've seen any elves while you're surrounded by them in Morrowind
For some reason the male Nord emphasizes "elves" like it's a pun or something
How come the Walrus people are only in morrowind?
Is that supposed to be a face tattoo or just paint
Pretty sure it's all war paint.
haha
Is Nord humor too highbrow for mer?
>elfs
>And so I said, "Where's the money in that?"
Has anyone ever given his money back?
Depends on the play through but I typically do yes. He paid me for a job and my reputation is what feeds me.
I did, yes.
this aint hrisskar
and yeah, I gave him his money back, didn't know I could just take it and run but in my defense I was 11 when Morrowind came out
I always do
What the frick did he mean by that
its like saying you play with danger.
it hot and you might fall in to the fire, willing taking unnecessary risk.
>You're on your honor, don't press your luck.
Most annoying voice actor ever
One of the reason I can't replay Oblivion
The Wonder Woman actress?
Yeah, she's married to some big wig at Zenimax. She also does Magnolia in Fallout 4, including her original songs.
I for one love the female dunmer Morrowind battle lines, they just sound hilarious.
>Die you n'wah!
how did they get away with it
STOOPID
just turn off the dialogue, Gankerro
>Seen any... ELVES???
b***h you in the dark elf county
That's the joke, Nord humour pls understand
I will bathe in your blood.
>Ahh yes, we've been expecting you!
>intresting!
and
the choice
is
YOURS
DIE DIE DIE FETCHER DIE DIE DIE FETCHER FETCHER FETCHER DIE DIE DIE FETCHER!
Why are bosmer like this?
Never gets old
>You don't deserve to live....
Why are they like that?
schizophrenia
>wood Black folk are canonically schizophrenic from cannibalism-related prion disease
is this, dare i say, ludokino?
>tfw you'll never collect enough prion disease and coalesce into a beautiful mass of bosmer flesh with your bros to roll alongside your walking trees to drive out the invaders
why even bother anymore
I would say more irrelevant as it rarely gets mentioned or matters in any way.
They're just nutty
>unused wood elf intro
Kek what the frick, deep lore
Argonians also have one
they were villains from the very first game in 94
mankar camoran also, in oblivion. bosmer are overrepresented when it comes to villains
He's an altmer, just somehow has the Camoran name, but it's not out of the realm of possibility there's dynastic in-mixing there and shit.
I think it's explicitly said his mother was a bosmer, which means he should be too
He changed himself through Razor frickery, which is the exact kind of crazy shit a deranged wood elf would do.
The idea of the child always inheriting the mothers race comes from one book that is probably wrong considering there's cases in which it didn't happen.
both mankar's parents were bosmer you dumb Black person, it's not even a debate
Except the Usurper was a bosmer as well
>https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Lead_the_Pilgrim_to_Koal_Cave
>discord pop-ups
>TELL US ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE
>Inferior quest stage table
>limited article info on useful niche articles
>affiliate links
>https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Lead_the_Pilgrim_to_Koal_Cave
>details on random niche quests
>useful notes section containing edge cases and useful trivia
>quest stage table tells you what stages can end the quest
>actual detailed walkthrough
>continuously updated for quality with guidelines
>annoying twitch at the bottom on some articles
there's only one clear answer here, how are the other wikis useful in terms of actually getting info and checking shit?
The guy who's shitting on UESP in this thread is the same one who obsessively shits on Morrowind and Kirkbride in every thread, i assume he hates it because he associates it with those two things for whatever reason, hence his amazing "it gets things wrong because i say so" argument
Very weird, they're only responding to things where they can quickly insult someone and then move on. Not sure why I wasted my time, but it did make me appreciate UESP. It's got the soul of the old internet.
Instead of playing the victim answer the points I made not the ones you wish I made.
Pre AE edition the cc stuff gave no fricks about lore yet uesp considered them canon. They have no standards.
The AE tried to fix their frick ups but some just can't. Umbra existing for one.
All the Elder Scrolls wikis are shit because all of them are filled to the brim with headcanon, which is also why it is so easy to tell when someone got their information from the wiki versus from in-game lore. UESP is at least easier to use because fandom is FRICKING SHIT
Good thing there's no fextralife wiki for TES yet. At least I don't think there is, because I've never seen it pop up in search results. It's already criminal that wikia takes priority in searches over UESP.
Water finds its own level. The lack of standards of any kind really hurts uesp.
Fandom wikis always get prioritized in Google search results
TES id filled to the brim with headcanon. There are anons who will tell you Vivec is alive because an ex dev wrote fanfics about him. They will tell you the game itself is not canon because the fanfic is.
Why are you obsessed with canon when TES is an 'anything goes' setting? If anything, Skyrim isn't canon since it's way too medieval and banal for the established lore.
Why am I concerned with having a baseline everyone agrees on for discussing a topic so it doesn't devolve into shitflinging?
We may never solve that one detective.
Yeah, I don't think I will ever solve how there's always some dude shitting up the entire thread with tirades against 'headcanon' yet it's supposed to stop shitflinging. good luck on establishing that baseline, though.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragon_Break
As long as it happens in game I am fine with it being included in the discussion.
It isn't rocket science yet some insist on bringing up out of game sources . They have lower standards than I do.
completely wrong. he is undeniably a bosmer. he just changed his appearance later
Great. I'm sure you fit right in.
>You should have picked an easier opponent!
Do you think that Erich.....?
He raped her for every waking moment she was up in his room, I can guarantee you that.
>You shouldn't of come here
>I don’t recall using teleportation. Yet there I was. Alone. Naked.
>implied date rape
man video games were different back then
the game____
Hold on, is the reason there's so much Morrowind lately because of the tamriel rebuilt update? That was what prompted me to reinstall and I've put like 200 hours into my playthrough since and keep seeing Morrowind threads everywhere. God I fricking love this game.
STOOPID
I think one of the modders involved is trying to shill the mod here. They have run into a slight brickwall when trying to discuss Morrowind though. Everybody has been teasing the Mortowind fan(s).
They should try tesg. It is mostly degenerates but some might still care about a mod from an ancient game.
Will TR add the Redoran or Dres stuff first after Narsis?
>Hold on, is the reason there's so much Morrowind lately because of the tamriel rebuilt update
I replay Skyrim basically every Christmas to check out new mods and when I get to Solstheim I get Morrowind nostalgia and replay that too
Happened the last 3 years like that at least
I always assumed Mankar changed himself into an ayleid given his obsession with them.
>his obsession with them
citations?
His idea of paradise is ayleid architecture
Can you beat Morrowind with only quest reward equipment and items?
You can beat Morrowind in 15 minutes exploiting alchemy. When the question " Can you do (x) in Morrowind?" the answer 99% of the time will be yes. Morrowind does not like saying No to the player.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Weapon_Artifacts
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Armor_Artifacts
Yes.
>Female dumbmer don't sound like 60yr old chainsmoker
>Female nords don't sound nearly as moronic as the males
0:20
>female dunmer have higher cha
>female nords have higher will
>redguards are dumb, unpersonable and run really fast
ludo
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Races
lots of busy guys and gals in hammerfell
Why are female orcs so uncharismatic?
Most people don't like women that are taller than them by a head or more and could easily rip their limbs off.
>Most people don't like women that are taller than them by a head
Bullshit, only women give a frick about height.
If tall women were capable of and prone to extreme violence, you would care.
TES orcs aren't even that tall, blizzBlack person
They're some of the tallest around, only behind Altmer.
They're just as tall as Nords in Oblivion and even shorter than Nords in Morrowind
Damn, so they're only the third tallest race on Tamriel? what a bunch of manlet chumps.
Everyone is a manlet compared to the chadmer. Let me guess, you probably walk around everywhere because you don't have the magicka too spare.
The Altmer and Nords are both taller than the Orcs
booba
suomi
They're ugly
So bretons actually mixed with khajit, I see
>Fricks her childhood friend
>Fricks countless guards and civilians while running to Morrowind
>Gets bent over a bar counter and publicly fricked by a Khajit for a favor
>Fricks Tiber Septim culminating with an abortion
>Turns 18
>Fricks a general
>Wants to frick Jagar Tharn so badly she lets him trick her into leading him to one of the most powerful artifacts on Nirn
>Reunites with Tharn and naturally, fricks him repeatedly
>Marries a Breton and fricks him as well
Should just put that tiara on her pussy, because lord knows she didn't do anything herself
AWALT
Extremely boethic ,
I think that says alot about the state of Dunmer " men" more than anything.
Also
Why are so many dunmer women into necrophilia?
It is the only time dunmer men get stiff.
>its the mens fault im a prostitute
Do Dunmer women really?
wtf I love Dunmer girls now
>So horny that she accidentally changes you into a horse and a dog while practicing basic ass alteration spells
400 years of fricking means she knows how to please a man
you just KNOW barenziah eats ass
Why does she look hot in Dagerfall ,but looks like a grandma in morrowind? Is the ashfall THAT bad for one's health?
>Why does she look hot in Dagerfall
Because Daggerfall devs were horny bastards, she's old af even for Elf lifespans
She was also pretty much just a brown woman with long ears instead of a Dunmer in Daggerfall
>WHAT'S THE WORD, SPORT?
i love these edits
Seen any white people?
As, I hear, all telvanni are. [FETCHER]
As I child, I thought it was some Telvanni guy who didn't like the joke. Could never beat him with my moronic underleveled character.
Perfect filter for the early mournhold explorers. Frick this guy too.
Continue through to the next building and talk to Sellus Gravius
*takes the platter*
WHAT
DO
YOU
THINK
YOU'RE
DOING
Sir, he dropped it, what do we do?
For me? It has to be Percius Mercius, the best Imperial name.
I am partial to the name Biggus Dickus and his wife Incontintia Buttocks
>snrt
>chuckle
Do you find that wisible? When I say the name .. Biggus..Dickus?
For me? It has to be Smokeskin-Killer, the best Argonian name.
>only Argonian in the series whose name implies murdering Dunmer
>is a member of House Telvanni
What did Smokeskin-Killer mean by this?
Ironically that's the most Telvanni shit ever
he's just beating the Telvanni at their own game
His logic was superior
That is absolutely a Telvanni thing to do. House Telvanni is open to everyone that is capable of surviving it.
MW glass armour on Argonians is peak Fashion Scrolls
THIS IS THE END OF YOU, SWIT
>combat music plays
>enemy shuffles awkwardly towards you
no that would be the Mournhold guard armor
Morrowind glass armor anywhere other than in the trash is an abomination. There has never been good looking glass armor.
This, I don't know how people like it. It looks alright on the Argonians, but only because it looks like it was tailor made for them.
At least it's not Oblivion's neon green plastic abomination.
Oblivion just looks like shit in general. Morrowind's armors are very hit or miss, some is the best in the series, some looks dumb as frick. Skyrim unironically has the most consistently good looking armor in the game even if there are a few that look moronic.
What is the absolute best looking Morrowind armor in your opinion. It did Orcish the best but most are fairly pedestrian on one end or over designed and busy on the other
Gah-Julan Bonemold and Chitin
I'm not him but if he answers with anything else you should disregard it immediately
>Redoran master helm and Gah-Julan cuirass have two different colored scarves
This still triggers my autism
Bonemold was good. Is Chitin the white armor made of bugs? I didn't like that one.
I mostly like chitin because of how well it fits the setting
I love the Ordinator gear, Orcish armor as you mentioned, and Chitin. I also like the Steel armor alot. You would be right if you called it pedestrian, but it is intentionally pedestrian because it is basically the mid to low-tier heavy armor
Morrowind steel armor is not something I thought there would be many defenders of .
It's not even bad
True. Oblivions is the worst of the worst. It does not make the other two anywhere close to good.
post gamer Azura
I really dislike Morrowind's wikipedia dialogue, but all the voice-acted lines are great
back when fantasy voice actors tried to invent a unique character for the world instead of just doing their best British accent.
I miss Argonians talking like autistic weirdos in Morrowind and Oblivion, in Skyrim they just sound way too normal
>missing anything at all from shitlivion
I mostly miss the Morrowind portrayal, Oblivion at least got their autistic way of talking right while Skyrim didn't
>I've have a feeling that you and I are about to become real close...
When does it make the most sense to start Tribunal
After the main quest
20 years ago.
Pretty sure you're supposed to start both DLCs after doing the main quest
Expansions*
What's the difference
Expansions tended to have more than two hours of content.
Yeah that's true gameplay-wise, they are balanced to be MUCH harder than any vanilla content. Story-wise it's different. Bloodmoon could be started early with no bearing on the main story, but Tribunal can't because Tribunal's story explicitly comes after the main quest's story. Tribunal might not make total sense on its own and it might even spoil a bit of the main quest if you do it too early.
>Gal bursten it
Are Nords supposed to be closer to Scandinavians or Slavs? Couse they got mostly Nordic names, but are racist like Eastern Europeans.
You'd be racist against non-humans too if you knew anything about TES lore
Never said I wasnt racist either kings, but that doesnt clue me in for the irl inspiration for the nords. The bark "Seen any Elves?" in morrowind is like saying "Seen any Black folk?" in the US.
That takes balls and I dont think Scandinavians got any left
Racism is good AND natural.
well daggerfall and morrowind were retcons too but oblivion feels like a slap. jfc. i get how people do feel like it is spiritually noncanon like star war prequels... Kirks stuff is mostly wacky babble tho... guy just seems to have some interesting tastes... hes some sort of asshat awesome hipster druggy freak...
MK just ripped off Hindu Mysticism. Didn't even bother to change the nomenclature.
aye, that i do
sometimes i even dance in the fire!
How close to it?